It sucked. Nothing controversial about that.

>>219738297
Not enough Rhea feet, also adding aliens into the ABQverse was retarded when the rest of it is focused on semi-realistic drug making and psychic cartel bosses.

>>219738297
Was It? I wasn't here for that. Good show, though.

>>219738392
>adding aliens
They aren't aliens, they are modified humans, hello?

>Pluribus season 2 is not expected until late 2027 or early 2028
damn son. they used to crank 25 eps a season. nothing even happens in this show come on.

>>219738538
>nothing even happens in this show
This is such a pleb take. Congrats, you have just outed yourself as a pleb.

The way this filters people proves Harlan Ellison right. What the masses want is pew pew sci-fi at the end of the day.

>>219738922
>What the masses want is pew pew sci-fi at the end of the day
This is how we got the Avatar franchise.

>>219738922
Remind me what he said again

>>219738297
The pacing was awful and the writing wasn’t clever enough to justify it. There was no reason for scenes to drag on as long as they did. Carol should have met Manuso at the end of episode 4, not episode 9.

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Because you don't have to watch this crap anymore, there are better alternatives now.

>>219738922
You don't have to want pew pew sci-fi to realize this show was drivel.

>>219739228
Koreans cannot act, they have zero facial expressions due to plastic surgery and botox. It's literally like staring at dolls.

>>219738297
Because CAROL OWES ME SEX

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>>219739651
Wrong

>>219739228
>>219739772
Keep it in your containment thread, sister

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>>219739772
>I AM ACTING!

>>219739772
they're both eric estrada maxxing

>>219739772
It's literally the same actor in 4 different wigs!

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>>219739806
>>219739819
>>219740199
rude unnies

there are two camps. people who care about art, and people who masturbate to tv-shows.

>>219738617
half the season is literal fluff. its the lalo changing into slippers for five minutes shit all over again

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>>219738922
>The way this filters people proves Harlan Ellison right.
no, pluribus is just bad. look at severance season 1 and see how well liked it was even here with the second season being middling and all over the place, just like pluribus is. being mediocre is just that. your dogmatic notion that people are too stupid to appreciate something as boring as most of pluribus is makes you the retard in question that should stick to skiffy you egg sucking turd guzzling gazoonie. harlan openly calls out mediocre science fiction like 2001 without batting an eye. most of it is boring despite having good visuals and interesting core story, but shit is just dragged out and overstays its welcome. JUST like pluribus ironically.

>>219738922
Vince doesn't even do dialogue heavy intelligent writing though, he just does interminable 30 second shots of nothing that he thinks look cool. Or to be more fair to him he does this more than he should, if not all the time. Especially in recent years

The premise was interesting. It was well produced, shot and acted like all of his projects. The problem is that there is nothing to it. It's an entirely soulless creation. Carol is relatable but not engaging. There was a way to have the same base character without making her so unlikable and I don't really get what the function of making her such a cunt was in a narrative or thematic sense.

But in any case, there's no thematic undercurrent to speak of regardless. BB and BCS aren't really subtext heavy shows either, they're plot and character driven and they work in that lane. This show moves at a glacial pace and there is for all intents and purposes a single character that's impossible to give a shit about.

I really don't understand what he was going for with this and I don't think Vince does either since he came out and straight up said he has no idea how he's going to move the plot forward. Maybe he had this idea he thought was cool, a development deal waiting for him and no output for a few years and he just had to start working on something despite it not really being there yet.

>>219743641
BB has a fair amount of subtext about masculinity and the American dream and whatnot. Obviously not saying anything too sophisticated but it's there. BCS feels like a fever dream that doesn't even take place in reality

>>219738297
It has a stellar cast and a very interesting premise but it's all squandered away on "I'm a Lesbian Roastie with Lesbian Roastie problems"

>>219743641
>I really don't understand what he was going for with this
Obviously

>>219743791
>but it's all squandered away on "I'm a Lesbian Roastie with Lesbian Roastie problems"
So your sex scenes and romances need at least one penis, or you are not satisfied? I understand.

>>219738922
>The way this filters people proves Harlan Ellison right. What the masses want is pew pew sci-fi at the end of the day.
Sorry if I like my media to actually have something interesting happen in it besides the main plot hook dumbass-kun.

When does Mike show up?

Asking ppl what they thought about the virus is such a good Litmus test whenever they are stupid fuck NPCs or not.

>>219743641
make it horror centric and have either carol do the manuosos stuff or just manousos. it completely deflates after the first episode. there is no tension, no real twists, no insight, nothing to make me watch it.

>>219745372
How?

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shes literally me!

>>219748129
ask anyone what they though about covid

>>219738297
>controversial
that's a funny way to spell garbage

I really liked it.
I'm glad I watched it.
I'm glad I didn't give Amazon or whoever the fuck a penny to watch it

>>219749125
>Amazon or whoever
it shows who made it in OPs pic. get your eyes checked out , anon.

>>219738297
Wasn't

>>219749190
It was Amazon.

>>219738297
It's a show for women like all modern tv shows

i liked it but then the last couple episodes made me realize that its not really going to go anywhere to drag it out to multiple seasons when it couldve been a movie or a 1 season

Finished this last night, for some suprise i really enjoyed it and i dont usually like anything. The story is miniscule, very condenced and slow which felt like a nice change. Last 'new' TV series i saw was Dark which was also a mystery TV, but that series didnt really give satisfying anything and was complicated for the sake of it.
Pluribus drops some nice dilemmas 'What would you do here?', Who is in the right? etc. Its a nice univesal storytelling. Carol being a horrible cunt is such a nice touch too, she octarized herself and then the world octarized her.

t. screenwriter

>>219749220
not just for women but for lonely middle-aged white cat ladies

>>219749220
This is anglo propaganda.

>>219738297
Some of the younger /tv/ posters get offended by any show that doesn't have breakneck pacing and big happenings ever 3 minutes. Also subtext is a big taboo for them too, thinking makes them sweat or something. It makes them feel stupid and they lash out here about it.
I'm sure this post will attract at least one of them.

>>219749369
VERY good take

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was kino

>>219749407
>I'm sure this post will attract at least one of them
I sentencce them to death

>>219738922
To me it's the implication that there is pew pew scifi (because the virus is most definitely a weapon with all the knowledge we have so far), but we will never see it. Instead we see 30 minutes of a bored white bitch acting like a bored white bitch every episode.

>>219738297
The lack of fight scenes every 20 minutes filtered a lot of people.

>>219739228
>watch some shitty romance drama instead
Koreans are only good for thrillers. This has been established for decades. Old Boy, Busan, I Saw the Devil, Memories of Murders. Those are the only good korean things

>>219749190
I don't care about your corporations man.

>>219749468
It's incredible how Marvel managed to ruin a whole generation and make them retarded

i liked it but i can see how people would get annoyed at rhea crying over her dead lesbian gf and how it drags out with little progression. its basically a perfect example of wasted potential.

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>>219738297
main character was too annoying and unrelatable
some parts were dragged on too long

>>219749468
It's not that the concept is bad or that the writing is bad, it's that this entire thing didn't need to be a TV show. Earth is fucked no matter how you look at it. It could have been a 4 episode miniseries that ends in Carol's apathetic death. It could have been a movie. It doesn't need to be a multiple season show when there is quite literally nothing going on.
>hive can infect the last remaining people
>they build a broadcasting system for their signal
>they send it out
>they all die in a single generation due to mass starvation and 0 reproductive instinct
>the signal gets lost to space, with a 0.00000000000000000000001% chance that the data they send reaches a planet with advanced life during the same space of time where that planet would have the technology to receive the signal for the short burst of 50-80 years that it was broadcast from Earth
>Earth is now a little christmas wrapped gift with a lot of natural resources and plant/animal life for the original signal senders to colonize
With everything we have in the series so far, we know that the original signal from the kepler system could have been being broadcast since before humanity even evolved on Earth. Considering how the hive completely lacks a sense of self preservation that means the original signal could not have come from a hived community as none of them would have been able to live long enough to keep sending out the signal for centuries (unless the aliens in the kepler system are pseudo immortal).

>>219749557
>the original signal from the kepler system could have been being broadcast since before humanity even evolved on Earth. Considering how the hive completely lacks a sense of self preservation that means the original signal could not have come from a hived community as none of them would have been able to live long enough to keep sending out the signal for centuries
but they didn't need to continue sending it until it reached earth
signal travels through space even when the source is gone

>>219749557
While i understand that it could be 'trimmed' up, I think having it being this slowburn character arc about loneliness, addiction, ""human condition"" and who the people around us actually are, really benefits from the surgical focus on Carol, realtime and taking it slow.
Could you tell this story in 4 episodes? Yes, maybe even a 90 minute movie. Would it have the same impact? Absolutely not.
>Killing Carol
Would be lame and im glad it didnt go there.

Anyway, you plucking plot beats out into bulletpoints does not somehow 'shorten' the story, you actually have to tell it also

t. screenwriter

Really doesn't benefit from being weekly episodic. This is a show that probably should've been Netflixed, having the full season drop at once.
I'm sure people would still complain but it probably would've taken some of the heat away from each episode not having enough meat for people to chew on.

Same goes for that recent Game of Thrones spin-off, people don't have the patience for filler anymore. If your season only has 1-3 big moments, just drop it all at once.

>>219749631
The scientists mentioned that the Earth had been receiving the signal for a long period of time, it was just newly discovered. Even if they sent the signal 10 million years ago, it had to have been kept up for quite a long time so that Earth would get the signal at some point while being technologically capable. If it hit Earth for 500 years straight, but that timeline of data hit Earth during 500 years in the stone age, Earth never would have received it.

>>219738297
Female lead.

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Pluribussy

>>219749978
BASED

>>219749369
based tv enjoyer

>>219749631
>https://litter.catbox.moe/72yevszycu166h9b.jpg
Yes they do anon, the signal length isn't infinite. If the "other" planet's ????? time and their technology doesn't line up with the amount of years the signal was spent broadcasting, then it just goes unnoticed. It doesn't matter at what point in time that the signal is sent, but what does matter is the broadcasting length. The longer the broadcast the far more successful you are at having planets receive said broadcast. It needs to last for a long ass time for it to be the least bit effective. The worst part is the hive knows how absolutely futile this plan is, but they are hardwired to do it anyways because it's the only way their hosts (humans) would have any idea of how to contact life on other planets. So they are basically suiciding themselves on a hail mary idea because they have nothing else to do. That's why I think this is an attack, because the likelihood that this is some sort of spreading mechanism is extremely ludicrous with the biological imperatives of "not harming ANY life" and "using as little resources as possible" getting in the hive's way of survival.

Uploaded the image to litterbox because 4chan isn't letting uploads go through

When they can't have a white male love interest for once without talking about race.

When they can't have a white male love interest for once without talking about grace.

Rhea should sit on my face

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>>219750316
Did you ever bother to ask? it could happen

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>>219749470
You know nothing about Korean cinema, only what has been filtered by the West's violence addicted audiences.

>>219750760
Back to your containment thread sis

>>219738297
Because most of /tv/ are midwits who don't understand art

>>219738297
Was it? I've heard literally nothing about it. Good or bad

>>219738297

dunning kruger posters that use filter as a defense to their stupidity picked up yet another mystery shit box and made themselves look retarded, there's nothing more to look into, the literal mystery box that drops in on the last episode of S1 is proof that this genre has hit rock bottom
The show is nothing more than some gay Californian womanchild power fantasy.

>>219743641
that, nothing much happening, just a good idea and nothing behind. It kind of reminds me of Severance.

>>219738297
cuz we were plurbiiin for a bit and they said they wouldn't have more episodes for like 6 years, and then we unplurbd

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>>219750953
That's because nothing happens in the show.

>>219751235
>Californian
It's set in New Mexico

>main character is incredibly fucking boring, has the most uninteresting personality possible for an mc
>nothing ever happens, literally nothing after the pilot episode
>somehow stretch this out to 10 episodes for whatever fucking reason


>DUDE MARVEL MOVIES HAVE ROTTED PEOPLES BRAINS BECAUSE THERES NO FIGHT SECENES EVERY 20 MINUTES XD

yeah, no. its fucking dogshit and your dumb reddit opinions of no action = boring can suck my cock. the leftovers has barely any "action", its 99.9% characters arguging with eachother over nonsense and it is 100000000000000x the "atmospheric slow burn" pluribus wished it was.

Zosia was the only good thing about the show. The last episode was awful and killed my interest.

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>>219738297
One half criticizes it for nothing fucking happening
The other half praises it for nothing fucking happening

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Lesson learned: do not make a woman the protagonist of your tv show

>>219738462
modified by alien design virus

>>219738297
because it was an objectively mediocre show that somehow got a massive amount of exposure off the back of Vince Gilligan hype + aggressive online promotion for a few weeks and is now forgotten. Nothing irks people more than mediocre things getting unjustifiably high praise / attention.

also all of this >>219743641. What I found uniquely frustrating is that Vince, the man behind Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, managed to make a show about an alien hivemind taking over earth and yet somehow make it unbearably BORING.

vince is a fraud, he got lucky with breaking bad and has been coasting off that wave ever since

>>219749652
where is character depth or character development? look at the other unaffected - the show is shallow and goes nowhere
screenwriter my ass

>>219752622
BB and Saul are much better
but then again, this show is a product targeted at whine aunties and its another success, just for a different audience

>>219749519
that's the idea, it knows that it's boring and that's the joke. you can't build an entire show on that single gimmick though
>>219749369
I agree with your take except that there was no "season finale" at all. most underwhelming "ending" of all time.
>>219753079
are you kidding? Saul was absolute dogshit

>>219754837
>Saul was absolute dogshit
my last 2 digits are your iq

>>219753015
Huh? Carol has a big personal arc, did you even watch the series?
>>219754837
The 'Finale' was underwhelming for sure, i actually dont mind, but in retrospect i think it could've had a bit more oomph. My wife actually said very well about the box "Oh, its her eggs, she just asked them back", and i went like "I think its nuke, right??". I thought her idea was so much better, why did she just do t hat?

>>219738297
anti-hivemind propaganda

>>219743060
>its the lalo changing into slippers for five minutes
I've got a better one: it's Lalo
The show should have wrapped up in 3rd season finale. MAYBE get the 4th season as a wrap-up. But what happened in the end was a fucking disaster

>>219743641
The scifi premise was interesting, but Carol is not relatable or likable or heroic in any way. First off she's a Lesbian, so with that alone she's not relatable to 99% of the planet. On top of that her core emotional problem is that she had to "reign in" her lesbianness to sell books, and became a huge success but feels like a fake (also not relatable to any normal person).

When Carol rejects the hivemind and all its comforts for the power of free will, things started to look interesting... she starts to fight back, but then she spends 80% of her remaining screen time acting out petty revenge on the hivemind and then ultimately falling in love with it.

Her ultimately succumbing to loneliness and falling for the hivemind (a very evil emotionally abusive manipulation by the hivemind I might add) and rejecting the one person who heeded her call to fight was pathetic. I don't get why people watch TV written by these sorts of people who don't believe in hope or strength or anything good and honorable... they give us stories filled with selfish, shitty people who do selfish shitty things and call it relatable.

So all it amounts to is masturbatory, slow burn nonsense. Carol doesn't actually grow in any way, there is nothing heroic or redeeming about her, there is nothing to root for, she's just a boring, lazy, hedonistic lesbian bitch and we wasted a whole season of TV time watching her fuck around in empty sets, only to wrap it up with a cliffhanger ending of her maybe fighting back...

So really, we watched an entire season of alien hivemind invasion storytelling only to build up to the "hero" deciding to fight back.

>>219743641
the show is so lost. What is Carol's main pre-hivemind problem? She's an ultra successful rich open lesbian author who regrets making a character in her book a man to sell books because she was afraid of making the main characters lesbians... that's it. That's her emotional core problem... the most unrelatable retarded emotional base to build off of for an audience I could imagine.

Then we waste an entire season to get to her deciding to fight the hivemind..

Like the basic call to action in any conflict story is the hero begrudgingly accepts their duty to fight. This happens in chapter 1, maybe 2....

Here we spent an entire season running in circles with no emotional hook to establish that yes, this bitchy rich lesbian is apparently going to fight the hivemind now that an actual committed and heroic male character showed up.

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>Rhea will be well in her sixties at some point in the show

>>219756224
>a very evil emotionally abusive manipulation by the hivemind
How so?

>there is nothing heroic or redeeming about her,
I'm not the creator of the show but I don't think she's supposed to be a hero.

>>219756325
The hivemind initially forced itself upon every living human on Earth, it never asked for consent. To suddenly claim it needs consent to get Carol to change is manipulation. Everything the hivemind does is to expand the hivemind, via force, lies, deceit, sex, etc.

The hivemind understands human loneliness and it understands Carol because it has her wife's memories. So when Carol acts out and "hurts" the hivemind, they completely abandon her, knowing that there is no worse torture for a human being than being 100% cut off from all social contact (even fake social contact). Even the phone line is a message.

The hivemind knows this will torture Carol until she realizes she can't survive without the hive and welcomes them back into her life, thinking it was her decision, when she was actually emotionally abused into it. This is what women to do get what they want, pull away and remove affection in order to force the man to give into their demands.

Every story has a protagonist and a conflict. The protagonist is someone who wants something (that we can empathize with) and the story is about them trying to get it... except we don't really know what Carol wants and neither does Carol. But like it or not, she's the "hero" of this story.

>>219756299
hot

>>219756421
>The hivemind initially forced itself upon every living human on Earth, it never asked for consent.
Yes that part is pretty clearly wrong.

>To suddenly claim it needs consent to get Carol to change is manipulation. Everything the hivemind does is to expand the hivemind, via force, lies, deceit, sex, etc.
That is a very strange view. To me it was pretty clear that it didn't do those things.

>The hivemind understands human loneliness and it understands Carol because it has her wife's memories. So when Carol acts out and "hurts" the hivemind, they completely abandon her, knowing that there is no worse torture for a human being than being 100% cut off from all social contact (even fake social contact). Even the phone line is a message.
Why put hurts it quotation? It did that genuinely because it hurt the hivemind. Seems pretty gentle to just move away from the thing that hurts you. You could hurt them back instead.

>like it or not, she's the "hero" of this story.
I disagree. She's the protagonist though.

I literally cannot stop plurbing myself

There is a LOT of wasted time. Like 10% of the show can be edited out and you would miss nothing. There's slow and then there's disrespect.

When is Tuco going to show up?

>>219738392
There was actually more Rhea feet than I was expecting, it's one of the only aspects that didn't make the whole thing feel like a waste of my time

>>219756559
>That is a very strange view. To me it was pretty clear that it didn't do those things.
Not that anon but I stopped reading here. You're either a troll or an ACTUAL retard.

>>219738297
Vince was arrogant enough to think that he could release hag femslop and that audience would eat it up just because he made it (false)

>>219756559
you're operating from a position of trusting the hivemind at their word.

the hivemind's actions appear to be designed to prepare a planet for colonization by minimizing collateral damage and preserving the flora and fauna as much as possible for the new owners. Total domination without bombs or guns or direct violence of any kind, while keeping an entire workforce of humanoid slaves to help achieve any alien goals imaginable. Leaving the immune humans alive and healthy gives the hivemind time to develop a more robust and virulent strain of their virus, which benefits the hivemind rather than just "killing" the remainders.

The big question is what's up with the hivemind going catatonic when she gets upset?

>>219756768
>you're operating from a position of trusting the hivemind at their word.
Yes, it makes sense. You're operating from a position of distrust, which to me seemed likely to be from past trauma in your life/how you were brought up.

>the hivemind's actions appear to be designed to prepare a planet for colonization by minimizing collateral damage and preserving the flora and fauna as much as possible for the new owners. Total domination without bombs or guns or direct violence of any kind, while keeping an entire workforce of humanoid slaves to help achieve any alien goals imaginable. Leaving the immune humans alive and healthy gives the hivemind time to develop a more robust and virulent strain of their virus, which benefits the hivemind rather than just "killing" the remainders.
Okay, that's an okay theory. But to me that's introducing more stuff needlessly. The signal itself is the "aliens" that spreads itself through the universe, that is the alien invasion. That's what's interesting about the show compared to other alien invasion shows.
And why all the pacifistic stuff if you're right? It doesn't make any sense. They would have just taken her and the others and examined them against their will.

>The big question is what's up with the hivemind going catatonic when she gets upset?
That is pretty dumb to me. But I'm taking it as "they are so peaceful that they literally can't handle such acts of aggression."

>>219756686
Literally no relevant scenes

>>219757277
I took it as the virus is just a programmed mindless attack mechanism given various rules like:
1. do everything possible to spread the virus to all intelligent life.
2. work to achieve goal 1 without directly or purposefully harming any lifeforms and preserving as much local flora / fauna as possible

To an alien life form that can make a hivemind virus to take over intelligent life, every living thing on the planet is an asset to preserve that they can use with their hivemind to achieve whatever goals they have.

>>219756768
>The big question is what's up with the hivemind going catatonic when she gets upset?

The hive mind doesn't seem particularly good at emoting and they generally don't seem to naturally display emotions. It's possible that they don't even understand emotion, which plays into why they don't understand Carol's sarcasm. Aside from that one time they all started crying, they mostly just smile blankly or have no expression at all, so directed anger could be literally causing them psychic damage as they're unable to process a proper response.

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>>219757359
This probably wasn't even scripted, she just did it for the camera

As I understand it, Vince had an idea, wrote the first episode, then handed it to like a team of writers to write the rest of it? No surprise it's shit. If he sat down and just wrote it end to end, it might have been a good season, maybe one of the best. But you can't make a good show by a comeete. Final episode and especially the ending was so shit, it's unreal.

>>219738392
Those aren't aliens, they are symbolic of your anti-semitism or some shit

>>219738922
Harlan Ellison is a talentless hack so it checks out that he would endorse this piece of shit show

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>>219749470
lists the same revenge porn drivel from 20 yrs ago.

I think it's alright I just don't see how any meaningful events can occur that aren't just "and then Carol nuked all the plurbs and died"

Why did the rat at the start pretend to be dead and then spread the virus when it's later said that animals don't get connected to the hivemind?
Was he stupid?

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What's actually controversial is this guy's god awful taste in women

I did think the John Cena documentary on the efficiency of cannibalism was pretty funny

I don't think it's a weapon. I think the plurbs are honest about their intentions and that intention is to multiply on a galactic scale, like most lifeforms they are replicating and spreading, but they're not an intelligent species so this spreading serves no purpose. Easy to imagine that they were created as an attempt at a happiness modification to the original species, but it got out of control. They're clearly capable of deception and subterfuge, as they hid the patient zero without any intent to announce themselves to the planet. It's also possible the originator species had good intentions when they spread the signal, but that they are unaware that it has a horrible effect on non-originator physiology and fucks their planet up. It's also easy to imagine the show ending with some aliens showing up and going "oops our bad let's fix this now let an age of love and understanding rule".

That said the show moves at such a glacial pace that I can't accept it having some exciting action twist, but if I still had hope of this becoming a horror\thriller\action thing I would focus on how the entirety of the US administration was killed- not infected. What are the odds? If they were plurbed ahead of time they wouldn't be in danger when the mass-plurbing happened, if they weren't plurbed ahead of time then they were in some sort of dangerous situation which lead to their death. Airforce One maybe. It would be a very suitable twist in last episode of season 1 to reveal, perhaps just to the audience, that the government had tried to fight back in the last hours and were killed off by the alleged pacifistic plurbs. It would call the plurbs' motives into question down to why they even allow the humans to fraternise when they clearly are capable of icing them whenever they want. BUT season 1 is over and that didn't happen so we'll wholesome vibe then learn radios can kill them the end.

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>>219760445
He's from Africa. To him any white woman is a step up. There's also the stereotype that black guys like mid white women.

Also his choice in women is better than what other anons answered when asked who'd they'd pick as part of their harem. I remember one anon started naming porn stars and another said femboys.