>>219649565
>white, has morals and isn't a raging retard
Ironically the antithesis of 4chan in every way

"reddit" has already been overused by ESLs to the point where it means "white, male, heterosexual."

>>219649565
DUDEBRO WHAT IF HE, CARL SAGAN, JIM HENSON, AND BOB ROSS WERE ALL THE SAME GUY

>>219649658
The newest Gosling movie being a prime example

>>219649565
Reddit would hate that he insists they tone down on the degeneracy to protect the children from modern vice

4chan would hate that he preaches love and inclusivity of all races and creeds

The modern world is too cynical for a Mr. Roger’s type

>>219649676
Jim Henson doesn't deserve to be lumped in with them

>>219649658
browns were already raging against reddit on here 15 years ago. No other 4chan meme has survived as long as the reddit rivalry (that only 4chan ever cared about)

>>219649702
You call it cynicism, I call it realism. Childish naivety gets society nowhere.

>>219649727
Everyone on every website other than Reddit hates Reddit. Also in real life.

He seemed like a good man with ethics and a moral compass. I would enter his house, take off my blazer, put on a comfy cardigan and have a good old chat with him.

>>219649770
>You call it cynicism, I call it realism
More like you have a contempt for tender humanity due to decades of lacking a higher purpose and indulging in spiritual and mental pollution online.

>>219649980
Would you rather live in India or Europe?

>>219649969
No one talks about reddit outside of 4chan

>>219650003
The Wests best qualities is due to men like Mr Rogers making it that way due to a desire to uplift humanity out of the muck

>>219650020
It's a goto insult on youtube, Instagram, tiktok, etc
Normies hate reddit. 4chan hates reddit.

>>219649565
Very good human being. This world is worse without him.

>>219650055
No, it's because of thousands of years of eugenic breeding systems, cold climates forcing us to become more intelligent, and years of killing criminals.

He's far too sincere to be reddit.

>>219650003
Without kindness and love and a respect for humans, Europeans would all be spiritual scamjeets. India is the way it is because huge portions of its population view each other with contempt and hate.

>>219650020
you just proved >>219649969's point

>>219650125
All those things also happened in China and they are bugmen who kill children if their parents have more than one, because they don’t recognize each other as human.

>>219650136
Or maybe it's because India has an average IQ in the 70s? How exactly do you promote "kindness and love" on a systemic, societal scale?

>>219650197
Christianity teaching quite literally did that for thousands of years.

>>219650182
East Asia is the best place to live outside of the West and has by far the smartest people in the planet outside of the West.
>bugmen who kill children
As if abortion isn't legal in most western countries?

>>219650226
Through what means? I'm sorry anon but telling people to be nice just isn't sufficient to build a high functioning society.

>>219650236
East Asians are miserable hylics who want to kill themselves because their parents never showed them an ounce of kindness and almost all of them breathe a sigh of relief when they travel abroad because they don’t have to pretend to be people they are not to appease their insane societal standards.

>>219650282
Would you rather live in atheist Japan or religious Africa?

>>219650270
Charity, prayer, a valuing of honor and sacrifice, cleanliness, a desire to protect the weak like children and the elderly. Christianity promoted all this

>>219650326
Yeah I mean these are just platitudes though. I'm talking practical policy anon.

>>219649565
Fred Rogers was more of a man than you’ll ever be.

One mistake he made was never removing the tie, thus never achieving peak comfy. He had all the other elements down to a pat; the cardigan, the shoes, but he never took off the tie, or at least loosened it somewhat.

>>219650349
Church attendance, family formation, laws that protect children and family values. Pretty obvious

>>219649658
>>219649689
>>219649727
The redditors outed themselves pretty quickly

>>219649658
reddit means loser. they make posts for virtual karma for a 20B company to sell them ads.

>>219650401
>Church attendance
I'm sure people will be thrilled about this in 2025 lol
>family formation, laws that protect children and family values
So just monogamy and sexual morality? That's it? Well that's about all the good I see in Christianity, so I'm fine with that. But that's not going to make a society of Africans anything like a society of Europeans.

>>219650410
DO NOT REDEEM SAAR REDDIT BENCHOD I AM 4CHAD CHAD

>>219650438
It will greatly improve every society, including African society, to have those in place.

>>219650480
But at the end of the day you'd rather live in a "degenerate" atheist promiscuous European country than a "trade" African one.

>>219650410
i've been here longer than you've been alive.

>>219649676
Fuck Sagan.
Don't be talking shit about Henson and Ross.
Ross was out killing gooks in the jungle, then just wanted to paint ends play with his squirrel.
Henson made some of the most memorable puppet shit on film.
A plague upon your house.

>>219649658
hit the nail on the head

>>219650305
Africans are still going to exist due to having above replacement fertility while Japs die out.

>>219649565
Mr. Rogers is cool.

>>219650558
Would you rather live in atheist Japan or religious Africa?

>>219650498
A Degenerated Europe that’s dying due to abandoning morality that made it great to worship money and materialism

>>219650558
African birthrates are plummeting rapidly.

>>219650592
NTA but neither as they would be downgrades to my current environment

>>219650592
Give me a small conservative Boer town in South Africa that will still exist in 200 years due to population growth over japs dying out due to not having sex

>>219650603
And you would pick that degenerated Europe over Africa. It's okay. You don't have to pretend you wouldn't. It's not wrong to prefer white people.

>>219650646
No, I would want said Europe to improve first to become a good place to raise children. I’d not like either otherwise

>>219650628
Not an option. Japan or Africa.

>>219650630
You would rather live around white people? Wow, you owned me there.
>>219650683
Degenerate Europe or religious Africa. Gotta pick one.

>>219650711
People would rather live around religious people who actually follow religious tenants.

>>219650684
Japan is closer to where I'm at economically and it wouldn't be as much of a culture shock to adapt to, if suboptimal.
But it being "atheist" is also a stretch. As far as Asian countries go, there's a good number of Christians there.
I'm also not the anon who originally brought up the benefits of Christianity, although I do agree with him that it can be a net positive, especially for the most unruly of places. In fact, it should be spread in such places the most.

>>219650711
>dying society built off religious men or society that corrupts religion towards bad ends
False choice, Satan.

>>219650745
Europe or Africa.

>>219650787
Trannies or gay men?

>>219650781
Europe isn't dying any more than any other countries are, and insofar as it is it's purely because of immigration.

>>219650817
Europe is dying a spiritual death as well as a demographic one

>>219650804
Europe or Africa?

>>219650326
Yeah but those are considered bad things to promote nowadays. I'm actually not sure why.
I mean yeah, if you want to label it as moralfaggotry you can but.. what of it? It's nature sustaining itself.
No man is an island, and for society to function and prosper in any meaningful way, there has to be a joint effort.

>>219650592
Japan is not atheist. In any fashion.

>>219650763
So Japan. Good to know.

>>219650844
Why not answer mine? I already answered the Japan question. Trannies or gay men?

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>>219650897
Uh huh.

>>219650901
And over Japan I'd pick a dozen other destinations, but yeah, when presented with those two, I'd chose Japan which is reasonably ok for an eastern country.

>>219650926
>he doesn't know anything about japan
Japan is religious because the religion is baked into their culture.

>>219650906
Gay men I guess.
What's the relevance to the discussion?

>>219650946
Where are those dozen destinations, pray tell?

>>219650897
Atheist = isnt Christian. Atheism hasn't been a rejection of religion and spirituality for a while.
Its just a tool people use to attack christcucks

>>219650968
So not atheism then.
Words have meanings. You can't just change them around when you want to win an argument.

>>219650948
>I guess
I guessed as much too. Choice is of little importance here since both of the options I gave you aren't really ideal.
How about this though. Religious Japan or Atheist Africa?

>>219650888
It’s because society has become extremely evil and fallen, to where virtue is mocked and exploited by those that totally lack higher values beyond mere “survival”. It starts at a very young age.

>>219651007
No, you dumb cunt.
I'm agreeing with you.

When people say they are atheist they are just against christcucks and or worship SCIENCE as if its a religion rather then a set of rules to study reality.

>>219651008
>Religious Japan or Atheist Africa?
Japan? And I'd probably even rather live in religious Europe than atheist Europe. That's not an own, I've never said religion isn't good for a society. Just that race matters more.

>>219651059
I was making the remark more to the thread than to you.

>>219650966
The vast majority of Europe, but if I could really choose any destination, probably Switzerland (it's not my own, although I'm perfectly content with it as well).
At this point America wouldn't be ideal but it has some nice aspects to it as well.
I'm not much of a weeb (though I appreciate some jap cultural contributions) so that alone doesn't make Japan an utopic destination to me, nor do the modest living conditions of the average person.
Ideally I'd have a big house away from civilization and closer to nature.

>>219651147
So only majority white countries. Good to know.

>>219649770
>Childish naivety
Literally nothing he teaches is naive. almost all of it is common sense regarding how children should behave, act, and make sense of the world around them.

>>219649565
jeet thread

>>219651192
Being white myself, and of similar culture, it would be easier for me to fit in.
If I need to, I can live just about anywhere, but I have bias in favor of some places above others and that's normal.
I'd be among whites in some trailer park too but that doesn't mean I would love it.

>>219651205
Racial equality is inherently naive.

>>219649565
you are reddit incarnate OP

>>219651268
I'll bet that "some trailer park" is probably safer than the wealthiest black regions in the country.

>>219651300
Doubt it desu

>>219649565
Stop using Mr.Roger to whore your dying twisted hellhole of a website.

>>219651316
NTA but statistics have shown that the most wealthy black neighborhoods have more crime than the poorest white neighborhoods.

>>219651316
No it's true. The most criminal white towns in the country have comparable crime rates to the safest black towns in the country. And those white towns aren't even 100% white, and vice versa

>>219651357
Yeah I'm sure there's a lot more crime among, say, celebrities with paid security guards and CCTV out the wazoo than some crack den in the middle of nowhere Alabama.

>>219649620
Fpbp
OP BTFO

>>219651426
I mean honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually true.

>>219651269
If not for racial equality you wouldn't be here. Remember, people you call white today hated each other.
They were different races cultures and had blood fueds that that were genetic.

You are a mutt. So mixed up you are just called "white" by your owners.
The only people more pathetic and unaware then you are the self hating g brown races that pay top dollar for white sperm and semen jack white men.

>>219651269
Racial equality under God is the foundation of Christianity Satanist

>>219651357
The same statistics that say blacks have been 13% of the population for over a century now?

>>219651455
>If not for racial equality you wouldn't be here
Considering the fact that 100% of my ancestors were in America before the civil rights movement, nah.

>>219651471
>Racial equality is the foundation of Christianity
I know.

>>219651426
Statistics don't lie. Blacks just love committing crime.

>>219651481
...
Ah.
Youre fucking retarded or worse, a non-white LARPer paid to start race wars online.

>>219651477
They still are 13%.
Why do you think otherwise?

>>219650684
Japan because unlimited anime and Asian qts. Africa if I was a woman, I ain't getting off on what Chang has to offer.

>>219651522
I'm retarded? Why? You know America was founded on white nationalism right?

>>219651542
Because thats not how populations or real statistics work. We're getting flooded with millions of illegals for years and according to statistics blacks are breeding like rabbits and eating up billions in welfare and gibs.

What's going on?
Fucks sake.
Mark Twain was right.

>>219649770
Functional society is inherently naive and built on a foundation of paper thin promises signed with ink.
At some point you have to take a gamble and trust the other person for society to work.

>>219651624
>what's going on
For decades they had high birthrates. And there's been some non-insignificant immigration from Africa and the Caribbean. That's what's going on

>>219651624
>according to statistics blacks are breeding like rabbits
No they aren't. Blacks make up the biggest percentage of people that get abortions.

>>219651568
...
No you fucking idiot.

Look at this thread. Evil does everything in its power to destroy good things.
Even turning mr.roger into a tool of strife.

>>219651647
That's what I told myself when I went into the Baltimore 'hoods. Then my bike got stolen.

>>219651684
Baltimore just needs to get wiped off the map.

>>219651671
Anyone who supported civil rights is my enemy.

>>219651714
So you don't want rights for yourself?

>>219651684
I've been robbed by a white person. Do you find that acceptable behavior?

>>219651725
Do you not know what the civil rights movement was anon?

>>219651749
Filtered by per capita yet again. Sad!

>>219651751
I do. It didn't only lead to rights for X race or gender of people.
Moreover, why should you have rights but others shouldn't?

>>219649702
>makes internet nerds on the extreme ends of the political spectrum seethe
that can only be a compliment

>>219651791
>why should you have rights but others shouldn't?
Because people like me make countries like The Netherlands and Switzerland, and people like them make countries like Zimbabwe and Haiti.

>>219651791
>Moreover, why should you have rights but others shouldn't?
Because "some" people are incompatible with society.

>>219651832
What country did you personally create? How have you contributed to society?
>>219651849
That's true but it's too vague. There's probably at least one person who is objectively incompatible with modern society who you've agreed with ideologically.

>>219651935
>An entire race of people incompatible with society
You ban them.
>one person
Put them away.

I think it's pretty bad boomer parents were so incompetent a man on the tv had to tell them they were loved, fred was a good one.

>>219651935
>What country did you personally create? How have you contributed to society?
Doesn't matter. People with genetics like mine create good countries and people with different genetics create worse countries.

>>219651773
"Per capita" won't return the stolen item. The question is how you prevent that from happening in the first place, and that's why there are laws in place.
At the same time, it's kind of silly to preemptively accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit just because you had a Nostradamus hunch that they would do it. That's where the childish naivety comes into play.

>>219652039
>it's kind of silly to preemptively accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit just because you had a Nostradamus hunch that they would do it
If they're statistically more likely to do it, why? A country populated by people who steal and murder more often will be different from a country populated by people who don't. Do you disagree? It's unfortunate that a white guy robbed you, but that's an individual event. When we look at the macrocosmic scale white people do not steal anywhere near as much as black people.

>>219649565
He was a pedophile

>>219652039
So all blacks a good boys until they do something?
No. Remove them all from the country.

>>219651979
>>An entire race of people incompatible with society
Doesn't exist. You can teach even wild animals to be compatible with society and serve a purpose in it, let alone people who are ridiculously malleable.
>>219652013
Yeah, that drunk bum on the street is practically as valuable to the world of music as Mozart was since they're of the same race. It's just that no one knows it, but it's totally true.

>>219652119
>Doesn't exist.
Yes it does. Blacks are incompatible with society.

>>219652119
>that drunk bum on the street is practically as valuable to the world of music as Mozart was since they're of the same race.
He's not, but in politics we need to deal with group averages rather than individuals.

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>>219652080
>If they're statistically more likely to do it, why
Because it would be falsifying information and acting on a hunch rather than facts. That's just stupid no matter how you look at it.
>>219652087
There's no such thing as "all" blacks or "all" whites. We can't even claim they all have a pair of eyes or legs.
Putting everyone under the same umbrella is nothing short of childish naivety because it doesn't correspond with reality, it's just an emotional reaction that creates your own paradigm of reality. Why would a rational person be interested in living in a false reality?

>>219652242
>There's no such thing as "all" blacks or "all" whites
Do you understand the concept of generalization or statistics?
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>219652242
>Because it would be falsifying information
They are statistically more likely. That's an objective fact.
>acting on a hunch rather than facts
Is it not a fact that Africa is a shithole, and that most black areas of America are shitholes?

>>219652142
And then you wonder why you can't be taken seriously. Maybe if you keep repeating the tooth fairy is real it'll finally materialize.
>>219652161
You're simplifying politics way too much.

>>219652338
>You're simplifying politics way too much
How so? Do you think it's a coincidence that Africa and Europe are so different? What's so wrong if I want my country to look more like Europe and less like Africa?

>>219652338
This is b8.

>>219652362
inb4 he says Africa is a shithole because whites made it one.

>>219652291
Yeah, but you can't use generalization as evidence for something that has yet to happen. Statistically, a few people have died on the hockey ring so that means all people who partake in it will die and you may as well ban it. Doesn't work like that.
>>219652331
Again, a black criminal existing somewhere in Missouri doesn't make a random black person in San Diego a criminal.
If laws were based around this logic of assumptions, society would be worse for all involved regardless of their race.

>>219652513
Thanks for confirming you don't understand statistics.

>>219652362
What's wrong with judging people on an individual level?
>>219652376
Why are you falling for it?

>>219652513
>a black criminal existing somewhere in Missouri doesn't make a random black person in San Diego a criminal
Never said he does. But any random black person is statistically more LIKELY to be a criminal. That's what matters.
>If laws were based around this logic of assumptions, society would be worse for all involved regardless of their race.
Well our laws used to be based around this logic back in the segregation days. We have the footage. Do you think cities were better or worse before civil rights?

>>219652559
>What's wrong with judging people on an individual level?
Because that's how you get to the shitstorm the USA is in today.

>>219652559
>What's wrong with judging people on an individual level?
In your personal life? Nothing. On the scale of hundreds of millions? Well that's just impossible. There are too many damn people.

>>219652542
If society relied on statistic probability alone, it would've been gone ages ago.
You're simplifying everything which is the naive stance to have.
May as well assume everyone ITT is the same person having a conversation with themselves since statistically all people who go to 4chan are the same.

>>219652666
You don't understand statistics, Satan.

>>219652666
Well America was racist for 200 years and it became pretty fucking great. Brazil was a lot less racist and how did it turn out?

>>219650086
>>219650140
I've never seen reddit mentioned every single time I use IG, tiktok, youtube, etc. I only see that here. Not even reddit says "reddit" as much as this website

>>219652570
Do you think an all-white society of today would be better in any way than an all white society of yesterday?
The brainrot generation would do a better job and definitely not be twice as degenerate?
Therein lies your answer. An argument can be made that a lot of things went to shit, including such that weren't prosperous to begin with. Hell, organized crime went to shit. Even the criminals weren't as bad as they are now. Ignore the US altogether and go back in time to any place on the planet and you'll inevitably find a lot of advantages.
>>219652578
The US is an example of what happens when you have overpopulation.
>>219652591
Which is why laws exist and why you yourself aren't in a situation where someone puts a target on your head from the day you are born, for things you have no control over.

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>>219652860
>The US is an example of what happens when you have overpopulation
You can come up with better pilpul than that.

>>219652860
>Do you think an all-white society of today would be better in any way than an all white society of yesterday?
It'd probably be similar to the homogeneous countries in Europe. Dysfunctional dating market, good public transit, high public safety, clean.

>>219652860
>why you yourself aren't in a situation where someone puts a target on your head from the day you are born
Anon this would've never happened to me. At the very worst I'd have to anglicize my Slavic last name. This slippery slope argument is ridiculous because we had the system I'm arguing in favor of and no whites were discriminated against, at least in law.

>>219650130
This alone makes him not Reddit.
Also he was a pastor, anti Reddit core

>>219652703
>racism alone will solve everything
About as utopic as any childish notion you'd come across on reddit.
This is all copium.
>>219652887
Weren't you pro-statistics? Just about the only advantage of big countries is their military output. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the more people you have, the more crime there will be. The more trash and poverty too.
Compare this to smaller, tight-knit communities and it's normal to develop a bias in favor of that.

>>219653002
Then why does Reddit love him?

>>219649565
He predated reddit existing by over 20 years
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>219649565
Faggot.

>>219653045
>he also doesn't understand the concept of per-capita
You are definitely black.

>>219653045
When did I say racism will "solve everything"? It'll pretty much solve the crime problem and make cities and public transit desirable. It'll also be a net benefit to the federal budget. It won't fix the dating market and birthrate crises.

In the end he really did become everyone's better even if he didn't have a bloodstained sweater.

>>219653053
Reddit loves water too, do you stop drinking it?

>>219653133
Any proof?

>>219653133
>r/beer has 164k weekly visitors
>r/water has 133k weekly visitors
Beer is reddit confirmed.

>>219653200
There's an r/water? Fucking god reddit is trash.

>>219652938
That sounds too optimistic to coincide with a likely reality.
>>219652980
But what if whites were discriminated against? I imagine it wouldn't be the best feeling, at least not when it's predicated on pre-conceived notions.
If 9 whites in a room are criminals and you're the single law abiding citizen, would you take 1 for the team and admit you're also in the wrong simply for looking like them physically?

>>219653090
>Juan wore a red shirt, so all Juans wear red shirts
Genius thesis. I'm practically clairvoyant now.

>>219653266
If I was in a room with 9 criminals I would leave and report them to the police.

>>219653363
>being this disingenuous

>>219653363
PER-CAPITA. LEARN IT.

>>219653380
But you're all the same color. Do you think the police would believe you to be the only innocent person?
Statistically that's unlikely.

>>219653266
>That sounds too optimistic to coincide with a likely reality
It's too optimistic to think that a homogeneous white country would be like other homogeneous white countries?
>But what if whites were discriminated against?
It would suck. So what? Why does that mean I shouldn't discriminate against nonwhites? That doesn't follow.

>>219653414
I'd rather get 9 criminals off the streets and maybe go to jail myself then see them run free.

>>219653266
>If 9 whites in a room are criminals and you're the single law abiding citizen, would you take 1 for the team and admit you're also in the wrong simply for looking like them physically?
If whites had IQs 15 points lower than blacks, violent crime rates 5-10 times higher, and Africa was infinitely more advanced than Europe, then black people would be 100% justified in discriminating against whites. I wouldn't personally like it, but every black person would be rationally justified in doing it.

>>219653401
Pot kettle etc.
>>219653426
>It's too optimistic to think that a homogeneous white country would be like other homogeneous white countries?
Anon we've fought wars against each other and between neighbors. What are you on about when you bring up "childish naivety" at this point?
>It would suck
What if there was a good reason for it though? If you knew statistically you'd be likely to be born defective.
Would you really be mad if you were discriminated against?

4chan has been reddit for like 10 years now. Reddit isn't even reddit anymore, it's more tumblr now.

>>219653558
>Anon we've fought wars against each other and between neighbors
Yeah? And? You know there's a war happening in Europe right now?
>What are you on about when you bring up "childish naivety" at this point?
You think I'm naive because I think an all-white America would look like Europe?
>What if there was a good reason for it though?
It would suck for me, but it would be good for black people and I wouldn't blame any of them for doing it.
>Would you really be mad if you were discriminated against?
Yes, but the black people would be justified in doing so.

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>>219649658
Wutchu talkin bout unc

>>219653468
More power to you desu. I've done thought experiments like this and I'm not sure I'd be up for it even if I like to think so.
>>219653532
Alright, but what if you knew whites who weren't niggers and for example lead a more Mr Rogers-y lifestyle, to tie it back to the thread. Would that mean they're also bad despite not having shown signs of those symptoms?
Or is it a necessary overall collateral that they should not partake in society as well?

>>219653735
>Or is it a necessary overall collateral that they should not partake in society as well?
Yeah, pretty much. You hit the nail on the head.

>>219653620
>Yeah? And?
Well, a white that goes against me is no better than a nigger. On the other hand, a nigger that supports me is preferable to a white who doesn't. And because of this predicament, it's hard to put all the eggs in one basket and base my entire worldview on statistics without taking nuance into account.
>Yes, but the black people would be justified in doing so
Well, it's easier said than done, and I'm not sold that this would be your true stance were it a real situation, but good on you for sticking to your convictions. I wouldn't look at it that way, mainly because I'm not land-greedy if nothing else. I have no need to be surrounded exclusively by those that I deem to be on my level. Those lower or higher would have a place because again, I can't not judge on an individual level first and foremost.

>>219654013
>Well, a white that goes against me is no better than a nigger. On the other hand, a nigger that supports me is preferable to a white who doesn't.
100% disagree. There have been wars forever. There haven't been blacks forever (in white countries).
>Well, it's easier said than done, and I'm not sold that this would be your true stance were it a real situation
I would be against it because it would harm me, but I would intellectually think they're justified in doing so. Personally I would oppose it out of pure self-interest.
>I have no need to be surrounded exclusively by those that I deem to be on my level.
Then go live in Africa. I'd rather live in Switzerland.

>>219653787
I understand your stance, I just can't agree with it from my perspective because it would be like painting a masterpiece and leaving one of the corners blank. "Good enough" doesn't cut it, so I would need a better solution.
And above all else, I just can't unsee the correlation between niggers and some of the people who are vehemently against them, so that doesn't sit well with me.
I do believe in the concept of a superior organism but I think this can only happen through unnatural means such as gene manipulation or more invasive technological measures.

>>219654095
>100% disagree
Then your stance is predicated on childish naivety moreso than mine. And that's one of many paradigms you can choose to subscribe to, and it's fine.
You could be the biggest racist or anti-racist there is, and a lot of the core aspects of human life will remain the exact same. But my pursuit is in being objective rather than driven by assumptions and I'm also interested in optimal solutions for the issues humans face, so I can't pick the comfortable or easy route.

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>REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
Go-to buzzword for hiveminded drones and tourists trying to "fit in" on 4chan. It's so fucking overused here now by so many gigantic faggots that's it's gone full circle and anyone who uses the term now comes off as more "reddit" than anyone they actually accuse of being.

>>219654141
>I just can't agree with it from my perspective because it would be like painting a masterpiece and leaving one of the corners blank
Real life is messy. Leaders have to make tough decisions. I've lived in a diverse area and a homogeneous area and I'll take the latter at any cost. It really just is so much better.
>I just can't unsee the correlation between niggers and some of the people who are vehemently against them,
Well that's because racism is a costly belief to have in modern society. As such only failures and losers tend to be openly racist, with few and (thankfully) increasing exceptions. But historically racism was an elite belief.

>>219654396
>peak reddit: the post

>>219649620
you can be a great guy or a piece of shit and you'll always have both fans and haters, there's someone out there who is into everything

>>219654361
>Then your stance is predicated on childish naivety moreso than mine
How so? Wars end. Racial change cannot be undone. I would rather take 10 years of war if it means the country will be paradise for decades after.
>But my pursuit is in being objective
Then why do you think Africa is the way it is?

>>219654430
Didn't take you long to prove his point.

>good people are reddit or someting

>>219654487
So is The Good Place reddit?

>>219649565
He fucked thousands of kids

>>219654462
>reddit quip
Sigh.

>>219654566
Sounds like you know a lot about reddit.

>>219654400
>Well that's because racism is a costly belief to have in modern society
Maybe if you care about your social media cred. Sure, it doesn't work wonders at a workplace setting, but at the same token, it can be monetized. There's an audience and an appetite for it.
If anything, I'd say it's hip among various races, and especially whites, fueling the accurate stereotype that whites are racist. Other stereotypes like blacks being lower IQ are also true.
I'm on the stance that both have a right to exist and do their thing regardless of their shortcomings, simply because I understand that my own existence is by chance, and I didn't even have a say in it.
So I don't find it fair that someone should be dealt a bad hand by society just because of factors they have no control over. But life isn't inherently fair and it's nice to rationalize that as well.
society.
As for elites, I generally don't care to emulate or want to be part of such a club, but I think society leaves more to be desired and this includes the top percentile who are moving the needle forward.

>>219654747
>I'm on the stance that both have a right to exist and do their thing regardless of their shortcomings
Well why can't blacks just do their own thing in Africa, away from me?
>So I don't find it fair that someone should be dealt a bad hand by society just because of factors they have no control over
Well it isn't fair. So what?

>>219650125
This appeal to evolution to explain the prosperity of Europe completely falls apart for people who understand that history didn’t start at the Renaissance. For the majority of recorded history (~6000 years) Europe was lackluster compared to civilizations near and around the Mediterranean with attempts civilize and establish trade with these barbarians ending in failure for every group that tried. Additionally, under this premise, Scandinavia should have been the region of the greatest historical Euro civilization not Greece or Rome, ironically they were the last of European people to become civilized too.

>>219654862
Italians aren't white now?

>>219654457
>Then why do you think Africa is the way it is?
It is in part answered here >>219654747
Thing is, I'm not at all on the opinion that intelligence is a predictor of good moral values, strong character or anything of the sort.
A smart person with bad intentions can do a lot more damage to society than a stupid impulsive person with no vision for the bigger picture or scheme.
But there's also the fact that IQ isn't the only factor contributing to a race's achievements.
Asians have some of the highest IQs and yet there's people in some Asian countries that need to endure lives equal to a living hell, comparable to a caged animal, all cleverly designed by said IQ.
This is another reason why I judge on an individual level, because the choice of what someone does with their "God given" strengths is entirely theirs, and can be used for good and bad.

>>219654862
>For the majority of recorded history (~6000 years) Europe was lackluster compared to civilizations near and around the Mediterranean
Are you retarded? "Near and around the Mediterranean" is Europe.

>>219654948
>>219654977
There are millennia of written history before the first word was ever written in yurup.

>>219655038
How is that relevant to the modern era?

>>219655038
For a lot of history Egypt was considered part of Europe. As was everything about the Mediterranean.

>>219654836
>So what?
So make it more fair and improve it, that's basically the meaning of life.
The illusory meaning we give it, at least. Broken down to more simpler terms, our lives are not much different than any other organism on the planet and boil down to procreation and eventual death, ad infinitum.
The factor that differentiates humans as a primate species is that we can give deeper meaning to things and actually manipulate our own realty to a great extent. In that sense, we create meaning out of thin air.

>>219654963
>A smart person with bad intentions can do a lot more damage to society than a stupid impulsive person with no vision for the bigger picture or scheme.
The real redpill is that smarter people are just better people in general. Stupid people are more likely to be immoral.
>Asians have some of the highest IQs
This actually isn't true. Their IQs are probably about similar to whites on average from the research I've seen. Most studies on the subject are flawed because they either use the heavily self-selected Asian-American group or test young children, who have less reliable IQs.

>>219649770
being a paranoid racist chud is not realism, that's all in your mind. If you teach children to be open and curious they will be much better people.

>>219654948
? Italians and Greeks absolutely are/were White that’s my point. If racialism was primacy in determining how great a civilization was then all of Europe would have looked like ancient Greece or Rome, instead they were a group of disparate tribal barbarians that had to be civilized by the aforementioned groups. This wasn’t exclusive to Europe of course but that’s all the more reason to conclude that race isn’t as large a factor as some make it out to be.
>>219654977
Includes but is not exclusive to, yes. Either way it makes the point that Europeans do not inherently make great civilizations.

>>219655243
And then they will die because they relaxed.

>>219655243
>If you teach children to be open and curious they will be much better people.
Why don't you go to inner city St. Louis, Zimbabwe, Brazil, or India, and try being "open and curious"?

>>219655284
>This wasn’t exclusive to Europe of course but that’s all the more reason to conclude that race isn’t as large a factor as some make it out to be.
Because 2,000 years ago Germanics weren't politically unified? Anon this is some flimsy reasoning. A lot can change in a few thousand years. But people only live a hundred at most.

>>219655142
>The real redpill is that smarter people are just better people in general.
I can agree with wiser people, but wisdom =/= intelligence.
There's a lot of intelligent sociopaths, who, from my perspective bring no value to a collective because their primary concern is to selfishly produce value for their own selves, while screwing others over.
Some of the worst people throughout history have been very smart. To effectively cause harm to society and disrupt its immune system, you can't be a retard.
On the other hand, some mentally challenged person can cause trouble on a local level, but it's much easier to deal with. So this is another area where I judge individuals and not just numbers and data.

>>219655324
>There's a lot of intelligent sociopaths
Statistically fewer than there are unintelligent sociopaths.

>>219655285
no they wont. The chances of a kid meeting a random person who wants to kill them is astronomically small, stop being so insane.
>>219655293
please do. For every scary person there are a million good people. You can put a 10 foot wall around your house and sit in your hallway with a shotgun all day waiting for the big bad black man to storm your house while I will keep on living chud

>>219655395
>please do
Have fun in Zimbabwe then.

>>219655284
Sad but true. Race "realism" is just another cope paradigm that simplifies life and brings sense to it for people.
But it's not really the ultimate redpill.

>>219655395
>The chances of a kid meeting a random person who wants to kill them is astronomically small
This relies upon the person WANTING to kill him.
It dismisses the possibility of someone just killing the kid because he was there. Or because he liked the kids shoes.

>>219655433
Have fun in Haiti anon

>>219655378
Like I said, in order for you to cause real and long-lasting damage to society on a larger scale, you need to be pretty smart and resourceful. So the thing that makes us better can be a double edged sword.

>>219655549
>in order for you to cause real and long-lasting damage to society on a larger scale, you need to be pretty smart and resourceful.
Not really. The largest damage is done by importing the third world and they are not smart nor resourceful.

>>219649565
>reddit

I'm so sick of you people being obsessed with that website. So weak.
And it's always wholesome, non-threatening stuff. You're just complete Nazis I guess. Or that's all you want to see here. Fuck off. Mr. Rogers was great.

>>219655659
There is no greater threat to the West than racial equality.

>>219649702
I kind of hate here and reddit both. I love Fred.

>>219650020
This.

>>219651269
The races are as similar as they are different.
Race is a collection of more likelys and less likelys. Ultimately you'll be treating every stranger the same.

>>219655828
>The races are as similar as they are different
No they aren't.

DUDE RACEBAIT FAGGOTRY LMAO

>>219655828
>The races are as similar as they are different
What does this even mean? Are the races similar when compared to different species? Yeah, absolutely. Are they similar when compared to different ethnicities within one race? No.

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>>219653200
Well, beer's out for me then. I don't do anything REDDIT would do!!

>>219655865
>>219655898
Racial differences are only apparent on the macro, to the average joe it's nothing really.

>>219655933
This but unironically.

>>219655946
Again, you are wrong.

>>219655995
Can you explain how?

>>219655686
You're just edgelord scum. You're trying to promote racism as a GOOD thing. Wow.

>>219656065
>You're trying to promote racism as a GOOD thing
Uh, yeah? Because it is?
>you're edgelord scum
Was George Washington an "edgelord"? Thomas Jefferson?

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>>219655994
Not doing what you want to do because people you dislike also do it is the weakest beta shit possible.
You are a fucking faggot, man.

>>219656134
I don't want to drink beer.

>>219656025
Look at an average black man (100% black not a mulatto) and look at the average white man.
They don't even look like the same species.

>>219650384
it was more comfortable for him
he was like David Lynch in that way

>>219656099
They were slave owners, so they were scummy. But I'm not going to view them through the modern lens. And nor should you. It was a different time. Ben Franklin wasn't politically correct but he was a fucking genius. You aren't trapping me into some sort of hypocritical corner. It doesn't work that way.

>>219656193
Well we were founded on racism, unlike say Brazil. And which country is better? What continent is better, Europe or Africa? Anon the evidence is overwhelming. Whites create the best countries.

>>219656170
Yeah, because you don't like beer. Not because beer is popular on Reddit. BTW, everything is popular on Reddit. There's no argument against the site really. It doesn't mean anything. Just a catchall for normal or 'quirky' or 'lefty' or whatever you think it is. It's mainly just a place you can learn about stuff. You don't have to use it for fringe political shit. Just get your question answered about your issue with the DVD remote or whatever brought you there. That's what it's for.

these threads are just foreign bag actors attempting to undermine your culture
just ignore them

bagged actors

>>219656250
>BTW, everything is popular on Reddit
Not Trump.

>>219656250
Very specific subreddits can be fine, but there's a prevailing "Reddit" culture that deserves all of the hate it gets. Most of the problem is on generalized r/all subs or politics subs. Just scroll through the profiles of Redditors posting and commenting on the front page stuff and you'll understand what I mean.

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>>219656241
Okay, well now that we're enlightened we aren't racist anymore. Anyone can come and assimilate. We wouldn't have made it if we didn't allow the Irish and Italians and Germans and everyone else you're now fine with because you've moved the goalposts. Those people were seen as disgusting freaks by the 'pure' British people.
We've had an Afro-American POTUS for two terms. It's kind of over. You fucking incel hicks are not bringing it back.

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>>219656260
many such cases

>>219656296
Did I also not just mention you don't have to use it for political topics? And surely there would be a community that DOES like Trump on there. Maybe fewer than other politically affiliated politicians. Who cares?
So that's what it boils down to for you Trump people? That's why you don't like a website?
Strange.

>>219656171
My wording might have been poor. I am not saying we are completely the same, but the races are alike enough to where they can be treated similarly.

>>219656316
How is our "enlightened" state going for us? Is America safer and higher trust than it was 60 years ago? Are blacks now committing less crime than whites?
>We wouldn't have made it if we didn't allow the Irish and Italians and Germans
Who were always allowed in as per the Founders' ideology
>everyone else you're now fine with because you've moved the goalposts
You're the one moving the goalposts. My views are straight out of 1776.
>Those people were seen as disgusting freaks by the 'pure' British people
Curious that they made up a third of the American population and had full rights then.

>>219656365
>but the races are alike enough to where they can be treated similarly
Again, you are wrong.
Black crime rate shows that.

>>219656316
Obama is a mutt. He's not full black.

>>219649565
Go fuck yourself you useless faggot.

>>219656394
Crime is rare, 13/50 is less scary than you think it is.

>>219656542
>it's totally fine that blacks commit 10x more crime than whites because most blacks aren't criminals
Dude...

>>219656542
Denounce the Talmud right now.

>>219656556
I didn't say it's fine. Crime isn't fine. It's just rare and a nothingburger.
If you would like to bring up more relevant issues like economic problems then sure.
>>219656637
I denounce the Talmud.

>>219656665
>Crime isn't fine. It's just rare and a nothingburger
You are high. Crime is fucking rampant in America right now.

>>219656665
>a nothingburger
Anon a society with 10x more violent crime will be very different to live in than a normal society, even if most people aren't direct victims. I can't believe you're defending high crime rates right now. Insane argument.

>>219649565
he was the original "DUDE HECKIN LOVE AND EQUALITY FOR ALL" piece of shit like puppet that fooled millions of white Americans into relaxing

>>219656736
>Crime is fucking rampant in America right now.
It's decreasing, what are you talking about? Trump even has a whole new police force.
>>219656740
>I can't believe you're defending high crime rates right now.
I'm not? I said crime is not common in general.

>>219656844
>crime is going down just relax goy

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>>219656426
Hence Afro-American. Half American.

Grew up in Hawaii with the Maui Wowie.

Blaze it!

>>219656965
That's not what Afro-American means and you know it.

>>219656556
I'm not going to hate black people because of the crime the worst of them commit. I've met too many good ones. Haven't come across any bad ones. My area is predominately white though. Wouldn't do for them to act crazy being so incredibly outnumbered.

>>219656844
>I said crime is not common in general
Do you not understand that crime being 10 times higher will massively change the experience of living in an area even if it doesn't "directly" affect you?

>>219656999
You need to venture into some black areas anon. Then you'll understand. I live in a top 5 blackest state.

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>>219656982
If anyone cared about his white half we wouldn't be having this issue. In everyone's eyes he's black. Except for some black people for whom he was not black enough. But that was just in mannerisms and speech. Obama was great, those years were great, and I wish we could have him back. If Trump changes the rules maybe we can. That would be awesome. Old Obama '36! (After two terms of Gavin)

>>219657046
>Obama was great
by what metric lmao
>those years were great
You were probably just young and happy desu

>>219657046
>Obama was great, those years were great
Except for the fact that he set race relations back 50 years.

>>219657038
Georgia?

>>219657100
Nuh uh

>>219657020
Change how?

>>219657064
I was youngER. I'm always happy. But I wish Trump and his insane fucking cabinet was not just reinventing the presidency and changing as much as they can for the worse. None of that shit benefits me because I am not afraid of immigrants or queers or anything else on 'the left'. I'd be fine with a classic McCain type republican right now over this. I'm not into fascism. Where are all these "don't tread on me" militia guys when gestapos occupy US cities? Unconstitutional shit happening and I don't care if nutbars think any of the ends justify the means. Between the 1% taking all they can before the world burns and AI about to displace everyone with a job that requires a brain, shits sucks. I'll watch the world burn and find a way to laugh, but it didn't have to be this way.
At least I had some sex and was never poor or hungry. I partied a lot and made some great art. I've had a real good run. And I know there are good people in washington working round the clock to undo all the nutty shit that's happening.

>>219657141
People will be more fearful, less trusting, public transit will be less invested in, you'll probably know victims of crime, damages will cost more to the community, etc etc
A crime isn't an isolated event. There are second, third, fourth order effects from criminality. Ten times more crime means all of these other metrics of social functioning will be ten times lower anon.

>>219657121
Louisiana? It's gotta be somewhere south

>>219657202
And this is how you endorse racism?

>>219657186
>he's been lapping up the CNN kool-aid

>>219657186
>I am not afraid of immigrants
You should be.

>>219657228
Yeah?

>>219657221
Maryland. Maybe we used to be more southern centuries ago. Now it's just a really weird place. I'm in a suburb that's not bad, it feels pretty normal. But a lot of this place is just a deracinated dystopia. I've been interacting with blacks since I was a kid. Most of them are pretty nice, but generally quite dull. And they're only nice when it's a few black people around a bunch of whites. Only a few times I've been in a real majority black circumstance and it's genuinely terrifying. Like something out of a horror movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJh3HwrpemQ

Anyone here old enough to remember this shit? If I'm interpreting it correctly, the song is from the viewpoint of someone who was raped because he was trusting because he listened to Mr. Rogers.

I loved Korn so much those first 3 or 4 albums. That was my coming of age era. But it's a fucked up implication on Jonathon Davis' part.

>>219657202
The actual chance of being the victim of a crime is still very low. Crime is also trending downward. It's hasn't been brought up that black crime mainly affects blacks as well, interracial is even rarer.

>>219657386
>The actual chance of being the victim of a crime is still very low.
...what about all the second order effects?
>It's hasn't been brought up that black crime mainly affects blacks as well
Yeah that's just because white people stay away from black people lmao. I don't want to have to be extremely cautious in the cities to avoid being a victim of black crime. But that's what everyone does. And we just accept it. Again anon, second order effects.

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>>219657454
They're here forever and you're not segregating them or 'sending them back to Africa' or anything else. You're just whining that they exist because you are insecure in your life.
Yes, we just accept it. You want to do some extremist fascist shit to the black and brown people? Good luck with that. You'll never find anyone that extreme gaining power. Those people are too big of a vote. So just shut up. There's nothing that's ever going to be done about the mingling of the races in western society. Deal with it.

>>219657551
>you're not segregating them or 'sending them back to Africa' or anything else
Challenge accepted.
>Those people are too big of a vote
Do you know what percent of Apartheid South Africa whites were?

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>>219649565
What possessed you to post such a thing?

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>>219657798
They just hate everything that is wholesome and good in the world. Incels. Bitter virgin manchildren, angry at the world, spreading negativity because THEY are miserable.

Just laugh at them. Mr. Rogers was special to me every morning on PBS. He had all the good advice. He had puppet shows where he did the voices.
He rallied the senate and got PBS funding that the republicans have gutted.

He was everything good in the world. Anyone saying anything bad about him is a little faggot.

>>219657798
Disgusting egalitarian race traitor naive decadent fool

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>>219658009
Fine speech. Mr. Rogers and Arthur were great things to watch before school back then. Heck, I'd say every PBS show back then, Bob Ross, Reading Rainbow, Liberty Kids, Cyber Chase, Dragon Tails, Between the Lions, Zoboomafoo, Clifford, ect. All of them had something you can learn from and enjoy even now. It's not too late, anons.

>>219658271
Reading Rainbow, hell yeah. And Clifford when John Ritter was on it.