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>The woman beating murderer druggie retard is… le sad???
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>>219714149
mikey and brendan was killed off far too early.
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>woman beating
He never beat a woman, wtf
Oh you mean that shit with Adrianna? SHE WAS WORKING FOR THE FEDS I'd have giver her a schiaff' across the mouth too
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He's literally me though.
You wouldn't get it, OP.
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>>219714149
Should he be happy? What’re you bitching about?
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There are Breaking Bad fans, mostly female, who think Jesse Pinkman is a good boy with a heart of gold because he's so very sad, and has a soft spot for women and children. You can point out all the awful things Jesse did over the course of the series, but it won't change their minds.
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>>219714149
Nice lazy eye
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>>219714149
Imagine if Chrissy had repented of his sins and gone to Mass
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"Moltisanti" is a religious name for Christ sake.
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>>219714236
Didn’t Richie get on his case for hitting Adriana?
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White Man: *commits atrocities 24/7*
also le White Man: "umm... but im le sad sometimes :'("
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>>219714493
Oh yeah. Well anyway, she liked it.
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Crissy, Im gonna tell you something, quit making these stupid FUCKING POSTS
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>>219714355
If they saw him irl and realised he's like 5"3 they'd change their minds.
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>>219714149
she crawled under there for warmth
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>>219714236
Chris hit Adrianna on three separate occasions, only one of them was because she was working with the feds.
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>>219714517
>Italians
>white
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>>219714865
I'm a quarter Sicilian and I have to admit I've questioned my own whiteness at times. My own skin is white, because of the admixture, but when I look at pure Sicilians I'm thrown into doubt.
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>>219714149
LE NORMAL DEPRESSED GUY but he randomly kills innocent people or beats his girlfriend because the writer has to make a point. Fuck Chase.
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>>219715066
Don't worry. Probably 2/3 of all people who insist they're white are mixed and not really white.
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>>219714206
Mikey's wife was hot
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>>219715274
He's depressed because all his friends are criminal psychos who do not give a shit about him and he's no different. He's not normal.
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>>219715274
How is Chrissy normal? The prospect of a normal life disgusted him so much he killed Adriana over it.
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>>219715563
>all his friends do not give a shit about him and he's no different. He's not normal.
Yeah, he's me. He's 90% of the population probably. Have some sympathy man.
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>>219715274
Whatever points the writers made, you missed them.
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faggot deserved to die for ratting out adrianna

she was the perfect girlfriend

yes she had a barren womb, but there are 'ways' around that
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>>219715830
Whatever points the writers tried to make, it doesn't change the fact that they had to make the characters likable to keep the audience interested, and that's exactly what they did. Chrissy is a stand up guy with nonsensical psycho moments. He cries, I feel for him. I understand him. Same with Ziggy.
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>>219715953
>Chrissy is a stand up guy
He's thieving killer. An asshole who does nothing but poison everything around him while living in complete delusion.
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>>219715953
>nonsensical psycho moments
He's a drug addict from a broken home, with drug addict mother and a violent criminal drug addict father. These psycho moments aren't nonsensical and he isn't a stand up guy. He is uneducated, violent and lacks impulse control. He is human, so he has sympathetic traits too. What makes him likeable to the viewer is that, like many other characters on the show, he has some kind of impulse to change his fate and improve, which struggles against his nature and loses out in the end. But unlike Tony, who gives up struggling and just embraces his worst self, Chrissy struggles on until the end.
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>>219715946
>she was the perfect girlfriend
Sterile tho. Damaged goods that can't give a son. Not much of a trade off for going in witness protection for the rest of your life.
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>>219714517
They should be more like Browns and never commit crimes or violent actions
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>>219716265
I want to add that Chrissy actually seems to be improving at many points in the show and Tony’s toxicity brings him back. I’m thinking specifically of the guys bullying Chris to break sobriety (after giving him so much sho about his addiction) and when Tony gets pissy when Chrissy hosts a party without inviting the mafia guys
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>>219714206
For real. It would've been interesting seeing Mikey working for Tony. He would've definitely locked horns with Paulie.
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>>219715946
A. She couldn't reproduce
B. When faced with the slightest evidence of criminal activity and consequences she chooses to fink on everyone instead of get a lawyer or worst case do like 3 years with mob sending her money on the insider and backing her up
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>>219716439
>Chrissy actually seems to be improving at many points in the show
Yes, and he is always brought back down due to his low self esteem which makes him fear leaving the only life he knows, and his desire to please his father figure Tony. Tony meanwhile always stops improving when it becomes inconvenient to him, out of pure selfishness and laziness.
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>>219716535
>do like 3 years with mob sending her money on the insider and backing her up
lmao. They'd have ditched her in a sec cause she's not from Ye Olde Continent, they'd assume she'd rat out and get her killed in the joint, like they did, multiple times.
Chicks don't get the same treatment as made or semi made men
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Based Paulie. Rip Tony Sirico
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>>219716696
Shes Chris wife essentially which means as long as Chris is a capo shes taken care of. If he died or went to prison thats another story.
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>>219716265
>drug addict father.
Watch TMSON. Dickie wasn't a drug addict, the show simply had unreliable narrators.
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>>219716984
>TMSON
never happened
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>>219716779
I don't think even Carmella was safe when Tony got shot.
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>>219716535
The whole show is about the decline of mafia and by the point the show starts one half of captains there were complete retards while the second were rats. None of them were reliable.
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>>219714355
All women have Hybristophilia
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>>219714355
>You can point out all the awful things Jesse did over the course of the series
like what?
>he sold le drugs!!!
ok? Anything actually bad?
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>>219714414
Would have been too kino and optimistic for Jewpranos

most Soprano writers were jews
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>>219716439
>Tony’s toxicity brings him back

To me, that's the entire point of the Chrissy-Tony arc. When Chrissy tried to giving up drinking, Tony encouraged him to drink. When Chrissy made a film, Tony soon found a reason to get mad about that film. Tony also wanted to bang Chrissy's girlfriend, as if Tony's umpteen mistresses were not enough. Tony always felt the need to cuck Chrissy and put him in his place.
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literally no mobsters are likeable except maybe for Bobby B idk how would you consider Chrissy a deep character when he is a literal retard that should have died on like 4 seperate occasions due to his own stupidity
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>>219717301
Tony always needed to manipulate people to make himself feel better. That's why he's so butthurt when other characters don't do his bidding all the time.
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>>219717492
Is that the train guy?
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>>219717232
>fucks a diseased meth whore
>assassinates Gale in cold blood
>helps Walt dispose of a corpse in an acid bath

But what did he actually do wrong?
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>>219714149
He had a good heart
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>>219715274
Idk the acid face tranny story was kinda niggerish
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he's just like me when he says he's going to that mountain but gets high instead, except i'm getting drunk and not going out to do hobbies or meet people
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>>219718136
You forgot the part that he cooks and sells crystal meth
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>>219718574
The finest crystal meth.
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>>219714517
Browns commit atrocities constantly but are never sad because they lack the ig necessary for introspection
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>>219717887
no, the calzone with legs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2DAHhsQyHQ
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>>219717063
By the end of the show I came away thinking the glory days of the mafia were mostly bullshit that mafiosos told themselves to justify their lifestyle.
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>>219718689
Nothing turns a woman on more than some good meth
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>>219718763
I don't think having an instagram account makes you a better person
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>>219718952
Sort of but they were at least genuinely powerful. Leotardo I think is meant as am example of the kind of people who used to be in the mafia with his Rip Van Winkle trip to the can.
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>>219714149
Chris didn't deserve to die, he was younger then the rest of the guys and had dreams of becoming a screenwriter. He was just working under the orders of his superiors, he wasn't actually a bad guy.
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>>219720087
He’s literally a career criminal
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>>219718952
The mafia was objectively more powerful before RICO, which is a constant theme in the show. Finances become tighter which means there's less to share which means most barely make any money and those who get to prison are cut out and even if they're loyal they aren't rewarded anymore, which rots the inner structures. I mean pretty much all the mafia plotlines in the Sopranos are fundamentally about "guy returns from prison and demands his piece and Tony is too greedy to share" and "guy flips because the feds are taking away his money and he tries to save what he can".
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>>219720393
Only because he was born into the family, he wanted to be a creative type who worked in the movie business. He wasnt really given a choice in life.
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>>219716469
>He would've definitely locked horns with Paulie.
feels like everyoine did lol, for how much of a tough guy he was everyone liked shitting on him
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>>219714149
He made his own movie.
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>>219714517
sicilians are not white. they are indistinguishable from arabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_5lXUh1-E
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>>219714206
Based post Brendan working with Bevilaqua and Gismonte would've been kino
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>>219720486
He could have left. He still had that choice in his early life. Instead he underwent the mafia knighthood ceremony and got "made," knowing this sealed the deal and meant he could never leave.
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>>219720393
Yeah but at least got a career and no student debt either! Living the dream.
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>>219716535
>chooses to fink
Adrianna was too dumb to know what to do in that situation and had plainly never had anyone sit her down and explain to her to shut up and demand a lawyer. Again, this falls squarely on Christopher, who should've given her this talk early on and then checked in on her every now and again to see if she remembers the protocol
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>>219717568
Its really the main theme of the series, Tony hates his mother because he doesn't realize he just became an even more powerful version of her
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>>219717052
they don't go after families. if you watched the series you'd know that
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>>219720087
Christopher is given the opportunity to go into witness protection with Adrianna and one look at a regular guy with a family is enough to make him say, "no fuck that I'll just let someone kill her and keep being a mobster." He's a self aggrandizing piece of shit no matter how you cut it
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>>219720486
>He wasnt really given a choice in life.
he did make one though. initially he picked crime when tony gave him an ultimatum but when he got sober and realized that a. he can't do drugs in moderation in an environment where most people are doing them and b. tony isn't as great of a father figure as he used to think. then he realized he better start pivoting now or he'd spend the rest of his life asking "what if?"

it's interesting how tony didn't exert the same kind of control over chris the first time he flirted with making movies. i'm guessing because he wasn't made at that point? regardless had chris lived he most likely would have spent much of his life writing/producing shitty D movies out of carmine's shady production company. in the end though his disease was his downfall.
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>>219722133
the series' main theme is that despite tony putting on an air of effort in attempting to become a better person (evident from the very first scene waiting outside melfi's office), ultimately he is a. incapable of changing and more importantly (but doesn't get realized until the final episodes) b. doesn't want to change. he's a rotten sociopath through and through.
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>>219714149
>le sad???
Do you have to say it like a retard?
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>>219723137
>complaining about retardation on the dedicated retard board
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>>219718136
Doesn't he kill gale because Walter was about to get brained?
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>>219721029
He went back to using drinkwater
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>>219714206
People say a lot of characters were killed off too early but murder scenes are what keep people, especially normies, invested and excited. If they don't kill of named characters consistently people complain about it being boring
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When does this series get good? Im on like season 2/3 but dropped it because Tony gets vital information from a talking fish in a dream and I just didn't want to deal with it anymore
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Adriana never cheated on Chrissy
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>>219724853
Season 6, Episode 9, when Paulie sees the Virgin Mary at the strip club
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>>219724853
just drop it. the show's above your intellect level
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>>219720087
There's only one problem: he couldn't write
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>>219724853
lmao
>this is the type of anon you "argue" with on /tv/
just LOOOL
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>>219722270
Traditionally no but things got very messy by the end, especially after phils ugly murder. Someone set up a time and place where he wouldn't be alone, he was with his family. No more vendetta.



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