I don't get it. Don't get me wrong I think it's a great movie. Maybe even one of the greatest. But what's the message here? What's Hashem trying to tell us with this movie?
>>219753234>a great movie. Maybe even one of the greatest?????
>>219753234What do you think Hashem is trying to tell us with his movie?
>>219753234the movie literally tells us that there is no point, that's the point. Kind of made the ending underwhelming, at least to me. I love the movie though, a lot. But the ending never gets much of a reaction out of me
>>219753415>the movie literally tells us that there is no point,I didn't feel that's what it was suggesting but I could see why someone could interpret it that way.
>>219753234>>219753415>>219753461The point is to live life as though God is watching because the world is one big continuous test of character. It's the opposite of that line from House >You find it more comforting to believe that this is it?>I find it more comforting to believe that this isn't simply a test.It is a test. The test makes no sense unless you're important to God, it's an egocentric view of the world that would be seen as excessively neurotic in a non-Jew. (like PSH in Synecdoche) However it evokes a deep monotheistic truth, that every moment is equally holy.
>>219753234He's ain't telling us bupkiss.
>>219753234>>219753688As far as I know, the rooftop thing is a reference to the destruction of Jerusalem prophecy. It's a metaphor for how instantaneous God's will is: when the destruction comes, a man working on his roof won't have time to come down and gather himself. The moment is always now.
>>219753688I have to stop associating with this board. People here are genuinely stupid. This is such a waste of time.
>>219753745You should definitely stop making threads like this if you're going to cry and run away after five posts.
>>219753776I'm not OP. I'm just disappointed.
>>219753798I don't believe you have a real criticism, because on your terms it should be easy to deal out. Let's hear it, smart guy.
>>219753798Hi disappointed, I'm gay.
Although christians believe in the same universal presence of God, christian characters that behave that way are usually autistic like the guy in A Hidden Life.
>>219753820>Hey, I'm the stupid guy you just insulted. Please futilely try to explain to me why I'm stupid so we can argue back and forth about it for half an hourNo thanks. There is literally nothing in it for me.
>>219753889Works for me. If you want to keep adding to your series of low IQ bait posts that would be great too, affirming.
>>219753234Every man has some sort of code or honor and once you break it you pay the ultimate price. There are like six Coen bros movies that involve the same theme.Also many of them involve the theme that life is pointless and stop looking for deeper meanings
>>219753945>life is pointless>stop looking for deeper meaningsTwo different ideas. Just because you can't dig up deeper meanings doesn't mean life is pointless, it obviously isn't in this film.
>>219753889>I'm just going to snidely insinuate I'm the smarter, correct one, without actually explaining or demonstrating why what my issue isVery pussy
>>219753945>>219754006they're actually opposite ideas because if you could unmask and acquire the esoteric point of life, everything else would have no meaning, but if there is no esoteric point then 'everything else' IS the point.
>>219754023>Very pussyIt's true. I'm a bear. I can smell the menstruation.
>>219754006It’s more like it was set up to be pointless to look for deeper meanings. The goy with the teeth. Why Sy Ableman dropped dead out of nowhere. The main character asking why he’s being punished as if he did something wrong. The ending where everything immediately turns to absolute shit for the main character after he changes the grade for money flips the idea on its side.
>>219753234>a great movie. Maybe even one of the greatestwatch more movies
>>219753415>the movie literally tells us that there is no pointThe rabbis had no lack of answers for him. They just couldn't tell him anything that would magically solve his problem. What you took as a refusal to answer is just them (and hashem) telling him to handle his spiritual business like a man. It's his soul and his responsibility, important things are happening, they refused to spoonfeed him a simple solution. >>219754097It's pointless to look for deeper meanings because it's a cop-out on facing your real problems, which actually have spiritual weight.
>what's the message here?We're not meant to know all the answers. Just accept the mystery and try to be a good boy.
>>219753865well, christians believe that God signed a new covenant with mankind that relieves us of our debts, it's a different situation
Why is the bully’s name Fagle? lol
>>219754400>oy vey, forgiving debt!? these goyim are crazy, G-d would NEVUH!
One of the biggest laughs of the movie is the “there’s another Jew, son!” after they shoot Richard Kind. Kind’s little “goodbye!!” and wave is so funny
>>219754441nah, there's precedent. God also fulfilled both sides of the first covenant, because Abraham fell asleep during the process
>>219754400it's different because a christian character faces legitimate questions of why he doesn't just travel the world and live, laugh, love with the nations. Jewish characters have more license to be paranoid and unworldly.
>>219753234The movie repeats its message all the time >Chinese dude saying "please, accept the mystery">Larry dreaming about telling his students "but even if you can't figure anything out, you WILL be tested on it!">story about the goy's teeth ending with the dentist simply dropping the issue and his life going back to being normal Meanwhile Larry keeps digging for the answers and things keep going wrong
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>>219753415your idiot wife just stabbed a person>>219755036how can you possibly be stupid enough to think accept the mystery is being delivered by someone that has any right to be listened to.
>>219753234>>219753415I think the Coens have a hard time making a point. They make great movies but fail to tie it up into a meaning. This, The Big Lebowski, Burn After Reading were all great enjoyable movies... but what's the point? Shit happens and here's how different people deal with it? Life is meaningless chaos?
>>219753234>>219755102read the book of job.the movie can be summed up with the second rabbi's words after he tells Larry about the dentist story: "We dont know"There are things humans just cannot know since our reality is driven by God and we dont have the capacity to fully understand His plan
>>219755102it's maybe more accurate to say that they're refusing to make a single coherent point. they proactively structure their movies differently from the classical three act structure, which works better for some things and worse for others. personally, i think it's dogshit as a plan for writing mysteries and will never understand why anyone likes the big lebowski, but it remains popular regardless
The point is that Jews are pathological nihilists and listening to any of their drivel will ruin your life when you could otherwise be happy
>>219755467>will never understand why anyone likes the big lebowskiIt's a comfy romp with zany, entertaining, and at-the-time transgressive characters.
>>219755608it's an awful fucking perversion of a noir mystery and i cannot stand it
>>219755630Frightful sorry to hear
>>219755608>its [i like] [i like] with [i like], [i like], and at-the-time [buzzword] characters
>>219755069SY ABLEMAN?!I fucking love this movie.
>>219755341eh. In Job everything gets wrapped up in the end. But how do Coen movies end? How does No Country For Old Men end? Evil exists and is subject to the same random forces as everything else, the end?>>219755467I think it might be the best movie ever made. It's the subtleties that make it. For example, the dialogue. Almost everything The Dude says up until he figures out what's going on is just a repeat of something someone else said elsewhere. You have to like the characters, setting, and ambiance to appreciate it I suppose.
>>219755986you have to not care about the genre its carelessly aping to like it
>>219755836Yes (complimentary)
IF SOMEONE COULD BOTTLE THIS AIR, THEY'D MAKE A MILLION DOLLAS
>>219755995Why is that? The point is the Dude is a burned out hippie who randomly stumbles into a detective noir story and is hilariously out of place. If you go into it wanting a good detective story then yes I suppose you'll be frustrated
>>219756029i didn't go into it knowing it was just a shitty detective story, that was revealed to me over the course of the film as i grew increasingly disdainful of it
>>219756048Loosen up, toots
>>219755513but they do it to educate the goyim!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3NVe8m_kB8
>>219755513STICKING MY TONGUE IN HIS MOUTHhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHIOLgGR5c
>>219755995They cared deeply about , or at least greatly understood, the genre they were spoofing. Good parody always requires great understanding of the source material. It's a comedy, man. Jewish comedy always comes from without, and so it's easy and possibly correct to view it as an attack or as having disdain for the source material, but I think lebowski lacks that malice.
>>219756573i have no commentary about whether the coens like noir, i just think they were clumsy and artless in making one
>>219755986>Almost everything The Dude says up until he figures out what's going on is just a repeat of something someone else said elsewhereThat's my favourite aspect of Tony>>219755995Holy autism, get that stick out of your ass
The retarded reddit NIGGER interpretation>God is punishing him with cancer and a tornado for giving in at the endThe gigachad 4chan based and correctpilled interpretation>Sign from Hashem? Don't know. Helping others? Couldn't hurt.Just be nicer to everyone.
>>219757713God IS punishing him, but God will not explain his reasoning or the one true answer because God is the answer. The only thing he doesn't know at the end is how to weasel out of being a good person and fulfilling his obligations, it will always be hard.
