the real propaganda of this movie was trying to get americans to think of argentina as white
Buenos Aires was an inside job
Book Rico was a flip. If the movie kept him like that I honestly don't think people would idolize the federation as much.
>>219726492>NOOO THE AUTHOR'S INTENTIONS ARE IRRELEVANT! THE AUTHOR IS DEAD!!!why are chuds always like this??
>>219726988Because we have media literacy. You should try it sometime.
i thought that was weird even when i was a kid
Buenos Aires was an inside job.
>>219726988Not always, with Tolkien it's the reverse. This is just something people do when they don't like the criticism. Leftists do that too.
>>219726988>>219726492why do you always portray wholesome chungus minorities as space bugs, orcs, dirt monsters, etc? are there really no other metaphorical visuals? wtf is wrong with you guys?
>>219729660spot-onthis is exactly like freedom of speecheveryone only supports it for his own side and opposes it for the other side
>>219730118Hey listen man, I just think minorities are space bugs/orcs/dirt monsters, okay?
>>219726492I always figured the explanation was that Argentina - and therefore probably the entirety of South America - had gotten colonized by the US at some point. It really was an optimistic film.
>>219726988the humans being bad doesn't make the bugs good.Not every group of entities being aggressed upon are the poor heckin victims.
>>219726988The "author" in this case was being pro-fascist, retard. Heinlein wrote it during his fascist phase. You're thinking of the writer/director who adapted the authors story and said "this is le heckin fascism" after reading one chapter, so tried to make a parody (which failed)
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>>219726492kind of kino how many nazis fled to argentina tho, in my heart i want hitler to still be alive there
>>219726988death of the author is so reddit
>>219733556this is more about tolkien being unable to reconcile the great plot hole of christianity with regards to evil. So to save his framework, he forced whatever worked within it.also>leftoid memes
>>219733556>Heh, I don't believe in your stupid magic sky daddy but I will pick and choose from those beliefs against you when it suits MY agenda
>>219733855what?
>>219733930Are you Christian? Do you believe that Christianity is wholesale correct about the world?
>>219733778towards the end of his life he was working towards some sort of solution in regards to orcs and theodicy; sadly he passed away as it was just being sketched
>>219733973seek help, chud.
>>219734010I knew it. shut the fuck up roach
>media literacyAre we past the crest of this horseshit? I haven't been so annoyed by a buzzword since "mansplaining"
>>219734071You will never be christian, and you will never read Tolkien.
>>219726492No one's ever made arguments like this for Gundam's antagonistic factions. Should I just let the Zanscare motorbike tire mech crush me to death? Should I just let them use the Angel Halo and mindrape millions of innocent people?
>>219734087>the racist cracker is also misogynisticMan, wh*te people just need to die.
>>219733855No shit? If your beliefs are dumb then they will be used against you. That's not a hecking own despite the 10 year old polcel meme you're paraphrasing.
>>219734486Do you support the mass rape of women?
>>219733855
>>219734687No, I already told you I am not a chud.
>>219733556>>219733855>>219734486>>219734962
>>219735014Ah, so you agree that most immigrants should be removed from all western countries by all means necessary to prevent the recreation of the mass rape culture of india and the middle east?
>>219735056see: >>219734962
>>219735056See >>219734486
>>219726492I say we find out who funds this stuff and dox the fuck out of them.
>>219735165Why do you pretend that rape culture was brought by immigrants, chud?
>>219726492Is that who I think it is?
>>219734962you should let homeless people into your house
>>219735626Yes, that is what Jesus believed.
>>219735772you're also not going to do it because it's fucking retarded
>>219735626I will feed homeless people to the chasm in my basement.
>>219726492Do you guys ever get sick of reguritating the same few threads over and over again? "Muh media literacy", "Muh Chuds XD", an Xitter shitcap thread, God its all the same
>>219735811Contrary to you, I do not pretend to be christian. Therefore I am not obliged to do it, chud. You just admitted that you hate Jesus btw
>>219735056The most "religious" are the people who are the most "performative" and thus do it for the wrong reasons.
>>219735920I will feed Ethanisonline to the chasm in my basement.
>>219726492It's kind of telling that they associate minorities with bugs.
>>219735442use case for media literacy?
>>219726988The author intended for the bugs to be bad and the humans to be good though...Well, the bugs were literally supposed to be communists.
>>219726988>>NOOO THE AUTHOR'S INTENTIONS ARE IRRELEVANT! THE AUTHOR IS DEAD!!!Its literally woke troons and the leftist director doing this to the actual author of the story, Heinlein.
>>219735056>no i'm not a christianCrazy how this libtard strawman is still more religious and actually Christian than /pol/ tradcath chuddies.
>>219726988They are big into postmodernism.
>>219726988pretending to be retarded is not a political stance
>>219730118>What!? The thing that looks scary is actually not 100% irredeemably bad!?!?!Maybe stick to baby movies
>>219735056See >>219734962
>>219733556GRRM bros we just lost
I always thought the implication of a white Buenos Aires was some unspoken ethnic cleansing in the past
>>219726492Rather pointless film based on a pointless work.Name one serious piece of art produced by the american s*i-fi movement.
>>219732772Which is how it should be. We think we take sides, when is actually about personal ideals. The moment other people alignment doesn't follow your own, you stick to your guns still. You have to stand for something.
>>219726793SpbpHonestly Verhoeven should not have directed Starship Troopers. He was great with Robocop but that was intended to be a satire.A good Starship Troopers movie would have Rico be a flip and Razak as a Malay, as the book intended
>>219736228Commie scum are just as racist as nazis. Only centrist liberals truely care for you shitskin scum because they want your cheap labor.
>>219738744What artful sci-fi movies have yuros even made? (I legitimately can't think of any)
>>219730118You're not ready for this discussion, anon
>>219739396The Fifth Element was French.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifth_ElementIt may star Bruce Willis and be in English, but it was made and produced by a French studios. Yes, it's NOT a Hollywood film
>watch starship troopers>there's literally nothing implying the humans are bad and bugs are good>apparently I have media literacy because IN THE BOOKS it's different
>>219739836if it's not in the native language i don't think it counts.
>>219739842In the movie, they attack the bugs despite them being thousands of light years away on the completely opposite side of the galaxy, implying the humans are being war-mongers.
>>219739396>artful s*i-fi moviesImpossible, the entire genre is shit.The reason I singled out americans is the the country actually had such a movement in the early 20th century, albeit one that mostly consisted of awry-wanked jewboys churning out extremely low quality work.
>>219739934It counts, retard. The Fifth Element is not magically 'Hollywood' just because its in English. What, are you going to claim a British film is a Hollywood film simply because they speak English? Hell, it matters for the Fifth Element because it is the one movie that heavily features Mebius's art direction.
>>219740005The problem with normies is that they're too fucking stupid. There's a reason why in the Matrix the studio simplified the complex computing power of the human brain to develop the Matrix as "humans were used as batteries"
>>219740112The idea of a "French movie" not being in french, would have native frogs spitting on you.Also, for another example, would you really consider The Killing Of a Sacred Deer, a greek movie?
>>219733594hes dead by now regardless
>>219726492Starship Troopers movie sucks regardless of what it was trying to say.
>>219739836I guess The Fifth Element is "artful" but it's so fucking bad.
>>219740234I understand what you're trying to get at, but that movie was British/Irish. All the studios involved in its production was from Bongland. Sure, the director and original story was Greek but it was produced by the Brits.Back to the Fifth element, its production studio, crew AND director were all French, making it very, VERY French.
>>219740326>getting this filtered by the Fifth Element in 2026/tv/ really is dead. This place used to have taste even during the early Trump years. I guess COVID and Trump 2.0 really killed things. >>219658095
>>219726492I think a lot of time the "you're just media illiterate" argument is thrown around by people who probably have actual autism and can't grasp how people can fully understand a piece of media, disagree with the meaning of the media, but still enjoy it. I'm guessing it is because they themselves can only enjoy media that is constantly agreeing with and reinforcing their (typically political) beliefs, and can only enjoy or root for characters who are "just like them."
>>219726492Argentina is multicultural like all of south america, racist.
>>219740942They really just see media is a big moral test that you can pass or fail, and having the correct moral judgement is the most important thing the audience can do. This is why they're so obsessed with people liking or not liking certain characters
>>219735400whataboutism are always two ways anonyour reacttion pic doesn't adress the core argument of the anon you were answering to
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