>fantasy show/movie has racially diverse cast >cannot watch it for that reason alone>science fiction show has racially diverse cast >tolerable What explains this phenomenon?
>>219738707I cannot wait for Sandersons adaptations of Cosmere to fail because of this exact reason Audiences do not respond well to non whites in fantasy settings
>>219738707a multiracial future is somewhat believable given contemporary historya fantsy setting even tought it may be a fictional universe is inspired by a clearly monoethnic past>inb4 "hurr durr you accpet magi and dragons, but not californian demographics, chudnot an argument
>>219738707Fantasy is inherently European, so including nonwhites is like an uncanny valley effect for the setting.
>>219738707I don't care for most nons, so I dont watch media with them in it.
>>219738707the weirdest part of the wheel of time show is that there are black and brown people who play a large role in the story but they're not in the two rivers because it's an inbred backwater farming village in bumfuck nowhere
>>219738707>open your pic related >indian woman within 10 mins >close it and delete it off my plex
>>219738707Wheel of time gets a lot of hate, and as a reader of all the books I get it. Season 1 was brutal and season 2 barely better.BUT, season 3 was awesome and they finally figured out how to make this work just in time to get canceled. Sucks
>>219739896s3 they were still trying to do subversive shit like making one of rand's ancestors gay (??????)i think they got scared of getting cancelled and tried to swap to making a more faithful adaptation but it was too little too late
that first episode was just a big neon sign saying "this is OUR story now, chuds, and you can fuck off if you don't like it"
if you put an Asian or an African in a fantasy world that is obviously based on European lore it just looks stupid, you should have an Africa or Asia equivalent in that world if you want diversity
>>219738707>actually enjoyed the books>watched 15 minutes of this>Moirane is apparently fucking Lan>Mat looks 40 and its married>Perrin steals from the village and fences it with Padan Fain because his dad is gone and his mom is a drunk>instead of going home with his dad Rand stays in the village to fuck Egwene because she just turned 18But sure OP the problem of this adaptation is that it has too many blacks.
>>219740243Yes
>>219738707You were so close Anon. They are both intolerable. It’s why I refuse to watch Hail Project Mary.
>>219740243The plot doesn’t matter if it comes from an Indians poo smeared lipsYou are brown
>>219739708And making that place diverse kind of takes away from the plot point of Rand looking different from everyone.
>>219738707Funny thing is, the story already contains diverse and exotic nations giving plenty of opportunities to have indians and blacks in your cast. Placing them all in the two rivers makes absolutely no sense.
>>219738707Because (sadly) negroes being common in the future is realistic, while negroes being a thing in medieval Europe isnt
>>219738707Diversity and progression are usually interlinked. The further we develop as a society the more interlinked we become. Ease of travel and trade and personal freedom and better education encourages mingling and sharing of cultures. The more secure people feel, the less they resort to racism and tribalism. Sci-fi is usually based in the future, so we expect the world to keep progressing forward which will naturally lead to more diversity.Fantasy is usually based on the 'past' or at least an idea of our past, where travel and trade and life in general is more difficult, people are less educated, all things that make racism and tribalism more believable as the norm..
>>219740969exactly, totally bizarre choice
>>219740212When you make a fantasy that goes back in time to show whites in a simpler state (like the brown hordes today) you don't want color muddying it up. What on earth would an African fantasy look like? Just another Thursday.
star trek and space stuff implied the inherent quality of the far-future being full of diverse aliens.While (western) fantasy is still attached to Ye Olde, which means very separated races.
>>219739586>Fantasy is inherently EuropeanThe most based fantasy, Conan, is quintessentially asiatic THO
>>219742782Conan is an ancient Celt.
>>219739487>>219739586This. And the mobility of the common folk plays a huge factor, too. I’d be far more understanding if it were just a couple of mondo-powerful characters from other cultures. I’d expect those types to have the wealth/power/desire to travel pursuing their interests, but when you look at all these background villagers and see a rainbow assortment of races/ethnicities, it just gets too much for me.
>>219742937Its literally mongols/turkics
>>219738707>>science fiction show has racially diverse cast >>tolerablethis is stupid as well if its half and half. a show about the future in space would only have asians, whites and maybe some other lesser races here and there just for the fact that they cant keep up in the global market. look at nigeria and india right now and tell me that is a civilization worthy or ever capable of space travel. ESPECIALLY in space, where every little mistake could be your end cannot tolerate diverstiy hires.
>>219742782>hyperborea is asiatickys
>>219743713why wouldn't the far-north snow colony be Asiatic?
>>219738707People in sci-fi can travel at least as fast and communicate at least as fluently between cultures as we can today, sci-fi settings are also typically highly urbanised. That makes diversity at least as prevalent as modernity a plausible aspect of the world.Fantasy settings almost exclusively depict a level of technology and cultural development somewhere between the Classical ancient world and the Renaissance with a particular focus on the Middle Ages/Medieval period. Those societies were broadly agrarian, with strict social hierarchies, strong regional identity, firm linguistic barriers, and most importantly travel was *really fucking slow*. Foreign elements were typically present only in the biggest centres of international trade or religious pilgrimage and were almost always ghettoised with limited or policed access to the local populace. Migration did occur, but the difficulty involved in traversing large distances especially in numbers meant it was a very limited phenomenon typically driven by some kind of massive catastrophe(war, famine, natural disaster etc) and was rarely welcomed and conflict-free when the refugees tried to settle somewhere new. The idea that every village looks like inner city London or New York circa current year in that context is sheer farce, and makes it transparently obvious that the focus of the people making the show is not on telling the best story but instead on pandering to the leftist strain of deranged idpol fanatics. The only people who have trouble understanding this are the ones making the shitty shows and their retard cheerleaders.
>>219738707Wheel of Time and Witcher are meant to be all but completely white but were race swapped to hell and back. Something like Starfleet Academy is at least made up of original characters. Speaking of NuTrek, they at least still try to make their actors halfway presentable when putting them on-screen as opposed to the fucking OP poster which looks like a line-up of drug addicts and future murderers.
>>219745721wot isn't all white, it's one of the most in-world diverse fantasy settings ever which is why it's insane they still mixed black people in at random
>>219738707One is replacing what would generally be white people for no reason. While the other is believable since it’s in a multicultural future. Like Morgan freeman as a Moore in the old King Arthur movie is fine. Their are plenty of interesting cultures that were not white but Hollywood is too stupid to create interesting features off those stories.
>>219739896Anon, the show has been cancelled for a while now, you don't have to parrot the shill cope anymore.
>>219738707Modern transportation facilitates diversity while in period fantasy having everywhere look like a modern US city breaks verisimilitude.
>>219738707In a world of fantasy they don’t have mass transit which would facilitate the kind of cosmopolitan societies which we know today. How can enough people travel hundreds if not thousands of miles through lands and seas filled with not only brigands and pirates but also monsters and other creatures which could easily take them out.
Multi-racial and a mixed ethnic country is something that is created through accessible travel and the small amount of time and low cost it takes to travel.It's easier than ever to go from Africa to the the heart of America. Or the UK or wherever else. While fantasy tends to be set in medieval Europe, at least in Western Countries. Lord of the Rings, The Witcher, etc. etc. All of them still ride horses or take boats or carriages. All of which would take considerably longer and is more fraught with danger and the unpredictability of such an endeavor. One would need to prepare for extremely long hauls, which means rationed food, emergency supplies, preparations for diseases or sickness, people who know how to hunt or survive off nature, supplies for your horses or ways to fix your carriage or boat. It's considerably harder for a place in medieval Europe to be covered in brown people. The journey itself should be considered it's own story. How is there a massive group of Brown people there in some peasant village? How does that make sense? Give me a reason why they're there. Now - a port city or tradehub makes a lot more sense, but that is something that should also be explained, don't just introduce us to a new place and have it look like modern day London or New York.
>>219738986I can't wait for that spineless cuck to reap the fruits of constantly bending the knee to these cultists. Should've slapped Rafe around and told him not to take such a massive dump all over Jordan's legacy when he had the chance instead of coping and giving the showsworn the "it's muh different turning" excuse to handwave all criticism away with on a silver platter.
>>219738707kek i remember seeing pics of elayne and thinking she was mid but when you put her on a poster with all these disturbing muttoids she's downright breathtaking lel
>>219749579People forget that it took weeks to cross the Atlantic and there was a lot of shit that could go wrong. And overland travel was no better. Fucking Oregon Trail gives an idea of how shitty it was. If a axel breaks or one of your draft animals dies you’re basically stuck in the middle of nowhere.
>>219738707You're just a dumb inbred racist who can't relate if 100% of cast isn't white.
My favorite part about this "adaptation" was that it was so utterly unremarkable and failed to penetrate into the general consciousness at all that it never managed to produce enough fanart to pollute search results and the public image of the characters permanently.
>>219749842>a dumb inbred racistBut enough about brown people!
>>219738707Like other have said, media inspired/directly copied from the monoethno cultures, shouldnt include races that werent the part of the orginal story. Christian medieval europe and blacks? All the people should chase them shouting "saracen!" If they arent in chains.Try adopting some african myths and including white and asian people, just think how stupid it would look.Scifi on the other hand is future, which we dont know whats holding for us. I hateForced white guilt and jewlefties guilttrips, its basicly showing your cheek to minorities and expecting some kind of pleasure from being hit, while all of them view it as a sign of the fall of our civilization. Its funny because theres just a small subset of minorities that exploits it, half of them dont give a damn and just see it as some kind of deranged behaviour of white/influance of jews.Like with all parts of the life, we need a balance, lefties domination in showbiz is to blame but rightoids youtubers and whiners that just expoilts the topic for cash/likes are just as obnoxious as their counterparts. People got so far into politics that they brhave like pornaddicts, puting and trying to find their fix in every part of their life.Nowadays humans are designed by media to behave this way, the only way to achive any form of happiness and elighment is to not participate.
>>219740243>egwene and nynaeve are pajeetswhy they did this?
>>219739487A multiracial future makes no sense too unless the humans are strictly enforcing a prohibition of interracial marriages. Otherwise everyone would be a shade of brown within a 4 or 5 generations. It basically has the same problem as fantasy multiracialism
>>219738707>tolerableWrong. I have a drop of tolerance for the token non that exists to get killed by the monster or whatever, but anything beyond that, and I'm simply not watching.>https://litter.catbox.moe/v3zp0foxwv7gw2bt.mp4
seeing a random minority among a majority who isn't a foreign traveler or migrant always makes me think there's some kind of wizard or god who intentionally made life harder for that person for no reason whatsoever and it comes off as thoughtlessly cruel. there's no way other people in that society will be like>oh i just don't see color hahaa white kid being born in a black majority fantasy setting, there's no way they won't think he's some kind of demonic entity or whatever. africans already fuck with albinos over irl because of various superstitions, it'd have to be 100% worse in a fantasy world where their fears would actually be validated. and naturally vice versa, a white populated medieval setting is absolutely going to wondering why one of them was born with curly hair and darker skin out of nowhere. no one's going to question that in-universe?
>>219750323Why are they all wearing Benetton?
>>219750407She didn't say that
Wy would a medieval village be racially diverse like some cosmopolitan modern city? It's just dumb and very obviously for "diversity".>u r chudProducers, directors and studios verbatim admit to wanting more "diversity".>you should want a diverse cast for the grand and wonderful cause of diversityWhat purpose does it serve? Does it help black boys struggling inner city schools get good grade and get into a good college? Why would they care about Lord of the Rings or whatever? You should get rap artist Bignigga G to rap about trigonometry or something.
>>219750456You obviously haven't watched Wednesday.
It just is fucking weird when a secluded trube of territorial forest Elves had even distribution of black and asian elfs
I just know the magic system is supposed to be badass! Is it?
>>219750323People are genetically programmed to prefer their owns.North america, South america, South africa, Australia, New zealand. People have already been living next to each others for centuries and there's virtually no mixing.
>>219738707Isn't Rand from a very insular, small and far away town in the books which somehow has the racial composition of modern Chicago in the show? that's the reason I can't watch
>>219750668>skin finer silver, ivory or pearls with eyes as blue as the sea>cast a nogTar means regent/royal, not the bituminous liquid
>>219751246Always found it funny when fantasy media features racism and bigotry but never when it comes to ethnicity or sexuality.>fooking dirty knife ear cunt, leave out village! Ya' here! Your slightly slender frame will scare our children!>now come on M'bungo lets pop down to the tavern for a pint, have your Asian non-binary husband join us, love that guy>hope there aren't any of them Riverlanders from the neighboring village in there, those queer folk makes me feel uneasy
Bunch of bigots in here i see.
>>219751246It's basically cosmic yin-yang with a male and female halves that are strictly locked based on your soul. The halves are completely alien to each other (with some hilariously blatant sexual innuendo about them) but complement each other at the same time. The show completely erased this division until they begrudgingly name dropped the different halves in S3 but it still didn't amount to anything and there was no actual distinction shown.
Nigelves = instant not watch
>>219751331Yes. The village is so inbred, sorry, their bloodline is so old that that it's even a plot point that they produce statistically unnaturally many magic users who are also stronger than average. They're so isolated that the yearly merchant visit is an event everyone looks forward to because he brings goods and news from the outside world and Rand's dad leaving to see the world and coming back with a foreign wife was a once in multiple generations tier rarity. What did the showrunner do? He posted pic related very early in the production, which revealed that he has zero fucking clue about WoT and is most likely LARPing about having even read the books, or that he's deliberately trying to sabotage it for political reasons. Race and the looks of the individual peoples and cultures is VERY well defined in WoT. The Breaking of the World he's using as an excuse for these mental gymnastics happened 3000 years ago and people settled in their new populations that converged into their distinct looks thousands of years ago.
>>219738707>for that reason aloneIt's never for that reason alone.The kind of perverse jewish mind that corrupts the author original vision when it comes to the race of the characters never stops there.Wheel of Time is one of the worst examples of it.
>>219738707>the future is fuckedBelievable[/spoiler]Jordan wrote a world FULL of different peoples and cultures. The showrunners just HAD to force them all into the isolated little white village at the beginning. A place so extremely mono-cultural that a guy with red hair stood out like a sore thumb.
>>219753346>a beautiful mix of white, brown, black and everything in betweenMix those colours together and you get shit-brown.Is this showrunner a jew, a faggot, or a faggotjew?
>>219753561He's a homosexual mormon.
>>219753561>>219753585Oh and I forgot to mention that he cast his actual faggot boyfriend in a role he made up for the show and gave him more screentime than the actual main characters.
Casually pretending the fruity faggot protagonist isn't a jew himself, effectively making the cast hyper minority white, has been what I enjoyed most about your niggers' meltdowns over this dumpster fire.Haha yeah HECKIN diversity amirite fellersAnyway, here's rosamund speaking like she's on anavar for 15 years and an an asian man playing with his nipples at a funeral>wheel of time by blind guardian blaring in the distance
>>219753713>Casually pretending the fruity faggot protagonist isn't a jew himselfHe's some sort of a slav but as far as I know (and I did check) there wasn't any info about him being a jew. He did play a lot of faggots before WoT though.
>>219753713>your niggers' meltdownshey faggot, speak for yourself, my niggers didn't have any meltdowns
>>219750323This is actually a common misconceptionWhat you're thinking of is blending inheritance which is an antiquated 19th century model whereas most scientists today hold particulate inheritanceYou should look up these terms on the Internet to get an explanation
>>219750323>Otherwise everyone would be a shade of brown within a 4 or 5 generations.Why? It's just an assumption from naive thinking.Ingroup preferences aren't going away. Cultural incompatibilities aren't going away. Racial hatred isn't going away (especially not in Asia). Koreans hate Japs, Japs and Chinese mutually dislike each other. The Chinese themselves have 52 different ethnic groups that don't really get along either. Nevermind Vietnamese, Malays, Singaporeans, Thais, Indonesians, and Phillipinos. And let's not every talk about Central/South America or Africa either.Everyone equally hates Indians and Pakis by now too.Most Muslims don't have any interest in doing anything beyond overriding the cultures of other areas of the world and aren't going to adopt multiculturalism. They create cloisters and perpetuate divisions on tribal or sectarian lines just like they have for over a thousand years. Sunnis and Shias are never going to get along. Kurds are never going to like Turks, and Turks and Armenians are never going to be harmonious.Just pathetic wishful thinking to assume that harmony is an inevitable outcome.
>>219738707What ethnicity is this?
>>219738707Fantasy is based on history and myths of different cultures depending on setting, and making it multicultural makes no sense and ruins it.science fiction usually is about the future when everyone on earth has come together or whatever and making it multicultural fits the setting.Wheel of time being ruined like this really made me sad, couldn't watch it for longer than 5 minutes, fucking evil people who do this.
>>219754346Retard we’re talking about DEI extras in a sci-fi crowd scene. The hypothetical show is showing them as a harmonious community so we have to assume they are both a harmonious community of many different races that all work and live together and have no prejudice AND a community that violently enforces a prohibition on interracial relationships, otherwise they’d all turn brown.
>>219754346And in the WoT books all the people from neighbouring nations hate each other too. We're supposed to believe these people still care about minor nationalistic differences, while each and every one of them is swarming with jeets and aspiring scholars? I think not.
>>219754532Loial in the books is an Ogier.In the TV show, a Nogier.
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>>219738707Elves should never be black, they are canonically white and everyone is starting to see that and comparing us to high elves from LOTR. Saw a post on an asmongold comments saying Whites are elves and they are becoming fewer and fewer every year and eventually it will be truly amazing to even see one. So its been canonized.Blacks are canonically Orcs. Humans can be whatever race. I think TLDR if you just don't mess with the elves people wouldn't be angry but Elves are White and that is it.
>>219742986>the mobility of the common folk Half of these stories are the heroes going on an epic journey made epic because the roads are so dangerous.
>Black ElvesI know its fantasy, but I don't want to watch that.>Black DwarvesI know its fantasy, but I don't want to watch that.>Black HobbitsI know its fantasy, but I don't want to watch that.>Black HumansI know its fantasy, but willing suspension of disbelief can't bridge the fucking Atlantic Ocean
>>219740243>Mat looks 40 and its married>Perrin steals from the village and fences it with Padan Fain because his dad is gone and his mom is a drunkYou switched these up.
wheel of time was great thoughI also liked rings of powerjust comfy fantasy shows that don't stress you
>>219754903orcs are white coded though. even tolkien said orcs symbolized anglo imperialism
>>219738707There is literally nothing tolerable about this adaptation.
