Whenever somebody asks "I wonder how they did it" in regards to any modern film, I roll my fucking eyes. It's CGI. All of it. Everything has just been replaced with CGI. Even when it doesn't need to be and can be done in some other way, it's CGI. Even films that allegedly "use practical effects" and "are shot on location" are lying, everything practical has been replaced with CGI or plastered with so much CGI that it might as well be CGI.Back in the day, there were entire televised programs about 'movie magic', and it was as interesting a watch as the film itself, often more so. Seeing all the insane creative solutions people came up with to realize all those different effects. Your mind would melt knowing what people had to do. Always filled you with excitement and motivation.Now it's all been farmed on the exact same software, with the same exact solution to every problem and the same exact look.
>>219500719My favorite part is when directors use miniatures and everyone thinks it was cgi because they put vfx effects over miniatures
>>219500719I do miss everything being real. Like actors living in situations. Rather than pretending. Like people tried to make a life and world for actors.
>>219500719Soon there will be AI slop movies and people will reminisce about the good old days of CGI made by humans.
>>219500719>It's CGI. All of it.thats because modern CGI looks better than practical effects ever could.
>>219501794>thats because modern CGI looks better than practical effects ever could.
>>219501794>Oh N-!
>>219501794>modern CGI looks better than practical effects ever could.
>>219502017the used only ambient lighting in that scene which makes it look like ass
not true at all
>>219501951>>219502017>>219502041>They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>219502061Oh, the lighting is the least of that scene’s problems. Even the physics of it are jarringly wonky.
>>219501794t. Hindoo shiteater
>>219500719You're right. Just recently I watched true lies for the first time for 10 years or so. I totally forgot how cool it looks if there is a real explosion and scenes actually filmed outside rather than in front of a green screen. While I understand that in certain situations you need CGI it is clearly grossly overused and makes modern movies look like shit for the most part. It instantly kills the immersion if it is painfully obvious. Cinema as an art form is dieing and it will be totally dead once AI writes stories. Whether it will also replace actors or not will not be an issue. If you want to see real acting go watch pro theater or a musical. Modern movies are nothing but slop.
>>219502099>>219502119facts say otherwise
>>219502213>NIGGERMAN MUST VOTE 10/10lmao
>>219500885Cram it, poofter
>>219502426black panther is the greatest film ever made
yeah
Tomu Kuruzu
>>219502473if you're a dumb nigger maybe
>>219500719>Your mind would melt knowing what people had to doSo make a thread about that. You don't have to bitch every day of your life lmao
>>219504670shut up zoomnigger
>>219501794wait till you watch your second movie
>>219500719Nice reddit spacing
>>219500719>dude let's just drop a shitload of fucking furniture millimeters away from tom cruise cause he refuses to use a stunt doubleshut the hell up
>>219505880>dumb zoomer doesn't know what a paragraph is>nor what reddit spacing is
>>219505973>what are propskill yourself stupid zoomnigger
>>219502213
>>219500719Film is a dead medium now.
>>219506181>dude lets just drop a shitload of shitty looking lightweight foam props so we have to cgi them over later again
heres those great practical effects I was tellin you about
>>219502017DLSS 5.0 off.
>>219501794>thats because modern CGI looks better than practical effects ever could.once they were able to simulate global illumination it was over for practical effects. Even the shittiest most poorly textured model looks real now.
>>219506181>what are pro-ACK
>>219506605all practical in the oldie times indeed
>>219500719I really don't understand the chuddie argument. Am I supposed to be upset this isn't practical or pretend that movies haven't been using blue screen for longer than chuddie disappointed parents have been alive?
>>219506853You will never be a woman. Sorry to break it to ya.
>>219500719True.
>>219506972Don't worry chuddie, I never once thought you actually had an argument except for screaming TRANNY at anyone who called out your midwit-tier autism.
Tom Cruise does his own stunts they said
>>219506698>replying to himselflmao dumb zoomer
>>219507969Im posting with my mom on the same IP, LOSER
>>219501794Underage retard.
>>219500719I watched a featurette for DUNC 2 recently and was amazed to learn that the bit where Paul dives onto the worm's back to ride it was a practical stunt, they built and collapsed a large sand dune for real.I never suspected this because the shot is comped with CG and immediately followed by more CG shots. What's even the point?
>>219508361>What's even the point?Practicality and costs. Sometimes cgi is easier and faster. Sometimes it isn't.It's hard to really understand if you don't use it/do it yourself, but not all cgi is equal. I don't know about that scene. But my guess is that, due to time constraints and the amount of cgi they were using anyway, having Paul land on a green cushion that represented the worm would've been obviously cheap-looking. Complex physics, sand particles flying through the air, things like that.Practical effects can often be cheaper and more effective. It just requires taking the time to plan in advance. So capeshit doesn't do this because those films are churned out and designed in post.Likewise, things like vast halls and spaceship battalions are stuff that doing practically is near impossible (without dropping millions) unless you want to work with miniatures - which adds a whole lot more complexity with forced perspective, to end with a result that often looks noticeably worse. Cgi for this sort of thing is extremely quick and looks indistinguishable from real life most of the time.So it's all about picking your battles
>>219508361the modern best practice of VFX is to do as much practically as possible but most of it is there to guide the VFX artists so they know what the real thing is supposed to look like.
>>219509019Adds up. Rewatching that part now, with this is mind, I can see how bad it could have looked without guide footage, and how much better it might have looked in Denis' mind before filming it.
>>219500719I watched The Fifth Element the other day. The interiors were fucking amazing. I feel like with how wacky they were, some studios would just CG the fucking rooms.
>>219506853they should have dropped a real piano on hayley atwells legs
>>219509435she wouldn't be able to walk thAtwell
>>219500719i thought mission impossible did things as real as possible, though i noticed more cgi in the last two, i thought it was due to covid
>>219509681>i thought mission impossible did things as real as possiblemarketing meme
>>219509681the only thing real is tom cruise doing stunts
>>219509764>>219509954pity one of the biggest reasons i went to see them
AI will unironically fix it. You can do better things in your basement than 30 indian studios being paid $500 million can do in a year
>>219510055I haven't seen any evidence of this. It looks like dogshit now and it always will. There's a ceiling on AI's abilities and it's a lot lower than anyone's hoping.
>>219509393my biggest disappointment with Dunc 2 was that Hanz Zimmer didnt use electric guitar riffs during the worm riding as homage to the 1980 film. Would have been kino to get some kind of guitar, doesnt have to be 80s power metal but still. Would have been cool.https://youtu.be/Bj7R_2WWdKs?si=Iwdcr5_uf0IXu6oS&t=122timestamped
>>219510005you think tom cruise really went to go swimming next to gigantic spinning propeller blades? are you dumb?
>>219510369no, he wasn't swimming near the blades, the blades were swimming near Tom Cruise...
>>219510369no but i assumed the set was built practically
>>219512368what do you think this is? >>219500719 are you retarded?
>>219500719I remember watching bloopers on my Ugly Betty dvds and discovered regular street scenes were all green screen
>>219512922>my Ugly Betty dvds
shieeeet
>>219515058this proves Buster Keeton used CGI slop to make this as evidence by the top frame. SAD
>>219502208And True Lies has amazing practical effects and miniatures for the harrier scene making you believe they fired missiles and blew up a huge bridge and truck
>>219500768my favorite part is when they filmed things for real and then CGI over it