Invalid arguments>You hate women>You don't believe I'm therapy>You're fascist chud who hates women therapists>She is a self insert Articulate real arguments against this scene.
>>219833283it's a valid argument to dislike the writer creating a self insert character that pwns the protagonist epic style
>>219833283not reading that essay.
She is completely out of place.
Ever have a long boring walk or drive where you start going into a hypothetical chain of events where you do something wrong but justified and it ends with you in front of a judge delivering a brilliant monologue about how you were right to do what you did and it's such an amazing argument that you're found not guilty?That scene is that.Also this came 1-2 episodes which showed that trying to get to Rick psychologically is a waste of time.
>>219833283>words words words@grok summarize this in one sentence
>>219833440>@grok summarize this in one sentence
>>219833283>/co/poster>complete faggotEvery single time.
>>219833314>>219833315>>219833342>>219833350I accept your concession.
>>219833588See>>219833604
>>219833283I already did the last time you posted this
>>219833283insists upon itself
>retarded cartoon show about adventures in multiple universes and whatnot>w*men take over>"yah it's totally about mental illness now :)"first 2 seasons were alright, then it turned into "I didn't do it" boy, way too self conscious and aiming for "memes"I hate the internet so muchalso women ofc
>>219833483>well, just change your mind. That will solve your issue. That will be $15000. Do you pay by card or check?
>>219833692Family guy did this a few times though.
>>219833835And Family Guy has been shit for years
>>219833283she didn't have nearly enough information for such an analysis, all she had was Beth's biased descriptions of him and him arriving at the appointment late and turned into a pickle. No competent therapist would make so many assumptions about someone they know so little, so her entire argument can be immediately dismissed as baseless and unprofessional
>>219833283Don't forget that in a later episodes the president of the US has the hots for her and she turns him down.That's on par with the guy that self-inserted himself into the power puff girls show
>>219833350>I did manage to change my mind (with dealing with my video games addiction). And that did give me enough time in my daily routine to tackle my issues. >Was it my own deccision? Yes, after I weighted the pros and cons, and ignored outside advices.>Was it quick? No. It required more than an year of autophycoanalizing (with the help of ai as a wall to bounce off ideas), trying out various things, finaly finding some stuff which works for me, and all this on top of it being the final of a groundwork which Ive veen laying for about 7 years prior.>Was it easy? After I managed to aligne everything properly, and cut a big task in small 1day bites? Actually yes. But when taking everything in consideration you couls also easily say no.>To conclude everything. I agree with OP statement. But for somebody suffering of that, to also agree, that conclusion has to come from within. Otherwise its hard to accept. You first genuinly must want to change yourself, before you can change yourself. And that half the battle. The other half is actually doing (add on top that wanting is not enough, and learning how to do something can take an entire lifespam. Its not actually easy, unless with enough luck).>>219833283I agree with that scene AND your list of invalid counterarguments (with some * to them)
>>219834445I have no idea how I > all of that. Sorry for phoneposting.
The worst part about the later seasons about Rick and Morty is how Rick is a bitch in every way.He loses every fight he's in, he become more emotional sensitive than a woman and lets everyone walk all over him.He's a totally different character compared to the start, but not in a good "character development" way.
>>219834445>autophycoanalizingHuh?How's that work?
>>219834445Damn, also this was ment for >>219833810. Shoot me.
>>219834479Asking myself suck questions as>why do i want this?>why do i need to do this?Trying to answer them with my limited knowledge, find associations, and boiling down everything into key words which I tried to both understand with their dictionary definition, and my own. And after all that, using those ideas, conclusions, to find alternatives. Addictions to replace my addiction, but ones which I can better control / are not as harmful, for me subjectively.
>>219833283Like most women she’s just talking here without saying anything. Nowhere in this self-insert’s diatribe is there any suggestion as to how the patient might improve, which is the whole point of therapy. It’s just pointless bitching.
>>219833283she isnt wrongbut i watch the show for fun, adventures, and watching characters develop and interact with each other. not have lengthy, dry exposition lay it out in text. i would read a book for that. genuine and contextual interactions create moments. a dry, lengthy speech is far more than a moment, no matter how true the words are.
>>219834700it confronts the problem directly and calls out the evasive tactics. by laying it out bare on the table, they can no longer be earnestly used. it forces the client to confront the reality of their situation and choices. by laying out the playbook and making all options clearly understood, it forces the client to consciously choose their next actions. do they admit to their own problems and reject any notion of help, healing, or progress? or do they accept responsibility and choose a better way?you're fucking retarded and autistic for not understanding this very simple social situation.
>>219833283>debate my roastie-nigger-chinkslop propaganda in my terms
>>219833935Decades, more like.
I just started watching season 8, thinking "surely it can't be that bad," and it turned out to be, in fact, "that bad."
>>219833483>The summary is still an overrun paragraph KekNot reading that shit nigga
>>219833283Therapy isn't maintenance, though, like cleaning yourself. It isn't necessary. That's what therapists say to justify their careers' existence. Women love therapy because it is validation. Women want men to go to therapy because they treat men like defective women.
>>219833283OYu know it's fake because a real therapist would force rick to go to a psychiatrist so he can be forced to get drugs on his already drunk situation for profit
>>219835857you go to therapy because something is wrong and needs fixing. thats maintenance. going to therapy when nothing is wrong is like driving a new car off the lot straight to a mechanic garage. even if the thing "wrong" is a void that needs to be filled with validation, thats maintenance. how are you this fucking stupid?
>>219833283Rick being an asshole is obvious and the point of his character and you don't need a writer's self insert to spell it out to you like a retard.
>>219833283>Describing therapy as "repairing, maintaining, and cleaning"I hate this sterile leftist manner of speech. Anyone who speaks like this takes a cocktail of anti-depressants every day and brags on reddit about being "neurodivergent".
>>219836455there a lot of stupid people in the world that need yellow paint. i dont have it saved, but theres that famous cuphead clip of some journo failing the basic controls tutorial.
>>219833604You concede my acceptance.
>>219833283I think it was funny and in the end I don't care about anything else in my meta chud show.It's not like the show wasn't dead and they weren't scraping by at that point.
No. She's right.
>>219833314Rick deserves to get taken down a notch. The only reason you're mad is because you self insert as Rick. It's like the cenobite episode, or the finite curve being the ultimate act of insecurity from a omnipotent godlike being with more plot armor than batman all over again.
>>219833692this>>219834019and this
>>219836448Therapy doesn't fix anything; that is what you are not getting.
>muh self insertI find that ironic, she must felt deeply assblasted that a fictional character that was well liked didn't fit the narrative she wanted to push, so she had to write herself in the show to make sure the audience would feel conflicted about ever liking Rick, even if it was in a shallow level.What she did is akin to a woman in a skit playing the straight guy among actual funny comedians, knowing that's the only thing she can do because everyone else knows she isn't funny, so she decides to break character and ruin the skit for everyone, it's just petty.
>>219838248>NOOOOO LEAVE THE NIHILIST CARTOON CHARACTER ALONE HE'S COOL AND SMART AND USES SCIENCE LIKE MAGIC (WHICH ISN'T REAL JUST LIKE GOD BY THE WAY) NOT LIKE MOM'S BOYFRIEND STEVE I BET RICK COULD KICK HIS ASS AND DAD WOULD COME BACK WITH HIS CIGARETTES AND THE MILK. HE'S LITERALLY ME: INTELLIGENT, NIHILISTIC AND A WICKED SENSE OF HUMOR.
it's out of place, telling a guy who bends the universe to his will that he needs therapy is retarded, the concept itself is off, it's like seeing a shark on top of a mountain
>>219833283>why you hated this?because therapy absolutely can be done so wrong that people die, clinicians know this, and would never suggest that if therapy doesn't work it's because the client would rather die.
>>219839046I accept your concession.
>>219833283I don't hate it, but I do kind of dislike how Pickle Rick is the #1 meme phenomenon associated with the show. The episode doesn't represent what Rick and Morty is generally about, it's one where Morty is sidelined (and turned into a desk-wetter which is out of character for him...) and Rick goes off and does his own thing
>>219833283There actually is a way for therapy to go so wrong you'll die, and that's to allow yourself to be gaslit into believing that your a woman trapped in a man's body or vice versa. It's a slow death sure but eventually once you've mangled your body beyond repair and realize you're no happier now than you were before and nobody wants to be around you anymore for the years of screaming at anyone who slipped up and dared to use the correct (though not your "preferred" pronouns) you'll eventually sui.
>>219833350>Ever have a long boring walk or drive where you start going into a hypothetical chain of events where you do something wrong but justified and it ends with you in front of a judge delivering a brilliant monologue about how you were right to do what you did and it's such an amazing argument that you're found not guilty?Too real
I’m pickle rick! lol
>>219833283>therapy is like work>except we don’t pay you>actually you pay us!This might make sense if anyone ever actually saw meaningful positive changes from going to therapy. But from everything I’ve seen throughout my life the main goal of therapy is to keep you going to therapy.
>>219839967This
>>219833283Because creating a self-insert for the sole purpose of epically owning an existing character that people actually care about is fucking gay. If you can't make the flaws of your character clear to the audience without some irrelevant bitch going on a monologue, you're a bad writer and should be beaten to death by 10 of your peers. Never actually watched Reddit and Morty btw I just hate female therapists.
>therapists>the rapistsCoincidence?? I think not!!
>>219835454The point of therapy is to help your patients get better, not to own them epic-style with heckin facts and logic. People typically don’t react well to being directly called out. Even if everything she was saying was 100% true she had no reason to believe he’d accept or internalize it when her point was presented in such an adversarial and accusatory way. >just “choose a better way” broBasically like saying a guy with a broken leg should just walk it off. People go to therapy because they need to be healed, not because they need to hear undirected bitching about how terrible they are.
>>219833283because the concept of Rick being smart yet leading a life that's destructive to himself and those around him was handled in a way that was far better, funnier, and more subtle in seasons 1 and 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCos9i-uUA
>>219833717>do a episode to mock you for wanting more funny wacky adventure in space and dimension
>>219833717Is the "first two seasons were good" a real thing? It's sounds very much like people desperately trying to sound like they weren't taken(raped).
>>219833283It would be better if she said the first sentence only, and then Rick tries to defend himself, and it evolves into an interesting back and forth instead of the writer just owning Rick while he stays silent.
>>219842454They were genuinely good when they came out, however I wouldn't recommend watching today if you didn't back then though.
>>219842831Writers are massive narcissists, all of them, without exception. So of course she had to have le epic mic drop moment with Rick.t, I've been around creatives, they're fucking all headcases, directors less so than writers, producers, or even actors
>>219833350>Ever have a long boring walk or drive where you start going into a hypothetical chain of events where you do something wrong but justified and it ends with you in front of a judge delivering a brilliant monologue about how you were right to do what you did and it's such an amazing argument that you're found not guilty?It's an insane world where justice is so misapplied that every man with an IQ above 100 can relate to this. We have a love of truth and justice, but know that to act it out would inevitably result in our arrest, so we all just fantasize impotently about whatever it may be. Grim. Glad to see it's so common, though, maybe things will get better some day.
>>219833604>Well kiddo, what did you get up to today?>I annoyed people on the internet>Okay, dear.
>>219833283Brevity is the soul of wit.A giant wall of psycho babble combined with trite and obvious conclusions about the character is not.On a side note the therapy industry is a con. Most of their work is just listening to you bitch, telling you what you want to hear, and giving you drugs. At best they might prod you to do some self reflection; but that's rare.
>>219842454>Is the "first two seasons were good" a real thing?I'd say so. It was a fun show for a while there. Then it went up its own ass.
>>219834054>That's on par with the guy that self-inserted himself into the power puff girls showEw, I had forgotten about that.
>>219845190>and giving you drugs.And not good ones either like what real doctor's offices do
>>219845208Dan Harmon tends to do that
>>219840383>People go to therapy because they need to be healedits a complicated process, not a magic medicine. different people respond better to different types guidance. some need to be told what to do. some just need an outlet and the listener to ask the right questions. some need to have the security blanket ripped off and confront the problem. regardless of it all, the first step is to always recognize and admit the problem, and then make the choice to do something about it. the fact that you see things as so black and white and singular speaks volumes to how retarded and ignorant you are on the topic.also, rick is clearly not the kind of person to tolerate roundabout, condescending, miyagi style lessons, and actually respects direct, concise, non sugar coated truth. >hear undirected bitching about how terrible they are.sounds like you took something too personally because thats not what happened in her speech at all, retard.
>>219847505>buying into therapy speak this hard and still using 4chanoh you are FUCKED fucked
>>219833283being insane in the membrane is what made Rick compelling/ourpickle/ got castrated right then and there
>>219833283I am sick and tired of asians thinking they are superior.
if you were still watching rick and morty at this point you are already beyond help
>>219848621It's the Sunk-Cost Fallacy
its basic bitch entry level useless therapy that means shit with someone like Rick and yet it was used like some ultimate gotchya that he couldn't of possibly seen coming
>>219833350not only have I not had that experience but I don't see how it relates to the scene
>>219836448people like this is why therapists exist
Yes, it's the writer blogposting at us. The real crime is Rick actually reflecting on this rather than standing him, farting in her direction, and walking out while flipping her off.Like, she couldn't even write herself being a punching bag to Rick. She had to be better, which makes the writing shit.
