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What are your favorite movies featuring his material?

Are you stoked for any upcoming works?

What material do you think should receive a /tv/ adaptation?
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I will play the Hellraiser vidya that's coming out
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I like Rawhead Rex, the movie version is fun but also had a non-existent budget and the design of the monster is completely wrong. Would love to see a bigger budget, more faithful adaptation
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>>219759783
This. It's nice that they managed to get Doug Bradley in for it. Hopefully the game itself is not dogshit.
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Candyman > Hellraiser > Nightbreed >>>>>>>>>> Rawhead Rex

but watching Rex trash a room is a special treat
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>>219759760
Hellraider 1 & 2 and Candyman are the best. Hellseeker is the only DTV Hellraiser sequel I liked because it at least had Kirsty and an interesting concept.
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>no mention of Lord of Illusions
>no mention of The Midnight Meat Train
>no mention of new Bryan Fuller show
Frauds, all of you.
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>>219761135
fuck Bryan Fuller, fuck Midnight Meat Train, Lord of Illusions is just okay.
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>>219761135
YOU show your physicals, fraudman
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The implication and great and secret show have been recommended to me by a teacher that loved the dark tower so it's been on the list for over 2 decades. I was terrified of hellraiser 1 and 2 and they are a testament to winging it since Clive barker had never dire ted a movie before.
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Nightbreed would make for a kino anime series. With the right kind of script, The Great and Secret show would also be amazing as a few seasons long HBO show. A great story but would need a lot of editing to flow right. Suprised he remains more or less untapped in this modern age, guess his early run ins with Hollywood left a bad taste in his mouth and he's stayed away since.
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>>219762271
Bryan Fuller is developing a series with Barker, although it hasn't been revealed what it is. Hellraiser is getting a high effort game, and the recent film, the reboot, was of acceptable quality. Some motion there.
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>>219759760
The Books of Blood are pretty good and creative, but it's weird how Barker always manages to shove fetishes or gay shit into every story even if it doesn't really fit the story as a whole.
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>>219763607
Interesting news, I really hope some of it turns out good. Barker is getting old and not many imaginative types left anymore.

>>219766232
That's kind of the joke. It's even funnier when you hear him talk and find out how he lost his voicebox. He's a living example of the horrors he depicts in his writings.
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>>219759760
The original Candyman is the only one I'd call a good film. It improves on the source material: the short story "The Forbidden" found in the Books of Blood. In that version Helen is a middle-class, English art student conducting a photographic study of graffiti in a rough council estate in England, and it is her social class that divides her from the locals. In the film Helen is a similar character, but is now an American slumming it in the projects, and it's her race that sets her apart.

I think the race angle works better for this kind of story, because in Britain the middle-classes are not typically enthralled by the culture of council estates, and they have disparaging names for the people who live in them ("chav", "pramface", etc). Among liberal, middle-class whites in the US however, there has been a longstanding fascination with ghetto blacks, sometimes an appropriation of their culture (borrowing from Ebonics, for example), and the old slurs against them are strictly taboo. So, I find film-Helen more believable than book-Helen. As well as that, the film adds Tony Todd, Virginia Madsen, and the Philip Glass score, and all elevate the material. I usually don't like Glass's repetitive doo-duh-doo-duh style, but his Candyman theme is really good.
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>>219767634
>muh race
yanks are so tiresome
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>>219759961
is it by Gun, the same people behind F13 and TCM games? It could be good but they will automatically run it into the ground. Have a lot of fond memories whipping the card through trails on Crystal Lake, blasting Lil Pump through the proximity chat and trolling Jasons
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>>219767634
Candyman is just a great film in general except I do like the short story.
I don't like one more than the other, I treat them as separate instances entirely.
It's a really good film though. Has some of the best filmed shots in any movie ever.


The OG Hellraiser also deserves more credit as I get older. I know it's rated well, very well.
it deserves even more.
the style, the effort for such a lower budget film, the acting.
Andrew Robison also is one of the best actors of all time and IDK we never got a lot more of him. He threw away almost the entire dialogue for the movie and winged almost everything.
Including the infamous "jesus wept" that has been used by every shock rock, industrial, and horror alternative band as a sample.

>Enough of the cat and mouse shit
I watched an interview with him a long time ago that I can't find anywhere. Where he said paraphrased "Clive wanted me to be the badguy, badguys don't pretend." so he spent the Frank part of the movie roleplaying he was going to rape Kirstie in his mind or some shit.
Not just act it, but actually think about it. Ham it up. Talk about some method acting.
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>>219767718
It's by Saber Interactive. They made Space Marine 2 and John Carpenter's Toxic Commando.

https://saber.games/hellraiserrevival/
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>>219767830
>a long time ago
Yeah that must have been long ago. The press would go apeshit if an actor said that today.

I liked Hellraiser when it was new-ish and I was a kid (I'm pretty old), but I was disappointed watching it again. One problem is that although there were only 5 years between Hellraiser and Candyman and both use practical effects, Hellraiser looks MUCH more dated. That's partly because two of the Cenobites – Butterball and Chatterer – have prosthetic and mostly inanimate faces like the cantina aliens of Star Wars '77. And let's not forget the shit Engineer at the end, which takes us deep into Rawhead Rex territory. Some parts of Barker's vision just weren't achievable on a low budget in the 80s. But because Candyman is more grounded, and doesn't really have monsters in it (unless you count nu-Helen in the final scene), it doesn't share Hellraiser visual defects.
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I would really like any kind of adaption of Abarat. I think an animated series would suit it best, though.
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>>219759760
I like Nightbreed. So there.
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>>219759760
Lord of Illusions is criminally underrated
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>>219771709
i like real magician pretend secret society shit more than that movie delivers
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Would love to see Steven Kostanski get his hands on some Barker. Even better, though: Zack Snyder adapting Jericho.
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I always wanted to see an adaptation of In the Hills, the Cities.
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>>219759760
I was a big fan of his stuff when I was younger, but he completely fell off and seems to prefer taking it in his ass to writing.
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>>219775583
Yea I was so hyped when I found out he had a new book coming out and it was a romance novel with the Kennedy family women get blacked throughout history, I was out.
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>>219761264
Is the series actually happening?
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>>219773149
I don't think it could work, it is too easy to fuck up. I would like a good adaptation of dread instead of the piece of shit they made
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>>219770763
You're forgetting the part where candyman opens up his chest and he is a literal skeleton fyi.

however yeah the first hellraiser is super dated, but they didn't really have the options.
clive was already greatly in debt by the movie and only really became a success because of how good it went for the series.
in reality had it made even 1/4th less its budget basically Candyman would have never happened.

With his fame as a storyteller, helping write the scripts, etc.
Candyman was a success.

also based Nightbreed enjoyers in thread.
My dad use to show me the movie all the time and it's how I realized he was some into some dark shit now that i'm an adult enough to compare our ages.



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