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>makes star wars troons uncontrollably seethe
Dune is orders of magnitude better than every other sci-fi franchise and it's not even close
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>>219837237
There aren't many sci-fi franchises. So why compare?
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I wonder if you zoomies will abandon it once they're done with Paul and then worm-man Leto becomes the main character.
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>>219837237
I like Dune a lot. Even some of his sons stuff, but it's not the best franchise.
There's too much shit of no consequence going on, and not enough depth to things that should matter more, like Navigators, Tau Laixu etc.
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>>219837237
The movies are shit compared to the books.
For that reason alone, it can't be the best franchise.
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>>219837237
As far as /tv/ goes, my favorites are
>Star Wars
>Avatar
>Mad Max
>Dune
>Alien
in that order.
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>>219837237
The expanse is better than Dune
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>>219837237
Dune is pretty good overall.
But DUNC is complete and utter trash.
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>>219837312
Canon situation is different for each:
>Star Wars
6 movies, comic material, animated mini-series, some novels, and some games. Couple of Disney things have Apocrypha status.
>Avatar
Movies + Frontiers of Pandora.
>Mad Max
Fury Road + Furiosa. First two movies have Apocrypha status.
>Dune
Books + Villeneuve adaptation (contradictions be damned).
>Alien
Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, and Covenant. 3, Resurrection, Romulus, and some comics have Apocrypha status.
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>>219837237
>Dune is orders of magnitude better than every other sci-fi franchise
Indeed. A shame it never got a good movie and only a passable low budget miniseries adaptation of the first book.
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>>219837237
zased
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1 is mid
2 is good
Let’s see how 3 goes
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>>219837555
>Books
Most of them are trashy cashgrabs, generally not accepted as "canon" by anyone but their creator.
>Villeneuve adaptation
Frank Herbert loved Lynch's film.
Brian Herbert loves DUNC.
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>>219839048
>Books
Regarding Star Wars, I said some, not most.
Regarding Dune, it's only the Frank Herbert ones.
>Frank Herbert loved Lynch's film.
Lynch's Dune is fine, so could be convinced to list it under Apocrypha.
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>>219839218
Lynch's Dune is not only a better film in every single regard than DUNC, it's also way more book accurate (even with the changed ending). It coined iconic phrases that the franchise is popular for that were not in the books ("The slow blade penetrates the shield") and it created an aesthetic for the universe that the author approved of, rather than an anaesthetic for zoomer audiences like DUNC did.
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the new dune movies are boring and im tired of pretending they arent
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>>219837237
If Dune Part Three is even remotely faithful to its source material it's going to make the brainlets using Dune as a rebound from Star Wars seethe. It's basically going to be three hours of Paul being a wishy-washy cuck who can't stop anything bad from happening to him and then he walks out to the desert to die.

Dune Messiah is the Last Jedi before Star Wars even existed
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>>219839438
>muh zoomers
That is your real problem with it, no?
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>>219839452
I dare you to open up Dune Part Two, jump to the 1h50m mark and let it play from there. If that's boring to you, then your brain fried.
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Lawrence of Arabia >>>> Dune and Star Wars
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>>219839610
Maybe if you like Turk dick.
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>>219839048
>>219839218
>>219839438
The good parts of Lynch's Dune are really good. Herbert liked the navigator so much that he "stole" the design for his novels and other stuff like that mentat mantra with the sapho juice are original from the film and yet super-iconic, to the point that most people misremembers it and believes it's from the book.
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>>219839610
Not sci-fi.
>>219839618
The turks aren't really the protagonists, it doesn't take a hard side. Still, not comparable to either of those movies.
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One can tell because we need constant reminders of that fact.
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>>219839883
you've never read Dune
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>>219839582
Damn it only requires skipping the first 4 and a half hours of DUNC to find something exciting to watch.
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>>219839883
>Check out my EVIL UNDERPANTS bros
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>tfw no Rebecca Ferguson reverend mommy
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It's annoying that even after making a big effort to differentiate itself from Lynch's Dune, DUNC still has the problem of underexplaining the setting to newcomers.
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Where do Fremen get materials for basically everything they need? They have clothes and advanced technology but I only ever saw sand and rock on the planet
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>>219841509
through their smuggling connections (they bribe the guild with a shitton of spice through them to keep them from putting up satellites and making everyone find out there's actually more than like 2.5 fremen per sq ft,) killing harkonnens, and turning spice into a shitton of things in the sietch factories like spice paper, spice plastic, etc
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>>219837237
Star Wars is mostly shit, but at least the movies have good music. DUNC is shit in every way.
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>>219841509
Spice and its byproducts can be turned into basically anything. It's like petroleum being turned into plastics.
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>>219841553
new thing bad old thing good, go demoralize on /pol/ instead randeep
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the best sci fi franchise is the holocaust
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>>219842197
This.
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>>219837269
At budgets of 9-digits, it's about theme park rides not strange sci-fi concepts and how characters interact with them at length or depth (prod team see the "esoteric" as nerds talking to a wall.) It's a theme park ride.
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>>219841588
>new thing bad old thing good
Do you love Brain Herbert's books as well, anon? After all, they're the "new thing" as far as Dune books go.



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