>think Tolkien, think! You can write yourself out of this corner like you've done many times befo->THAT'S IT!>*writing: "and that's when Aragorn remembered the existence of an invincible ghost army">Hehehe, you've done it again T-bomb
>>219700806>RememberedThey literally headed for the battle as soon as they acquired them. Are you a retard or are you just pretending to be one (worse).
>>219700806Kill yourself.
>>219700806Why didn’t they just put the ring in a box and have the ghosts take it to mount doom?
>>219700806The ghost army does not appear in the battle of Pelennor Fields in the book, it just helps Aragorn to stop the pirates and open a way for flesh and blood reinforcements.
>>219701176OP probably thinks Tolkien was the script writer or something
>Ok... now the ghosts are going to bed now right before the big existential battle because they have honor or something I guessBRAVO HACKSON
>LAT THA LARD OF THA BLARCK LARND CAM FARTH
>>219700806He spent all his time describing trees, mountains and other nature shit he was probably burned out by the time he got to the last book.
The movie version of RotK is super streamlined compared to the book. For the better I think, even if it means the plot makes slightly less sense.
>>219701483I always hated how the passage of time isn’t well established when Gandalf is reading up on the ring so when you see Bilbo in Rivendell it’s like holy fuck he’s aged a century in a week
>>219701483The only thing I really dislike about it is how the Pelennor Fields is portrayed as a barren wasteland, while in the book it was a fertile farmland that had inhabitants and outer fortifications on it. >>219701575In the book Gandalf was gone for 17 years. Honestly, they could have kept it in the movie too. Frodo not really aging would make sense since he now has the ring. They just would have had to cut Sam and Merry and Pippin from the pre-timeskip scenes.
The strait is closed. Trump calls for aid
>>219701642The timeline of him telling Frodo to meet him in Brea so they can go to Rivendell together but first he needs to go see Sauroman is also confusing. In the books I’m pretty sure he gives Frodo a few months as to be all sneaky and slip away inconspicuously
>>219701732XD
Why were niggas in middle earth so obsessed with jewellery? If I lived in a world where rings were dangerous possible weapons of mass destruction, I would be a sneakerhead instead.
>>219701264Why was Viggo unavailable for filming this day?Why did they hire this paddy mick bastard?
>>219701575The book was much more focused on showing the ring as dangerous and making the quest feel urgent. Having Gandalf take 17 years to figure out what was going on with the ring, and then Frodo waiting around a few more months for his birthday, really takes away from the urgency. Plus they probably didn't want to bother with making the hobbits look different before and after the timeskip, Pippin would have been like 11 at Bilbo's party. Bilbo getting way older in a few months works anyway since the ring was keeping him young.
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The ghosts were a psychological weapon in the book. They couldn't actually physically harm you, right? Or at least it was left ambiguous.
>>219701732>Sauron has blockaded the gates of Mordor>So too, shall we blockade the gates of morodr
>>219705257>EaglesDid you not see these giant lizards flying around Mount Doom? Is your memory THAT bad?
>I release you from your vow, my invincible ghost army that could end the war tonightWhy did Aragorn rather send peasants to be skewered in ork spears than use the dead crusty criminals that made a promise to serve him anyway?
>>219705482This. Was the deal with them "help me, but only in this minor pre-battle skirmish" or something?
>>219705482I think people don't realize that the ghost niggas could just turn on them and kill everybody lol
>>219701264I always kek at >the SAAAME FEEEEER THAT WOULD TAKE THE HAAAAAAHT OF MEeeee
>>219700806>Tolkien says the mouth of sauron speaks in crooked words or something>Jackson reads this and (almost) decides to make the mouth of sauron have a vertical mouth in his faceI love these movies but we have to grow up and accept Jackson made capeslop
>>219705402yeah, they spooked the pirates off their boats that were blocking the mouth of the river and harassing the southern coast to occupy them and prevent them sending reinforcements to minas tirith. when aragorn arrives the boats were filled with soldiers from the south, not an invincible ghost army.. but the movie needed a quick reset button.
>>219705482>>219705511>>219705517Did no one here read the books?Aragon had no power to command the Ghost Army. They only followed him because Aragon promised to release them from their curse if they honored their original oath.Their original oath was that they would "Rise up to defend Gondor's lands from an invading army in battle". And that they would do this only once. That was their oath. Their oath only applied to the lands of Gondor. The oath was NOT to suddenly leave Gondor and attack Mordor. They were defenders only. Once the ghost army defeated the invading enemies, they demanded Aragorn honor their agreement. Aragon agreed and set them free. The Ghost army could have just killed Aragon and all of Gondor if he refused. He had no power to command them. They only followed him Voluntarily.Lastly even if they wanted to attack Mordor it would be incredibly stupid. They were Ghosts. And Sauron was a well known necromancer. A necromancer is someone who can command Ghosts and the Undead. That's why Sauron had undead ghost Ring riders obeying his orders. Sauron very easily could have taken control of The ghost army through dark Magic.That's why Gandalf and everyone says using the One Ring to fight Sauron is stupid. You can't fight evil with evil magic. Sauron created the ring and knows how it works inside and out. He is much better at using evil magic than anyone else. Sauron can only be defeated through goodness and sacrifice.
>>219705723the perspective on the riders doesn't look quite 100% right here but what an awesome illustration either way
What were they thinking when they wrote the script for the hobbit?
>>219705750>The oath was NOT to suddenly leave Gondor and attack MordorThe point is that they didn't join the main battle at Minas Tirith, not that they didn't march at Mordor.
>>219705723We wuz robbed of Dol Amroth.
>>219700999Obviously the joke his this was the introduction of the IGAWhat a waste of triple 9s
Ngl I doubt Mordor would have been able to conquer minas tirith by just attacking them. Don't even think they really needed the reinforcements.
>>219705759yeah Ted Nasmith is great, he was asked to work on the movies but declinedhttps://www.tednasmith.com/
>>219700806>zoomer can't handle myths and themes and attempts to judge writing on the merrits of his own flawed, deeply subjective attempts at logic.
>>219700806
Why didn't Aragorn promise to plant a billion trees if the Ents aided his forces against Sauron?
>>219700806>>219705931It appears your attempt to force a meme has failed.
>>219700806I don't give a fuck if it's deus ex ghost army machina, I love the lord of the rings books and movies. We're never getting anything even remotely close to those three movies ever again.
>>219705839Nasmith’s lanscapes of Middle-earth are god-tier but his characters are ass.
>>219705783Aragon had exactly one "free ghost army attack" card. He used it to defeat the pirates in the books. >The point is that they didn't join the main battle at Minas TirithThe ghost army did but they arrived much later on the boats.Minas Tirith was simply undermanned and the gates were breached much faster than anyone expected.The attacking Ork army was well Prepared and overwhelming. They had been preparing for decades.
>his characters are asseven Tolkien himself agrees>In 1972, Nasmith mailed photographs of some of his paintings to J. R. R. Tolkien, including his gouache of The Unexpected Party.[2] Tolkien responded by letter a few weeks later, both praising the work and making the comment that the rendition of Bilbo Baggins seemed a little too childlike.
