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>rhaenyra is 12-13 years old in the books when this scene happens
>they raise her age to 17-19?
>cast her so she looks 13 anyway

why do americans do this
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>>219628593
It's different in monke years
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>>219628998
they knew what they were doing lol
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>>219628593
Because America is a dying pedophile empire
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>>219629026
they wanted so bad to make her 12 but they couldnt get permission llolol
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you know, little girls do be having the sex pretty often in this dude's books
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>>219629638
In fire & blood it's insinuated Daemon first fucked her when she was like 11 or 12. Some sick shit.
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They say it's the finest most succulent pleasure a man can experience
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>>219628593
I'm gonna fuck that monke
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I'm not agreeing or anything, I'm just saying they say that
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>>219629638
Juliet was 13 and Romeo was in his mid-20s, but nobody complains about Shakespeare.
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>>219629638
Same with the guy who wrote the witcher
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>>219628593
The princess is a whore
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>>219631116
weren't they both 13 ?
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>>219631993
Romeo was mid-late teens or early 20s, it’s never specified. That’s why they’re called “Romeo and Juliet laws”
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>>219629638
People didn't care in medieval times, Mohamed married a 9 year old
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>>219631041
The cleanest, best pleasure…
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>>219632082
He is considered by most to be 16, so a typical enough high school relationship. Romeo has a quote about going to school during the balcony scene which doesn’t really fit the vibe of him being a 20 yr old groomer.
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>>219632196
>they had traditional K-12 public education in the 1500s
University started at like 15 back then anyways
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>>219632288
Just saying his lines reflect he has a similar mindset to Juliet and there’s zero evidence he was considered an adult by anyone in the story so you just look like a pedo when desperately trying to make him a 20 yr old.
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>age her up
>no nudity
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>>219632385
Why would his age being different affect whether he’s a pedo or not? The object of his attention is always the same age.
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>>219628593
Because they want to profit from exploiting the natural tendency of males towards youth, then they profit again by AI scanning all your images and conversations for the sake of protecting children (people under 18) from any material that they decide sexualizes them. There's also this element of guilty I believe - I know it sounds slightly schizo but they want you to feel as bad as you can about yourself. It's not a coordinated effort or anything, but it's just the way the world works right now - it's turned into some weird monstrosity with kikes playing an integral role in it, the adult white male without power is constantly demeaned and destroyed and especially anything regarding a sexuality is eviscerated.

Pic related is a frame from literally two and a half minutes into the first episode of Euphoria, meant to be a girl between the ages of 8 and 12.
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>>219628593
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>>219632514
“Pedo” means sexually attracted to prepubescents. It has no other meaning.
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>>219632514
It doesn’t make Romeo look like one, it makes the poster above look like one when he said “well uh Romeo was 20 and no one complains about Shakespeare” for trying to pass it off as a story about an adult dating a child and saying it was being normal back then.
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>>219632086
yes but today we have modern laws to save us from even the thoughts.
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>>219632947
>Margaret Cunny-n
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>>219628593
i was pretty surprised when this scene popped up, not having read the books
pretty ballsy for what is pretty much slightly elevated YA-slop
>they raise her age to 17-19?
did they?
>>219629638
makes complete sense in the medieval setting, having children wasn't really optional if you weren't clergy
but iirc grrm has it turned around (like a lot of people), highborn women generally married/consummated later than their lower born counterparts
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>>219629638
Because they're not little girls they're women. People lived to maybe 50 back then. You needed to fuck when you're capable of reproduction.
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>>219632707
I mean 13 is definitely not an age a pedophile would be most attracted to
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Some 13 year olds have whopper tits
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>>219633078
people also seem to forget empiric sience wasn't really a thing so nobody knew outcome for pregnancies is way better if the woman is 18 to twenty-something
and you're right, if you need multiple children for your family/clan to thrive and you got a newborn/child mortality of .3 you really have to start ASAP
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>>219633532
They don't forget they're just stupid and brainwashed. I was talking to my friends npc gf about licorice pizza and she was like "I couldn't understand how no one thought this was super weird." The movie took place in the fucking 70s. Hell in the late 90s to early 2000s there were websites that counted down to when the Olsen twins turned 18 or something. People look at history with a modern lense and it's truly baffling.
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The concept of children didn't really exist until at least the 19th century, for the majority of history children were just considered smaller adults. That's why no one had problems with stuff like child soldiers, child labor, or marrying children.
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>>219633712
holding multiple viewpoints in your head is very very hard, you see?
and what do you do when you have to explain that some of those views are not what (you) believe? you may be ostracized before you are able to and then it's all over!
no, no. way more save to just be in sync with current thing.
>>219633954
that is a gross oversimplification if you aren't just baiting

back on topic: daemon really fucked here
imo, if he had actually finished (? still not clear if he couldn't hold it/had ed/suddenly grew a conscience (lmao!)) what he started a lot of grief could have been avoided
way bigger fuckup than coming on to his prepubescent niece in the grand scheme of things
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>>219633712
Brooke Shields in playboy is the one that always gets me. Like people must’ve thought being a pedo was quirk chungus back then. It was the era of teenage girls hitchhiking and being murdered en masse after all. A more innocent time
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>>219634267
For actual people they can understand viewpoints. For NPCs they're not really listening.
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>>219634371
I'm pretty sure you can still find those photos and buy the book they're in.
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this meme but real
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>>219629015
He looked so much better with short hair
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>>219634460
Some anon linked them the other day, in a thread much like this
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>>219629638
just like real life
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>>219634267
*really fucked up here lel
>>219634420
it is how it is, same as it ever was, probably.
>>219634446
Tribhuvan really didn't waste ANY time, huh.
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>>219634460
You most definitely can find them very easily
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>>219633515
Anon, why do you stare at 13yo tits....
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>>219634371
They had her full frontal in a regular movie at 12 years old back then.
There's more movie nudity of her underage than adult.
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>>219634890
They really didn’t care about child nudity back then because it was taken for granted that nobody would be sexually aroused by it and at most it could be viewed as aesthetic beauty.
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>>219634941
Yeah this. She was 10 in Playboy literally oiled up fully nude and it was just considered provocative art at the time.
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>>219634941
>They really didn’t care about child nudity back then because it was taken for granted that nobody would be sexually aroused by it and at most it could be viewed as aesthetic beauty.
NTA, but have you seen that movie? Nothing aesthetic about it, shit was a full on exploitation flick.
>>219634890
>regular movie
If you only count straight up porn as non-regular maybe.
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>>219635056
> NTA, but have you seen that movie? Nothing aesthetic about it, shit was a full on exploitation flick.
It’s one of the most aesthetic movies ever, what are you talking about?
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>>219635024
>nude rag for people to fap to
>we put the elementary schooler in here for art reasons
Riiiight...
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>>219635118
Cum wasn’t leaking out of peoples ears back then. People enjoyed titillation, eroticism, beauty, provocation. Playboy readers wanted to feel highbrow, which is why there were all sorts of articles and avant garde/political stuff and not just tits and ass (penthouse or hustler were more straight fap mags)

couldn’t just look up skullfuck porn on their phone yk.
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>>219635118
Not saying there weren't some people involved that knew what they were doing (like Brooke's mom). Just that's how they got away with selling nudes of a 10yo
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>>219635255
>Not saying there weren't some people involved that knew what they were doing (like Brooke's mom). Just that's how they got away with selling nudes of a 10yo
Fair point anon, didn't consider this.
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>>219635211
while you are correct in arguing that sexuality and procreation have been more and more disconnected the further we go along, consider:
>one of the first known human artefacts is a fertility godess with bigass titties
>good portion of ancient texts is "sex, sex, sex"
>medieval monks painting dicks half the size of the dudes they're attached to
i could go on. face it, coomers are eternal
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>>219631270
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>219629015
Imagine being cast because you look inbred
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>>219634814
It's not up to me. I'm a Federal Boobs Inspector (Juvenile Enforcement Division). I didn't choose this life but it feeds my family.
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>>219628593
>waah stick to the source material!
>waaah dont stick to the source material!!!
>waaaaaaah
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>>219635255
>>219635428
think we are forgetting the fact this happened at the very tail-end of the free love movement, before the counter-movements to it really got rolling
>it was just avant-garde with a small clique in the now
come on now
>>219635718
aren't most dragons described as beautiful in the books?
think as long as you're not typecast as later habsburg king, you're good.
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>>219635552
Halfway through the novels it turns into a story about various parties molesting Ciri’s nubile young body. Did you read it?
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>>219628593
why does her face look so... bloated?
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Is it me, or does George RR Martin just have a skewed idea of what kids and young people are like because he’s never had kids?

It goes way beyond the sexualised stuff. Where you have everybody marrying and having kids at 14 and 15 (believe it or not this was NOT in fact, normalised in medieval culture)

But you even have shit like 15 year old king Robb being some mature tactical genius in battle

Eddard saying Rickon needs to watch the beheading because he’s not gonna be a boy forever (he’s THREE in the start of the first book, I doubt he could even walk that far let alone watch and understand what the fuck is happening when ned executes somebody)

Maybe part of it is the missing five year gap
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>>219636032
Lust
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>>219636108
> Where you have everybody marrying and having kids at 14 and 15 (believe it or not this was NOT in fact, normalised in medieval culture)
Maybe not for your lowborn ancestors, knave
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>>219635255
That must be a valuable edition, right?
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>>219636147
Even nobles who got married young were rarely stupid enough to try and have children before they finished deceloping. Child birth was already fatal like 40% of the time, making the odds worse by doing so when you haven’t finished developing your body is retarded

Especially when you consider girls of medieval era didn’t develop nearly as fast as modern girls. Modern girls are getting their period at like 11 or 12 on average. While it wouldn’t be unusual to only get your first period when you’re 15, 16. 17 back then because of much lower nutrition and hormones in food
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>>219636373
There's a copy on amazon going for $1k
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>>219632947
>""Daddy" fantasy book child abuse material: cop

Did anyone else feel like half their brain died reading that?
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>>219628593
so did they accomplish ANYTHING by aging her up?
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>>219636640
dunno why but american headlines always are retarded and hard to read
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>>219636557
worth it
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>>219634651
how long ago was this, asking for a friend.
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>>219636508
If girls developed later back then, and the equivalent of a 15-16 year old 1000 years ago was like a 11-12 now. Then when the records show people marrying a 17-20 yr old and describe their attraction to people at those ages, it’s the equivalent in terms normalcy as being into a 13-16 yo today.
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>>219636557
I’d never pay it because you know there’s loads of them that boomers don’t want, but are ashamed to sell
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>>219637373
I'd never pay since you can just find them on google
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>>219637625
so pretty ToT
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>>219637625
It’s about the hunt and owning a piece of controversial history. I nabbed an original swastika flag for $100 from a seller who was clearly embarrassed to be listing it
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>>219629638
Yeah, it was the norm throughout 99.9% of human history. Before Jewish feminism reared its ugly head.
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Infantilizing teenagers is going to leave them dysfunctional.
>the brain isnt fully developed until age 28
They can have independent self guided agency at a certain point. And should so they don't turn into basket cases.

People keep stigmatizing nature’s instincts.
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>>219638297
What do you mean? They're babies that can't do anything sexual.
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>>219632646
actually if you find anyone less than 2 months your age attractive youre a sick pedo fuck
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>>219637938
>kids get molested
>It’s the jews
>kids no longer molested
>its also the jews
We goy are truly just dreidels
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>>219638825
>every sexual relationship with girls under an arbitrary age is le rape and molestation
least brainwashed goy
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>>219628593
Is this makeup or cgi?
Why her face look much better than in this show than in real life like?
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>>219629675
>She was 10 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds, 999 milliseconds, 999 microseconds, 999 nanoseconds, 999 picoseconds, 999 femtoseconds, 999 attoseconds, 999 zeptoseconds, 999 yoctoseconds, 999 rontoseconds, 999.99999999999999 quectoseconds old, you sick freak.
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>>219636108
>like 15 year old king Robb being some mature tactical genius in battle

Yet more proof Asoiaf operates on anime rules. Also see: Darkstar. It's not to be taken seriously.
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>>219634941
I don't think anyone was really thinking of whether other people were aroused or not. It's not really other people's business if it doesn't affect them in any way, we just live in a crazy world.
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>>219629026
Americans nowadays genuinely think 18-22 is actually pedophilia if you’re older than 25
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y'all're so gay
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>>219634371
>Brooke Shields in playboy is the one that always gets me.
playboy is not pornography it's nude modeling. there is nothing sexual about playboy, it's art.
there is nothing illegal about non-sexually explicit nude images.
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>>219635255
>got away with selling nudes of a 10yo
if pictures of naked kids is cp my grandma is one of the biggest pedos on the planet.
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>>219629638
Ugly dudes wouldn't know this but if you're handsome, preteen girls will crush on you all the time
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>>219632646
>It has no other meaning
It means whatever Uncle Sam says, you fucking pedo!
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>>219647946
>>219647989
That defence of it just being nudity at least in western countries has been completely eroded away and is now non-existent (except for old movies like the above because they don't want to appear hypocritical). If your grandma were a man and maybe not quite elderly, she would absolutely be a candidate for cp conviction these days. They even sometimes count clothed "suggestive" images, and of course they count drawn - where they estimate cartoon characters to be underage.
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>>219648578
>If your grandma were a man and maybe not quite elderly, she would absolutely be a candidate for cp conviction these days.
no. the legal standard for what is art and what is pornography is "i'll know it when i see it."
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>>219648578
>They even sometimes count clothed "suggestive" images
Yeah, because a child put in a sexual situation is CSAM weather or not they are clothed.
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>>219648740
um... right, you obviously realize that is a ridiculous standard arbitrarily applied right for all kinds of reasons? Not sure why you said "no" to my post.
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>>219648944
>you obviously realize that is a ridiculous standard arbitrarily applied
if you see a picture of a fully clothed person has some watered down lotion or milk running down their face sucking on a banana and tied to a bed with ropes, is that a sexual image to you?
would you feel comfortable if someone was like hey here's a picture of my 8 year old and that's what you see?
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>>219629638
Just like in real life. The amount of whores getting fucked since EIGHTH GRADE is insane
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>>219649162
All of your examples include obvious attempts to sexualize them by adults. There is nothing sexual about kids naturally. Now I am done with this sordid conversation.
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>>219649612
>There is nothing sexual about kids naturally.
i don't disagree but you're probably sitting there with 500gb of cp on your hard drive crying about people getting arrested and charged for having CSAM
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>>219649678
Man, you guys really do like to push your absurd accusations. Well have fun with that, we all know about your projection.
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TFW I will never have an alcoholic FAS Australian girlfriend
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>>219628593
>why do americans do this
Americans my ass. Americans are decent folks. The ones who do that are jews who try to pass as whites and americans. Let me ask you, who owns Hollywood? The americans or the jews? Because from what I have studied Hollywood is a jewish creation or enterprise. The Oscars and things of that nature were first conceived by jews to reward themselves for the good work that they do to themselves, you know? Mostly of the producers of those shows and the people who pick the actors are jews. Why are you using the americans in your phrase? Americans are the most amazing people in this Earth. You gotta respect all of america. America is awesome.
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>>219628593
Winds of winter when
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>HotD is made in the DEI gay liberal woke timeline
it's so painful bros. Listening to that audiobook was my daily retreat from work. It could have worked. It was never going to be like GoT because it's another thing, but there was kino to be had. Honestly I think we still even got some. I still love Aegon and Aemond even if they made it all retarded. What could have been. What will never be again. Oh well.
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>>219634480
yeah he doesn't have the face for long hair like the aegon and aemond do
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>>219629638
do amerimutts really believe people only have sex at the age of consent + 1 day?
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>>219635883
i would like to stick in her source material if you know what i mean
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>>219659043
all the info about S3 has only proven that they are doubling down on the things that made S2 bad instead of doing things like S1 did.
No wonder the fat boomer chud disowned the show
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>>219628593
She looks like a failed abortion
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>>219628593
>rhaenyra is 12-13 years old in the books when this scene happens
>they raise her age to 17-19?
>cast her so she looks 13 anyway

>why do americans do this

Legally, indicating the character is 12 or 13, and then showing the character in sexual situations, would potentially be illegal in certain countries, such as the UK.
Showing a 12 or 13 year old naked might not be illegal, if the scene is not considered sexual though.

In the USA, casting a 12 or 13 year old and showing that actress would probably be considered illegal, unless the producers/director, can get away with the “art exemption”.
Showing a character that is supposedly 12 or 13 in sexual situations is not illegal, as long as the actress is over the age of 18, or any sexual scenes are filmed using a body double.


Individual laws concerning these issues vary by country, and HBO releases their content around the globe.
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>>219636108
During the middle ages, and earlier, there were literally teenagers in command of troops, usually because the teenager was the child of an aristocrat, or a prince.
Said “child” would likely have had a much better education than many of the individuals he was commanding, meaning technically, that teenager or “child” might have more knowledge of tactics and military strategy than the average soldier, unless that soldier was a military veteran.

Martin is obviously basing his books on the medieval period.
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>>219628593
>Americans
Baldur's Gate 3 did the same shit
>write Lae'zel as a teenager
>she's 22
>Karlach talks about being kidnapped and she's clearly supposed to be a teen then and everyone thinks she's mid 20s
>30 and was kidnapped at 20
>shart
>spoilers but she's also written like a 17 year old retard. the whole point of shart and lae'zel's constant bitching is that they were both written as like 16-17 year olds
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those brooke pics are so hot
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>>219628593
>americans
GRRM, the book author, is the American and the show is filmed in Northern Ireland...
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>>219635552
In the books, teenage Ciri let's a dying man suck on her tits so he can get some one last time before he kicks the bucket lmao
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>>219637938
>>219638998
>Wahh i can't fuck kids anymore, it's da jews fault
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>>219634480
>>219659432
I just know his end duel with Aemond is gonna look mega-goofy, one long-haired faggot jumping on top of the other. Should've gave him a beard and at least shoulder length hair like in this art.
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>>219634371
>Like people must’ve thought being a pedo was quirk chungus back then.
The entirety of Hollywood defending Roman Polanski is proof of that.
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brooke or monke?
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>>219661079
>waaah why do men like youth and beauty instead of my ugly, neglected, attention starved fat ass self that's le heckim problematic raise the aoc to 30 because 1 shitty fucking study validated my retardation all men who date anyone more than 3 years younger than their age is a dangerous predator stop calling me roastie that's heckin misogyny reeeeeee
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>>219635718
first-generation or lightly inbred people tend to have an uncannily "plain" and symmetrical look, whereas you need several repetitive generations of inbreeding for recessive mutations to end up in disfigurement.
30 generations of 3rd and 2nd-cousin marriages will actually look far more inbred than the occational 1st cousin marriage and uncle-niece marriage as long as you have a constant supply of distant gene material to split up the inbreeding line.
tldr;
Importing distant blood into your inbred royal lineage is far more visually beneficial than belonging to a local stagnant township genepool.
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>>219628593
she looks like a stupid monkey
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>>219644827
No, more like their leaders and social elite literally fuck prepubescent kids
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>>219660372
>Showing a character that is supposedly 12 or 13 in sexual situations is not illegal, as long as the actress is over the age of 18, or any sexual scenes are filmed using a body double.
No, that would be illegal. If it's a cartoon, and according to the cartoon the character is 12 and shown sexually, that's illegal in many places (and therefore unacceptable for a HBO show which wants to broadcast as many regions as possible). So definitely a character that is supposed to be 12 or 13 and said to be 12 or 13 and especially if she looks 12 or 13 getting pumped is not going to fly.
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>>219660372
>>219665179
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 has a sex scene with 16 yo and there were no legal problems I am aware of.
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>>219636108
>Maybe part of it is the missing five year gap
Yeah, since he dropped the timeskip you kind of have to accept that children in asoiaf grow up really absurdly fast compared to irl
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>>219665179
That’s according to some of the new pearlclutching legislation, it’s not been tested in court yet. Like in Texas drawing naked Bart Simpson is illegal or something now
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>>219664965
valyria doesn't operate on that policy. they have inbred for aeons and have blood magic to look beautiful. one of the things they encoded in along with dragon riding
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>>219629015
>>219635718
rhaenyra is really beautiful and called the realm's delight. she isn't some australian inbred looking retard
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>>219660944
groomed by a dyke and fingered by an elf too. And the games had the gall to whitewash it.
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>>219666152
She was like 13-14 during that time too.
>ciri crying because she’s not a virgin so the unicorn doesn’t like her anymore
Kek
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>>219665590
Sure?

The pearlclutching crowd is winning. I think it's partly due to how you elect judges in the US, and old people tend to vote, and old people tend to be jealous of young people having sex and the expression of that is in trying to go as hard as possible on anything sexual.
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>>219666775
>I think it's partly due to how you elect judges in the US
Only in some States and not ever at the Federal level.
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>>219666775
It’s not judges, since the pearlclutching is coming from the legislature. It serves as more of a chilling effect or additive charge for plea bargaining and less as something people are seriously in danger of being prosecuted for. Since the Supreme Court rulings are pretty exhaustive on the issue.
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>>219666933
NTA; there's Supreme Court precedent on virtual nudity/sex and virtual age?
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>>219648092
What if it's only preteen girls that crush on me?
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>>219659442
No but it's expected that they only ever sleep with others their own age. Stupid as that is considering through most of human history it was extremely rare for a girl to be married off to someone less than 10 years her senior.
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>>219632385
They were allowed to casually walk about with swords, the sidearms of their day and getting into duels like between Tybalt and Mercutio was normal and expected to defend the honor of ones house.
Sounds like someone who society considers an adult to me.
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>>219664965
The Targaryens have been doing straight up brother-sister incest for several generations by this point in the story.
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>>219628593
Her age in the show and books is the same, She was 15-16 in the first season.
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>>219628593
Will people like this suffocate if they close their mouths? Why the fuck is their mouth constantly open? It makes me crazy. Kristen Stewart does the same shit and it makes her look like a rat. Like, close your fucking mouth.
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>>219670951
its a model thing
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>>219632385
>implying a 13yo shakespearean girl would attend a school
your normalcy bias is insane
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>>219633532
>empiric sience wasn't really a thing so nobody knew outcome for pregnancies is way better if the woman is 18 to twenty-something
Maria Clara Restrepo-Méndez, 2014, "Maternal mortality by age: who is most at risk?"
>On the basis of these data, delaying 100 000 adolescent pregnancies until ages 20–24 years would prevent 70 maternal deaths
>whereas more than 1000 deaths would be prevented if 100 000 pregnancies currently in women aged 40 years or older
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>>219629675
>believing Mushroom lies

peasant scum
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>>219629638
a disturbing amount of teens have sex as early as 12-13, if you're like me you were too busy playing warcraft and reading Dragonlance to notice at the time but it's true
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>>219638358
see prolly called him the N-word
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>>219636508
>Child birth was already fatal like 40% of the time
>average woman had 4-5 kids
math isn't adding up, anon
>While it wouldn’t be unusual to only get your first period when you’re 15, 16. 17 back then
not before industrialization
>Data from skeletal remains suggest that in the Paleolithic woman menarche occurred at an age between 7 and 13 years
>In the classical, as well as in the medieval years...approximately 14 years, with a range from 12 to 15 years.
>A significant retardation of the age at menarche occurred in the beginning of the modern times...menarche to occur at 15-16 years.
>In the 20th century... the age at menarche decreased significantly...occurring at 12-13 years.
t. The Evolution of the Age at Menarche from Prehistorical to Modern Times



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