>>219556852Why does Disney hate money so much?
>>219558196
>>219556852what could have been. she was too sexy for the modern world.
>mara jadeGET OUT
>>219556852>we don't want the strong white woman that everyone would love and acceptkek
>>219556852Literally who?
>>219559038Sexy evil babe who works for Sheev 2 until she gets dicked down so hard by Luke that she switches teamsYou had to be there
>>219558244That went nowhere and the movies who did flopped.
>>219559038Luke's wife, I think she has 2 kids too so they'll have to either recast Mark Hamill, or to make her older, that ofc would fuck the movies canon nobody gives a fuck about.
>>219558369Kek
>>219556852Mara Jade was never canon. Only the prequels and the OT are canon.
>>219559038IIRC she was Palpatines top assassin who he was literally psychically connected too. He sends her to kill Luke from the afterlife or some shit and instead Luke makes her his waifu. They have kids and make them jedi as well
>>219556852Thank goodness. The original Mary Sue. Take your fan fiction and fuck off.
>>219556852I really don't see why they hate her. Her arc in the Thrawn trilogy is pretty good and Luke not getting a wife is gay
>>219559234Clone Wars were George too
>>219559154Nah she worked for Sheev, she wasn't around in the clone Sheev stories.
>>219556852Good. Mara's agressivelly witty and confrontational personality would've been butchered into an horrifically insufferable bitch. Also I'm pretty sure Disney canon Luke is gay.
>>219558196You don't get it, Chud. Disney had absolutely NO material to work off of. Nothing. There were no novels, graphic novels, comics, video games, TTRPGs, there was no fleshed out timeline of the galaxy, no plethora of beloved expanded universe characters! KATHLEEN HAD ABSOLUTELY NO MATERIAL TO WORK WITH, AND IT ABSOLUTELY WASN'T A SELF-IMPOSED PROBLEM!!!
>>219559154They only fall in love long after Mara became one of the good guys.
>>219559391Absolutely mind broken and it's hilarious
>>219559391So true! Also I'd like to introduce my unique and totally new, never before seen character called Admiral Thrawn. Since KK said we have no source material I had to create him from complete nothing.
>>219559560The fucking hypocrisy of it all. KK dumps ALL of the expanded lore, then when her failure is obvious, she starts drip-feeding bits and pieces back in.>Thrawn in Rebels and Assoka>name-dropping the Rakata in AndorEventually they'll get desperate enough to recannonize everything and try to shove their own shit into it. What a joke.
>>219559560Yeah, he's new. This is not Book Thrawn. Nothing alike.
>>219556852Who would you cast as Mara Jade (considering she would have to be close to Mark Hamil's age)
>>219559391Imagine being one of the EU authors/artists/whatever and watching KK make this miserable excuse.
Why not? Thrawn and Darth Talon are now Canon Mara will be in the Star Wars movie of next year
>>219558669>>219556852>redhead white womanYou KNOW this would be a raceswap. All gingers turn into niggers.
>>219559391>Disney had absolutely NO material to work off of. Nothing. There were no novels, graphic novels, comicsThis isn't the worst part, the worst is the time they spent laughing at the suggestion they'd do EU stuff, smirking at how utterly shit it was. Stand aside retards and let the professionals show you how it's done.And then they stole plotlines and characters from the EU but managed to make it even shittier.
>>219559038Luke Skywalker's sassy girlboss wife (it actually works because she's hot and has serious skill that she learned the hard way).
>>219556852I never liked Mara Jade, so I don't care.
>>219559784>Who would you cast as Mara JadeSebastian Stan as SkywalkerSydney Sweeney as Mara jadeDaniel Day-Lewis as Jar Jar Binks
>>219560100Because you are Gay Mara Jade was a good Waifu
>white redheaded woman paired with a white manThey can't bring her back without making her black as per their masters' orders, and they just aren't willing to bite that bullet yet
>>219559712You'd be surprised how much stuff from the old EU is randomly mentioned in a the Disney EU, go to any wookiepedia page from the old EU, character, planet or concept, there's a huge chance it got mentioned or made a cameo appearance in some Disney comic or show. Also the Thrawn rabbit hole is far more pathetic than you can imagine. They basically made a big push for Thrawn in the new canon a while back, they even got Timothy Zahn to write canon Thrawn books, all in the hopes of getting old EU fans to get into new Disney canon. Of course it basically failed spectacularly since all the old fans that were already not completely alienated from Star Wars and gave the new Thrawn content a shot got nothing out of it because even with Timothy writing genuinely good books, absolutely nothing in the Disney EU is similar to them, so they have absolutely no incentive to watch the Disney+ slop or buy the other Disney comics / books.
>>219559903I'd go pumped-up kicks at Disney headquarters.
>>219556852Good.
>>219560955Pathetic.
>>219559903Tbh their works were already treated pretty badly by the old Lucasfilm, written material was already basically secondary canon, TCW was infamous for basically ignoring the stablished canon, but pretty much every audio-visual media like the games was already retconing shit left and right from the late 2000's until the Disney buy-out.
>>219556852The funny part is these dumbasses think it matters. Mara Jade wasn't technically "canon" before, but people liked her anyway because she was considered one of the good parts of the EU and whether fans like something is more important than the pronouncements of some distant arbiter of "canon", whether he's a jelly-necked old coot or a sour-faced dusty-pussied old roastie.Luke Skywalker was a hero who won, over and over again, by the power of resilience, humility, and kindness, who deprogrammed and married a smokin' hot redheaded former Imperial assassin, had a kid with her, and founded a new and better Jedi Order. Han and Leia get married and have several kids and despite their various trials and the loss of two of those children are never defeated or permanently forced apart by their pain, and in the end live lives of purpose and principle in service of others. Lando gets a sassy younger wife and becomes fabulously rich.Disnoids can seethe for the rest of time and real fans will always gravitate back to that portrayal of the characters from the EU because, despite the undeniable flaws of that continuity, anyone who cares about the OT characters wants to see them continue to succeed and get a happy ending. Not a perfect ending, not an ending free of strife or pain, but neither a cynical, depressing, nihilistic ending where Luke is a failure who tried to kill his nephew because of a bad dream and dies of cringe, Leia's entire life's work is a failure and she dies for nothing, and Han is a deadbeat dad who gets killed in the first act of the new story because Harrison Ford is a grumpy old shit. The EU story was, broadly, good and the Disney Trilogy is, universally, shit for fags. No proclamation, no intervention, no assertion from Disneyfilm can ever change that.
more like mary sue skywalker
>>219559304Never.
>>219561324I'd bury my tongue in her navel.
>Mara Jadealways thought this name was retarded
>>219561324why is she wearing pantiesgeorge said there's no underwear in space
Luke is so lucky
>>219561324>>219561422The Luke from Fanfiction is lucky the Canon Luke died a virgin in a island George never wanted Luke to have a girlfriend
>>219561422>Mario 27AbyWhat kinda name is that?
>>219556852I would love to see Jacen kill her again. The Disney trilogy should have been his story.
>>219561422If normies shat themselves after seeing Endor, I'd love to see their reactions to a hypothetical adaptation of Star by Star, that book was really depressing and desperate towards the end
>>219556852Thank christ. They already ruined Thrawn and even managed to assassinate Plagueis in a short span of time. Besides, there's no room for Mara in Disney's ideal storyline for Luke Skywalker.
>>219559234>was neverWas canon until Disney purchased the franchise dumb fuck
>>219561324You will never EVER be canon
>>219562043Lmao WRONG
>>219562114YOUR JOB IS DONE KATHLEEN, ITS OVER
>>219562180I'm sorry she hurt you I understand that you'll never be able to recover.
>>219562237Wolffag will bring back Mara Jade, just wait
>>219558244why stop at half? why not all of them? If you're going to alienate the audience do it right.
>>219556852He's guarding the lore.
>>219558196>Why does Disney hate money so much?Luke Skywalker doest have sex.
>>219561115Even the PT made parts of the EU awkward, despite the lack of a direct analogue.
>>219559234Force unleashed is canon
>>219562671Wrong
>>219562114Good. *click*
All of the Expanded Universe was utter garbage and even I knew that as soon as I read my first Star Wars novel when I was seven. The only good thing Disney has done with the franchise is throw it all in the trash. It's bad-fan fiction tier rubbish.
>>219556852>>219558196They just really really REALLY hate Luke Skywalker and don’t want him to have or ever had a wife/GF. Especially one that is a redhead (Hollywood hates Redheads).
>>219562789Maybe, but the sequels are objectively worse and Disney keeps stealing from the "garbage" of the EU.
>>219562840>I need forced romance that will add nothing to the character or storyGo play with your toys Timmy. Make them kiss.
>>219558669Luke is not allowed to have sex and reproduce. He must act like a flawed prequel Jedi that sits on his ass doing nothing 99% of the time. The Jedi and the Skywalker bloodline must die out.
>>219562789>All of the Expanded Universe was utter garbage>Allretarded take
>>219559304Yeah Disney is so much better.They made Luke an angry senior citizen.
>>219559391New Jedi Order would have printed money what the fuck were they thinking.
>>219563112>this is my wife Mara! She sure is sassy and I'm a straight shooter>boy howdy we sure do argue but we are both really good jedi!But buh DISNEY
>>219562979The Skywalker "bloodline" wasn't even a natural thing anyways, I can buy that there were a few specific people the Force willed into being to help the galaxy in its time of need and then they died out when their job was done
>>219558196Too white
>>219563067Its garbage that fat white women read
>>219562789Woah, that's an insane ability, you read one novel at 7 and already got immediate insight on hundreds of books, comics and games? You must have 10 PhD's with this level of precognitive literacy.
>>219556852>mara jade won’t be canonized>heres disneys original character Lara Blade. >a black force user actually stronger than Luke and her extreme power is what he felt and drew him to her from across the galaxy >also she’s a lesbian(yeah we know she’s marrying a white man shut up) Where was she during his destruction of the temple>she was saving the universe from an even bigger threat>the patriarchy
sex with Jaina
>>219558244Always the white bitches
>>219563199It's genuinely sad that 99% of people that consider themselves Star Wars fans will never experience this, I wish I could experience this again for the first time again, it's genuinely magical.
>>219562568Yes he does! He had a son and his kid was a bad ass! It was totally Canon! They had action figures!
>>219563531It's an edgy rip off of the borg with every author having their donut steel characters. No fucking thank you.
>>219562568Luke Skywalker has to have sex for the rejection of the flaws of the old jedi orderThe whole 6 movie endeavor becomes pointless if he doesn't marry and reproduce
>>219563672>Trekfag ragebaityaaaaaaaaaawn
>>219563743And yet you can't prove me wrong. Maybe you just need more of the embrace of pain to prove what a big edgy boy you are.
>>219556852Can't imagine anyone into the EU enough to care about this character would want to see Disney fuck her up anyway
>>219563728>The story has to be this way because I said soGeorge is a eunuch with no biological children and everything we know of his loose conceptualization of what his sequel trilogy would look like seems to imply Luke would have gone virgin monk in exile mode
>>219563728>Luke Skywalker has to have sex for the rejection of the flaws of the old jedi orderThat’s total bullshit.
Where would she even fit in? They should leave her in the EU grave. There's nowhere coherent for her to exist in the current canon and there never will be.
>>219563531A lot of EUfags hated NJO at the time and probably still do.
>>219563728Wut
>>219563480>exec>whiteI doubt that.
>>219558196A better question is why do people want Disney to "canonize" old characters. Do they not see how they've been handling the franchise? It's been a fucking decade of nothing but shit.
>>219559234>prequels
>>219562789I don't think we can write off ALL of the EU. When I was seven I read a few of those Young Jedi Knights books and had a pretty good time. As a teenager I read TFU's novelization and also had a good time. Now as an adult I'm reading Shatterpoint, Cloak of Deception and the Bane books, still having a good time. I will admit there are some things I fucking hate even about the stuff I like, but surely it's not all so bad as to throw the whole thing out.
>>219562789Making it non-canon was the correct choice but everything Disney did after that was wrong>instead of having tiers of canon, let's make everything canon so obscure comics and novels are required to understand what the fuck is going on>instead of identifying the strongest stories and adapting them like we did with the MCU, let's just take whatever while making it legally distinct enough that we don't have to pay royalties >instead of having a single cohesive vision for the new trilogy (the new foundation of the franchise that we're building all the theme parks and video games around), let's have some retard that has no clue how to write a complete story start it and then hand it off to someone else
>>219556852Good. In the current landscape of Star Wars only a retarded person or a purposeful subversive would want to tarnish the fan legacy of Mara Jade.
>>219563531It was fun at the time, but it hasn't aged that well.With that said, the Vong are a very refreshing antagonist. It moves away from the X-Wings vs TIE Fighters, wacky Imperial garrison that didn't get the memo the war is over finding the superweapon of the week that was kinda getting old in the EU by that point. And what I think also makes the Sequels feel tired.
>>219565624>>instead of having tiers of canon, let's make everything canon so obscure comics and novels are required to understand what the fuck is going onIt's amazing how they created a continuity headache that makes it harder for writers to tell spinoff stories than the admittedly clunky EU system.
>>219556852the way she died in EU was retarded anyway
>>219558196because it's Rey SkywalkerNot Mara Jade Skywa- oh
sydney sweeney guri
>>219558196The only thing they hate more than they love money are redheads. They will never allow it to happen.
>>21956119910/10 post, tiny hats completely btfo for all time.
Fanfic tier character
>>219558196I mean they’ve basically killed the golden goose. They know they’ll never make what they could’ve. The franchise is a shell of its former self. If they do shit like bring back Mara jade that would just signal to the shareholders that they know what they did wrong. Can’t have accountability.
>>219571867the thread is about mara jade not rey
kate mara
>>219560067It also works because pretty much everyone thinks she’s insufferable until she mellows out.Luke and Kaarde only like her in spite of her attitude, and Leia completely disarms her by just bulldozing through it whenever the speak.
Luke's best pairing is ___Leia____. Prove me wrong.
Luke doesn't need a failed marriage/widowing to further compound his misery in Disney Wars.
>>219558196They print the money, they just need everyone to fight
>>219574967Mara being driven insane by Luke refusing to give a shit about being trapped in a predator infested forest with an increasingly methed up girl who wants him dead was the best part of the book.
>>219558196You know what they hate more? Paying royalties
>>219562519why does he wear the hat?
>>219575558This, Mara is Timothy Zahn's "orange buttcheeks" and there's no way Filoni or anyone else will see her as Zahn would intend her to be on screen. Basically Filoni and all the other cunts have to go.
>>219560067>>219573230tf? she's a straight up Mara Stu
What if Mara played Mara?
>>219576043Mary Sues wouldn’t fuck up a choke so badly that the target thinks his collar on a bit tight. Or get forced to hide under a table until the person they pissed off with their oblivious arrogance decides that they’re not worth killing.
Here’s your Mara Jade
>>219556852>Here's something fans would be interested in and spend money on.>No.
>>219559391It was so fucking easyAll they had to do was to recast luke, han and leia and make a trilogy about them building the new jedi order and new republic while fightning empire remanant
>>219556852>>219558196Men this is why i hate star wars fansThey are so childlish, so consoomed by the product, and then gets exited for next productIt's so cringe watching them debate why their favourite character from the coloring book is not canon>But it's in the product!Jesus christ mega cringe
>>219556852Even her creator despises her, so good
She wouldn't make any sense in disney canon unless they retcon the fuck out of the ST and no way is that happening >>219578377Wrong
>>219560955>randomly>basically>basically>spectacularly>completely>genuinely>absolutely>absolutelybruh you gave me adverb aids
>>219561199Good post, strong post, and dare I say, a vital post?
i pray she will never again be touched. In our current day and age, they will make her a hideous cunt who will belittle Luke, dumb him and replace him with some black dudeobscurity is preferrable to modern reimagining
>>219562652>>219562652>Even the PT made parts of the EU awkward, despite the lack of a direct analogue.This is true. I just read a Jedi Prince book (kek) where Leia says that Yoda lived in isolation on Dagobah for centuries.
>>219578694>obscurity is preferrable to modern reimagining
>>219578694This is why I’m glad Kyle only got ripped off (about three times by my count) by disney rather than adapted. Hopefully the references to Revan they’ve made are just memberberries, rather than them gearing up for them to try crudely welding the old republic with the high republic
If Filoni's baby yeet movie flops, how hard will Disney double down on their lame and gay timeline?
>>219580305They've been pretty clear that old republic and high republic are different eras even though the latter doesn't make a fucking lick of sense. But there's a new old republic game in the works and the mere fact that it got greenlit means lucasfilm is thinking about that era again
>>219559784Should have been sigourney weaver but filoni is wasting her on some bit character in his glup shitto movie.
>>219556852>Mara Jade>>219558369>>mara jade>>219559234>Mara Jade>>219559784>Mara Jade>>219560100>Mara Jade>>219560489>>Mara Jade>Mara Jade>>219560577>Mara Jade>>219561199>Mara Jade>>219561375>>Mara Jade>>219562293>Mara Jade<<219563422>>mara jade<<219567185>Mara Jade<<219572661>Mara Jade<<219573062>mara jade<<219578035>Mara Jade
>>219556852Even a broken cuck is right twice a day. Only "that guy" likes Mara Jade.
>>219580970And beep boop to you too
>>219581492Sorry manosphere cuck luke staying an incel like you was always a fucking retarded idea
>>219581531>proving yourself as "that guy"Good job, retard.
>>219562979>>219563242It's ironic that in the current canon Darth Revan's bloodline carried over for at minimum 200 years, producing Jedi after Jedi after Jedi.
>>219580794>But there's a new old republic game in the worksIt's been rebooted 3 times. At this point it probably costed them more than the Old Republic.
>>219556852Good, Lucas hated her.>>219558196Normies don't know who Mara Jade is. Darth Maul is a far more popular character and he got his own show.
>>219581662>his own showWhile he is a major character it's clearly a vehicle to introduce the little twilek girl into the universe and make her a half assed darth talon so fans will stop asking for her.
>>219565624>>219570725Anons, Disney canon is completely meaningless because they constantly retcon and contradict one another.The Knights of Ren have a total of 3 different backstories.
She's like the only well written female jedi in any star wars media ever. No wonder disney won't use her.
>>219556852>Mara Jade won’t be canonizedIs this the official stance of the church?
>>219581765you act like George didn't contradict himself and retcon shit all the time >noooo it wasn't a retcon when the prequels did it because I was a toddler when I watched those movies
>cry about how bad EU is>somehow Darth Maul surviving is canonFuck normalfags.
>>219582081It's okay when George does it because I hate disney so everything george does is okay in comparison
Imagine the fucking hubris>be disney>buy star wars>have decades of original stories and the largest and most dedicated fanbase of any media>toss aside all existing work completely>start over with your own shit>don't even plan out a whole trilogy, just throw a single film together and assume it'll work outIt's unbelievable
>>219582081>contradict himself and retcon shit all the timeCare to give an example?
>>219582271Anon, we outright have quotes for why that happened - they were honestly 100% convinced they already have the male/sweaty nerd demographic completely covered, and that they would eat up any slop they served.
>>219582271>Even when you accidentally stumble upon something the fans like (Mandalorian) you end up fucking it up and losing their interest
>>219582363still makes me laugh to this day
>>219556852thank fuckyidsney touching anything EU is a disasterit's impressive how even the worst bottom barrel of EU is usually better than anything these worthless people put outfuck filoni btw
why are prequelfags so obsessed with making their shitty old fanfiction canon?
>>2195822139/10 people shitting on the EU are deflecting because it’s commonly compared favourably to disney’s vomit. The eternally duplicitous filonifag is probably the best example but he’s not the only one.
>>219559985apparently hollywood cant spell ginger correctly and always gets the anagram
>>219561422Made for bigger Luke
>>219581636Huh? This is a brand new project from Casey Hudson's new studio. Are you thinking of Eclipse or Amy Hennig's star wars game? I think the latter was announced and canceled and announced a few times.
>>219583013No, I mean the KOTOR remake. It's been rebooted three times now, each time by a different studio.
>>219580970
>>219582232>so everything george does is okay in comparisonBut it was George who first came out with concept of Darth Tantrum.
>>219582823>9/10 people shitting on the EU are deflecting because it’s commonly compared favourably to prequelsfix
>>219584325>Creating Magic Is Not for AmateursTrve...
>>219563457She is TIE'd to Empire.
>>219584499>says a guy who needs wife's help to fix his casualised Dune fanfic
>>219584625Reddit Letter Media propaganda doe...
>>219584717>Reddit Letter Media propaganda doe...I see Lucas on the photo, but don;t see George.
>>219556852The ONLY way to save Star Wars is to retcon the sequels and do the best parts of the EU
>>219584912>and do the best parts of the EUSorry but it's immoral to bully Christensen into suicide by making KOTOR movies.
>>219585073I actually don't think they should do KotOR because while it's great it's also an rpg and it would mean picking a canon character and basically retconning the game for people who didn't play that way. Just leave the games as canon but leave it ambiguous and instead adapt stories that work as movies. Or just retcon the sequels and do something new, I don't care just remove all the Rey Kylo stupid Luke etc garbage.
>>219585224>I actually don't think they should do KotOR because while it's great it's also an rpg and it would mean picking a canon character and basically retconning the game for people who didn't play that way.The only big variants in KOTORs is gender (most picked male Revan and male Exile because of Space Jesus and Brianna, so issue will be only with Exile, which can be easily adressed by Brianna joinning female Exile along with Disciple or just making Space Jesus) and Light-Dark side (again, player's consensus overwhelmingly was Light Side in both cases)
>>219585224They can do movies set during the old republic that aren't based on the game. The jedi civil war and republic v sith war are very interesting backdrops with an infinite number of story ideas and the only thing you have to deal with when canonizing it is ignoring lucas's autistic fixation on the rule of two that he says lasted for thousands of years and was never ever ignored by power hungry beings
>>219585327>They can do movies set during the old republic that aren't based on the game.
>>219559784It doesn't matter who WE would cast, Disney would cast some ugly shouty negress if they decided to go with it.
It's still crazy how disney's first experience with star wars was to brutally murder all story potential the setting has post-ROTJ
>>219585493Also how they didn't even care about whether there was a coherent story. It was literally>idk make movie 1 be a soulless copy of ep4 to draw in the fans>idk do whatever in movie 2, oh you want to retcon movie 1 and shit on everything people liked about star wars, sure go ahead>idk fans didn't like that so retcon some of movie 2 and add some random garbagelike what the actual fuck were they thinking
