>20 Million Dollars a kilo.Damn straight i will bomb the hell out of your forest village!
>>219841478That's kind of diamond tier. Wouldn't travel to another planet just for that.
>>219841478Seems difficult to obtain then.
>>219841478>that's almost fifteen dollars in 2020 money
>>219841478Isn't Avatar set in like 2150? At the current rate of inflation that's probably the equivalent to around $50 a kilo today.
why not trade with the Na'avi?They have no use for Unobtanium
>>219841653They are hippy dippy commies who don't want to destroy the environment to get to the ore. And they don't want anything from humanity, except sex maybe.
>>219841608you can redenominate a currency, the french Franc famously did itSo the "new" dollar in 2150 could mean 1k or 100k in modern terms
>>219841653avatar 4 will explain how early RDA ventures tried to peacefully negotiate before racist na'avi butchered them all.
>>219841687You didn’t watch the 3rd one
>>219841741The fire clan is a fringe death cult
>>219841653Because their actual God that they can talk to, told them they're not allowed to. The Humans just laughed and didn't take that seriously though since the Human's God is just something fictional they made up.
>>219841767And the air clan retard?
>>219842008okay they were in the movie for like 5 minutes forgive me for forgetting.I was disappointed that they weren't in it more
>>219841555The production cost for lab grown diamonds is like 100k per kg nowadays lmao
>>219841994how is it a "god" if it's some weak parasitic organism? You can blow up their "god" with some orbital neutron torpedo or somesuch
>>219842150how would that help with getting them to trade with you
>>219841741Yeah I didn't watch it, except by osmosis. Isn't the fire psycho chick that way because of trauma or something?
>>219842173it wouldn't, I'm just saying it's not a divine being just some alien parasitic hive mind
>>219841653Because violence is more fun.
>>219841478>Madethefuckup-ium
>>219842347The fuck?
>>219841478Blue heavy metal people? Don’t let that out!
>>219842274>>219842150Theyre a colony organism okay their tree of life is truly their God
I'm not watching until there's a bluray release. The graphics are the only reason people watch this shit.
>>219844541Your shitty monitor will still pale in comparison to the theatrical experience
>>219844541Your exclusive IMAX theater is 3 hours away cuh you still have time to see it.
>>219841653They're brown coded and browns are too stupid to understand complexities of things like "trade"
>>219841478I liked Selfridge in the first movie. He was silly, but had a good heart and wasn't trying to hurt anyone. In the third movie, he's flanderized and turned into a buffoonish joke
Norm was such a dork in this movie
>>219842376>creativebankruptcyum
>>219846163What do humans have that can be traded to the navi?
>>219848026Nothing. That's what pisses off the humans. The Na'vi don't want their McDonalds, fattening processed corn syrup foods, their degenerate porn, alcohol and drugs, other things that would rot and destroy Na'vi society and their environment. They live in paradise and have everything they could possibly ask for provided. Their high trust cohesive society is perfect for them. It makes the humans furious since they want the natives to embrace capitalism and be enslaved to them.
>Why don't you want to help turn Pandora into another polluted Earth?! You loved living in the tiny pod and eating the bugs!
>>219841478why didnt the blue cat people just sell it and become rich
>>219848609Everyone now works their ass off in the small hope to earn millions of dollars just to maybe buy a tiny fraction of what the Na'vi already have for free. A paradise for you and your friends to enjoy while you ride dragons and hunt together with a tight knit homogeneous community. Everyone gets a traditional mate to have a large family with. Clean air, good food, no taxes, plenty to go around.
I would introduce xenomorphs to Pandora and ruin it for everyone.
>>219842150in exchange for monopoly rights to pandoran unobtanium, the nations of earth forbid the RDA from using weapons of mass destruction.
>>219841608$20m is not going to be $50 you fucking idiot. I guessed $1m and was right.>But in 2150, its real value could feel like somewhere between ~$150k and ~$1.7M today, depending on inflation
>>219848566>NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU MARY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GODDESS ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN AND HAVE THREE KIDS WITH HER !Jake was right
>>219850843just three? Jake was pretty gay
>>219841653Because the Unobtanium is under their big tree, and they don't want anything you have.
>>219851837It's under the tree because Unobtanium powers Eywa. It's concentrated most at all her nodes. She has laws that prohibit the Na'vi from mining metal. If Humans rip it all out, they kill Eywa.
>>219841653Why not kinetically bombard all major population centers from orbit, where there is guaranteed safety and no possibility of retaliation even from their global neural network?
>>219848026Spaceships. Even savages should be able to see the benefit of ascension to stellar travel.
>>219848710>with a tight knit homogeneous communityUnironically the most important thing that was taken from you.
>>219842150Their god is basically all life on the planet networked together through conductive root systems into a vast intelligence. You can't just blow it up. Not without blowing up the whole planet anyways.The spirit tree is just a connection hub. It's how they jack into the system.
>>219852091For a species with total orbital dominance like humans in this universe, it would merely be a decade-or-so-long logistical problem to coordinate kinetic bombardment using asteroids or shaped tungsten rods that do actually destroy all life on the planet.
Why didn't humans just stop having so many children?
>>219852217>finally discover intelligent alien life on another planet>immediately blow it all up to steal their mineralsNoah was a mistake
>>219852244That would make line go down. Therefore it's impossible.
>>219851837Not even my rare Lego minifigures?
>>219852253Lol, said the human. Lmao.
>>219852244We WILL export billions of browns to your planet to destroy it, and you WILL like it!
>>219852302Humanity makes me ashamed to be myself.
>we need a name for this difficult to get material>something that means its un obtainable...> Unobtainium!
>>219852424>he doesn’t know
>>219852380That's the curse of sin. Christ gives hope that better will come.
>>219852380There's no reason to think that if intelligent alien species existed, that they would be any different. Hell, they might even be more ruthless about it. Get over it.
>Damn doc, I wanna git me some of that blue booty!
>>219852253It's not like the humans didn't try to communicate with and educate the aliens in this universe. But just like in real life, while civilized persons tried to educate and extend peace talks, the more impulsive among the savages just kept murdering them. >T. The Hungate Massacre begat the Sand Creek Massacre. Many such cases
>>219852479>Christ gives hope that better will comeYeah, when you fucking die.>>219852491True, but that doesn't make me feel any better.>>219852549Peace is easy. Just stop destroying their home. The "savages" were fighting because humans were bulldozing their planet and stealing their shit while making token gestures towards diplomacy.
>>219841478only 20mil? bruh that this has nothing on Antimatters $62 trillion per gram. get that poorfag shit out of here
>>219852701>Peace is easy. Just stop destroying their home.>Forgetting the forces of economic scarcity and necessity driving these decisions.Yes, yes, I'm sure the humans just need to stop being meanies. There's no need for what they're doing. I bet you have riveting solutions to current geopolitical goings-on, too, eh? Everyone should just stop fighting? Brilliant you are.
>>219852781Pandora belongs to the Na'vi. The humans don't just to arrive, steal their land and resources while polluting their planet. They don't accept your money, so fuck off and find another planet to ruin.
>>219852806>Pandora belongs to the Na'vi.The only land that belongs to you is what you can keep through violence. If someone takes it then it's theirs. What are you going to do about it?
>>219852806America belongs to Americans. Can we start kicking out the foreigners?
>>219852781Humans destroyed their own planet. Doesn't give them the right to steal someone else's. Either die with dignity or go colonize Mars.Not to mention in the first movie it was literally just a corp making profits by stealing valuable shit from someone else's land.You would never make these ridiculous arguments if aliens were invading earth because their planet ran out of water or something.
>>219852919>Doesn't give them the rightAre the Na'vi going to sue them or something? Lol.
>>219852919>Either die with dignity or go colonize Mars.Ironic that you say I wouldn't be making my arguments when you would, guaranteed, not make this argument if your planet was dying and there was a way forward.
>>219852900No, that's mean. You have to let them replace you and then die with dignity like this anon said >>219852919
>>219852919Exactly. They're always just like "humans are allowed to do anything they want as might makes right!" As if 1: that it will benefit them in any way and not just enrich the corporations and big CEOs and 2: as if humanity were entirely white instead of billions of browns and yellows. All those chinese that are destroying the ocean with overfishing and all those indians chucking mountains of plastic into the ocean? Yeah, you just want to do that to yet another pristine planet.
>>219852995You're the one arguing for replacing the Navi with humans.
>>219841478>If we find this specific rock, we can get one bajillion quiplooos!!!!!!!
>>219853024>When two conflicting forces clash by circumstance I support my ownHow very odd.
>>219852971I would absolutely be saying it. It's not me that kills the planet, it's those elite in power. They're the ones who are warned constantly and just ignore it for profit. They kill off Earth, then fuck it, they should die with the rest of us rather than leave us here to suffer while they skirt off to some new paradise world to live in bliss. You didn't actually think they'd take you with them right?
>>219853024>not denying support for replacement of AmericansHey shalom, rabbi. You know when your greatest ally has been destroyed from the inside, there will be no one to keep the muzzies from raping your daughters.
>>219853062>by circumstanceone planet is invading another, this isn't some fucking cosmic accident>I support my ownI don't. I actually have values.
>>219853081>I would absolutely be saying it.Wow, great, you'd commit suicide and condemn others to death just to feel noble. You should start right now.The most retarded part of this logic is that in your literal next sentence you point out that it wouldn't even be your fault, but you'd still take the death sentence. What a fucking faux martyr you are in hypotheticals when nothing is on the line.
>>219853109>one planet is invading another, this isn't some fucking cosmic accidentThe circumstance is that this important element is only found here and is needed to keep humanity limping along. This means conflict is unavoidable. But you're the type of person who wants the moral high-ground so nuance goes right out the window. Do you vote left, by chance?
>>219850010>citing AI
>>219853109>I don't. I actually have valuesDo you believe in objective morality built into the fabric of reality by God? Because if you're a relativist, you don't actually have principles or values. Just want to make that clear
>>219853081This kind of suicidal empathy is why the west is dying. A whole generation of students was taught that the west was imperialist and evil and the only way to atone is to tear it all down and die off. All natural truth of the inevitability of conflict was avoided and now we have people like this voting for a collective suicide pact. Grim. Unfortunately the only way to keep them from killing us alongside themselves may be to kill them first. It's starting to seem that way anyway.
>>219853192Let's say your neighbor burned his house down. Then he shows up on your doorstep with a gun saying he's gonna live in your house now or else. Are you gonna happily give him your home? And when he starts setting the curtains on fire saying he likes it better this way, are you gonna put up with it?Humanity had other options for survival and chose not to do them. And they didn't come to Pandora begging for help. They came with guns to take what they wanted. Maybe humanity should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps instead of asking for handouts or mugging their neighbors.
>>219841478The whole thing is just anti-white Marxist propaganda packaged in a fantasy setting. But it's telling that (((they))) had to posit a Gaia to justify their anti-imperialists all-whites-are-villains position, because in the real world natives don't have any magical trees and shit. They're basically just people that were uniquely too dumb to make wheels and letters and domesticate animals.
I saw Parker Selfridge at a grocery store in Bridgehead City yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>219853326Your analogy is broken. He's not showing up with a gun. I have a gun. He's showing up with a bomb with a deadman's switch. There is no way I am matching him without dying. This is the situation the Na'vi are in. In this situation, where you are hopelessly outgunned, you do in fact need to find an alternative to violence if you want to live. That's reality and one that has been faced by millions of people on earth since the beginning of time. That you don't understand it shows a real disconnect with history.
>>219853351It's not anti-white at all. You're just the usual low iq, racist, maga white boy that thinks only whites can travel in space. The entire human force was multicultural. All races were involved in stealing these people's lands. I'm sure you'll spin circles in your head trying to reconcile being pro-immigrating tons of browns into someone else's lands to rape and pillage them while you're so against it right now that you make up lies about it occurring.
>>219853326You fucking retard, the humans in this universe have complete orbital dominance and access to outside resources. This is not a home invasion, it is a siege where the walls are already breached. These people are basically already the subjects of humanity, and if the writing staff didn't make humans retards so that the plot could happen, all the planet would have been nuked from orbit. If we were facing such an opponent, the only rational behavior is to beg them to come to peace talks and work out a tributary plan that allows us to still grow and eke out an existence.
>>219853457>Let's say your neighbor burned his house down. Then he shows up on your doorstep with a gun saying he's gonna live in your house now or else.>He's not showing up with a gun. I have a gun. He's showing up with a bomb with a deadman's switch.This would actually be a kino plot if executed right.
>>219853533First exposure to Sci-Fi and Fantasy? Within the genres, "humans" (always multicultural) are always a stand-in for "whites". It's true from Tolkien to Star Trek to D&D and everywhere in between.
>>219848131>t. Naavi chuddie
>>219852836>t. Rabbi
>>219853533From Avatar's script, as written by James Cameron:
>>219853741>>219853106The worst part about the leftists deciding Palestinians are the victims in this Israel-Palestine thing is that Jew no longer has any meaning on 4chan. It's just everyone left and right calling everyone Jews.
>>219853533>The entire human force was multiculturalAvatar's villains were the least diverse lot outside of a WW2 movieAlso note that in comparison, all of the Na'vi are portrayed by nonwhite actors except for the ones like Jake who were born human
>>219841478>it cost 80 trillion just to build the ships not factoring the cost to get there and back of mining itI guess in the future it doesn’t matter given how much inflated the cost of everything will be
>>219853786I was surprised to google this and find out it's legit.
>>219853741That's just the way of the world. It always has been and it always will be. If you dislike it that doesn't change it. If someone invades your country and annexes it, but they didn't have the "right" to, what did that affect? Nothing, they still took it, and you're only going to get it back through violent force.
>>219853830I want to follow the dude in the back with the eyepatch's shenanigans in pandora
Imagine a religion so powerful that if you're sufficiently virtuous and faithful you can actually, physically stop being whiteThat's a key part of James Cameron's dream, as much as fucking a cat
>>219853793brownoids have ruined antisemitism for me and I used to rather enjoy it
>>219841653>why not trade with the Na'avi?Because that wouldn't force the message in the same way. You're supposed to view the movie through a simplistic, anti-colonial, lens.
>>219841653The naavi are probably indian givers.
>>219853533pretty much.
>>219854043No. What if you go to the garden of Eden and you have nothing they could possibly want. They are perfectly content in all ways. In fact, anything you give them will degenerate them and bring them further away from God. Are you then justified in attacking and killing them to take their stuff? That's the lens you should be looking at it through. You're dumb if you can't understand that. Yes, it's a movie, and not reality, bravo simpleton.
>>219854121>That's the lens you should be looking at it through.That's not even the lens the writing took. That's a misinterpretation on your part that you decided is the point of the movie. They literally did trade with humans and engage in cultural exchange before the events of the movie.
>>219854121>anything you give them will degenerate them and bring them further away from God.They could be given education and literal spaceships to expand themselves and their god to other planets. That this, mankind's greatest bargaining chip, is never discussed is firmly rooted in the desired for colonialism to be the forced message. The humans are retarded so the plot can be happen and colonialism can be condemned.
>>219854121You're dumb as shit because a significant portion of Na'vi are either eaten by predators or die in coming of age rituals
>>219854273That's also based and trad
>>219853793>leftists deciding They know who wields power unlike you. You can head back to bed gramp.
>>219853192>Do you vote left, by chance?Are you, by chance, semitic?
>>219854273Your arguing with a retard. He thinks the blue people live in beautiful harmony with nature because he bought in to the whole noble savage thing. He wouldn't consider that they're exposed to the elements at all times, likely die from disease in great numbers, and are actively hunted by predators because only the silly human was shown to be in a conflict with nature because he wasn't spiritual enough.
>>219854359You clearly don't see the subtextual antisemitism of the comment. You need to be 18 to post here, you fucking retard.
>>219854362If you put an anti before that. Now see here.>>219853793
>>219854379You need to subtext? Lmao retard.
>>219853877he is so Canadian
>>219854416He missed the point of power that hard. Impressive.
>>219841653It's not a commodity they have in their houses. It's a mineral that requires deep mining and it's under their spirit tree thing. That's the conflict.
>>219854416Let me spell it out since you're brown. If the worst part of a situation is that disparaging the Jews no longer carries the weight it once did, then that would mean... ?
>>219841478What's the canonical explanation why they haven't nuked/gassed the planet yet?
>>219854744They had to sign an agreement for no WMD use with EarthGov in exchange for exclusive mineral rights
>>219841653trade for what? the humans have nothing they want
>>219854788>>219841653>>219841478The dumbest part of this argument is that James Cameron does not know or care about the answerUnobtanium was not mentioned in Avatar 2 or 3In fact it was replaced with whale brains as the McMuffin
>>219854788This has been repeated several times in this thread, but it's just not true. Sanitation systems, spaceships, even anti-thanator systems so they don't get eaten humans could provide. The film pretends the navi are in perfect harmony with the universe and don't want things that they objectively would want for plot reasons, not because it makes any sense.
idk how im supposed to watch these movies and NOT be on humanities side. you telling me it's humanity or the fuckn blue injuns?
>>219854908Avatar's audience is largely third-worlders, interspersed with a few wealthy white liberals who loathe whites more than anyone
>>219854863Fucking medicine. Not once is disease mentioned in these films. You expect me to believe Eywa has complete control of every fucking microbe on the planet, preventing plagues for all these big blue fucks rolling around in the mud and using their mating braids on every animal they come across? Fuck off. Humans would definitely need to introduce these people to germ theory.
>>219854925Nah, the audience is overwhelming Americans of all stripes and ribbons, not that you would know.
>>219855437Fire and Ash made only 27% of its revenue in the US, and its American audience was majority nonwhiteIt also made less than half as much money as the first Avatar
>>219854772First movie they gave us the impression Earth's entire civilization was on the brink of collapse and this element was the only thing that would prevent it.In what scenario does the Earth government say "we will all die without this... but don't be *too* harsh about getting it"?
>>219850010>what is hyperbole?
>>219851419Neyney is going to demand more after Netty died
Have they shown a single use for the magic resource? Cool new ideas and technology? Or just more of what we already can do
