Episode 5 “The Grand Design” airs tonight at 6pm pst, 9pm est.Episode 4 Thread >>219476203Episode 4 Recap>bullseye has an apartment and is going by ‘Tony’>baits avtf into diner by saying he spotted punisher with a gun, avtf gets there and bullseye kills them>Karen gets witnesses to testify on video. (White tigers wife and the northern star first mate)>Swordsman leaves but gives Karen a bank account number and will fund DD and Karen’s revolt>mini white tiger takes the SD card from the witness recording and gives it to the latino kid from the deli robbery scene in episode 2>Fisk warns Vanessa to not go to the fight>Officer Powell storms in Kirstins office looking for Swordsman>While Buck and Fisk discuss what went wrong on the Northern Star, Mr. Charles shows up and puts Fisk in his place>Mr. Charles brings out 2 dudes with guns and Buck one taps both of them, giving Mr. Charles a wink before leaving with Fisk >Karen and Kirstin meet up >Vanessa meets with the Governor and the Governor likes Vanessa more than Fisk, although admits she is confused on why Vanessa is with him>Matt takes the AVTF outfit and goes undercover at the bullseye diner scene>Finds a coin from the nearby church>Goes to the church and finds out Dex lives nearby>Follows Dex home>Kino fight and it’s implied Dex made Matt his new hyperfixation and he wants to make things right for killing Foggy, and in return will kill Fisk to 'help' Matt.>Dex leaves to Fisk’s fight on a scooter and Matt chases him there>Dex gets there after Fisk wins the fight, kills the AVTF>As Dex is throwing a glass at Fisk, Vanessa shoots Dex>Fisk breaks the glass and we get a slow reveal that a glass shard is lodged in Vanessa’s temple >Daredevil and Bullseye escape>Final shot is Vanessa laying down and bleeding. (No hard confirmation on if she is alive or dead)Episode 5 is expected to be the flashback episode in which Foggy Nelson and Wesley will return.
>>219760114How much does daredevil and Fisk have the show
>>219760151Enough screen time to where you aren't wondering where they are
when does jessica jones show up we are halfway through the season and all we have is 1 name drop
So why does Bullseye keep a gun around his chest if he isn't going to use it on Kingpin, Vanessa, or the Punisher cops?
>>219760193I meant hate this show*
IT'S TIME
>>219760477Body armor, duh
BB AND DANIEL SHIPPERS WE FINALLY MADE IT WOOO SEXOO TIME SOON
when's froggy comin back
>>219760820He's in this episode, for a lot of it so far surprisingly
>Buck and Wesley knew eachothernice, this tickled the nostalgia part of my brain
"The Mayonnaise?"Tiny Sopranos character is so fucking funny man, gonna feel bad when Buck pops him at the end of the season.
>Vanessa died because Kingpin immediately fed her something she was allergic to as soon as she woke upWelp can't blame Bullseye for that
BRING BACK THE NETFLIX LOOK FOR S3 GOD PLEAASE!
WHY WOULD YOU SHOW ME THE NETFLIX VISUAL LOOK WITH THE FLASHBACKS IF I CAN'T HAVE IT, FUCK YOU.
I like that they are finally using the netflix lore and characters and not being ashamed of them like they were last born again season
>>219760999They're building up his character a lot because he's supposed to be a mainstay, he's also going to be in S3.
>>219761395this LOL how fucking gay was it that they fixed the lighting only for the flashbacks
>>219760114New ephttps://gofile.io/d/3iqC3q
>>219761778Better Call Saul and the Dexter revivals did the same thing where flashbacks to their original series look 1:1 to how they were originally despite the new series having a different look.
Men will look at this and think fuck yeah
>>219761395Shut up about it, he looked like a dork. God damn.
It was super baffling to see the flashbacks in this ep. They know how to shoot in that style, they just choose to make Born Again look like shit on purpose
>Fisk basically killed Vanessa twicekek
link>>219761815Thank you.
The nice thing about foggy dying is that canonically it happened so much longer after the s3 finale that there is all of the thanos snap years and like 4 years post-hulk-snap where we can get matt foggy and karen flashbacks. just because foggy is currently dead doesn't mean they have to completely forget about the story and he can still be used in new ways
>First you try to kill me, then you try to save me. And I'm the one that needs help?KINOOOOOOOO
>>219762057Mike Colter spoiled that BA S3 will be covering Devil in Cell Block D, a comic storyline where Foggy seemingly dies but turns out to have been in witness protection the entire time.
>>219762155Anon Matt heard his heard stop beating. He went to the funeral. MCU foggy is dead. Unless the hand resurrect him or spiderman tells matt about dr strange and the time stone, you're not seeing Foggy in present day MCU.
>>219762196Yeah it's 90% likely he's dead but I always keep an open mind, and also I enjoy the memes.
Great episode. Easily the best of Born Again. Reminded me of the Netflix series
>>219762335I think Ep 4 captured how thrilling and tense the original show was while Ep 5 was the opposite, actually soaking in the conversations and building up instead of just rushing to the next plot point.
>>219762155I completely forgot that him being in prison was just a leak and that it was actually a huge spoiler in the picture. But also it's going to be really dumb when in Brand New Day Spider-man is fighting The Hand in a prison and we still won't have Matt show up.
Matt in this season doesn't feel right. All his scenes feel like he's a fake person, its so weird.Wasn't Matt the idealist of the Foggy/Matt duo? In the flashback, why was it Foggy who had to do the "everyone deserves a right to defense against the law" when that's very clearly something Matt would and does say all the time in the Netflix series?
So next week's episode is the Jessica Jones teamup right?
>>219762417Matt was fine with the guy going to prison because he actually did commit his crimes (unlike Karen or the others where he knew they were framed or being fucked over by some larger conspiracy).
>>219762417I recall a tweet that summed it up best as "Matt already went through everything in the original show so at this point it's moreso about him sticking to his values without breaking his principles", although the prison arc has a lot of potential to do new stuff for his character.
>>219762392Agreed. The slower pace what was I felt was missing and I’m happy to see the old sensibilities
>>219761980For the love of god please let season 3 shot in the Netflix style again I am so sick of Born Again's visual. I mean letterbox powers are fine, but the lighting, the fog, the color grading is grating.
>Karen doesnt have a single line of dialogue >Episode is goodI wonder how these 2 things are connected...Please Dex, finish the fucking job
>>219762417His best friend and life partner was murdered in front of him and he couldn't do anything about it, it's understandable he's still quite fucked up about it, especially when god literally has him save the guy that murdered foggy and told him to his face he has no remorse.I'm really glad they brought back his faith again, it's a really important part of his character
>daredevil is a feetfagdropped, they ruined my favorite superhero
For I second I thought the bitch was gonna survive. Thank fuck
>>219762196Matt heard his heart stop in the comic storyline too.
Foggy?More like Fatty!
>>219762785I actually had to think how Fisk was going to navigate his life with a braindead Vanessa, truth be told I think it would be really ballsy to go that route, but thematically her dying makes the most sense for this storyline
>Matt likes feetBased on wikifeet:>Deborah Ann Woll: 4.93>Elodie Yung: 4.98>Rosario Dawson: 4.96>Tatiana Maslany: 4.85>Margarita Levieva: 4.9Elektra is best girl
>>219762401The last three episodes are probably going to be adapting Murdock Papers, Kingpin just exposing Matt's identity to the public now that Vanessa is gone. In one of the TV spots, we see Matt attending a trial as himself.
>>219761877How do i bullseye maxx bros
>>219763248>Get OCD>Establish a strict routine you follow everyday>Make sure to eat healthy and exercise regularly
>>219763282Thanks. Will it help me get a job? I've been unemployed for a year. I do have a compsci degree and 15 months of work experience previously.
>daredevil is a feetfagInsta-sub, he's literally me.
>>219763453How nice is heather
are we supposed to hate bullseye when he lured a bunch of not-ICE agents together and killed them?
He looks like a clown
>>219763282You forgot to constantly practice no-spin throwing with various blades and utensils and pitching random objects. When you start sinking forks into targets and bouncing objects between surfaces into containers, you know you're almost there. t. dexmaxxer
>>219763248I've been dexmaxxing for a while now, other anon has the right idea, only you need to develop BPD, not OCD. Then practice no-spin throwing with blades, spikes, and various utensils. Practice pitching both with balls and random objects. Hardest part is bouncing shit reliably between surfaces and then into your intended target, but every time you pull it off you'll cum your pants.
Thank you 4chan for the errors that caused my double post of two drafts of the same fucking thing. I hate everyone working on this site.
>>219762834>Fembot.Why?
Never drink pineapple juice with ice
>>219763812Did Fisk really killed Vanessa with pineapple juice or did her brained just took some time to turn into mush?
Never believing in leakers ever again. They made it seem like this whole episode was going to be Matt and dex talking it out on the church. Pricks.
That jew that spoiled vanessa dying on youtube
>>219763906Brain freeze
>Matt is a footfagBased
>>219763778I will just treat it as a censor and assume he was calling him Foggy the faggot
>>219760114Okay
>>219764053There was some of that (Bullseye's monologue about their addiction to what they do was really good) but it was primarily a Vanessa/Foggy-centric episode
why did bullseye suddenly decide to take his hand
>>219761875Thank you Wesley
>>219764962It's a guy thing, you wouldn't understand
why do they insert sex and degen kinks and fetishes into everything? is a woman writing this show?
>>219762450apparently she's just in the last 2 episodes which would be 7 and 8
>>219764962because he finally got matt to admit that he is helping him out of guilt since he tried to kill him before
>tony jr confessing that he was leaking shit to buck because he was scared shitless buck was going to kill him even though that wasn't his intentionthat was good
The episode without an unnecessary fight, no karen, and no angela white tiger was good? Shocker.
>>219767224who did they bury at the end, the reporter Buck told to fuck off?
>>219767340nvm i see now its the first mate, though idk why they'd only bury him and not also the two glowies that were accompanying him
>>219767340Christopher Moltisanti I mean Christofi Savva the first mate of the northern star
>>219762957Earlier though Kingpin says it would be a bad idea to out Matt as DD because then he would be considered a hero since he saved the mayor from an assassination attempt in street clothes.>>219764053To be fair it was like a third of the episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDlQQuC-Awk
>>219761875THANK YOU WESLEY
What are they doing next season?
>>219768145has to mean the hand is back, especially since we see them in brand new day trailer
>>219767106he literally admits this 10 minutes before they arrive at the church. so seriously, why does he suddenly take his hand?
>>219768291Nah I think they're saving The Hand for S4, where presumably they'll do Shadowlands.
>>219761875*inhales* when i was a boy.. i.. thanked... wesley
>>219768296Words are one thing but actions are another. Matt DID leave him and was going to let him die, but Matt couldn't live with that so he ran back for bullseye. Mercy. Because Foggy taught him that, that was the whole point of the flashback.
>>219768347Yes I know Matt's motivations. Matt was also carrying him about 20 blocks while injured himself, so he has already proven he wants to save him out of guilt. Bullseye literally tells him to fuck off and let him die, suddenly he wants to live? I don't think there's any way around that weird writing
>>219763906It was Shaggy, he knew Fisk would be easier to control without her. Scoob poisoned the juice with doggy biscuits.
this was so retarded because hospitals and nurses have a file of what you are and aren't allergic to
>>219768688What? She didn't die from allergy. it seems she had a stroke after surgery
I was half expecting the corpse inside the trunk of the car to be BB gagged and bound and Johnny Soprano having to show where his loyalties reside by sending that rat masked tuber to sleep with the hibernating mutant alligator men of Newark's Dr. Connor's Wild Life Reserve.
A reviewer for the latest episode spilled that the next ep opens with Kingpin killing Vanessa's surgeon by shattering his spine.
>>219768968I thought the same thing.
>>219768805she went into shock from the allergic reaction... she literally said pineapples make her lips feel tingly which is an obvious sign of an allergy
>>219768145baiting nostalgiabecause at this point people would unironically rather see netflix iron fist than anyone from the movies
>>219769408I want to see Spider Man in this show
>>219769468I suspect we’ll get a reference in the last episode to lead into the movie. I’d be shocked if he actually appears
>>219769576contractually he can't appear in movies, well he can but it would need a contract re-negotiation and sony has made it clear they don't want him in live action tv shows. It's much more likely that daredevil is in brand new day than it would be for spidey to be in born again
>>219769339I think most people assumed that, it makes sense as something Fisk would make him do to prove his fealty while also removing one of his problems from the equation. I don’t think he’s Richard Fisk but they definitely want some parallel there.
>>219769468>Spider ManIt will turn the show into slapstick comedy. No.
>"I'm sorry, only one of us is getting out of this. I can't save us both.">"never mind yes I can"what was the point of that
>>219769942>walks out>walks back in>walks back out with bullseyechurch layout is insane
as much as I like bullseye in this show, making him be a weird good guy is the wrong move in the long run and he's either going to die or just go back to being a villain and the time they wasted on his "redemption" will have been pointless
>>219770055They are just going to make him a mercenary and paid hitman
>>219761877This show is so fucking retarded man. *Kills innoocence at the news paper*Tries to Kill Karen multiple times*Kills Foggy*Kills ray nadeemNah fuck it. Let's do a team up because that would be epic.
I need Ayelet Zurers Jewish Israeli granny toes around my small brown willy (I'm a /tv/ simp that posts pictures of womeme in threads)
i knew buck gonna pull that shit, BB so fucking dumb man. that fatfuck daniel gave her enough chance
>>219768688>>219768805>>219769367Is it possible she killed herself? She was questioning why Fisk was acting all lovey dovey. Didn't she hire Bullseye to kill Foggy, to piss off Daredevil, to make Daredevil make Fisk life hard again because she was bored of Fisk going straight and making everything work out smoothly?
>>219770204Matt can always tell when people are lying an so he knows Bullseye is -00% sincere in wanting to reform. His Catholic guilt won’t let him abandon someone genuinely looking to reform
>>219770204He isn't giving Fisk or Bullseye the satisfaction of killing eachother. >>219770498I feel like Buck secretly leaked the stuff himself just so that he can blame Daniel since he had a reputation for leaking stuff.
>>219770718>Matt can always tell when people are lyingHe still smashed Dex's face into a table when Dex said he had infomation on the death of Foggy(I guess his lie detector failed). You and the writers are retards.
>>219770956That’s because Matt behaving like a neanderthal was necessary so Bullseye could escape. There was definitely no other way they could have written him out of jail.
If season 3 doesn't have the full screen aspect ratio, I may not watch
idk how I feel about our guy actually becoming one of the good guys... hope Karen goes apeshit and everything goes back to the status quo
>>219770956Yea? That's the realization that Fisk killed Foggy (breaking their deal from s3) so he just lashed out on the retard that got manipulated.
>>219771954was expecting karen to smack either one of them when he rolled into the hideout
>>219772041You're genuinely autistic
>>219772041Matt was a little more upset
>>219763778>>219764669>Faggyooh that makes a lot more sensethanks 4chan
>>219763337I'm coming up to a year of unemployment it fucking sucks.
>>219771905Dex was deliberately provoking him. How fucking dumb can you get?
I want to lick Karen's feet
>>219767362I'm guessing Buck could've handled all the cleanup on his own, and did take care of the glowies, but decided to test Soprano to see if he could be initiated into the dirtier dealings of Fisk.>>219771954They're obviously not doing that. Bullseye's arc is likely to end with him getting over his Fisk grudge and just becoming a mercenary to kill for the hell of it. If he's not allowed to die, then he has to find some way to continue doing his thing. He's compelled to do so, and his arc is being set up so that he'll feel good about it instead of self-loathing.
What did they mean by this?
I'm starting to come to terms with Foggy dying. While I'd much prefer if he was alive, I want the writers to twist the knife making us remember the massive loss of Foggy, and for him to haunt the narrative. Latest episode did just thatI need another flashback involving Matt, Foggy and Karen before I can say goodbye to Foggy for good
i didnt watch netflix season 3so what the fuck was bullseye bitching about last episode? why the fuck he hates vanessa so bad?? what is that thing she made him do?
>>219773560>>219775407footdevil
>>219775525killing foggywhich happened last season, not in the netflix run
>>219775525>fisk took his julie so he wants to take her vanessa>vanessa gaslit him into killing his coworker, agent nadeem>gets sent to a mental asylum and gets medicated to zombieland>vanessa takes advantage of him when he could barely even sign his name or speak a sentence>made him murder foggy and foggy's client>while doing life in prison, vanessa gets him moved to gen pop knowing his past as an fbi agent which is a death wish
