I am not those men. I am Salahudin. Sala-hu-din.
Why didn't Salad Dean starve out the city and save thousands of his men from dying
This movie was such shit. Ahistorical mudslime apologism and anti christian propaganda. Frankly pure fanfiction, its astonishing how much character assassination occurs in this movie. Guy's wife never left his side. Balian went with the crusaders. He was born in the holy land and lived a long live there. He never saw France. Saladin enslaved the population of Jerusalem after Balian and the Bishop of Jerusalem spent everything they owned to free as much as possible.Awesome battle scenes though.
>>219823314Seething christcuck
>>219823314The crusaders were a bunch of dirty thieves who lied to the Byzantine emperor by sending 10x more men for the sole purpose of establishing Catholic rump states in Byzantine territory and weakening the orthodox church. Shit like this is what eventually led to the Byzantine empire falling to the Ottomans. Christians have always been incompetent morons. That's why the enlightenment and Renaissance happened in spite of it.
>>219823314Trve.
>>219823392>makes shit up and passes it as "history"Hmm, there's anther group well known for doing that. Starts with a j and ends with an ews.
>>219823449muslims never got a renaissance lmao
>>219823224Eva Green is in this film. >>219823314I see your point anon and it's valid. It's just that Eva Green is in this film.
>>219823449>The crusaders were a bunch of dirty thieves who lied to the Byzantine emperor by sending 10x more men for the sole purpose of establishing Catholic rump states in Byzantine territory and weakening the orthodox church.Meds.>incompetent moronsThat's the Byzantines. The West went on to conquer the globe.
>>219823224Well I am Sala-hala-din.Sala-hala-hala-din.
>>219823314nigga, even christians in the middle ages looked up to Saladin and he became a role model for how a model king should look like. Richard I also praised him. Even the famously spiteful Dante considered him a virtuous non-christian in Limbo. the issues with this movie being ahistorical is indeed true but to believe the point of the movie "christians bad, muslims good" shit is ridiculous, but this is your brain on /pol/ i suppose.
>>219823482holy hecking florp my fellow kekistani so florping BASED!! Kek!!! Legalize comedy!!!
>>219823608Meds explored the earth. Not dirty germcucks. They came after stealing secrets on the passages and such.
>Give me some waterhow do you respond without sounding mad
>>219823517They had a golden age. Ended by the Mongol conquests though. They never recovered until the Ottomans and even the Ottoman golden age ended with their defeat at Vienna.
>>219823449Even without the crusades the Byzantines were doomed anyway, if anything the Crusader states gave Byzantium some breathing room
>>219824239>defeat at Vienna.After Suleiman the Ottoman Empire was going downhill and couldn't compete with European countries and their technology, of course colonization was always of out of question for the Ottomans. Vienna was just a symptom of the problem
>>219824465I guess but Vienna was the final nail in the coffin. After the Great Turkish War, the Ottomans were never a threat to Europe again outside of the Balkans.
>>219823224Saladin is cool but Baybars mogs him as a commander and had a bigger impact on global history
>>219824062I would tell her “Everyone who drinks this water will get thirsty again and again. Anyone who drinks the water Jesus Christ gives will never thirst—not ever"I would tell Eva Green that specifically while giving her water to drink, because I'd want that for her.
>>219825021Then she would tell you "Wow, you're creepy"
>>219825153That's only because your neck fat would be blocking the sun.
The supporting characters in this were just unreal levels of keeno, so much that I can almost get over my hatred for Bloom and his shitty acting>Repeating digits are to come for what took place 100 bane threads ago.
>>219823224Saladin sucks cocks in hell
>Le Crusades bad>Muzzies good, judaism goodTypical hollywood shlop
>>219826086Ridley is a fucking hack.
>>219823314>>219823449>>219823964>>219826086>>219826252Were you there? No? Then shut the fuck up
>>219825762
>>219826329I shall tell your father what I've seen you become
I wish Ridley still made good movies like this. I've rewatched it over 100 times now, it's just that good.
>>219823280No supply line, lack of drinkable water, a prolonged siege would have killed more of his men
>>219825992Another seething christcuck
>>219826715The Last Duel came out in 2021 and is really good
did Saladin really speak english
>>219827244How else would he watch YouTube?
>>219823482>he's actually from /pol/
>>219823482>Starts with a j and ends with an ews.Jackscrews?
Desu Vult>>>/wsg/6129939
>>219823314is this you, corny ass nigga?https://youtu.be/YCbfaassDxA?si=aOitOFR45iGe4ULp
>>219823224Muslims brutally sacked and pillaged the Christian city of Ani, slaughtering a large portion of the inhabitants and enslaving the rest. This was decades before the first Crusade.
Even the crusaders had some respect for Saladin because he wasn't entirely unreasonable and behaved with decorum. He was not, by modern standards, a good man, and he was at war and did some shady shit. For example. Saladin tries to fleece Richard the Lionhearted in a prisoner exchange, basically trying to trade peasants for valuable soldiers while keeping all the noble hostages as prisoners. Richard massacred many of his prisoners to show Saladin he wasn't fucking around. Saladin responded by killing a bunch of his prisoners too. The crusaders came to respect Saladin because he was actually willing to treat with them on even footing and was even fairly magnanimous. Rather than act like a violent ape, he agreed to a white peace with the crusaders that benefitted both parties. Saladin is fondly remembered by Muslims for being a good King and "defeating" the third crusade (which was in truth, a draw, as both parties gave concessions and did not complete all of their military goals). Saladin's empire, the Ayyubids, almost immediately collapsed into infighting between his family. But he was good while he lasted.Saladin being a fairly reasonable, but still conquest-driven (not just of crusader lands but of other muslims) king does not magically erase the many bloody jihads. History is complicated.
>>219823224What is Jerusalem to you Salahudin?
>>219823314Christcuck seething again that they’re not always the goodest of boys.
>>219823224What ever happens, Sala-chud-in?
>>219830165nta, and I'm not a christian either, but let's not pretend that islam isn't the shitbull of religion.
>>219829522Historical stockholm syndrome. If its true that the jews were the 1st to live in that area. The muslim empire had no reason to be there. The crusades shouldnt have been needed to take it back from them in the first place. Ever since Islams inception, its been about ransacking other peoples countries and forcing their beliefs on them.
>>219830243nobody is pretending it isnt and neither is the movie really. just that saladin is a noble and honourable man, which even medieval europeans considered him to be.
Who says I raid?
>>219823314>700 years later and still asspainedI will send you my physicians.
>>219823314youre an idiot who thinks he knows what he is talking about. you dont.>>219823449somewhat right>>219824390wrong it was thriving and began going to shit once Manuel I accepted a western wife
>>219823314Holy shit. Christcuck is seething.
>>219823224Salad hadn't
>>219823535Damn, she looked old af even back then.
>>219826329Thewlis was great.
>>219826329Kino
>>219831712Little to no make up anon. She's a 10 in more than just the looks department.
For all the fat underachievers spamming this thread with "Hurr lel Christian seething cuck"I fucking hate troll farms and ai bots post this shit all the time. 4chan has been wrecked by these assholes.
Whoever is stalking my web activity I'm going to find your office and sue the fuck out of you, or worse. Stop now or pay the price.
What is with historical Ridley Scott moving turning their protagonists into absolute chads who embody the best American ideals despite the time period they live in while the villains are comically spiteful and insecure virgins who feel threatened by the protags aura that they get them defamed or killed for no reason?
>>219823314Saladin was pretty based and a good leader, even if he was the enemy. I would like to think that way, but I also rage at people who beat me at Age of Empires and call them fags in chat, so I don't know how I'd be if I lost real men in battle against some faggot, but I could understand at least the concept of honor. If I captured him in battle I'd definitely have him spared and brought back to be a teacher to royal children or something and treat him well. I don't know where I was going with this but some enemies are worth respect and some aren't.
>>219832158That's just standard practice anon. Since the dawn of time people have used historical backdrops to comment on [current year]. Ridley was using the Crusades to comment on the Iraq War, Homer was using the Illiad to comment on Iron Age Greece.
>>219823314>>219823392>>219826715>>219830369>>219831650But controversy immediately emerged even because of this agreement. While the vast majority of the Christian population of Jerusalem were able to pay the ransom and leave, not all could, and thousands of Christians were left behind to be claimed as slaves by the Muslim conquerors. The Christian women and girls were then, according to Imad ad-Din, subjected to mass rape by Saladin’s soldiers.“Women and children together came to 8,000 and were quickly divided up among us, bringing a smile to Muslim faces at their lamentations. How many well-guarded women were profaned, how many queens were ruled, and nubile girls married and noble women given away, and miserly women forced to yield themselves, and women who had been kept hidden stripped of their modesty and serious women made ridiculous, and women kept in private now set in public, and free women occupied, and precious ones used for hard work, and pretty things put to the test, and virgins dishonoured and proud women deflowered, and lovely women’s red lips kissed, and dark women prostrated, and untamed ones tamed and happy ones made to weep. How many noblemen took them as concubines, how many ardent men blazed for one of them, and celibates were satisfied by them, and thirsty men sated by them and turbulent men able to give vent to their passion….”
I am sardine man
>>219832715This sounds more like a guy writing his cuck fetish erotica than a reliable historical account.
>>219823449>Shit like this is what eventually led to the Byzantine empire falling to the OttomanRetarded propaganda revisionism slop. Byzantium was a degenerate failing shithole that was about to lose to the Turks anyways. Crusaders gave them 300 more years that they squandered.
>>219823608>The West went on to conquer the globe.Facts.
>>219832715Obvious Christ cuck propaganda. Reminds me of jews going off the rails with their holocaust stories.
>>219832715Heh. Nigger navy
>>219823964Funny thing is; West (France, Spain, Italy etc.) back in the day completely romanticed him because he embodied chivalry and well used soft power. The Islamists didnt care of him at all, they thought he was weak and wasted time negotiating with the Crusading States. To Egyptians he was Kurdi conqueror and to Syria he was nepotic sunni who Order of Hasasshins tried to get rid of twice.He mostly came to fame later; one part bieng Dante's Inferno.>>219826086The movie didn't even scrape the atrocities the Crusading States did, they painted Reunaud de Chatillon a mustache twiling bloodthirsty asshole.... because he was. This guy had supreme hate towards muslims; so far he went to the fucking Cyprus, raped and pillaged the monasteries there to fund his own war effort. Even Christians hated his cut. This guy wanted the True Cross back so bad he launched a campaign to go into Medea where Muhammad was buried to go and steal his corpse.t. screenwriter
>>219833172>t. screenwriteroh yeah? Sell any scripts?
>>219823964>"christians bad, muslims good" shit is ridiculous, but this is your brain on /pol/ i suppose.the point is that muslims and desert people are savages and are portrayed to the contrary. you have similar themes in lawrence of arabia obviously, but the individuals are whats standing out, as a whole theyre little people, a silly people. its not just salahadin being represented as smart and humanist, but every single one. i do love the movie myself for a multitude of reasons, but its very much a hollywood film with fantasy writing all over.
>>219833271I'm a screenwriter, not screenseller
>>219832983It was written by a Muslim though.
>>219833172>This guy had supreme hate towards muslims; so far he went to the fucking Cyprus, raped and pillaged the monasteries there to fund his own war effort. Even Christians hated his cut.>Most information on Raynald's life was recorded by Muslim authors, who were hostile to him.[154]
>>219823280because he was paying for the army out of his own pocket (unusual for the time) and that would have been extremely expensive
>>219823280And what would his army drink for the several years it would take?
>>219832715Meanwhile when Christians took Jerusalem...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Jerusalem_(1099)Just to give you a picture, even contemporary CHRISTIAN witnesses wrote it was bestial and unnecessarily brutal and rampant. I'd also like to emphasize they also massacred other Christians living in the city at the time.
>>219835158ha
>>219834435That picture of Vesper gets posted so much. I always felt the no makeup pics of Eva Green were superior.
Is this movie good or is it just “they made my side look bad so this movie is terrible”
>>219837332it's literally the best medieval movie ever made, we will never see anything like it ever made again by hollywood
>>219835887https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ani_(1064)Before the Crusades, Muslims had been attacking and raiding Christian lands. The Muslim Seljuk Turks in 1064 sieged and sacked the Armenian capital city of Ani.According to a Muslim Turkish Chronicler:"The army entered the city, massacred its inhabitants, pillaged and burned it, leaving it in ruins and taking prisoner all those who remained alive...The dead bodies were so many that they blocked the streets; one could not go anywhere without stepping over them. And the number of prisoners was not less than 50,000 souls. I was determined to enter the city and see the destruction with my own eyes. I tried to find a street in which I would not have to walk over the corpses; but that was impossible."
>>219837392>it's literally the best medieval movie ever made, we will never see anything like it ever made again by hollywoodLast Duel is up there too, but yes it's over for medieval movies.
>>219823449byzantium was a bunch of asia minor/ med spill off mutts larping
>>219824239no they didnt, the "muslim" golden age was just persians post conquest mitigating the retardation of arabs (briefly) as they attained some power from within. probably all still practicing Zoroastrianism in secret
>>219823964>saladin was the based black guy for christcucks in the MA
WE>dies to a mountain pass ambush even after being warned to not go thereWILL>betrays each other over petty titles and silly claimsRECLAIM>crosses hundreds of miles in desert wearing heavy armorJERUSALEM
>>219837332its a bad movie regardless
>>219838232Yeah, well. Now all you muzzies are eating bombs and sand for dinner
>>219823392Jesus is a prophet of Islam.
>>219823449>Shit like this is what eventually led to the Byzantine empire falling to the OttomansManzikert was the beginning of the end, happened 20 years before the First Crusade was preached.>>219823517>muslims never got a renaissance lmaoThat whole Andalusian adventure was pretty based. Europe reconnected with Aristotle through Moorish Iberia.>>219825762>I go to pray>For what?>For the strength to endure what is to come>God has abandoned me>I have not heard thatGemmy
>>219823449>The crusaders were a bunch of dirty thieves who lied to the Byzantine emperorwhy do greek/orthdox retards seethe over this over 900 years later.>beg pope for help because Turks are assraping you in Anatolia>Western help comes>do literally nothing to help the Latins once they go into Anatolia>Latins besieging Antioch, not looking great>Byz emperor is actually leading an army to the east to help>some guy deserting goes "nah bro it's over they died">Emperor does nothing to confirm this>turns around>Latins win the siege>emperor still wants Antioch back1204 was deserved, and if anything the "Romans" owe their recapture of Constantinople to the Bulgarians killing one of the Latin Emperors.
>>219833271I was hired actually and i've worked with very high profile YouTuber.>>219835418My source is John Man's Saladin book; for me, it felt very nicely middle of the road. I think it was also according to that book most of the Crusading States hated his guts too (he was ransomed back by necessity and no one really wanted him back). Anyway, even if that would be correct - doesnt mean other things cannot be too.
>>219838395yeah but renaissance means "rebirth", the Andalusian stuff was pretty early in terms of Islamic history and basically ended before 1000.
>>219838431Fuck off Muslim Turkish dog.
>>219838453>My source is John Man's Saladin bookA his source is?
>>219823224yeah I heard you the first time unc I ain't deaf
>>219827114>The Last Duel came out in 2021 and is really goodso was gladiator 2, yeah? TLD was shit, all ridley can do is shit adaptions of shit novels and cling on to his old feats. the man's a relic and should retire less disgracefully
>>219823449Based 4th crusade truther. We will not forget. The only people who seething at your post are either historically illiterate or biased
>>219823224more like salamander hudini
>>219832715Why is this written like some cheap erotic fiction paperback? Christians always the cucks eh? You can tell the author was getting off to this sick shit from the way he wrote it.
>>219841692That text was actually written by Imad ad-Din al-Isfahani portrayed by actor Alexander Siddig in the pic.This is how muslims behave whenever they are dominant. When they are weak they play the victims and bitch and moan for the slightest inconvenience.
