>”Mordor is too powerful we must join with them”>most of the threat comes from Uruk-Hai (which Saruman made) and the coalition of evil factions that has allied with Mordor>the actual orcs under Mordor’s control are complete fodderJeez what a plot hole. Tolkien must’ve thought we were retarded.
Why didn't the eagles make their own rings?
>most of the threat comes from Uruk-Hai No most of the threat comes from Mordor.
>>219801765He looks like Asmongold
>>219801765What if Sauron Man didn't switch and the uruk-hai joined forces with the humans? Would've it been a sweep?
>>219801765I can't recall if exact figures are ever given, but it's at least implied that Mordor's forces number in the hundreds of thousands. The only reason Isengard is the more immediate threat earlier in the series is because Sauron's army is still mobilizing.
>>219801859What if the Uruk-Hai rode the Ents into Mordor?
>>219801765Anon the threat was Mordor's sheer number. Rohan and Gondor combined still wasn't big enough. Not to mention Mordor had Nazguls flying around.
Tax policy?
>no mention of Easterlings or SouthronsSauron had hundreds of thousands of orcs on top of hundreds of thousands of brown humans helping him. He was far more powerful than Saruman who only had the hill tribes and Uruk-hai.
>>219801765Wait a second was Christopher Lee's character in LOTR basically just Count Dooku?
>>219801950I said coalition of “evil factions” which of course includes the brown people
>>219801765Saruman was trying to pull off a Sima Yi maneuvre on Sau Sau but it was ruined by gandolf the tool
Tolkien was too busy daydreaming about the next time he could take it in the ass. This whole series is one of the gayest things of all time.
>>219801765Orcs aren’t fodder and are actually very disciplined when lead by competent commanders who literally whip them into submission. The movies making them fodder is for cinematic purposes.
>>219801765>Uruks outnumber Uruk-hai 5-1 minimum>Mordor orc are well-organized and decently equipped from the biggest factory in fantasy history>Mountain box>Nazgul>Olog-hai>Unspeakable eldritch horrors>Several nations of men>Paleolithic elephants>Top 10 most powerful Maiar vs 5 with elderly mortal bodies and instructions to not reveal any real power>4 ft mace
>>219801983Frodo was the first twink protag of a fantasy book
>>219801989>>219801765actually if you watch the third movie the Mordor orcs do fine, and btfo Gondor in every equal fight, they only lose due to the OP cavalry and then absolutely broken ghost army. There is no scene where a Gondor soldier even lands a hit on an orc, not one.
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>>219801940Like any evil empire, it taxes its subjects on payment of income, on purchases, on holding property, and on inheritance. Every opportunity. Thank goodness there's no such great evil in our world.
>>219801950>hundreds of thousands of internal threats as well as hundreds of thousands of browns preparing to invade. Wow, Sauron himself doesn't have shit on democrats. They're moving each of these in the tens of millions.
>>219801940Everything belongs to Sauron, as he’s the God King and you are his personal property. Think a Congolese tribesman in King Leopolds Congo Free state. Taxes are in the form of labor you WILL perform building monuments for the dark lord.
>>219802171He’s doing them perfectly legally as H1Bs labor Saar
DEM RANGS DEM RANGS, AW LAWDY, DEM RANGS!
>>219801765In the books Sauron made the first Black Uruks/Uruk-hai and in general had a much larger force than Saruman, who only controlled one tower and the surrounding region. Saruman bit off more than he could chew and fully committed hisnekite but relatively small Uruk legion to Helm's Deep because he wanted to prove his value as an ally and potential second in command to Sauron.
>>219801765>Uruk hai outnumber the fellowship 10:1 at Amon Hen >Half get killed, the other half run for literally days to get away but at least they got Boromir>Uruk hai outnumber Theoden 20:1 at Helms deep >Siege lasted one night before retreating, got ambushed by trees>Evenly numbered with orcs in Cirith Ungol>Somehow they all die, Sam kills the surviving orcsWhy did Denethor never use the Palantir to call Saruman an idiot?
>>219801859Yes, Saruman would have rallied the other wizards and all five of them would have curb stomped Mordor's forces so bad that Frodo could have walked in easily. Sauron was lucky that 4/5 wizards lost their way
Why didn’t Saruman ally with the ents ?
>>219801848too much hair to be asmon
>>219801880Kek
>>219801765Did he get the idea to make Orthanc home from looking at his staff?
>Fellowship of the Ring >9 members >4 are hobbits Literally any random elf in Rivendell would’ve been more help
>>219801765it isn't as clear in the moviebut Saruman wasn't trying to team up with Sauron, he was doing it for himselfhe was trying to get the ring before Sauronin the book he was expected to get in a battle with Sauron, until the Ents fucked his plans up
>>219802475nah, they could have only defeated Sauron if they had the ringSaruman never would have nor could ever have let Frodo destroy ithell even Frodo couldn't destroy it either, he decided to keep the ring in the end
>>219803166Saruman's literal mission as given to the wizards by God himself was to help the humans find and destroy the ring. So yes, he fucking would have. They just took thousands of years to find it and all went crazy during that time which is why Saruman turned and decided he wanted to use it instead.
>>219803166> hell even Frodo couldn't destroy it either, he decided to keep the ring in the endReally makes Elrond look like a stupid bitch even more so dontit
>>219803204>Gandalfys explicit mission to find ring>doesn’t have details of ring committed to memory and has to spend 10 years researching itMore plot holesfts (for Tolkien’s sake)
>>219801955take this gold kind stranger!!!
>>219802063>>219801983stay in /trash/ faggots
