>>219648631
Anyone wanna bet they'll sell the IP to Disney?

Its a fucking lie every time a new ST series bombs they repeat this line and a year later another shitty series comes out, trekkies are all pedophiles btw.

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Good, fuck Nutrek.

Were any of the Gorn episodes decent

>>219648631
There are rumors that many of the legacy actors called a meeting with Academy’s actors and producers and B-Shat started by ripping the shit out of them. Apparently Kerrice Brooks freaked the fuck out and started crying.

I’m glad it’s dead though. It’s been in pain for so many years.

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>>219648631
They finally killed it?

I haven't given a fuck since the 90s. I liked the original cast movies and TNG the best. DS9 was okay too.

>>219652895
Right. That surely happened.

>So we're going to sit you all down and let some nearly-dead actors come in and give you a talkin' to about fixing up your show they don't like

Fuck off with that.

>>219652895
That would be epic as hell, if true.

>>219648631
Good. Next time don't fill it full of woke shit and maybe someone will actually watch it

tng is the only good one
tos was the prototype
they can never recreate what made tng one of the best shows of all time. it will never happen

>>219653091
No no no that can't be right
TOS is still the best

It's officially done for one big reason, and it's that Kurtzman's 10 year contract ended this year. Funny how all his shows managed to be cancelled just in time for his contract ending.

>>219648631
Hopefully every once-beloved franchise gets to rest in peace soon so we can stop dragging their corpses around and raping them. The last decade has made the 2000s look like weak sauce when it comes to gangraping ever nerd setting like a goat lost in a saudi arabian brothel.

>>219653012
William Shatner is enough of an asshole that I'm willing to believe this could have actually happened.

Okay. Can we continue The Orville now?

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>>219648631

>Sad time for Star Trek fans

HAHAHAHAHA! The death of Kurtzman trek is a time for celebration!

>>219652895
Saw some youtube videos claiming it was Zachary Quinto that soearheaded it and Shat ripped in too. Dont know if I believe it

>>219653832
Fuck no. Fix demanding comedy and all the gay shit last season ruined it

>>219654653
*Fox

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Mike Sussman and Scott Bakula are coming to save us

>>219652895
An unbelievably based fantasy, but a fantasy nonetheless. Unless you can substantiate on that rumor somehow.

>>219648631
They just have to make a standard Trek show with cozy carpets again.

>Ellison kills Kurtzman trek
Perhaps I misjudged the Israelis

>>219648631
Good

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Wow it's almost like appealing to a fringe lunatic audience of liberals is bad for business

>>219655397
Really bugs you apparently.

>>219653012
Something similar happened to the Billy and Mandy creator.
The CEO called the guy to his office then called his show the “mean fart show” and said it ruined the Network.

>>219655413
the only bug here is in your pozzed ass

>>219655397
>Wow it's almost like appealing to a fringe lunatic audience of liberals is bad for business
They were trying to appeal to Mike Stoklasa because he said he wanted everything to be gay. When they made everything gay, Mike didn’t watch it lol

>>219655413
Yeah it's almost as if the chosen target audience it was developed for influenced the finished product. Gee I wonder why that would bug anybody?

>>219655397
I don't like how you can tell it's a black

>>219655448
Huh? lol

>>219655542
You're questioning whether you wonder?

>>219655430
The CEO of the network is in no way similar to a bunch of actors who don't work there.

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>>219648631
>Sadly
I don't know who John Orquiola is, or even if this apparent cunt is even real, but I hope he gets shot out of a cannon into a vat of fluoroantimonic acid.

>>219648631
Somehow this is my fault

>>219648631
>Sadly

>>219655599
I said:
>THE ONLY BUG HERE IS IN YOUR POZZED ASS

>>219655413

Why didn't Blacks and trannies watch Nu-Trek?

>>219656244
Why would they?

>>219656353
Why did they pander towards that demographic?

>>219653825
>William Shatner is enough of an fucking based legend that I'm willing to believe this could have actually happened.
ftfy

>>219656495
Because they figured more people in these demographics would watch them, if they were good enough for anyone at all to watch them. Except they took the "good enough for anyone at all to watch them" part for granted and then didn't accomplish that.

Blacks and trannies won't watch a shitty show just because some of theirs are in it. Why would they?

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>>219648631
>Sadly

>>219656626
You answered your own question.
They wanted to pander to literally everyone, and instead pandered to no one, which is very typical of left leaning garbage.

from STD to SA, nutrek has been most unpleasant

Star Trek is gay and reddit

Strange New Worlds started out so good but then just fell apart this last season.

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Trek made the same mistake as SW did a decade ago, believing that white males would always keep tuning in no matter what, now let's try to get women and minorities to watch too, and both have mostly failed to get the numbers they want.

Not sure why they continued doubling down for so long, all the way through the Acolyte and Starfleet Academy.

>>219655430
>mean fart show
Hateful Fart Cartoon, get it right

>>219656801
I would bet you that towards the top of the chain of producers that have been involved in this, somewhere a retarded woman was listened to, probably by a retarded, horny man.

>>219656244
the real question is why so many middle aged white men did

i saw like 3 episodes of Picard and noped out before the first season was over

it's insane people are still cataloging and caring about anything after that

>>219656801
>Not sure why they continued doubling down for so long
cause their position was ideological, not pragmatic
they were fine with losing money and pissing people off, in fact they bragged about it and rubbed it in all over social media

>>219648631
And something (formerly) of value was lost.

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>>219648631
>Star Trek fans
Star Trek fans weren't watching these modern shows

>>219652895
Things like this don't happen ever

>>219648631
Star Trek's problem is that its worldbuilding never made sense at all and any show needs to work around that or have a very limited scope and avoid any mention of how human society works.

>>219657143
Their society works by being post-scarcity.

>>219657099
>Star Trek fans weren't watching these modern shows
that's literally the only people watching the modern shows. I've never heard a single person who wasn't watching tng or ds9 say anything about any nutrek

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>>219648631
>Sadly

>>219648631
>STD
>STSNW
>STP
>STLD
>???

go woke go broke

Star Trek ended when they canceled Enterprise, and hasn't been seen since.

Better luck next time, anyway. No one believes they wont make any more shows. We should be so lucky.

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>>219657898
the first 2009 jjabrams trek is an okay flick
the third was one was close to being okay but simon pegg went too far with his "dare you enter my magical realm" shit
scotty getting the hot ayy bitch ruined my suspension of disbelief, not to mention the villain's motivation SUCKED fucking ass
miles o'brien, picard, kirk, spock, yar, and even harry kim had worse things happen to them than the villain of beyond and they didn't try to blow up the federation in response. retarded

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>>219656626
Sci-fi has literally always been a thing for traditionally nerdy white men. I don't know who they think they're fooling

Star Trek sucks outside of TNG & DS9 (which are absolutely phenomenal).
The modern stuff is egregiously bad. All of it.

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>>219658060
they're about to assrape the xfiles with no lube too

>>219658079
It will flop even harder. At this point I don't understand why they keep on doing these shit reboots, it obviously losses fucktons of money.

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>Sadly

>>219657955
they're fine for what they are, but they're still not Star Trek.
Star Trek has a vibe, and that vibe is out of shape Shakespearean actors orating at each other on a cheap sitcom set.
The major point of tension in a Star Trek script is often a disagreement or a mystery, as opposed to a mad man doing space 9/11 as everything explodes at once.

>>219658124
it could be funny if they make it entirely about black conspiracies like the cia inventing crack and
>dey putting microchips in our wheaties!
but even that is too hopeful.
this shit won't even be worth a hatewatch

>>219658178
I agree with you, they're not trek. they're more star wars or something
I really like the musical score in 09, and they're visually decent.
If I had to be totally honest 09 is better than nemesis and maybe 1st contact as far as movies go

>>219653832
yeah!
and call it even newer horizons with even more navel gazing!

>>219650070
Gorn are basically xenomorphs who get sealed into nappy time
It is exactly as gay as it sounds

>>219656998
It's nostalgiabait. They went all in with that shit for season three after a mediocre first season and an absolute ass second season. I guess it was the least-bad thing nuTrek thing out of all of them, but that's just because the rest is absolutely ASS.

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>>219648631
Yes, yes, well done, chuds. Well done.
HOWEVER, the 60th Anniversary comic is yet to release.

>>219656998
My dad watches a lot of it. I don't think he even follows the plot half of the time. It's just like noise at this point.
Though even he took one look at a Klingon in a skirt, and turned the other way.

TNG feels like a stage play

>>219658634
So does TOS. What's your point?

>>219656998
unironically low testosterone

>>219658607
same with my dad, I think he was just happy to see the gang together in S3 Picard because it reminded him of the good ol' days. though i have no idea why he put up with the rest up until that part.

>>219655413
>we ruined yet another beloved and profitable franchise and ran it into the ground for no reason after telling anybody that liked it in its original form to fuck off
Gee, I wonder why that would ever annoy anybody? It's a real mystery...

>>219648631
>spend a billion dollars entertaining 20k people
That was nice of them.

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>>219658634

All good television is stage plays put on a VHS.

>>219658079
>>219658124
The only way it could possibly succeed is if they do ghetto shit like finding the chirp in a house or asking the wise old neighborhood crackhead if they've seen the leech man recently.

>>219648631
>sad time for star trek fans
That happened a long time ago. These new shows bombing hard was actually a good thing because it means the tainted legacy is finally ending.

>new star trek

>not for right wing chuds
>not for star trek fans
>not for lore fans
>not for s-f fans

who the fuck was the target audience outside of liberal teenage women?

>>219661442
>who the fuck was the target audience outside of liberal teenage women?
Bluesky users

>>219657166
Noooooooooo! Don't you get it anon, we must ALWAYS have capitalism exactly as it exists right now, because that's what we've always had! Yes that's right, mercantilism was actually capitalism, and so was agrarian feudalism, and even hunting and gathering primates! All capitalism! And we always will have capitalism, because it's human nature! How do I justify that? Why that's easy, by redefining words to mean whatever they need to mean so I can defend Mr Shlomoglobohomostein, because I'm dumb enough to believe they'll let me one of them one day if I shill hard enough!

>>219658634
And? That's a good thing

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>>219648678
Hasn't paramount been looking for a buyer for years now?

>>219660720
>ghetto shit like finding the chirp in a house

Unironically that would be the most Star Trek thing they could do at this point. Send a Starfleet science officer into a dilapidated rowhouse with a tricorder while some random old dude in a tank top explains the subspace anomalies between drags of a space-cig.

Instead they'll spend 8 episodes crying in dim blue lighting while the leech man is a metaphor for generational trauma or whatever.

At least DS9 would've had Quark trying to sell the leech man bootleg warp coils out of the back room.

>>219648757
Star Trek Babies. You're a genius!

>>219662933
But really just a show about the TNG cast as children, except they still run a starship. I'd say "you're welcome! Paramount", since this idea would be a massive improvement on nutrek released so far, but it doesn't include enough diverse or gay characters and is thus impossible for at least ten more years.

>>219650070
the new gorn were fucking stupid, any race that savage and hostile to even each other wouldn't have even been able to cooperate to build all those advanced starships

>>219662933
>>219663155
its called star trek: scouts and it is the best of nutrek

>>219648631
Trek has been over since Enterprise ended in 2005

>>219648631
Star Trek has been dead for a long time. What is over now is the raping of its corpse. Hopefully it can die in peace now.

>>219652895
>Kerrice Brooks freaked the fuck out
Hopefully she kills herself over it. Tired of looking at these ugly apes pushed by the propaganda arms

>>219655413
>Really bugs you apparently.
That's more important than ratings, isn't it?

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>>219648631
If they really want to course correct, they'll make a series called "Star Trek: Alpha" that's about a functioning crew of competent officers joyriding around the Alpha Quadrant and nobody interrupts a red alert to quip about toxic mansplaining.

>>219656998
I know plenty of people who keep watching mcu slop while constantly complaining about how shitty it's become. Watching the new movies is a chore for them but they reluctantly keep doing it.

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>>219656998
They're watching against their own entertainment interests

>>219658124
they hate nerdy white boys so much they don't care how much damage they do to the industry just as long as they can shit on them.

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>>219648631
Based

>>219648631
There is literally two new trek shows in development right now.

>>219664895
Are you talking about legacy or that other discovery spin off they pitched? Both never got picked up

>>219656801
heh, shouldn't Picard be in that airlock too since he is such a big part of how shit Nu-Trek is?

>>219648678
I don't think Disney is interested because they already have Star Wars.
Netflix co-sponsoored STD, and got poor rating, so they are probably not interested.
I could see Apple picking it up and doing something decent with it.

>>219655902
You just had to do nothing, didn't you? I hope you're happy.

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Star Trek will be back soon and will be awesome again.

>>219656640
*mercifully

>>219663684
Enterprise isn't canon. It's a 24th century holodeck tv show owned by Riker.

>>219666035
>Janeway has been in nuTrek (major character in the kiddie cartoon)
>Sisko has been in nuTrek (very, very recently - don't actually know anything but I think it 'resolved' his time travelling with the prophets plot)
>Picard has, obviously, been in nuTrek
I think only Kirk and Archer are pure.

>>219656801
>keep tuning in no matter what
It's embarrassing how long that was actually true, it was only when there was an overwhelming amount of shit content that fans were no longer willing to even hate-watch it.

There was, what, 4 or 5 different shows on simultaneously eventually? Crazy.

>>219667087
Kirk & his brother that get salt vampire'd are regulars on SNW. Unless you mean the actual actor of Shatner, then no. Archer is namedropped but never shows up outside of an image in LD.

>>219648678
They should sell it to 'ritical 'rinker

>>219667226
I watched most of SNW and managed to forget Kirk is in that. I think it's because he doesn't seem like Kirk.
But yeah I just meant with the OG actors, I was surprised that Avery Books came back for that, I thought he grew to hate Star Trek. Heck I don't think he'd done much acting at all in decades.

>>219667300
Brooks is famously crazy, so I'm guessing they offered a nice amount of cash and caught him on a good day of crazy. That, or Jake's actor told him to do it, the guy loves him like an actual son apparently.

>>219667300
>>219667933
Avery Brooks did not come back for nutrek. They edited clips of his voice together.

>>219667933
I believe it was the latter, because Jake was the one that showed up in the episode.

>>219663684
Trek's been fucked since Enterprise started. Regardless of what you think of the show (especially compared to what we have now), a precedent was set the moment they decided to make a prequel which was somewhat at odds with the 60s show that supposedly came after it. From that point on, it's all over, a can of worms had been opened that cannot be resealed. It's been a near-three decade long identity crisis ever since. Prequel after prequel, recasting after recasting, the writers' pet nonsense inserted into the canon, people putting their own stamp on things that aren't theirs to be toyed with... It only gets messier and messier and there's no going back from it, not least because no one wants to admit that any of it was a mistake or piss off the fans who somehow liked that shit.

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>>219653925
/thread

>>219648631
Don't worry I'm sure Kurtzman is working on another dozen star trek shows (that nobody will watch).

>>219668990
Trash take. Enterprise felt like Trek, sure it had fallen off but that was it. 2009, the precursor to Kurtzma, saw a slide that ended in the Abyss(Kurtzman Trek).

>>219652895
It’s the opposite. Legacy actors will step in and defend the newbies from online criticism. The Star Trek family is closer to a mafia in practice.

fucking good, let it die

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Why is it so hard for them to make a decent star trek show? What's even more interesting TNGs budget was a 10th of Strange new worlds

>>219662055
Painfully, painfully accurate.

>>219669633
TNG was based around the five act structure, which streaming has abandoned. They introduce a conflict or mystery before the opening credits, and then solve it by the end. That way you kept watching through the commercials. Streaming shows are closer to a 10 part movie. Even then, they end on a cliffhanger that takes years to resolve.

>>219669633
they don't want to make a decent star trek show, they want to push their agenda.

>>219669633
Because Hollywood is over run by clueless Tumblr assholes and idiots, the kind of retards who'd make Reddit look like Gene Roddenberry meets George Lucas meets JMS in their prime at their most creative and innovative.

>>219669812
They really need to go back to the episodic style.

>>219669566
>Enterprise felt like Trek
I told you to disregard your feelings for the show itself, anon. It still opened up the door for all the trash that came after it.

who cares at?
its negative energy that simultaneously only exist off of each other
>make incredibly shit TV show
>shithead youtube reviewers make millions off poking fun at it

>>219669915
They fired the straight white men who knew how. Even worse before every show is even made they insist its filled with the message.
Hollywood is dead. Let fans make what they will using A.I. Gossip Goblin on YouTube has shown us the way.

>>219670031
>Let fans make what they will using A.I.
The AI is tainted with the trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7veEDsPERF8

my guess is Kurtzman initially lied, and gave a very good pitch for reviving the star trek universe--appeal to women and minorities, marginalized groups, but retain the traditional demographics as well, and in 2013 that sounded like music to owners ears. It should have sounded too good to be true, but they gave him his epic ten year contract anyway. They likely thought this was their ticket to dominate streaming profitability. But Kurtzman was a liar--he never intended to retain the traditional demographic. He's just a hack faggot who can be charismatic if money depends on it. once he got his money and contract, he did what was always his plan--fuck the traditional viewers and try to push his faggotry on society using big corporate money. Him and all his friends view their mission as a kind of social Robinhood project, and what better way than to destroy a beloved military/exploration franchise that appealed mainly to white men? He always knew it was a suicide mission and that his contact wouldn't be renewed. All the cope online is just his NPC followers not realizing what actually happened.

>>219670031
>muh straight white men
I don't get why you polcel weirdos have any attachment to star trek, outside of maybe TOS. star trek has always been a hyper-liberal, socially progressive, communist-adjacent multi-culture utopian fantasy. nothing about star trek intersects with your world view apart from a few sparing shartner episodes

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>>219670130
Text brought it about, Mein Nay Saying Card carrying member of Hollywood!!! Text in a prompt brought it about!!! Cry MOAR!!!

Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of War!!!!

>>219670031
Bro shut the fuck up, I want to have a serious discussion about star trek. Fuck off back to /pol/

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>>219648631
Sometimes death can be a relief

>>219670423
Bull Shit!

I can see the difference, You lying Mongolian dingle berry eating Cretin, I can see their liberalism compared to the Aids pus ridden fecal rot that was Kurtzman Trek! Try Again, you poop eater you!

I think you're A.I., and by the way, Beep Boop!!

>>219670379
Kurtzman is great at the business side of showrunning. But terrible at the creative side. He always gets shows done on time and within budget. That’s why they kept him around so long. And once his Star Trek contract ends, they’ll give him a WB property to do the exact same thing with the exact same results.

>>219670379
Kurtzman has a history of working on sci-fi and fantasy shows, so they got him to work on the reboot movies and after the first one was a success, they gave him creative control over the franchise. The idea was always there that Star Trek needed to reach a wider audience. He didn't just appear out of nowhere.

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>>219670482
DEATH TO HOLLYWOOD!!!!
Death to Kurtzman Trek!!!

>>219656801
The sad part is, even if it had no woke shit it still wouldn't have been good. Hollywood is nowhere near as competent as in the 90s.

>>219668990
>a precedent was set the moment they decided to make a prequel which was somewhat at odds with the 60s show that supposedly came after it
Weird because I think Enterprise is the closest to TOS that's ever been made. Three main characters and a lot more shooting from the hip compared to the 24th century shows which were about professionals working with a code that'd basically been figured out generations ago

I think prequels were obvious post 1999 just because of the loss of the monoculture that's kind of wrecked everything for the franchise model. Everyone knows who Kirk and Spock are. Nobody but Trekkies knows who Kathryn Janeway or Benjamin Sisko is. I think there's been one (1) original property movie franchise in the top 20 biggest grossers this last decade, and that's James Cameron. At least "this leads up to Kirk and Spock!" has a hook that the general audience might be interested in.

I think the problem with Nu Trek was not that it's prequels, just that it was a generic, really badly-written post-9/11 grimdark scifi show using Star Trek branding. It sucked in the 32nd century, it would've sucked as an original IP

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>>219663230
>think of the stupidest thing
>no way it's real
>it's real.

you guys are excited that the kurtzmen era is dead but when ellison buys paramount, hes turning star trek into a pro-israeli psyop where the federation is a thinly veiled jewish ethnostate thats forced to genocide the bajorans

What ever happened to that shout about the cadets who got lost in space or whatever, I think it was animated. Janeway was in it.

>>219671611
>the federation is a thinly veiled jewish ethnostate thats forced to genocide the bajorans
the bajoran terrorists are a threat to federation culture and those bajoran children needed to be photon torpedoed for our safety. also, there were bajoran terror cells hiding underneath those schools

>>219671617
Aside from the fact it ended, no one can tell you anything about it because no one watched it

>>219656801
I love this pic related because it’s Insaneway who is pushing the button. My only criticism is it should be obvious they are in an airlock cargo bay or whatever and that her pushing the button means they are going out into space.

>>219671617
if you mean prodigy, i tried to watch it thrice and never got to the third episode. idk if it was me but i couldnt get through it.

>>219648631
This will go down as the worst case of Hollywood nepotism in history. That one man could be in charge of a franchise for so long and get so many branching series greenlighted at the same time. Meanwhile J. Michael Straczynski had to claw his way just to get through 4 seasons just to deliver his beloved sci-fi show.

>>219648678
Why? They have the Orville.
>>219655298
the only silver lining to that buyout.
>>219656681
TNG could pander to everyone, but in a thoughtful, diplomatic way. NuTrek was browbeating Black Lives Matter slogans.

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>>219671611
>>219671779
But we had that with DS9. Gul Dukat really did nothing wrong.
They even gave a Muslim-sounding name to the Jem'Hadar, aka the fanatic soldiers of the evil expansionist theocracy from a far-away place that can't be trusted or negotiated with. One of the most celebrated episodes is when our heroes use deception, blackmail, and an eventual false-flag attack to trick an uninvolved power into fighting their war for them.

>>219658634
and TOS. I think it was a relic of studios being confined to one set with a fixed camera. Also a relic of writers who knew TV was only good for short story formats. Turning Trek into Wars was never going to work for its format.
>>219669812
To me SG-1 picked up where trek left off, though with an indiana jones flair

>>219672672
>TNG could pander to everyone, but in a thoughtful, diplomatic way. NuTrek was browbeating Black Lives Matter slogans.
TNG also benefitted from 26 episode seasons that covered dozens of genres. The average TNG season would have a diplomacy episode, followed by a mystery, followed by a horror episode, followed by a love story. And if you didn't like one episode, there were hundreds more that you would like. That's how you appeal to everyone.

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>>219652895
No, the bean counters in finance looked at the 100 million dollar budget then at the 40k average viewership and said "So, why do literal funko pop licking chuds on youtube get 10x this viewership on their $30 videos?" at which point the women just broke down in tears because they are retarded women that dont know anything at all about writing or media production

>>219674142
that and AI literally making the same quality visuals and scripts was the death knell for this series.

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>>219648631
>its a sad time for StarTrek fans

Yeah. Sad that its gone on this long.

>>219664280

Oh momma, young Janeway yes please

>>219674142
This basically, same thing that killed Enterprise but 1000x times worse
Yeah, at least Berman had the argument of future syndication revenue when he was being asked "why are we spending millions an episode for the same ratings as a $150k reality show"
Imagine trying to justify incinerating a summer blockbuster's budget per season and you can't get 250k views for the pilot, for free, on Youtube with a potential audience of billions

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>>219648631
fucking finally. the current writers and staff have no idea what star trek even is and have been fighting against "the angry nerd men" since the very first episode, even admitting they wrote in plot points they thought the internet would hate.

its time to shelve it for 5 years and come back fresh with a complete reboot or new series away from the originals

>>219648631
Yesssss. Trannys, fags and irritating POCs don't deserve Star Trek no matter how hard (((they))) try to force it. We can see whats going on here and we'll always have TOS, TNG and DS9 - kill the franchise and wait for the over-correction to fix the problem.

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>>219653012
>Right. That surely happened.
https://youtu.be/L5qKU2ocM6A?si=Kv7H0NCsZP5LAAoz

>>219678082
>even admitting they wrote in plot points they thought the internet would hate.
I figured it was the core of their social media strategy, to put in stuff that's deliberately wrong that would piss Trekkies off, who would then rage about it on the internet, thus generating free buzz. Then normies would see a bunch of discourse going on about the new Star Trek show, not understand why the nerds were so mad ("So they're mad someone got a word wrong in an old Picard speech? So they're mad that one of the made-up aliens is a woman but the made-up aliens are supposed to be all male?") and give the show a watch

>>219658124
cultural vandalism

>>219656801
>keep tuning in no matter what
And they were right. These shows shouldn't have lasted a season. Meanwhile all their pandering to crippled bisexual trans lesbians of colour netted them how many new viewers? Judging by the last most fucked of the series, not many.

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>>219678363
i think its called like controlled outrage but yeah, when they know a show will be divisive and create a bunch of problems they do like you just said and create their own outrage to lead people away from the actual issue

>>219670612
>within budget
It helps when the budget is insanely bloated. Section 31 cost between $100-$150 million, SNW cost at least $7-10 million an episode, SFA cost something like $150 million a season…

>>219662606
He's talking about the new X files

Is this /trek/

>>219655448
roasted that pig

>>219678363
I'm sure that was the plan but the secret they don't know is that outrage watching isn't real

>>219655448
damn I didn't know I was browsing /ck/

>>219652895
Shut up incel

>>219656801
Millennial women run media now and they'll keep trying until people like it.

>>219685181
>>219678669
I mean I think knew nerds would not watch the show, but by pissing them off by deliberately getting key deep cut Trek trivia wrong, angry nerds would go bitch on social media
Normies would not understand or care what the bitching was about, but the bitching would be making the name of the show trend, and thus they might get curious normies, ie
>there's a female Jem'Hadar
>nerds bitch on social media that Starfleet Academy has a female Jem'Hadar
>normie sees Starfleet Academy trending, clicks
>sees nerds bitching about a female character
>decides nerds are retards bitching about nothing
>decides to give show a watch
or
>Picardo fucks up Picard speech
>nerds bitch on social media that Picardo fucked up Picard's speech
>normie sees Starfleet Academy trending, clicks
>sees nerds bitching about a speech from an older Star Trek show but missing a word
>decides nerds are retards bitching about nothing
>decides to give show a watch

In these cases, deliberately introducing things to piss off nerds generates free social buzz for your actual target audience (normies) to see, while also showing your target audience that the apparent complaints about the show is nonsensical nerd nitpick bullshit that nobody but a nerd could ever give a shit about. I think that's what their plan was. Maybe if the show wasn't such utter dogshit and aimed at a nonexistent audience it might've worked

>>219666293
>I don't think Disney is interested because they already have Star Wars.
and pass up a sw x st crossover? please

>>219685647
>sees nerds bitching about a speech from an older Star Trek show but missing a word
It was more than one word, and beyond just fucking up the quote, it rendered the whole sentence gibberish. Where is the quality control? I don't think anyone would see the complaints about that and say "pfft, nerds"

>>219685647
That sounds like a lot of work. I wonder if they considered just making a good show instead?

>>219688799
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>219688665
>It was more than one word, and beyond just fucking up the quote, it rendered the whole sentence gibberish. Where is the quality control? I don't think anyone would see the complaints about that and say "pfft, nerds"
Now imagine you didn't know or even slightly care about a speech the captain gave on one episode of a Star Trek show 32 years ago and you saw a bunch of nerds ranting that they'd missed a word in it. Would you care, or would you assume that it's nerds bitching about meaningless shit like they always do? Now you're aware of the show and aware that apparently the only complaints about it are the stupidest little tiny nerd nitpicks.I think this was their plan

>>219688799
>That sounds like a lot of work. I wonder if they considered just making a good show instead?
Horrifyingly they must've thought they had
It's just the stuff they did was so specific, like deleting a word from a Picard speech from a very forgettable episode of TNG - how do you do that? Or if you're making your fat negress girlboss alien character, why would you pick a Jem'Hadar? Anyone bitching about that sounds like a trivia obsessed Trekkie, because they then have to explain that the imaginary alien is from a spinoff from 30 years ago that are grown in vats and all male and blah blah blah they sound insane to anyone who didn't watch DS9, aka the Modern Audience.
But the complaining makes the show trend more than if nobody complained

>>219689240
Ferengi ass post

>>219689240
I think you're giving them way more credit then they deserve. The convoluted scheme you're proposing would require some level of foresight or planning. These shows where written by women and fags with a collective iq of 12

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>>219672672
SCIENCE, FUCK YEAH
and that's the POWER of MATH

>>219655486
>Mike ruins Star wars
>Mike ruins Star trek
He's too strong.

>>219689240
The problem with your theory is any normie male will take one look at SFA and label it effeminate and gay. They're far less accepting of that stuff than nerds. So that's your biggest potential audience gone right off the bat. That leaves normie women. Half the population. Still sounds good, right? Well no because how many of those are willing to give Sci-Fi and Star Trek in particular a shot compared to normie men? It's a very small number I assure you. It never would have worked even with "good" Trek. Not now not ever.

>>219689452
>The convoluted scheme you're proposing would require some level of foresight or planning
Yeah, from the social media marketer. The writer's room doesn't come up with marketing strategy
It's just nobody except the most hardcore of Trekkies even remembers The Drumhead. A speech from it doesn't get into the new show by accident. Someone there remembered that episode but when they Ctrl-C'd that speech they accidentally deleted a word so the speech is gibberish, and nobody at any point noticed?
Same with the Jem'Hadar, nobody but people who watched DS9 from S3 on have ever heard of them. Someone chose that alien to be in their show, which means they would've known they're all male. It's the one Trek species where having a female one is impossible.
I swear every episode had just one thing like that in there, something that you actually need pretty deep knowledge of canon to even be aware existed, and then made wrong. That isn't an accident.

>>219689792
>any normie male will take one look at SFA and label it effeminate and gay.
SFA was obviously meant to be a CW teen drama in Trek, aka they were aiming it at 80% female zoomers.

>>219689884
>they would've known they're all male. It's the one Trek species where having a female one is impossible.

Shes only half jemhadar, chud. A jem hadar fell in love with a klingon woman, and they had a child. Also this happens like 1000 years after DS9

>>219689240
>Now imagine you didn't know or even slightly care about a speech the captain gave on one episode of a Star Trek show 32 years ago and you saw a bunch of nerds ranting
The nerd rants would inform me of the issue though, it's not like I'd read their complaints and my brain shorts out and dismissively summarises the words I've read for me

>>219648631
>starfleet academy
has there ever been a more disastrous show?

I'm glad Patrick Stewart isn't alive to see what Star Trek has become.

>>219690050
I don't know if it counts as a show but Section 31 is unironically worse

>>219658079
Dude really need to ditch the mustache.

>>219689792
>effeminate and gay
like having a captain named jean-luc picard?

Could chuds have saved Trek?

>>219648631
If your own franchise is getting out-Trekked by a Seth MacFarlane comedy you deserve to die.

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>>219648631
Don't worry, the moment a producer sees a white man enjoying a star trek product (made before the 2000s, of course) a new propaganda series will be confirmed on the spot.

>>219653091
>they can never recreate what made tng one of the best shows of all time. it will never happen
Well we know it's not lack of diversity since TNG had that in spades.

>>219666293
Toei should buy Star Trek
If we can't get quality toei will at least put out quantity

>>219648631
WW3 is so close... more than ever we need inspiration #blm #pride #abortwhitebabies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYZ4IoyztIw

>>219690044
>The nerd rants would inform me of the issue though
But the issue is some wrong bit of nerd trivia, that doesn't actually affect anything about the story or anything a normie zoomette, aka their target audience, would care about
That's what makes it smart marketing, you make loud nerds complain about things that the actual target won't see as a problem, so it's free impressions. Too bad the product's such awful dogshit and the target market is never going to watch anything Star Trek

>>219690696
>But the issue is some wrong bit of nerd trivia, that doesn't actually affect anything
>loud nerds complain about things that the actual target won't see as a problem
How retarded are you? The issue isn't just the quote being butchered, it's that it became nonsense, there's no argument that it can make sense or be a passable error. Braindead normies watching while looking at their phone it in a vacuum might not notice how dumb it is but anyone reading complaints about it will, there's no getting around it making no sense and the fact it slipped though to the final product is really damning. No one would see that and say "I've gotta watch that show!"

>>219690696
This is cope

>>219686158
>and pass up a sw x st crossover? please
not worth shelling out the money for something that'll only be used in some one-off non-canonical "What If" special

Nerdrotic has been calling this shit out for years and the most miserable people called him a grifter when he's been 100% about everything. Literally fucking everything.

>>219692165
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2018!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2019!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2020!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2021!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2022!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2023!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2024!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2025!
>Inside sources say that Star Trek is going to be canceled in 2026!
Finally being right after a decade doesn't magically absolve him of being a grifter every year prior to that.

>>219692165
>he's been 100% about everything. Literally fucking everything.
Until Disney announces a remake of the Original Trilogy he's not 100% right about everything, I don't know why he's so adamant they would do something so clearly beyond the pale

>>219666035
TNG Picard should be outside, JL Picard should be inside. They're like Mario and Wario.

>>219657016
>cause their position was ideological, not pragmatic
>they were fine with losing money and pissing people off, in fact they bragged about it and rubbed it in all over social media
Until the money ran out. Then they panicked. Thats the thing with ideology. It works fine until money stops coming in.

>>219692455
Why do you lie for no reason

>>219690368
>Japanese Star Trek replaces Super Sentai / Project RED
Oh fuck yeah! Gavan Infinity is halfway there already.

>>219692622
Why does he? Oh, right, he lies for money.

>>219692541
It doesn't matter, they don't stop being ideological just cause they failed. Everything will remain gay and brown as long as people that preach the gay brown religion remain in positions of power.

>>219655413
and thats why media was invented right? To dunk on these chuds!

>>219691408
>there's no getting around it making no sense and the fact it slipped though to the final product is really damning
It makes perfect sense if the idea is to get nerds raging about some apparent minor detail being wrong
>No one would see that and say "I've gotta watch that show!"
The nerds raging causes the show to trend. Social platforms don't do sentiment analysis yet, they just see that something is being posted lots and boost it. People would not see the show mentioned at all without the nerds raging.
You get the nerds raging, that boosts impressions. Someone gets curious and clicks on the topic, sees nerds raging about shit nobody but nerds could care about. They see nerds bitching about stupid miniscule trivia. This gets a new person into the Awareness-Consideration stages of the consumer journey who otherwise wouldn't be, aka a marketing win

>>219692670
Is that why he was objectively right about SA getting canned a day before it's official announcement when no one else was saying it? He was on panel at Megacon and not one person had any clue. Everyone knew the show was going to be canned but assumed they would wait until after the second season dropped. You cannot deny this.

>>219692726
Your contrived rage-trend-based marketing would at least make some sense if you weren't so fixated on this weird notion that normies will see nerds complain and reflexively think it must be good out of some sort of anti-nerd contrarianism. Like, everything you're saying here:
>The nerds raging causes the show to trend. Social platforms don't do sentiment analysis yet, they just see that something is being posted lots and boost it. People would not see the show mentioned at all without the nerds raging.
>You get the nerds raging, that boosts impressions. Someone gets curious and clicks on the topic
everything up to that point makes sense to me if the result is "they click the trend, they see positive posts unrelated to the rage"... (which is frankly how I find twitter trends work, rarely do I click on a trending topic and feel satisfied that I've been shown the reason why it's trending...)
But instead your argument is entirely dependent on people being exposed to the worst of the show by people complaining/laughing about it, and magically deciding it's worth watching... it's not exactly the most airtight marketing tactic

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>>219664351
Then Blackrock lost billions of dollars and backpedaled hard.

>>219693400
>weird notion that normies will see nerds complain and reflexively think it must be good out of some sort of anti-nerd contrarianism.
I have already explained this in the terms I'd use with a moderately bright 3rd-grader, idk if I can help you man
> exposed to the worst of the show by people complaining/laughing about it,
the thing is that nerds bitching about trivial details is what nerds are known for. For normies they are a zero significance event. Nobody cares about nerds bitching about how a word's missing from a boring speech made 40 years ago, or that a made-up alien can't be a woman in the made-up show. Nobody will be turned off by nerds bitching about minutiae from decades-old science fiction shows.
However, nerds bitching about the show causes the show to trend organically where it otherwise wouldn't, where normies, who will find nerd bitching to be completely irrelevant, will see that it exists. If a marketer can get one person into the awareness-consideration part for free, you have done 80% of the hard work of promotion for an mROI of infinity.

>>219653832
Ew, no. Tranny show.

>>219693713
>For normies they are a zero significance event
>Nobody cares about nerds bitching >Nobody will be turned off by nerds bitching
>normies, who will find nerd bitching to be completely irrelevant, will see that it exists.
But where is the part where anything about the show is appealing to them, just sheer exposure regardless of opinion isn't good marketing if nothing about it grabs anyone, look at fucking Concord, everyone was talking about it, no one liked it, no one played it, it didn't last a month

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>>219648631
>Star Trek: Strange New Worlds seasons 4 and 5, totaling 16 episodes
Am I reading this wrong? 2 seasons 16 episodes total?

>>219693671
Blackrock has infinite money, they are not harmed at all by losing a measly few billion dollars. The real harm done to them is tarnishing their reputation in the investment community. Previously, Blackrock was a prestigious firm that other investment firms followed almost unquestioningly. If Blackrock invested, everybody took note and many followed suit. It was assumed that anywhere Blackrock put their money was a safe bet. Anything Blackrock backed had to be a good return, else they wouldn't do it.

But DEI and woke shit losing billions made a lot of investors question Blackrock. Their good name is pretty much gone now, and that is bad news for finding new talent for the firm. If word in the community is that Blackrock don't know how to invest, and are purely pushing an agenda, people actually interested in making money are going to avoid them.

Larry Fink is fine and will always be fine, because he has infinite money. But if you're not Larry Fink, why would you want to work for Blackrock if your business is throwing away billions of dollars and making your clients hate you?

>>219656865
Fartoon

>>219657143
>worldbuilding
Audiences don’t care about that shit.

>>219669218
What crimes did Sneed commit ?

>>219694376
He's a capitalist

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We need Prodigy season 3

>>219694446
Selling feed and seeds to farmers isn’t a crime

>>219648631
SNW wasn't so bad unless something went really wrong on season 2 onwards

>>219694149
Paramount higher ups told them they were getting cancelled and they'd be allowed to make one 10 episode season and a 2 hour movie. The SNW claimed they could do 6 regular episodes for the same budget as the movie and were told "ugh, whatever"

>>219694124
>But where is the part where anything about the show is appealing to them
Nothing, man, it was an absolutely dogshit show without a single redeeming quality, created and written by absolute morons for an audience that clearly didn't exist, which is why they couldn't get 250k views for free with the pilot on YouTube.
That's just not Paramount+ marketing's fault, their job's to try to get eyeballs on what the production company produces and I can see them making creative suggestions to get buzz for free

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I don't understand how you can fuck up a Star Trek plot. All the setpieces are there. You can use so many interesting characters and races, so much inspiration just from watching anyone's top 10 list of best TNG episodes or something.
This is what you get when you hire a director who admitted to never having seen the show and turning it into a generic good v. bad space battle action flick.

DING DONG
THE WITCH IS DEAD

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I still really like the '09 one
This and Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes were the peak of cinema for me an the lads in sixth grade
Into Darkness was sort of bland and Beyond felt like a Marvel movie, didn't see any of the shows since then either except maybe an episode or two of SNW my dad got me to check out, I don't remember anything except Nurse Chappell being pretty
Guess I'm what you'd call a middle of the road normal ass bloke

>>219658178
>The major point of tension in a Star Trek script is often a disagreement or a mystery
I think at the end of the day Star Trek used to be pretty optimistic even though it was made during the cold war. The nu-trek is self-flagellating and totally negative and not uplifting. That's the major difference between media made then and now imo.

>>219696229
>I still really like the '09 one
>Guess I'm what you'd call a middle of the road normal ass bloke
No I'd call that a retard with objectively bad taste.

>>219696461
Roddenberry was super strict about wanting the Federation to always be shown in a positive way and only made room for the leadership to be misguided while the TNG crew proves them wrong, but his level of optimism he had slowly got more and more eroded after his death. People think that nuTrek was just something that appeared out of nowhere, but it has its roots in the classic era. Like the Dominion War was all about testing the limits of the Federation's ethics, but people took stuff like Section 31 and went "Ooooh, the Federation has a super secret espionage stuff that's easily corruptible! See, they're not perfect!"

>>219648631
is a body survived by its cancer?

>>219696618
Trek '09 is one of those movies like POTC 2 where you can stop any random generic sex-haver and their opinion will be oh yeah I haven't thought about it in a while but it was great
go to a social event once in a while and you'll see

>>219667087
They didn't resolve the Sisco cliffhanger as the makers of Academy were EXPLICITLY banned from giving confirmation about if Sisco ever left the wormhole after Avery Brooks refused to come back for the episode; opting instead to license a spoken word album except he did as a vague message

>>219696461
That's deconstructive Marxism for ya.

Alright, say a new major company buy the brand and put YOU in charge of relaunching the franchise, no question asked. You can keep as much of the old shows and canon as you want, or just wipe the slate clean with a new timeline.
What would you do?
If it was me, I'd probably go back to basic and do a direct continuation of Enterprise that's actually all about the founding of the Federation, getting new member planets, the first war against the Klingons, and maybe some Romulan meddling.

>>219696810
People always talk about Section 31 but they never talk about The Federation's Time Police ensuring the "correct timeline".

>>219694765
>We need Prodigy season 3
No. Stop making excuses for mediocre Star Trek. We don't need a Star Trek kids show. We just need one EXCELLENT Star Trek show.

Don't you know that the original Star Trek inspired millions of children to study engineering because they saw Scotty working on the Enterprise Many wrote about Scotty inspiring them in their college exam essays.

You don't need to cater specifically to kids. Just make a good show.. The rest will follow.

>>219696229
2009 was good because it was basically the first Star Trek movie to have a massive big budget for special effects. Previous Star Trek films have very limited budgets and couldn't create those CGI effects. It was too expensive.

The TNG movies were a bit bland and didn't really do enough to add new characters to the cast. Every new cast member was killed in the movies.

>>219655397
>we should appeal to a small demographic of people
>without disposable income (it's all spent on coffee, funkopops, candy crush, magic crystals, dildos and rent)
>that is the same demographic EVERYONE ELSE is appealing to
Given that the trekkie audience is so well defined, someone who has never seen the show can describe their smell, you would think they'd want to focus on the only people who had ever made trek profitable.
Or did those people actually change and the trekkies of yesterday really are the blacked misandrist anti-merit trannies of today?

>>219698902
>EXCELLENT
The problem is that while Star Trek fans and Hollywood producers both want this, their vision of excellent is completely at odds.
Hollywood wants GAME OF THRONES: Star Trek and all the ratings/clout/mass appeal that came with that show, while fans want TNG 2.0, boring but smartly written with sex/gore/swearing shoved off to the side. And then you have shitty millennial writers that for some reason want MASS EFFECT: TNG Edition, 2X SJW PROGRESSIVE MULTIPLIER working under Hollywood's direction which gave us Nu Trek.
Only way Trek can go forward successfully is if Hollywood gives up on the idea of making it their main load bearing pillar for some shitty steaming service and it just needs to be a side niche appeal thing like Orville.

Star Trek could do without the foam rubber glued all over actors' faces
The Original Series' alien makeup usually amounted to
>paint a bitch green
Which is cute and aesthetically pleasing. Paint a guy blue put some antennae on him - still tasteful and understated. Doesn't have that gross look that sets of alarm bells in normies' heads THIS IS FOR NERDS DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THIS
Original series is the best Trek

>>219695818
>That's just not Paramount+ marketing's fault, their job's to try to get eyeballs on what the production company produces and I can see them making creative suggestions to get buzz for free
I see...
>Creative Suggestion 1:
>make a good show
>viewers talk positively about the show
>people see them talking positively about the show
>they decide to watch it
>boost in viewer numbers!
Very nice, now let's see Anon's marketing strategy
>Creative Suggestion 2:
>intentionally make a bad show so the core audience of nerds rage over it
>people see nerds raging over it
>?????
>boost in viewer numbers!
hmm, I dunno, I still think one of these plans has a conspicuous hole in it

>>219699422
Star Trek was never a massive budget budget franchise. Its "bread and butter" was always medium budget TV shows. Affordable episodes that focused on character drama and morality stories. Sure it wasn't flashy, but the fanbase stayed consistent for decades and slowly grew with time.

It's extremely difficult to make Star Trek into a big budget movie franchise or some sort of high end cable TV show like Game of Thrones. Why? Because very few Trek stories require such a big budget.

Sure occasionally thinfs like Trek 2009 are fun to watch. Lots of explosions and pew pew. But it's exhausting to watch continously. You can only threaten to blow up Stars or blow up solar systems so many times before it loses its sense of danger to the audience. That's why Into Darkness and Beyond failed. They needed to go back to TV and develop the Kelvin crew more. Give the audience a reason to care with character development episodes and smaller scale stories. It can't always be high stakes danger 100% of the time.

>>219653825
>>219652895
>>219654626
Shatner has always said he has never watched a single episode of Star Trek, even the ones he starred in, so I very much doubt this.

>>219704546
If he never watched an episode why did he get so butthurt about the death of Kirk that he put out like 6 novels trying to retcon it.

>>219704582
Kirk died in a movie, and Shatner played Kirk, what does that have to do with watching the TV show? And I doubt he was butthurt about it happening, seeing as he agreed to do it.

>>219648631
No one cares.

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>>219648631
>sad time for Star Trek fans
Best news in couple decades.

>>219658124
the purity spiral cannot reverse itself and constantly requires new domains to conquer, thats why

>>219661484
>Bluesky users
Does anyone use bluesky?

>>219706702
Yes, me.

>>219706702
its where lefty twitter ran to after elon bought it. its a great example of how small and weakminded the extreme left really is.

>>219652895
And then Data began to laugh.

>>219648631
YES.

>>219648631
>nu-trek era is over
good

Kurtzman is a cancerous hack.

>>219654712
well, i've got faith... OF THE HEART

>>219652895
>Kerrice Brooks
her career is already over.

I have never seen Star Trek but im looking for a scifi series to binge. Should i start with the original or jump straight to TNG? I know theres more but the general concensus seems to be TNG is vastly superior

>>219658178
excellent post

>>219658079
>Episode 3: The chirping in the hall

>>219652895
and then all the true blue patriot trekkies stood up and clapped at this epic moment in gaming

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>jews write sci-fi subversively
>shit becomes a nerd classic for decades to come
>jews write sci-fi without even trying to cover up how much they hate the goyim
>shit bombs repeatedly
If only the internet still didn't exist like in the 90s and early 2000s, huh?

>>219704546
thats just a lie actors tell so fans stop asking questions about narrative and character motivation. i dont reallly blame them. i wouldnt want to deal with it all the time either and theres no way to do it some of the time.

>>219655430
Iirc the guy wasn't the CEO at the time, just some mid level network stooge, but is now currently the CEO

>>219653091
tng is "better" mostly because of bigger production values and they've previously tested which stories worked better.

tng had a big budget for everything from sets to special effects, which tos didn't have and it was a proof of concept, it was basically an indie show budgets wise. plus tos had to work on tiny B&W tvs, which made them have that ridiculous color scheme
the tos movies are great when given bigger budgets, and the actors are ultra charismatic

>>219709176
tos was very expensive. its what made it groundbreaking and also why it was cancelled. didnt make enough money to justify the budget. its also why tng ds9 voy and ent were cancelled instead of turned into a perma-series like law and order.

>>219656998
picard S3 was great tho, had very little similarities to the rest of the shows or even picard other seasons

>>219699285
>their smell
Dirty socks and Doritos

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>>219686158
finally

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>never cared to watch any star trek series
>watched the two first lens flare movies when i was young
>saw images of how the new super pozzed shows came and went
impressive how both star wars and star trek have been ruined
almost like there is a plot to destroy western culture haha

>>219653091
TOS's first season is my favorite season of Star Trek period, so no. DS9 and even Voyager also have some great stuff.

>>219709306
it was shit

>>219709283
>its also why tng ds9 voy [...] were cancelled
They weren't cancelled, they came to natural ends. By the time Voyager ended, seven seasons was established as the norm. Then Enterprise WAS cancelled at only four seasons.

>>219648631

Finally. Strange New worlds is the only one of those that´s watchable. Discovery was utter shit after season 1 (which was only barely watchable because of Jason Isaacs anyways. And even then it required some effort)

>>219709306
Season three of Picard is passable, you might call it mediocre, mediocrity just seems like masterpiece when it is surrounded with trash that is rest of Kurtzman Trek.

no more woketrek, ww3 soon

>>219655486
This is unironically true. That faggot has been calling for more fagslop and when they give it to him he hates it.

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>>219711010
its shit

>>219695161
Even the first season of SNW is a mess. I really liked the first few episodes, but by the end of the season I was extremely frustrated with it.

>>219710318
>strange new worlds was watchable
then how come nobody watched?

>>219710073
can't tell the difference atp
grew up as a 90s kid watching TNG
never saw the appeal of the star wars movies so just didn't get into them

now they're both just parodies of whatever they presumably were at some point

tho I believe star trek as concept will always maintain a level of respectability even with the outsourced trash we're subjected to

>>219653925
This. It's been a fever dream since it started. I remember being excited to watch ST: Discovery... Nothing could have prepared me for how bad all these shows have been.

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>>219711354
you liked trump is hitler and enabling child abuse? what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>219648631
Never got into Star Trek it seemed gay, but the intro to I think Enterprise with the stoic white man captain was kino https://youtu.be/7ZL1nCtu_NQ

I've never watched star trek but it always struck me as the bad kind of nerd shit (as in gay and lame), was it ever actually good?

>>219711415
Retard.

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>>219648631
>Sadly
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE.

Cause of death: millennial writing

>>219710318
>Strange New worlds is the only one of those that´s watchable
I'm kind of amazed by how many people I see saying this, even Andy Weir said it. All Strange New Worlds has going for it is that after the complete shambles of Discovery and Picard, it's at least TRYING to be Star Trek, but the writing and acting just simply isn't up to it, they're not talented enough to get there, so much of it is fucking embarrassing.

>>219709306
It was like being offered a single skittle after being forced to eat 10 kilos of raw shit.
Not really a ringing endorsement

>>219711562
yeah Im the retard for no watching a peice of shit generic current year cgi fest with a fake trek skin

>>219711650
it was like eating more shit after eating shit. all of nutrek is shit. except for star trek: scouts, of course.

>>219711677
I don't even like skittles bro

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>ATTENTION /TV/AJORAN POSTERS
>NU TREK IS CANCELLED
>THAT IS ALL

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>>219711482
It's got some cute chicks in it

>>219711637
When the first season committed to telling sci-fi adventure stories it didn't always deliver but there was a sense of potential to it. But instead of honoring its title as a show to carry TOS's spirit it succumbed to prequelitis with terrible shit like their use of the Gorn or insisting we really needed to see Paul Wesley's Kirk flirt with Khan's descendant in Toronto.

>>219693671
>Then Blackrock lost billions of dollars
They can authorize the creation of INFINITE federal reserve debt notes.

another thing /pol/tards ruined with their seething resentment. Mad that wh*teness has been decentred

>>219711637

Watchable means not absolute shit like the others. While it certainly can´t be called good there is at least some planet exploring and not all girls are apes. When people call something watchable they mean they don´t want to gauge their eyes out or that they don´t take offense on the show existing, not that they consider it good. You could say is a point of acceptable compromise and reserved judgment.

I'm a zoomer I always found Star Trek corny and boring. Where are the lightsabres? All it's gay fans act like it is super deep and meaningful

The most reddit show on earth is dead. good riddance

>>219712377
>Watchable means not absolute shit like the others
Watchable just means it's above a particular threshold for you, its standing relative to other shows should have no bearing on that.

>>219677815
What killed Enterprise was fucking Les Moonves being a massive twat who hated sci-fi. Enterprise wasn't doing that badly, but that decrepit old shitberg used the fact the network it was on was being wound up as an excuse to kill it off.

>>219696863
>So forgettable you have to remind people of its existence in order to get a noncommittal shrug of a response
Oh yeah bud, really selling the idea it's a cinematic masterpiece yeah.

I genuinely cannot fathom people who are so fragile they can't just say "yeah it was trash and I have shit taste so what I thought it was fun", every time they have to tie themselves into ridiculous knots trying to prove it's objectively good when it obviously, transparently is not.

>>219706952
*shitlib centrist idpol twitter

>>219712730
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 is bad then as well according to you uh oh

>>219711010
>retards like you say omg it's good because it's not AS shit as the rest
>watch it
>everyone still talks like a twitter retard, the head changeling lady quips and smokes, the plot is 2 episodes stretched out over 10, jean luc has a gary stu son out of nowhere, 7 of 9 is still granny dykes with that retard drug addict, a ferengi named sneed for christs sake, etc. etc.

https://youtu.be/02LgdXVkXgM?si=Uo7dAveJj6IFeh4G
This y'all?? LMAAAAAAO

>>219670423
The error is yours, calling them polcels and implying far right ideaology where you can demonstratively observe that they are actually more akin to 1990's liberals i.e. you have allowed consensus cracking lemming wordgame nonsense to supplant a real independent and logically congruent personal thought-process.

I actually liked Prodigy

>>219674242
Listen man. I agree that new tracks sucks but I think you are inserting your own personal 'tism regarding AI. Can you name me one AI production that is competed directly with with Star Trek? Like what are you even actually referring to? The fuckin will stancil show?