There’s been a coordinated effort to kill Avatar for years. Like that meme that says it has no cultural legacy and it’s a mystery how they’ve made billions. Even 1.5 billion is somehow not a success now.

>>219541513
How much will they cost?

>>219541457
Good. This retard needs to make another Alita movie.

>>219541547
But that was Robert Rodriguez...

Release the bluray already, I need to see Varang again

>>219541513

Avatar 2: 2,3 billion

3: 1,4 billion

A 800 million fall

Many people haven't seen the third one and are tired of Avatar.

>>219541513
It almost made near a billion less than 2 and sold less tickets. It’s clear people are getting tired of this series. 3rd movie felt like filler, the last 40 minutes were a near exact copy of way of the water

>>219541819
>less tickets
FEWER tickets

Watched it. It's boring.

>>219541457
i should have capped all those times I said his 5 movie plan was just a bullshit cost averaging scheme to try to make it look like they were profitble.

Avatar is kinda a strange movie series. Made a lot of money, but it never really catapulted the mc's career(can't even remember his name). No quotable lines, I don't see kids running around with avatar backpacks and action figures like you did with Jurassic Park. It's good but it's also kinda bland.

>Wants to spend 20 years making blue space ayylium movies
?? really? I guess it was cool to see the first one in IMAX.

>>219541457
>But if they cancel the series I’ll never know if the marine guy they’ve beaten 3 times in a row will get defeated a 4th and 5th time!
What could they convert the avatar world part of animal kingdom into?

>>219541513
>it has no cultural legacy
What do you mean?
I liked that one Avatar movie where that one guy said "I'm Avatar". I use that line all the time with my friends and colleagues and they immediately get the reference.

I think it's more a "hobbit" situation.
Cameron is an author that wants clean stuff. But making avatar costs like running a country, so u need more output. So we have a test trial: the story of what was avatar 2, divided in two movies. More revenue, more runtime, a less clean product.
Now imagine this kind of shit for the whole avatar ip, and maybe with this kind of a deal we can have a movie sooner than once per decade.
There also the problem that this fucked up strategy killed sw and almost killed marvel too, but higher ups can't really say no to some more billions in revenue.
So I imagine the struggle being, Cameron that wants to run the ip like he wants to; vs booting him out like Lucas, and Disney makes an effort to release a new avatar project every year till it stops bringing in money

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Yeah well but what if something else made MORE money? Check+mate, fanboys

>>219541844
alright mannis

>>219541772
it's probably even lower than that if we account for inflation between the two films.

>>219541513
>that meme that says it has no cultural legacy and it’s a mystery how they’ve made billions
Both of these are true. I imagine Cameron bought most of the tickets for all three movies himself.

>>219541457
And nothing of value was lost

Never understood the appeal of Avatar

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>>219541513
2 and 3 mostly benefited from the blockbuster competition being so utterly terrible that it was a breath of fresh air. Regardless of the stories being weak, the spectacle of Avatar is a major contrast to most of what made it to the big stream in a similar bracket
There are two key problems for this to be a reliable long term strategy, however, and one major one specifically from Disney's point of view.
The first is that if movies in general get better, Avatar will have to up its game or be a worse option. Disney would probably be in the know if the industry actually is scrambling to make decent movies, rather than relying on inertia and assumed attendance.
The second is that more and more audiences are just checking out entirely, rather than resigning themselves to whichever option seems least shit. Even if competition doesn't rise to challenge it, audiences might just say fuck it and stop watching entirely if they're not invested.
Finally, Disney are massive control freaks and Avatar is utterly fucked with Cameron. They must be truly seething over the fact he has this over them. This more than any other reason is probably the biggest risk for the franchise. Disney being spiteful retards is hardly an unlikely scenario.

>>219542489
It gives me a sense of wonder and has a strong family focus, cool action scenes. It pleases me on many levels.

>>219541513
I can't even remember anything about Avatar 2, only that it was about water and whales, but can't remember any particular line or memorable character.
Avatar 1 was ok though, groundbreaking and awesome to see it in 3D at the theater.
Haven't seen the 3rd one yet and I don't think I will.

>>219541995
I think most of its audience are third worlders.
Not a great market since they're all poor.

>>219541457
The first two succeeded because they were visually stunning and appealed to people's desire to go see big pretty movies on big screens. The third, it's a mix of fatigue and frankly now that every movie looks like some semi-realistic CGI parallel universe, avatar doesn't really appeal.
It's simply not Terminator or Alien where there was a breakout star that people come to the movies to see. All the people are blue people, even the high-grossing star is simply a CGI character, in the same way Tim Allen is Buzz Lightyear Zoe Saldana is a blue girl

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>>219541995
>it never really catapulted the mc's career(can't even remember his name)
Avatar landed him two different $200 million franchise movies
About then, people realized he's the worst fucking actor in the world and sent him back to live as James Cameron's slave

>>219541457
>exhausted
well yeah, i you stop pouring money into it, the faked "cultural force" just ends.

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It's a terrible trajectory

He hasn't made a good film since Aliens anyways.

>>219543025
*since True Lies

>>219542881
>Terminator Salvation
Anon... you know who did the whole Terminator thing, right?

>>219543037
*since Avatar: Fire and ash

>>219543183
*Fire and Ass

>>219543297
>Ass-atar, based on the novel 'tush' by assfire.

It should have been a trilogy anyways

case in point: Indiana Jones

>>219542222
>Clean stuff
What the fuck are you talking about you faggot nigger?

>>219541513
point the cultural legacy then, other than tha one guy that kept posting the "XXX DAYS TO AVATAR" meme

>>219541513
1.5mil on a 500+mil budget is not a safe ROI in hollywood

It's been fun dunking on MCUcks but yeah, I'm over them now. Move on Jim.

>>219543491
Losing money on Star Wars and marvel movies seems more lucrative

Hey guys remember all those memorable lines from the Avatar movies
Remember how that one character from the Avatar movies resonated with us and we talked about it afterwards
Remember how they influenced other good movies

>>219543435
That even if Cameron does make sequels, it's not really a sequel kind of a guy. Till avatar 2+3 every movie he made had its own dignity.
Imo 2+3 are a bad precedent for the sloppyfication of the ip

>>219541513
Rest in piss.

>>219541457
Avatar 1 was not a good movie. Let alone the shitty sequels. This has always been a woah look at what I can do with technology tech demo larping as a movie series.

>>219541513
To be fair, nobody wants to see some gay movie about drunken blue abbos molesting their kids

>>219543972
Good thing that Avatar isn’t that then

>>219541457
NO MORE WHALES PLEASE

>>219544158
No, more whales, please!

Why is Disney all of a sudden so poor?

>>219543972
>Pocahontas

I looked it up once and it was basically child trafficking. WTF was wrong with Virginia?

>>219541995
yeah it strangely has zero merchandise, i wonder if they wanted to stay away from that or something

the fire episode was just the water episode again
also why do the space whales have giant septum piercings

>no hard science or complex ethical dilemmas for sci fi nerds
>no detailed world building or multiple factions for autistic nerds to glob onto
>no kid appeal
>libs hated the "white guy goes native" trope before Obama was even in office
>No one even slightly right wing wants to hear about how evil colonization was
It's made for nobody except the most casual of movie goers. Of course it wouldn't maintain cash flow while still being expensive to make

>>219541513
the first one was a visual symphony and jsut gorgeous to look at. The story was just meh. People saw the second one out of curiously because they liked the first one. No one really cares anymore. I still havent seen it and I have had the torrent for almost a week already. I will watch it at some point but it isnt something I really care about. I have been to disney many times and an avatar park doesnt really sound like something I would really care about either

>>219541457
people are just seeing Avatar to see what 15 billion dollars looks like on the big screen, nothing more

its because Avatar 3 came out so close to 2. Obviously he has little choice with his advanced age but it was the space between 1 and 2 that made 2 so successful

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>>219541457
I don't care what anyone says, I am an unabashed Avatar fan. I genuinely love seeing the Avatar films in 3D on the biggest screen possible. It's a truly transportive experience. That's why I hope Cameron will still somehow give us the Avatar sequels he originally planned to make, because I want to see Cameron's Avatar story reach its natural conclusion.

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CUAYO!

>>219541457
He's wasted enough years on this franchise.

>>219542692
That’s exactly what the target audience was. Back in 2009 China didn’t make huge blockbusters so Avatar did bank there. Nowadays Chinese people don’t give a shit, neither do Indians really.

>>219545099
Don’t worry they will be made. Once the new Star Wars movie flops and the next avengers only makes the same as A3 (while costing more), Disney will suck his dick once more

>>219541457
Oh no, you mean we might not get the same fucking movie a fourth time in a row? What a tragedy.

Fucking ingrate faggot deserves it, running off to New Zealand and shit-talking the country that made him famous over the fucking Covid vaccine of all things.

>>219541772
I saw Way of Water at the theater, and decided that I was done with Avatar.

The theme park is pretty cool though, I will give them that.

>>219542021
He didn’t just do Avatar. He also killed John Connor, let’s not give him a pass for that one.

>>219541457
he made the same movie twice

>>219546080
But the previous one didn't have Varang

>>219542692
>>219545860
Seems to have worked out for Zootopia

>>219546189
We’ve got plenty of gooner material at our fingertips 24/7, we’ll be fine.

>>219541457
Avatar is fucking gay. Always has been.

>>219545860
I’m actually thankful for that, because that stretch where there was blatant chink pandering being blatantly shoehorned into stuff like Transformers and Iron Man was really fucking cringe and distracting.

Who the fuck cares? The movies are beyond generic and lame. Ive never met a single person IRL who had any type of enthusiasm towards them. The only reason they are popular on /tv/ is because normalfags dont care about them so its the perfect for the low IQ contrarians

>make the same movie THRICE
>"Nooo why are they killing the franchise???"
Gee idk maybe because making the same movie for a forth and fiveth time might not be as profitable as it was the first three times. Cameron got lucky his Smurfcahontas Dances with Wolves got successful in the first place. Also it's funny how /tv/ decided this particular souless blockbuster made for the lowest common denominator is somehow "high art" similar to Snyder or Nolan. This is the kosher Hollywood and of course the kosher right eats up the goyslop. You are all fucking cattle.

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>>219542021
I'm just surprised more people don't realize that Cameron is an autistic furry and that Avatar is his autistic furry fanfiction.

>>219545876
Fingers crossed.

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>>219541772
It's actually far worse than that once you look at ticket sales. The third movie was seen by 1/3rd of the amount of people that saw the first. Premium formats help mask the severe audience dropoff.

>>219541457
I thought the whole point of this was that Cameron spent the decade after Avatar 1 coming up with a 5-6 movie saga he wanted to make, what happened to that?

oh no not blue pocahontas.

Lmaooo does Disney have any other billion dollar bangers waiting in the wings, besides Doomsday? They kinda NEED Cameron right now...

>>219547097
No, Cameron has been thinking about the story since the 80s. He loves Avatar. He was waiting so long for the technology to make it workable. He's already said that 4 is the part of the story he wanted to make most. And 5 is the finale.

>>219545099
Avatar is the only big and original blockbuster being made by a passionate director that wants to tell a story. Everything else is knockoff sequels made decades late by randoms and heavily modernized. Avatar also is the only thing that still feels like 2000s-2010s. Everything in 2020s is shit so it's nice to feel a piece of back when things were better.

>>219547181
If doomsday makes the same amount as A3, then Disney is fucked. It costs much more and Cameron is the one director that can tell others to fuck off

>>219541457
Oh no. Not the anti-White Blue Cat Water Movie.

>>219541457
These movies stopped being good when James kept shoving his Water fetish everywhere.

James Cameron has become retarded

>>219541457
Series earns Billion but as no cultural relevance. I don't think anyone has seen the movies more than once.

>>219541457
>Cultural force.
LOL

>>219544655
>>no detailed world building or multiple factions for autistic nerds to glob onto
Wrong, there's the various tribes of pandora and the planet's wildlife and there's a whole fictional language.

>>219547480
Honestly Rebel Moon felt like an early 2010s movie like the hunger games but it wasn't good.