Was the big bad all alongDidn't see that coming.
>>219753736Who could possibly give a shit about this capeslop for Reddit and Disney "adults"
>>219753765I enjoyed the first two seasons
>>219753736>Was the big bad all alonghow so?
For real or is this a shitpost because it's widely known that Robot is actually the final villain to fight
>>219753736I guess I don’t follow.
>>219754053>>219754078She's gonna have an abortion, which OP believes makes her more evil than all the characters that have murdered millions of people including children.
>>219753736>watching cartoons
>>219754255why are virgins so upset about abortion
>>219754255yikes they're doing the whole abortion thing just like the boys?Abortion is the real Holocaust btw, millions of babies many of them white being killed yearly. Of course kikes in Hollywood want to make killing your offspring a good thing.
>>219753736>women are evilshocker
>>219754255killing your own child is 1000000000000 times worse than killing the kids of strangers
>>219754593Why do jews want to normalize killing children
>>219753736>older than 12>still watching cartoonsNGMI>NGMIAlso, NGMI
>>219755324/g/ convinced me to buy buttcoin in 2012. I've already made it
>>219753736that she's from Finland?
>>219754255Certainly makes her villainous.
>>219754979You find yourself in a burning fertility clinic (don't ask why this is a hypothetical). You have time to save the crying, scared 6 year old child in the hallway, or the cryo suitcase full of 1,000 viable human embryos. The fire suppression system is faulty, and the fire dept is still 15 minutes out. Choosing one means the other perishes.
Isn't this the flagship animation show of whichever Streaming Service makes this?Why does it look a budget timeslot filler show from mid-2000s Cartoon Network?
>>219756424You could prove that human sensitivity leads to certain priorities with this example, you however would still fail to make any point about the beginning of life.Like the trolley problem, this hypothetical reaches no conclusion beyond human psychologyIn fact, if there were 3 fully grown people in cryo sleep in a freezer many people would still save the 1 crying child, it would still not make the 3 fully grown people suddendly not people anymore.
>>219756509>>219756424Furthermore, even if you could prove a 6 year old should objectively be prioritized, you would STILL have failed to prove that it's ok to deliberately smash the embryos in the ground and kill them, which is what abortion is: not failure to save (unless the mother is in danger of death) but rather active killing.Yeah this hypothetical gets thrown around a lot but it really is kind of shit at making any point at all
>>219754593>why are virgins so upset about abortionThey aren't, they don't care about fetuses, it's just a very lazy and rhetorically convenient way to smear your ideological opponents as babykilling monsters without engaging in any critical thought. Note how they immediately do not give a shit about any policy regarding the welare of babies once they're extant humans out of the womb.
>>219756618>kill baby >get offended youre called a baby killer>what about these other babies I didnt kill?!? Don't you care about themok
The rate of abortion was lower right before Roe v Wade was overturned than it was right before it was enacted.
White women need the right to abort their own children. The white race must be driven to extinction as soon as possible. Mentally ill white allies will be spared as long as you help the agenda. Kill all white people. Death to whites.
>>219756798Objectively, the best and more effective way to prevent abortion is to increase access to birth control, and yet almost no anti-abortion activists are interested in doing this. Why do you think that is?
>>219757477Birth control destigmatized fornication and made abortions "necessary" to society. Its like putting a bandaid over bullet wound
>>219757875What caused the early 90s reversal? Cobain's suicide or the fucking Gulf War? Also what the hell are blacks doing
>>219756424None of that is my problem. I’ve got shit to do I’m not saving anyone
>>219757907That’s just how good the 90s were.
>>219756424Being forced into a retarded straw man moral choice is not the same as murdering your own unborn child to be a whore.
>>219754593>>219756618It's unironically evil to kill your own child. Hope this helps.
>>219756424I can easily carry both the suitcase and a mere 6 year old, because I'm not a namby pamby, limp-wristed, soi-fed, sissified, pillow-biting, fudge-packing, lispy, cock-sucking faggot. Kid doesn't even weigh 50 pounds, I can hold them with one arm, and the suitcase with the other. Weakling cunt.
>>219756424Do a 360 and walk away.
>>219758045>vast majority of abortions are black females>huge amount of incest/abuse in black familiesThe real question is why do you want more low iq niggers in the world.
>>219758123Plot twist, the kid was black
>>219757875>Birth control destigmatized fornicationYou can blame that on whatever you want but you can't put that genie back in the bottle. Imagine if you were able to offer free IUDs to girls in at risk demographics, do you sincerely think that wouldn't drastically reduce the need for abortion?
>>219756424>If I had to save one child or 1000 elderly people with terminal illnesses, I would save the child. This proves old people aren’t human and we should be able to legally murder them.>If I had to save one white person or 1000 nonwhites I would save the white person. This proves nonwhites aren’t human and we should be able to legally murder them.
>>219756424Hey, it’s that guy who tells his toilet it’s going to prison because he thinks it’s stalking him.
>>219758179Why stop there? Why not simply forcibly sterilize everyone under a certain income/IQ threshold?
>>219758265>Why stop there?Because there's a really significant difference between making birth control available for free and forcing people into sterilization. Are you ok?
>>219756424>In my specific imaginary scenario I am right. I am an intellectual btw. Abortion is murder. It's genuinely evil. Most abortions are elective, and not due to rape or incest. >u dont le care about children after they're le bornThis just saying government services are bad, so instead of improving them, lets just kill the people who would need them. Neoliberals are anti human freaks. Seriously ghoulish political ideology.
>>219756424Baby killers love throwing out these dishonest hypotheticals they learned in philosophy 101 (or more likely learned from some faggy streamer like destiny) but they never know what to do when they hear a counter argument that isn’t one of the few they’ve memorized a response for
>>219758314>Most abortions are elective, and not due to rape or incest.Why is abortion due to rape and incest any different from normal abortion?
>>219758151Fucking this. If anyone is against abortions, I urge you to take a look at the actual statistics of who gets abortions the most. I'm not saying it's not evil, but it's the lesser of 2 evils.
>>219758305Oh wow they found a way to manufacture IUDs without any material inputs and implant IUDs without needing any doctors? That's awesome
>>219758346I didn't post it, and I don't endorse the tactic, but the purpose of exercises like that is to make people realize they don't actually believe the things they're saying in practice. It's absolutely useless against a group of people who already know they're being intellectually dishonest.
>>219758364>I'm being retarded on purpose and there's nothing you can do to stop me!
>>219758371making up an unrealistic bullshit scenario is intellectually dishonest when your ideology can only be justified through childish storytime scenarios
>>219758408well those conditions are the only reason IUDs could possibly be free. otherwise, they're not free, they're subsidized. I am mocking you.
>>219758432Yes retard, I am obviously suggesting that they could be subsidized. I at no point suggested that they could be "literally" free, as in have no cost to produce or administer.Since we're back on track here, why do you think almost no pro-life groups have leaned into the "more access to birth control" tactic for reducing abortions?
>>219756537Yeah this is the salient difference. Abortion is not prioritizing one life over another. It's killing a life because the mother doesn't want it. This is in no way comparable to choosing between multiple unborn children and one born, developed one. Not aborting a baby means someone somewhere else is guaranteed to die.
>>219756618>Note how they immediately do not give a shit about any policy regarding the welare of babies>if you don't agree to pay for, feed, house, and care for my unwanted bastard child I'm going to fucking kill it and throw it in the garbage piece by pieceThis sounds like a hostage situation. You're admitting these people are holding their own children's lives hostage for a ransom. You're not helping them.
>>219756424What does this have to do with the fact that 98% of abortions are elective and unnecessary? You are creating a hypthetical which does not exist in reality, not even approximately.
>>219758464Birth control is so widely accessible with so many varieties that if you get pregnant nowadays when you don't want to you're simply a sub 70iq subhuman and there's nothing we can do to make this foolproof.Birth control is accessible. Stop trying to say it's not.
>>219758601Do you think a teenage girl given access to a free IUD is more or less likely to have an abortion in the next 5 years? Yes or no please.
>>219758350Ask the people using it as their go-to defense for abortion.
>>219758636Why do you think many pro-life people are ok with making exceptions in cases of rape or incest? Are you? You certainly brought it up.
>>219758629NTA, but I'll say less likely, you'll act like a smug cunt telling me how wrong I am for some imagined reason X, Y or Z, and then we're back to square one where I call you a disingenuous retard.
>>219758636>we need abortion to protect the victims of rape and incest!>ok, should it be restricted to those victims then?>what?! of course not! it should be available for whoe wants it for any reason!!!Anyone that brings those situations up is just trying to morally bludgeon people into agreeing with them. They think "maybe if I say rape enough, I'll shame you into agreeing with me!!!"
>>219758665So your choice is just not to answer, when you clearly know what the answer is?
>>219758629I don't think children should be given free birth control implants without their parents approval so they can have more loose sex with each other you fucking weirdo. Are we gonna play this game or talk like adults?
>>219758629No. Is there a specific reason we need to be subsidizing teenage sex? Is that a big voting issue for you
>>219758701>I don't think children should be given free birth control implants without their parents approvalWhat if the parents are cool with it? What if we wait until the girl is 18? Do you think the person in this scenario is more or less likely to get an abortion?
>>219758726Again with the very specific scenarios where you can only be correct. Totally pointless argument
>>219757875>I can’t get laid so no one else should eitherEvery anti-abortion argument boils down to this
>>219758713>Is there a specific reason we need to be subsidizing teenage sex?Isn't subsiding birth control better than allowing (what you'd view as) literal murders to happen?
>>219758765Just quacking crazy how nobody wants to answer!
>>219754255If you had to chose between killing your own child or millions of other people the only correct choice is millions of other people. Women who engage in elective abortion do it for free.
>>219758786I think what's demonstrable in society is that all of this control is having an inverse effect. Birth control is as effective and accessible as it has ever been in human history. The amount of unwanted children we should have should be zero. It's so widely available that it's mind boggling if it ever happens. Adding more into the mix is not going to solve this.
>>219753736Anti-abortion propaganda is a jewish psyop because the majority of the army is made up of kids who come from a cycle of poverty that are the direct result of not getting abortions. Less abortions mean more meat for the Israel grinder.
>>219758543>This sounds like a hostage situationIt is.
>>219758796You want the answer? Since you listed it only as "5 years" then obviously it will be less. Past that it will be more, because birth control has had an inverse effect on unwanted children.>If a woman makes herself effectively infertile for 5 years, over the next 5 years will she be more or less likely to have an abortion???>OH, YOU SAID LESS??? HAHA I'M RIGHTGod damn you're a disingenuous retard. You set up a scenario in your head where you literally cannot be wrong because you set up the parameters, then use it as a smoking gun "GOTCHA".
>>219758796Yes, nobody wants to play pretend with you, that means you're right. A lot of neoliberalism seems to be playing pretend, especially with social issues. Pretend gender is a spectrum, not a binary. Pretend ripping babies out of a womb with forceps chunks at a time isn't murder, its removing clumps of cells. You are not as smart as you think you are my man, go back to bluesky so you can pretend you're not smarmy and wrong
>>219758856Do you really think women wouldn't rather use birth control than have an abortion? Clearly it is not available enough, or not being used properly enough, because the demand for abortion is still there. How do you explain that?It seems like the cost of subsidizing effective birth control is more than worth the investment of keeping surplus people off of programs like welfare and medicaid, and as I said it literally prevents murder in the eyes of pro-life people. Why does nobody want to try this?
>>219758901>tranny spergout apropos of nothinglmao
>>219758914>Do you really think women wouldn't rather use birth control than have an abortion?
>>219758914>Do you really think women wouldn't rather use birth control than have an abortion?Uhh, yeah. Because abortions are not the result of a condom breaking or a pill failing, both incredibly easily accessible methods of birth control. It's people to lazy and retarded to put in the infinitesimal effort to procure one of the 31 flavors of birth control prior to having sex.Your "solution" is to just take away the need for that infinitesimal effort. They weren't willing to get free condoms. They weren't willing to take a pill. They weren't willing to pull out. But they'll line right up for invasive implants that make them infertile for half a decade?Birth control is the cause of unwanted children. Because treating sex with wanton disregard is not going to result in less unwanted pregnancies.
>>219758958True. People HATE going to the doctors so this idea that making IUDs free will somehow make unwanted children dramatically appear less is retarded. By all means make it free but it won't do jack shit because people are lazy and retarded to do it in the first place to pick up a pack of condoms next time they go to the liquor store. They sure as fuck are not going to go to the doctor and make an appointment and keep it.
>>219758932ad hominem huh. I accept your concession.
>>219758958I agree that condoms and the pill are pretty easy for young, sexually inexperienced and irresponsible people to fuck up. That's why I hone in on IUDs as a good solution, they are pretty foolproof, they don't require people to remember anything, and they're extremely effective. Why don't we try that?>>219758994You literally think, seriously, that if a state offered free IUDs to at risk women between the ages of 16 - 20 that NOBODY would take them up on this? That literally ZERO abortions would be prevented?
Additionally, you guys want women who are too retarded to take a pill every day or use a condom correctly to be taking care of babies? This is the kind of shit that makes me incredulous.
>>219759050eugenics are commonly considered immoral
>>219759018>NOBODY would take them up on this? That literally ZERO abortions would be prevented?Always with the hyperbole, this guy. Obviously if you offered a program like this it may have some minor short term benefit. But here's the kicker, once that 5 years is up or nearing up, these women are going to keep doing what they're doing. Unless your plan is to effectively render them infertile in 5 year increments until they hit menopause.They're going to keep getting creampied by random men that aren't committed to them forever and ever, and it'll hurt their chances of finding another man later on, which will make their prospects in a husband worse, which will result in a higher rate of unwanted pregnancies because they're simply never going to stop having regular loose sex with men that don't care about them. You're essentially equipping all of these young women to be whores and then expecting this to result in less unwanted pregnancies.The only way you reverse this is a ridiculously large societal effort to restore the value of sex. To promote not having loose sex with strangers just because you can. To make sex outside of marriage not something that is simply accepted and even encouraged. Abortions come from unwanted pregnancies. Endorsing loose sex is not going to result in less unwanted pregnancies.
>>219759018>somehow make unwanted children dramatically appear less is retarded. By all means make it free but it won't do jack shit because people are lazy and retarded to do it in the first placeThey give out free condoms in school and it wont do anything because people are straight up not using them. Regardless of pregnancy, you're still supposed to use condoms for STDs anyways but people can have their dick nearly fall off but still hit it raw as soon as it clears up. Yes, abortions would still be a major issue even if it was free. Quebec has free IUDs and still is one of the provinces with the highest abortion rates so it is clearly not an issue of access and cost. That is retarded.
>>219759097>Always with the hyperbole, this guy. Obviously if you offered a program like this it may have some minor short term benefit. But here's the kicker, once that 5 years is up or nearing up, these women are going to keep doing what they're doing.So let's give them another round, or they can pay for their own. The idea for me is to get women over this hump where they are irresponsible teenagers, women in their 20s are much more likely to be able to be responsible about their own reproductive health shit than teenagers.
>>219759050It's moral grandstanding on a technicality.
>>219759115It turns out when you remove the consequences of sex, people have more loose sex. When you have more loose sex, you have more unwanted pregnancies. It's not a difficult premise to grasp. It's evident in modern society. We have more unwanted children now with the most advanced methods of birth control in human history than we did a century ago.I just remember how outraged some groups of women were over Roe v Wade being overturned. Vowing to not have sex with men unless they entered into some contractual obligation to take care of them and their child should they get pregnant.If only we had something like that in society that tied a man and woman together in vows to care for one another and their shared offspring...
>>219759148>women in their 20s are much more likely to be able to be responsible about their own reproductive health shit than teenagers.
>>219759148>women in their 20s are much more likely to be able to be responsibleWell now you're just being delusional. A 19 year old retarded whore is just gonna be a 28 year old retarded whore one day. They do not learn unless there is consequences. You're saying let's just remove the consequences and they'll learn.The solution to irresponsible teenage pregnancy is not "let them fuck more without consequences".
>>219759115There are literally studies that have been done that show that women given free access to birth control and counseling on how it works / how to use it had upto 80% lower abortion rate than a control group.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4000282/
>>219759148>The idea for me is to get women over this hump where they are irresponsible teenagers, women in their 20s are much more likely to be able to be responsible about their own reproductive health shit than teenagers.That is not how this works. It is like telling people to go out in your 20's, have "fun" and be wild before settling down and then when these people can't function in relationships because all they've known is having "fun" and being wild wowie zowie, who would've thought that was a bad idea! When you promote immaturity, it makes it so much harder to turn a corner and become mature and know what to look for when you've been practicing wrong up until now.
>>219754255>which OP believes makes her more evil than all the characters that have murdered millions of people including children.Correct statement.
>>219759218>studiesWell I am telling you that Quebec has one of the highest rates despite IUDs being free and promoted everywhere. Not a study but real life.
>>219759218The key is that they have to participate. Practically all women aren't going to want an implant that renders them infertile for half a decade, and obviously those who are given this for free are going to have less immediate abortion rates.I'm saying that if you declared tomorrow any hospital anywhere at any time will give any woman one of these completely and utterly for free, it would have a negligible impact over time. Hardly any women would participate. Those that would be responsible enough to participate in this most likely would have been fine anyway, because they give enough of a fuck to do something about their contraception.
Best thread on /tv/ this month
Anyways I'm going to drop the trvke and bounce:1. Giving women the tools and education to prevent them from getting pregnant until their ready is clearly and obviously the most effective and realistic way to prevent abortion.2. Pro-Life people will NEVER actually support contraceptives as a a way to reduce abortions. Why is that? Because being anti-abortion is not about saving the lives of fetuses, it is about punishing women for having sex. They will never accept an outcome that allows a woman to just have sex without consequences even if it's preventing what they'd supposedly consider LITERAL BABY MURDER. This is because they don't care about fetuses, and just like using that as a talking point.
>>219759282>1. Giving women the tools and education to prevent them from getting pregnant until their ready is clearly and obviously the most effective and realistic way to prevent abortionlol, lmao even>2. Pro-Life people will NEVER actually support contraceptives as a a way to reduce abortions. Why is that? Because being anti-abortion is not about saving the lives of fetuses, it is about punishing women for having sex.so true anon. Just like the handmade's tale!
>>219759238This. You don't make people mature by removing any consequences of immaturity, then just hoping one day they wake up and go "ahh, time to be responsible now!"
>>219759338Translation: women will never become mature, responsible adults unless there are adequate punishments for them having sex
>>219759282>Giving women the tools and education to prevent them from getting pregnant until their ready is clearly and obviously the most effective and realistic way to prevent abortionThey have more of this in scores than they had 50 years ago, and the problem has gotten worse.>They will never accept an outcome that allows a woman to just have sex without consequencesYou do realize that this results in less sex for men too, right?
Don't the Nordic nations have high rates of STDs despite them being heavily socialized govts? Why didn't their free healthcare and education save them bros?
>>219759387children aren't a punishment
Statically most pro-life people are okay with abortions in cases of incest or rape. Why do you think that is? Is it suddenly not murder if the woman was raped? No, it's because abortion is OK if there's no "sexual irresponsibility" to punish the woman for.
>>219759415>You do realize that this results in less sex for men too, right?Not for the people who hold this view generally.
>>219759438>Why do you think that is?Because they're too chickenshit to say that's not ok either. That's it. They hear the word "rape" and cower in fear.
>>219759469Classic female argument.>if you disagree with me, you don't get pussy!!!I accept your concession, hole.
>>219759492Pretty funny that you read into it that way, I mostly meant that for pro-life men, they largely get married young and don't have a lot of anonymous sex, so their prospects are about the same either way. I guess if your prospect is ZERO either way it's the same deal.Anyways thanks for the laugh.
>>219759544Don't you have a rotten hole where your dick used to be that needs dilating?
>my enemies are comic book villains that just hate women. My entire ethos is based around FootlooseHow does one get through life without understanding the theory of the mind of someone different? Is this really the best "empathy" crowd has to offer?
>>219753765The entire thing is ass, the "What if Superman but le ebbil" thing was done decades prior by actual Superman with Ultraman plus a plethora of other comics, manga and movies with villain protagonists, and after that the whole thing became a retarded clusterfuck of other stolen ideas.
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>>219754593Because they can't breed and/or are mentally ill. It's reasonable to not like abortions (I don't and think they should be discouraged at all costs or limited) but you got niggers in here saying that if we banned abortions AND birth control there would be fewer unwanted pregnancies because "women aren't using birth control anyway".
>>219754626It's in the comic. Mark takes an especially long time to come back from the war so Even thinks he might be dead and during that discovers that she's pregnant. She thinks she can't handle the responsibility of being a single mom and doesn't want to shunt the responsibility onto Mark's mom so she gets an abortion.
>>219760062>"What if Superman but le ebbil"If this was still 5 years ago and the story ended at Omni-man's betrayal and turned into a what-if scenario where Nolan murders Mark and turns Earth into a Viltrumite breeding colony but we are way past that point, buddy.
>>219758095>It's unironically evil to kill your own childOkay so other peoples' children is okay, maybe a "Strangers on a Train" thing could be arranged then
>>219758713>Is there a specific reason we need to be subsidizing teenage sex?So people in their 20s aren't having to fuck virgins who are awful in bed
>>219754255And he's right.>>219754979It's their religion. God even denounces them for it in the book of Ezekiel.>>219756424The alive child because IVF doesn't work and is just a scam to convince women they can have a job without missing out on being a Mom.>>219760466> Hey, Debbie. Y'know your son? Yeah, literally your only family member: the one who recently died leaving you alone in the world with no one to love or love you? I'm pregnant with his son, Debbie. Yes, Mark's son! You're only grandchild. You're not going to be alone, Debbie. There's one and only one other person in existence who is now your kin and with their birth not only will you no longer be alone but you'll live to see your bloodline prosper instead of whither into non-existence.> Or at least you would've but I murdered him. Yes, dead. I killed him in cold blood. My own child. Lol, LMAO. He's dead, Debbie. He's dead because I killed him. Tell me I'm brave and did a good job.
>>219761810>fanfictionPut your dick back in your pants.
>>219754073This guy? I thought he died in s1(might be misremembering because I forgot everything about this shitty show)
>>219759184Why yes your faggy Wan Piss reaction image changed our minds
When you abort a baby, they don't just dispose of the remains, they sell the corpses to food processors who use them to make artificial sweeteners.
>>219754255Murder is murder. >>219754593Shut up, hole.
