of SHIIIIIIEEEET!
We need all 5
>>219579899>2026>I am forgotten
>>219579899>Early 00s fantasy book series for children covers
way of wonton fire and ramen
>>219579899The level of craftsmanship that went into these films is mind-boggling!
>>219580609warcraft 3 covers
Water-Fire. Was the first movie considered the Earth one? Will the next be Wind?
these movies are the star wars prequals, their great everyone loves them other than obsessed redditors who keep insisting their not relevant because they dont like them.
>>219581947Ice.
>>219579899NO CULTURAL LEGACY WHATSOEVER
>>219584431>if I keep repeating it it will become true
>>219579899Pieces of shit movies from a piece of shit movie series. The first movie was mildly tolerable if you make the effort of ignoring the illogic act of betraying your own species, but the other two are such obnoxious niggerspeak filled drivel without any substance to match to beautiful scenery, that I sincerely wish Varang would have holocausted every single navi tribe like they fucking deserve.
>>219584577>bro just support the people who abandoned you
>>219584577>bad movie because im a chud sociopath who hates nature bad argument
>>219584464prove him wrong then
>>219584754Hating nature is enlightened and whitepilled. If you're not at least antagonistic towards nature you're way behind
>>219584577Every time I heard on of those blue hood rats, in the second of third movies, say "bro" or "cuz" or any other niggerspeak shit I would cringe irl. So fucking disgusting.
more like masterpieces of shit
>>219584754I don't hate nature but I also do not put it above my own kind. In a perfect world there would be balance but in reality you need to put human interests and survival above anything else. Anything else is suicide.
Already forgotten. No cultural legacy.
>>219579899I only saw the first one because I don't know if any of these add anything meaningful to the series or are just nebulous drawn out cash grabs that are idolized by the fan base.
>>219584996There's no fanbase, they are just gimmick movies people watch for the sfx.
is there a blu-ray rip yet?
>>219585077cuh, it's next month bro
>>219585051>people watch for the big blue bitches
>>219579899Do i have to slog through way of water if i want to watch third one for loco indigenous pyromaniac girl?
>>219585304Way of Water might just be the best one. Maybe it doesn't hit the same way watching it at your house but seeing it in cinemas was basically a once in a lifetime experience, like James Cameron wiping away all the sludge and shit from Hollywood for 2-3 hours and showing you "this is what you can have when the creators really care about quality".
>>219585304water and fire have similar steak with fire having an extra caveat of the steak
>>219580554>forgetting Varang and her beautiful arse
>>219585186A whole month until high quality Neys?!?
>>2195853042 & 3 are one movie.
>>219585304No, watch only the Varang scenes. The rest is a pointless rehash of 2
>>219581194They look so good that audiences completely forget the people on screen aren't just people wearing a costume. Neytiri, Kiri, Varang don't exist but viewers fully believe they do. The effects are state of the art and best in the industry. Puts all other movies to shame big time. That's why the third movie kinda hurts. I wish Jim had a better story arc for 3 but I think there was big drama and re-writes behind the scenes.
>>219584874Firstly, the Navi aren't speaking English to each other, they are speaking in their own language. The only time English is spoken is when they talk to the sky people. Secondly, they are allowed to have slang in their language.Can't believe I share a board with such media illiterate people.
I watched 2 and 3 like two weeks ago, after only having seen the first one when it came out. They weren't like, offensively bad by any means, though I wouldn't say they were amazing. As CGI novelties they're fine, at no point was I brought out of the experience by bad or ugly CGI or low-effort stuff, it's very clear that significant artistic effort went into every shot. Narratively, though they were just average, just kind of generic plots with some fantasy worldbuilding on top of them. My biggest issue is actually not with the characters or the world or the CGI or any of that, but more the fact that Avatar 1, 2, and 3 are all literally the exact same movie. They have the same central plot, the same characters, and the same conflicts, with only minor changes in the scenery around those elements. Which is why I have to wonder, since they are making a 4th one, is that ALSO going to have the same plot? Is Avatar 4 just going to be "Humans come back, again again, this time they're both after a different Pandora resource for money but also sending their best military tech out to find Jake Sully"? The exact same thing that happened three times already? Or are we going to get some sort of narrative progression of the world where now that the Navi have guns and shit we don't need to bother with that anymore and can do something else.
>>219587483>literally the exact same movieNo, they're not. All other points of your garbage disingenuous opinion discarded and not necessary to read.
>>219588626What exactly is the difference between Avatar 1, 2, and 3? >Humans come>Humans want thing>Humans beat up some Navi to get thing and fuck with their nature in the process>Jake Sully leads his adoptive people to fight back against the humans despite being outmatched technologically but they're going to win anyway.>Some magic macguffin shit happens to help them at some point. The set dressing is different but all three movies are literally just this.
>>219585077the webrips are very decent.
>>219589126easily impressed by loud noises low IQ cat
>>219584763
>>219589150easily impressed by cute alien cat girls low IQ humans
>>219589535why are na'vi women so horny for avatar men?
>>219579899imo Way of Water is closer to a masterpiece. Fire and Ash feels like a lot was lost in editing, rewrites, reshoots, and it falls short of whatever the original vision for it was.With stuff like >abrupt ending with no sense of what the new status quo is or how much the big finale mattered >Doctor Garvin vanishes, we're not shown if he escaped or if he paid a price for helping save Jake >no explanation for the giant flux vortex being there, so it comes across as just another obligatory sky beam in a blockbuster >Lyle is handed Neytiri's bow, Neytiri has her bow back a couple scenes later, we're not shown what happened in between or where Lyle went >David Thewlis as the leader of the Wind Traders has only a couple lines, and was clearly meant to be more significant than that
>>219589126
>>219590782And Lyle should have had a big problem with riding out with Quaritch any way. Lyle was a loyal soldier following orders and shown to be losing trust in Quaritch after Quaritch repeatedly fucks up their missions and is going native. Now Quaritch is grounded by the lawful commander of the human forces and Lyle is supposed to just be like "eh, you want to break the law fly out? I'll go with you!" It seemed more like they were setting up a conflict arc to arise between them which would actually grow Lyle's character or at least have Lyle disagree and remain at base as ordered. But then just dropped it and kept Lyle as a dumb stooge only loyal to Quaritch no matter what. Quaritch was supposed to go full traitor and kill the General even. Would have been more interesting than what we got with the General being one of the most disappointing things in any Cameron film in history.
2 and 3 are basically the same movie
I kept waiting for jake sully or the colonel to make a dont stick your dick in crazy joke, but it never happened
>>219591719>at least have Lyle disagree and remain at base as orderedhe's in the final battle in one short scene so most people in the avatar threads on /tv/ thought he did stay behind (showing his ash gf the gym and barbeque)
>>219579899Watches ass and fire a couple of days ago. Was the longest 3 hours of my life. Holy shit was that movie just one long ass slog of nothing ever happens
reminder that the only people who like avatar ARE broke ass serbians who call it "abatap" unironically because they're illiterate who think avatar is a story about genociding bosniak muslims /thread
>>219592565This is the first post in the archive to ever include the words "avatar" and "serbians" together
>>219592565>>219592620lets fucking GOOOO serbianGODS
Avatar sucked and I’m glad it’s over.
>>219593192It's not over. Just won't get another one for at least another 5 years probably
>>219593313She’s dead Jim
>>219593890Grossing $1.49 billion and being the #16 highest grossing film of all time isn't something you just give up on, despite the drop-off from Avatar 1 and 2.No one's talking about ending it, they're talking about finding ways to produce the movies cheaper and faster.
>>219594114I’m peeing on its corpse.
>>219594349Still mad it reminded you that you don’t have a soul huh.
>>219594515I’m doing a poo in a cute cat’s mouth
>>219579899Torrent when?
>>219594839Like 10 days ago. It's out on digital now
>>219595196>>219594839*though oddly, the version I watched had all the PG-13 "language" dubbed over. So all usage of >bitch, bastard, jackass became a comical >brat, maggot, dimwit Hopefully you find one that was ripped from a different place
>>219595464WTF?
>>219587467They used the made-up word skxawng to refer to their friends in a teasing manner in lieu of 'dummy' or 'silly'. They absolutely should have done the same with 'bro' or 'cuz', sounded completely out of place. They even had 'ma tsmuke' the older ones used in the first movie but for the zoom zooms they started saying 'cuz' and it sounded absolutely retarded
>>219598983Good thing then, that in the next one they are all grown up. So that shouldn’t be a problem anymore
I love simping for slop shit out by multibillion dollar corporations and effeminate old men!
>>219599384Yeah hopefully. Won't fix the fact that the two sequels were dogshit but supposedly they made money so maybe cameron will get his full pentalogy.
>>219579899Nobody on Earth honestly believes this. I respect Cameron's deep commitment to preserving and protecting nature, however these movies are just way to self-indulgent and hamfisted. WOW THE ULTRAGIGALLIONAIRES OF DA FUTURE WANT TO EAT SPACE WHALE BRAINS BECAUSE IT WILL LET THEM LIVE FOREVER, ERM NATIVES CAN BE FOOLED INTO DESTROYING THEIR SACRED CULTURE BECAUSE THEY GET SHINY ROCKS(that shoot fire) AND THIS IS LE BAD! Cameron is a masterful artist and director but these movies as his final legacy are a joke.
>>219595464>Avatar Fire and Ash 2025 2160p AMZN WEB-DL DDP5.1 HDR10+ HEVC-KyoGoThis one has the unaltered audio. It's a mixed bag unfortunately, some have the child-friendly version, and it's usually unmarked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHdAoE9qNs
>>219600362Something absurd about how there's a special edit protecting children's ears from hearing the word "bitch," but all the violence is still there. >Lo'ak almost shooting himself >Mangkwan ritual cutting >Jake pulling the arrow out of his thigh
>>219601399Get away from her you Brat !
Tuktirey is the key to all of this
>>219595464Whay did the F-bomb get replaced with?
>>219607230Garvin says >Is my protest noted now, fellas? instead of fuckers
I don't remember what happened, but did >>219589332 actually like, escape and survive? The last scene I remember her being in was when she was on the wrecked ship and she hair-braid-psychic-dueled with Sigourney Weaver's character (I still hate that she's a 70 year old woman voicing a teenager, by the way), and then they hissed at eachother and then Varaang ran away, and just was never seen again, right?
>>219607966Correct
>>219607966After that we see her in her flying mount I think
>>219607966She gets on her mount and flies away right before the ship is pulled into the vortex. This is her looking back at the ship as it explodes.Yeah it's kind of out of character for Kiri to decide yelling BITCH at her is enough, and to not actually eliminate the threat
How many times did the sarge and majake do the whole 'we're enemies but on the same side temporarily'? It felt like it just kept happening again and again and holy shit it got old so fucking fast
>>219608267Especially when Kiri told the squids to kill all humans
How would you guys rate the trilogy so far? Which is the best
>>219609095I enjoyed the third the most so far, it feels way better paced than the first two and I didn't get as bored despite the run time.
>>219609095Avatar 1- 8/10 Way of Water- 9/10 Fire and Ash- 7/10 I rate Fire and Ash the lowest because of stuff I listed here >>219590782
>>219609258Hell no, the first is about a 7.5/10, second is a 6/10 and third is a 4/10
Kiri has an old woman's voice, I mean, you can tell it's a granny just by hearing it, it very off-putting
>>219609312Way of Water is better than the first one. It does something original, it stays smaller-scale with no major victory over the enemy which is unusual and refreshing for a big blockbuster, and it's not so obviously derivative of prior works
>>219599762>AND THIS IS LE BAD!
>>219609496I really like that about TWOW. it's not about having to save the entire planet - just the sully family.
>>219609095Avatar 10/10Way of the the Water 7/10Fire and Ash 8/10
>>219590782>abrupt ending with no sense of what the new status quo is or how much the big finale matteredSpider became a Na'vi.
>>219579899Fire and Ash was pretty bad. I don’t know why Cameron thinks he can keep this going for half a dozen of movies if he’s already losing steam by the third entry. He should have made a trilogy and moved on
>>21960909510/109/107/10 overusage of blurring the background (matte painting tier)
>>219584464No memes no legacy. Only Qatarich posting from the first movie
>>219579899I'm marathoning The Way of Water for the first time and it's decent so far except for:>The "heh, yeah that's me, Jake Sully. A lot has gone on in my life" exposition at the beginning>Generic ass score
>>219617948>Generic ass score I actually really like Way of Water's score, though the better tracks are mostly in the second half of the movie. I won't link it since you're not there yet but "From Darkness to Light" is a standout
I had an impossible time suspending disbelief that the native force would be able to overcome the weaponry, equipment, intelligence gathering, and tactics of a space-faring humanity. They'd get utterly fucking smoked, and I don't remember anything that showed why that shouldn't be the case. But it was ages ago since I watched the first one, and I only caught part of one of the sequels besides that.
>>219608413It happened twice in a movie that’s over 3 hours long and both times it was to save their kids
>>219619697two too many times
>>219619635The native force mostly doesn't overcome the human technology. In each movie they get some kind of assist from Pandoran wildlife. When the native force scores small wins on its own, it's through guerilla tactics and having acquired human weaponry. At the beginning of the 3rd movie there's a scene where Jake argues he can't fight back with arrows and spears, and has no choice but to collect human guns and explosives even though the Na'vi frown upon it
>>219579899They both have like 30 mins that are uninteresting. It's almost impossible to not zone out of these movies at some point.
>>219579899>way of water aquatic battle involving big human boat>ash and fire aquatic battle involving big human boatI guess Cameron ran out of money and had to re-use assets to get the 3rd movie made.
I will marry Tuktirey next movie
>>219617848Next movie she will be smiling more
>>219591648weren't these things living in seclusion for a thousand years? howd she speak English right away?
>>219622960They are speaking Navi with each other, it’s only English for us
>>219585186>/tv/ when there's a movie that's the vision of single director (plus his buddy Jon Landau) and not a sequel or a reboot of something from the 80s.
>>219581947Gas.*BRRAAAAAP*
>>219619635The entire planet's wildlife is controlled by a hive mind that wants humans dead outside of the perimeter they've established. In the script there are even viruses created by Eywa to kill humans. The atmosphere is also toxic without a mask. From the perspective of mankind Pandora is a nightmare.
>>219622869Next movie she will be suffering more*
Avatar 2 is the odd one out. Kino randomly placed in an otherwise mediocre trilogy.The first film is a very cliched 5 or 6 /102 is a genuine 8 or 9/103 is like a 6 or 7/103 would be a lot better if it wasn't such a retread of 2, or if it had an ending that actually concluded anything
>>219579899Pic unrelated? Lets be real here for a second, this generation has no cultural identity. I mean, they do if you count capeshit and nostalgia bait media but that´s somehow even sadder. That fact may make something like avatar, which has an average narrative and it´s technically profiscient, like something remarkable when in truth it´s just mediocre. There is just nothing memorable or iconic about it and the cinematography lacks any kind of authoral stylish identity. To call it a masterpiece just because it´s not as shit at the rest of the contemporary productions is plain simply wrong. That kind of nomenclature is reserved for films that are objectively the best of the best cinema has to offer, for timeless classics capable of enduring the test of time. It is not something to be so easily awarded.
