https://youtube.com/watch?v=mt0zR2uOAB8
>>219505154we live in a timeline where tom cruise played a nazi officer and nailed it. we should stop complaining
>>219505154Trump is literally still alive
>dude nazis are badCringe
>>219505846nazies wanted to genocide ziggers. only shitler and his stooges were bad. most nazies agree
>>219505846They were in fact some pretty bad dudes, but also really cool, which is why they're perfect villains
Ten points to house Valkyrie!
>>219505846Yeah they lost, their cause was defeated in the battlefield of ideas, might makes right
>>219505154Cruises best and most nuanced performance.
What exactly was their plan if Hitler even died in the bomb blast?Himmler or Goring would've taken over and had them executed instead. Killing Hitler wasn't gonna make millions of soldiers follow some Prussian aristocrats
von Staufenberg wasn't a Nazi
>>219506339They had beforeThe plan was to blame it the coup on the SS, cutting Himmler out of the chain of command and letting the military take over. Goering could end the war with the west and look like a hero.
Adolfs dead guys
>>219506339>>219506428The main issue with the plot was the Allies still wanted unconditional surrender and they already agreed to that with the Soviets beforehand. The plotters actually wanted a return to Germany's pre WW1 territory which wasn't even possible. Best case scenario they would've ended the war earlier but Germany was still gonna get split into two
>>219505846>went expansionist and killed millions of whites.
>>219506339The original plan was to blow up Hitler, Goering and Himmler at the same time, and several attempts were made to accomplish this. But they failed, and ultimately decided to take out Hitler.They made several bad blunders. They failed to take over communications and radio or replace the right officers. Also it was way too late in the game and kinda pointless to kill Hitler. They should have done it YEARS earlier
>>219506317agreed
>>219506527Hundreds of thousands of Germans would have lived, that's not nothingAlthough I imagine neo-Nazi Hitler worship would be even worse in a world where Hitler gets assassinated instead of commuting suicide
>>219505154"Ummmm I'm telling on you!"
Really shitty actor for Hitler though