https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSeqs_xeqv4
>>219544783I can't believe it, this will be the very last time the punisher kills
Why do all these disney plus shows look like that?
>one LAST kill>releases 2 months before he shows up in spidey movieare they even trying to keep things in order anymore?
>>219545046>punisher killing anyone in a pg-13 blockbuster
>HUAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHbased
>>219545046You assume the title refers to him
>>219544783>punisher retiring for 4th time>will not wear skull until last 10 min of movie>Jon shouting like retard exact opposite of his character personality
>>219544783>Special presentationIt's one hour long, basically the TV equivalent of a tie in comic. I'm not expecting much of this.
>>219545260The dude is easily the worst of the live action punishers. Jane, Stevenson, even fucking lundergren were leagues better.
>>219545089>Aunt May died and Tobey got stabbed in the last Spider-Man movie>Taskmaster died from getting shot in the forehead close range>Maria Hill died from getting shot through the heart>Wanda exploded Black Bolt's and Reed Richards head and sliced Captain Carter in half>Thanos got his head chopped off Why are you pretending these movies don't have people die in pg-13 movies?
>>219545376Now show me an instance of a human killing a human like the punisher would. 12 Gauge to the head or chest at close distance.
>>219545436https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RqpHxMIF8E
>>219545478>no blood>no entry>no exit>through the mask
>>219545436punisher will still kill in the spidey movie it will just not be gruesome or have that much blood it will just be people falling over which is fine and expected
>>219544783>Jon Bernthal paid Jon Bernthal to write a story about Jon Bernthal and play as Jon BernthalHow much autofellating is gonna be there?
>>219545537moving the goalposts, also there is blood
>>219544783I really hate the beard and the fade and the fact that this version of Frank is deeply emotional and always yelling. Garth Ennis ruined this character for me because anything that strays from that just feels lame in comparison. I also liked the Jason Aaron MAX run but I know people hate one that for some reason.
>>219545436>Dr. Erskine>Agent Coulson >Frigga>Quicksilver>Howard Stark>Maria Hill
>>219544783these shows are literally the exact same thing every season every episode every dialogue
>>219544783kino
>>219545834Since when did frank Castle look like a homeless person.
>>219545834he won't have the beard for long
>>219546031
>>219544783All the bad guys are white
>>219546120No, but he's got that gayass haircut.
Punisher is an emotional killing machine this is woke garbage
What is the real reason chuds hate this Punisher? did the actor say something against Trump?
>>219546340from what i remember their complaints are>he kills more people in daredevils show than his own>he screams too much>his suit sucks>punisher is supposed to be tall, not that jon is a manlet but would be cool to see a bigger guy there's probably more but those are the common ones
>>219546340For me it's the fact that the Punisher is not a nice guy. He is a psychopath who fell in love with war and has become addicted to violence. The only reason law enforcement let's him run free is because he is killing the right people. Going after pimps, pushers, gang bangers and traffickers. Yes he saves people but that is a byproduct of his bloodlust. A cold and calculated killing machine. That is the Punisher i want.
>>219546340Notice how much punishing he's doing in the trailer?
>>219544825Let's be Frank, we always knew this day would come.
IS this going to be ANOTHER its ok to kill white people because they are all evil yidsney banger?
>>219546340Because it's a shit fucking show, you trooncel faggot.
>>219544783jewnisher: one last goy
>>219544783I think the real misstep with modern Punisher is trying to sanitize him. MAX shows him to be incredibly "problematic" and trying to make him a diet soda version that's less objectionable really does the character a disservice.
>>219546429All true.
I really hate the skull on the armor look. Just have him wear a tee shirt with a vest underneath. It's the easiest costume to pull off: trench coat, tee shirt, boots. He doesn't need this tacticool cop vest.
>>219544783Are they actually doing Barracuda?
>>219544783This seems pretty disconnected from what's going on in Daredevil.
>>219546166I see, im not very familiar with the character.Ive only seen the older hollywood movies.
>>219544783how is this show?does he only kill white men, to protect blacks and mixed breed females?
I never followed american comics and far less superhero american comics. So what's the difference between this Punisher and the other trillions versions of comic Punisher?
>>219544783>jon bernthalNope.
>>219547137Season 1 is okay, season 2 is unwatchable and not worth anyone's time
((bernthal))
>>219545584He's gone even further beyond (within ?), he's truly become John Bern(lo)cal. How much more local can you get, writing something, produced by yourself, for you to direct yourself playing yourself
>>219545584Its called burning local
>>219547160TV shows tries really hard to humanize him and focus on his feelings while the comics tend to focus more on the people around him trying to get out of his way, or dealing with the destruction he causes.
>>219546340I hated nu Punisher when his show was about an Egyptian cop tracking him and he only because the Punisher briefly at the end literally Surf Dracula tier
At least he's back to killing goons
We'll never get this on the silver screen, Frank-bros.
>>219546340He looks a bit tiny, doesn't use many weapons, is too emotional, doesn't seem to do much punishing. I really loved the look of Dolph as Frank, it's a shame he didn't wear the skull. He looked like he stepped out of a comic book. He carried himself like he was already dead. It's a better movie than the Netflix shit and what this looks like it'll be.
>>219546340Because people who don't read comics love him and his character even though it does little for the source material. If anything Ray Stevenson was the best all around Punisher with Jane a close second. It also doesn't help that Bernthal, while fine in a vacuum, can and does only ever play himself.
>>219544783I’ll put Jon Bernthal in a Judas cradle myself if Barracuda is in this & he’s summarily killed off
>>219549896They don't have balls to portray a proper barracuda.
Burn status?
>>219544783>killAfter Bernthal let the pedo go I'm not even sure this Punisher actually kills anyone
>>219546340He started out good in Daredevil S2 then very quickly became a bad californian caricature of what the Punisher is meant to be just for the sake of making him a dramatic characterwe barely see him going after organized crime in his own show and instead he's dealing with government conspiracies and corrupt cops/feds, something we really dont need when he spent a grand total of half a DD season fighting thugsthat said there are extremely rare scenes where we get glimpses of a screen writer remembering who Punisher is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgLdMb24bEidk why they cant just stick with adapting the comic book character rather than giving the character a disney spin when fucking Bullseye is in a good spot in the otherwise dogshit daredevil show and he's much closer to his comic book counterpart
>>219550091IM BURNING UP
BURN LOCAL
>>219544783i really dislike jon bernthal's portrayal of the punisher even though theyve stuck with him for this longi hope the next guy they pick actually has some gravitas and presence, jon bernthal just comes off as an angry hick
>>219544783I'm really tired of bearded nonstop screaming Punisher
>>219546340He's too whiny and is always going on about "muh ptsd I have to let go of the Punish- ONE LAST TIME". The appeal of this character is that he's a perpetually mentally ill giant who can't form ties to people, and will never EVER let go of his Punisher persona.
>>219544783No new series for the Punisher? Disney made a fucking show for Miss marvel, but theyr are treating Frank like Amazon treated Atom Eve.One special and you're done.
>>2195461662012 Solid Snake Frank is the sexiest he has ever looked.
>>219551762Timothy Chalamet got you coevered famalam
>>219546340Punisher is a product of pre-trump times, whatever the actor said is irrelevant (actors are all from California anyway).The problem is that the Punisher I liked is from the MAX imprint. He is literally just a vet who brought the war back home with him and keeps fighting it. He enjoys killing. The redeeming quality with him is on the meta level, you like him because he does cool shit and does not quit, within the plot he is an irredeemable killer. But Disney are too chickenshit to truly have an unlikeable complex protagonist, their complexity maxes out at Loki.
>>219555676Ironically John Wick is the closest thing we have to Punisher movies done right.
>>219546860No, Micheal Clark Duncan is dead.
>>219544783Anyone else think 60 minute specials are actually great idea for Marvel and Star Wars? Way better potential than stretching out tv shows and movie trilogies
>Frank Castle>DisneyPick one, you can't have both
>>219548498As mediocre of a movie as it is, War Zone is the only time we got proper Frank Castle on screen
>>219545478>>219545537NTA but I understand where he's coming from. It looks cartoonishly displayed. Tarantula does a better job of directing wacky out of this world violence, he learned it from the Anglo chinks.I'm not an expert but when did Task Master drink from the super soldier juice? I thought his whole schtick was uncanny martial mimicry the gayest of the gifts, a joke character like Gong Man and Stilt Man and Scorpio. But in that clip he just tosses Ghost like a rag doll across the room. Only for her to Naruto teleport across the room in front of TM to the deliver a head shot; immediately followed by a needless face reveal beat. It lacks any balls to be cool.
>>219548498Been reading Punisher since I was 15. When I got a job I went back and bought every Punisher comic I could get my hands on, and THIS is my absolute favorite kill.
Punisher show needs to be like New York Undercover, Miami Vice, maybe Law and Order, with a dash of Hunter and Nasty Boys. (I will die of shock if anyone else remembers that show) take stories from War Journal because those were self contained single issue stories that would be perfect for a show. (Ghosts, Big East, Return to Big Nothing, Assassins Guild, Fallen Kingdom are some of my favorites) Put him in the classic costume. “But it looks silly….” FUCK YOU. There’s a talking Raccoon and a tree in this world. Take that bull shit to Nolan. You can mention the other heroes. Maybe some events but that’s it. I want Frank in his own little world. A dark corner of the MCU.
>>219544783i don't care about capeshit anymore.
>>219545478Why was taskmaster such a pussy in this movie? Did the actress just want out (wanted more money) so they decided to kill the character off?
>>219557636Have you read pic rel? If not, definitely worth a shot.
>>219546340He doesn't look scary or intimidating at all. He looks and acts more like a kindergarten teacher than the punisher
>>219546601This, punisher is a bad guy who just happens to go after other bad guys. He might do something good but he is still a bad guy. He knows that and accepts it
>>219544783this little faggot is insufferable
>>219555452Timothy can actually act & is more intimidating than bernthal.
>>219545351>even fucking the best one was better
>>219563249Lol no
>>219545834>for some reason.The reason is Aaron is a fucking hack.MAX universe was mostly grounded and original, with the only Marvel characters being Frank and Nick Fury. What does Aaron do once he's given the book? He doesn't have an original thought in his head, so he just dumps Kingpin, Bullseye, and Elektra in there.Pic related also shows how much he understands Frank. He even ended his 616 run the exact same way, but had Maria be the one to reveal she doesn't love or care about Frank this time.
>>219546166Now that Marvel is actually reprinting Punisher books again, I hope we get a complete collection of Rucka.
>>219563596>picThat's retarded. I'm a secondary but that's retarded. Like fucking with Peter Parker's involvement in Uncle Bens death level retarded.
>>219563596he was gay, Frank Castle?
>>219546340The Daredevil show gave them the perfect setup, and the creators of the spinoff series threw it all in the trash because they wanted to stretch the fuck out of the Surf Dracula period for Frank.The Jane movie does a much better job of portraying a rendition of Frank that's fresh off of his family's deaths, and unsure of just how far he wants to take his campaign, before finally plunging all-in in the end. Then War Zone is kinda-sorta what the sequel would've been with Frank now fully embracing his role.You could also consider the 2005 game to be a followup since it has Jane playing Frank, and it portrays Jigsaw as Travolta's son that Frank blows up in the movie.
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>>219563596Same artist as Preacher?
>>219563596Yeah, I like this. Frank loves the war so much that he loses all interest in his family, and that's an interesting subversion of his typical motivations. I understand not liking it if you were a huge fan prior to reading it. But for me, this was the second Punisher thing I read after Ennis, so it worked just fine. Plus, I like Bullseye in this run. Kingpin is a little much though.
>>219564451How could you tell?