>>219844739
this is hella fire

yeah that scene is pretty good, and basically every other scene of the movie is bad

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>right in the benis

why are they swinging at each other's sword instead of trying to hit each other

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>Hmm. This guys is pretty tough. Should I wait a few seconds like the sensible and wise jedi I am for Obi-Wan to catch up so we can safely 2v1 him again

>nah let's just fucking bumrush his ass

>>219844777
its made up

>>219844739
i like the prequels more, but the "fights" are the epitome of "dance fighting"

>>219844780
has fighting unfairly ever benefitted a jedi? or any movie protagonist? the general rule of screenwriting is, the more viewer expects something to happen the more likely it won't

>>219844739
It's so kino I couldn't stop watching.

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>>219845108

we thought jarjar was the lamest shit ever. that fight was the best part of ep1.

So uh
Why making laser door that stop evert 20 sec ? Why the giant bottomless pit ?

>>219844739
That movie had 10 minutes of cool shit and the rest was a boring cartoon

>>219845108
>Uhm, if you pause, they aren't actually swinging at each other, sweatie
Literally every movie sword fight, even the acclaimed ones like The Mark of Zorro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_hlyLvlqy8&t=80

>>219844739
Gen X is the smallest and most irrelevant generation. This scene is based.

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>>219845769
>*up beat trumpets*
>Directed by George Lucas

>>219844739
Darth Maul was the one thing everyone praised

ah, yes. my hallway is working as designed, randomly timed red laser walls spaced out to block anyone from moving 10 feet for about a minute..

>>219844739
If you know anything about George Lucas it's that he loves stealing from Asian cinema because nobody was paying attention to anything from there back then. He clearly saw some Chinese wuxia films from the 70s and 80s and thought it'd be cool to do.

John Woo films used to have pretty OTT fight scenes too, but Idk if that's changed because I haven't seen any newer movies by him.

>>219848186
We didn’t pay attention to it because it looked stupid as fuck.

>>219844777
It's a disarming tactic, sometimes swordfighters are focused on disarming the opponent to get the kill on easier. In theory, the idea is the Obi-Wan and Maul are trying to disarm the other because both wanna kill the other quicker but the delivery is a bit more theatrical

>WHY ARE THEY GOING SO FUCKING FAST

>>219844777
t. didn't watch the movie where they clearly take swings at each other

>>219844739
the movie was so bad that by the time this scene occurred I was in a state of shock. but yes, this scene is kino

>>219848186
>If you know anything about George Luca
stopped right there, gen x doesn't know shit about george lucas which is why they made the people vs george lucas
these are people who worship star wars like a sacred cow and why anything outside the original trilogy or thrawn trilogy is considered sacrilege to them.
they are directly responsible for the sequels and disney buying lucasfilm, they live their life by a scorched earth policy because either they don't know better or refuse to admit their faults and move on.

>>219844739
Jarjar and Anakin were why

>The trade federation blockading a small planet of no worth to protest the taxation of their trade routes makes no sense. Especially when they have many other alternative solutions at their disposal.
>There is no visual evidence that the blockade negatively impacts naboo.
>It is never explained why Sidious has so much sway over the TF apart from vague notions of fear.
>Qui-gon and company somehow travel through the Planet's core via a submarine.
>The TF land on the other side of the planet despite having the capability of landing their troops outside the Captiol city.
>Gunray has Amidala sent for processing instead of keeping her secure within the palace. Gunray doesn't even have her escorted by droidekas.
>The TF somehow expect a treaty signed under duress to be legally binding.
>R2D2 being the queen's astromech is a huge contrivance.
>The TF attempt to destroy the ship holding the one person they require to sign their treaty. No fighters are scrambled to Intercept.
>Jar Jar is brought along to Mos Espa despite being a huge liability that makes our group conspicuous.
>Qui-gon's plan to obtain a Nubian Hyperdrive is completely convoluted and takes up way too much time that he admittedly doesn't have.
>Qui-gon has numerous other options to get off Tatoonie or obtain the Nubian hyperdrive and uses none of them.
>C-3PO is built by Anakin. Another major contrivance in order to reintroduce a character from the OT.
>Midichlorians create a number of issues logistically while also removing the mysticism of the Force.
>There is no visual indication Naboo is suffering under the TF occupation.
>No one is aware of the Queen's location but the Queen's advisor is somehow able to send a message to her ship even though the TF is still jamming transmissions.
>Maul is somehow able to locate the Queen to Tatoonie without leads.
>The Jedi Council believes a 9 year old is too old to be trained.

>>219848673
ah my good old friend the stupid plothole nigger, you return again to shit up these threads with imaginary plotholes that you shat out in an afternoon to troll with, how art thou?

>>219848673
cont.
>The TF has enough pull in the senate to prevent aid to Naboo but not enough to prevent tax increases.
>The queen and company are able to break through the blockade to land back on Naboo with no issue. They are able to land without the TF tracking them down.
>Sidious/Palpatine still pushes to have the TF capture the queen to sign the treaty despite having changed his plans and no longer requiring the TF any longer now that he is chancellor.
>Qui-gon brings a 9 year old to a warzone instead of leaving him with the Jedi Council or Gungans in the Swamp.
>Boss Nass makes Jar Jar a general despite knowing his propensity to cause trouble because he "made peace with the Naboo" the complete opposite of what a combat general is needed for.
>The queen's guard doesn't immediately start shooting at Maul when he shows up unarmed in the hanger.
>Anakin somehow destroys the TF control ship with no combat/flight experience and by complete luck.
>Maul allows Obi-wan to jump over him without even attempting to swipe at him. This is after letting Obi-wan dangle off the ledge without using the force to push him into the chasm.
>The Jedi Council allow Obi-wan to train Anakin despite having nothing but dangerous premonitions regarding the subject.

>>219848278
You should watch some 70s Hong Kong cinema, it's absolutely wild, some of the actors actually almost killed themselves doing stunts

>>219848697
Pretty good, your butthole recover after getting btfo when you made the arguement that Jedi couldn't lift a hyperdrive with the force?

>>219848739
funny enough i was actually thinking about that the other day and it made me lol at how ridiculous you had to get in order to get a W (you didn't)

>>219848816
You acted like someone using mind control to steal an item was completely different than just outright stealing it. Buddy you got you ass blown so fucking hard that even other anons were calling out your stupidity.

>>219848854
because i kept taking your worthless ragebait since we were on such a bender, that's why. you had to invent this pathetic scenario where qui-gon would resort to theft with no evidence to support your theory and then continued to insist on it being the truth, of course the only option for me was to match your level of retard

>>219848854
>>219848908
is this the dork convention

>>219848908
>The movie literally shows Qui-gon trying to use the force to convince Watto to give up his part for monopoly money (theft)
>This is somehow an invented scenario
What kind of cognitive dissonance do you have to not recognize you are wrong? I didn't win the arguments because of a gotcha, I won because you're a retard that doesn't understand lateral thinking.

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There is a lot of twirling. It makes me feel dizzy and nauseous. On top of which, none of this twirling amounts to "a fight". It's like a dance number on Broadway, with no consequence whatever.

>>219848989
see, there you go again insisting that qui-gon convincing watto that his credits were good is somehow akin to theft, while qui-gon is literally attempting to spend money and watto was just being a shit.

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>>219849011
It's called choreography. And yes, it's called that on Broadway as well.

it would be good except that darth maul has no actual character to speak of outside of being a plot device

>>219844739
>40 seconds of cool in a 2 hour snoozefest = best shit ever
make this make sense

>>219849153
It's not even that cool. It's just a'ight.

>>219849063
Anon if I forced you to take Monopoly money for a car you were selling. Is that theft?

>>219849063
>is somehow akin to theft
nta but brainwashing a guy to take money he can't use is effectively stealing

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It seriously looks like they're just dancing
>I'M A DANCER
>A DANCER DANCES!

>>219844739
you don't get it, we used to drink out of a garden hose maaannn, we rode bicycles... with no helmet

>>219849208
if qui-gon was actually using funny money yes
he used a legitimate currency that just wasn't recognized by the local system. it's like going to north korea and using pesos.
>>219849243
see above
watto could get the money exchanged, he was just a lazy cunt because it would take effort, most likely having to go off-world, to get the amount exchanged properly for a local equivalent.

it still remains that qui-gon was paying more than he had to for the engine. so no, it isn't theft.

>>219844777
they have to avoid double kill, it's not fencing rules

>>219849354
>it's like going to north korea and using pesos.
Okay retard let me rephrase it then. If I FORCE you to take Soles to buy a car you're selling you are telling me it isn't theft even though I had to force you to take a currency not recognized by your country?

>>219849354
>watto could get the money exchanged
So we're making things up now?

>>219849354
>watto could get the money exchanged
Where is it ever implied this is the case? If that is the case then that just means Qui-gon could have done the same which then becomes a plothole.

>>219844739
Everything was so cool and good back then that this was dogshit. We had so much good stuff.

>>219849476
Yep. Current generations don't even know how bad they have it.

>>219844739
This is what put it at 6/10 all the jar jar and economic trade embargo bullshit is lame af 1/10 before these lightsaber duels.

>>219849476
>>219849572
Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon are owned by a single company today. Talk about the collapse of the illusion of choice. In the next few months, one of these networks will be closed down.

Kill yourself if your parents took you to this

>>219849654
bit extreme innit

>>219849672
I'm trying to be them haha

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Dark Maul still got it!

I was there opening day for ep 1 and 2. This was great but the rest of the movie was pretty forgettable. I think there was a moment during the podracing where the kid pkaying anakin says "yippee" and I felt bad for him.

>>219845769
That settles it, I'm playing movie duels tonight.

>>219849748
haha

>>219849772
Why were the kids in his year teasing him, they loved it

>>219849797
Kids are assholes, that's why

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>>219849011
fake fighting is dancing, but remember how much worse it can be

>>219849750
>>219849774
>>219849795
>>219849824
Did they get Ray to mocap this? Looks surprisingly on point to him in TPM

Out of the existing generations, Gen X is known to have the highest levels of lead, by a significant margin.

They’re literally retarded.

>>219849772
That was supposed to be enduringly for him anon

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>Lightsaber combat in the OT: Modled after kendo, slow, methodical strikes because one hit can kill or maim, emphasis on defense.
>Lightsaber combat in the PT: Picrel

Yeah it sucked.

>>219844739
hey zoom zoom can you tell me which subcontinent tends to like visually flashy spectacles with little to no narrative weight?

>>219849354
>Gets btfo again
Lmao

>>219850569
india, east asia and south-east asia. did i get it right?

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>>219850347
No. Shadow Lord doesn't use mocap. Last time they used Ray Park for mocap was Clone Wars Season 7. He is constantly drunk and crashes out online and posts revenge porn these days. He's completely lost it. It's very unlikely they will ever work with him again.

>>219844739
Gen Xers fell asleep before reaching that scene.

>>219844739
it was cool seeing it as an 8 year old

>>219851181
>still here
lmao

>>219845769
Hire fans.

>>219844739
Look how many times he turns his back to his opponent. Also, Sith dude had the HIGH GROUND!

>>219844777
They're being guided by the force so they just know how to move their hands so fast to intercept that it looks like that

>>219851749
But got arrogant and so did obi that's why he slipped. Figured that one out 20 years later

>>219851256
ding ding ding

>>219845241
I haven't watched the movie in a minute but iirc the security system was reset or damaged basically running through a cycle and the pits are like vents

>>219848673
>Qui-gon has numerous other options to get off Tatoonie or obtain the Nubian hyperdrive and uses none of them.
Such as?

>>219851783
that's the lore explanation
the other explanation is anon is retarded and needs to get laid

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>>219851900
1. Hire a spacer to take him and Padme to Coruscant. They would have need of republic credits and the rest of the crew could be left behind with Obi-wan as security to be rescued later when Padme and Qui-gon get to Coruscant.
2. Qui-gon could have simply stole the Hyperdrive in the dead of night. He already was willing to steal it via a mind trick. Even if Watto figured Qui-gon stole it the crew have landed out in the desert and no one would be able to find them fast enough before they fixed the ship and left.
3. Qui-gon could have gone to literally more than one dealer to see if anyone would be willing to use Republic Credits or was susceptible to mind tricks. Even if they didn't have the part he could exchange the currency.
4. Qui-gon could have offered to trade the Queen's ship for a working Junker.
He has so many options apart from doing a gay ass betting match relianted entirely on a child.

>>219844739
Anyone with an IQ over 100 did.

>>219852090
1. with what credits? remember you said he has monopoly money. no guarantee he'll find a pilot that'll accept republic credits AND they're trying to remain incognito, which means limited contact.
2. ah yes, he'll magically just float a fuckhuge hyperdrive and nobody, i mean NOBODY will see it happen because all of mos espa goes to bed at 10 o'clock sharp. stupid fuck lmao.
3. he could have and yet watto said nobody else around had the hyperdrive and guaranteed it, he wasn't lying. qui-gon had no choice but to deal with watto.
4. this is the first thing you've finally said that's actually a legitimate option. but then ask yourself, what kind of space pilot would buy a ship with no working hyperdrive? and voluntarily strand themselves on a planet with money they can't use? remember the ship didn't have enough to barter with for the hyperdrive, let alone swapping out with some random junker that would likely have a limited hyperdrive or be set to explode or something crazy.

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>>219844739
Gen X here. The Star Wars saga ended in 1983 with Return of the Jedi. Everything after that was just a money grab. A failed attempt to recapture the magic of the original trilogy.
Episode IV; Episode V; Episode VI; The End.

I was born in the late 80s and loved the original trilogy when I was a kid. When Episode I was released I was still a child, and I enjoyed it, but it wasn't really the same. I felt the same as the other prequels were released. I got more enjoyment out of KOTOR than any of them, but I didn't hate them. After rewatching everything later on in life, my conclusion is that the prequels are bad movies, and they're not something I'd ever care to watch again. As for the OT, I think the original film is the best. Empire is good, RotJ is decent but a clear downgrade. The OT is fine, but if I were to rewatch any of it, it would only be the original film. I think it's more interesting to watch just that and view it as a standalone film with no sequels, honestly.

>>219852251
>with what credits?
The credits have use in the republic, a spacer traveling to the republic will have need of those credits. Simple as.
>No guarantee of finding a spacer
No less guarantee of this than going to shops looking for the right hyper drive.
>they're trying to remain incognito
They can remain that way until reaching Coruscant. Once they're in the Capitol they have no reason to remain incognito and can complete their mission.
>2. ah yes, he'll magically just float a fuckhuge hyperdrive
Only need to do that to move it out of Watto's shop. Otherwise they can use a basic ass hoverlift to bring the drive back with them. Can cover it with a tarp if they want to be inconspicuous. It's not impossible to steal it and yeah in the dead of night not everyone is gonna be walking the streets to see that. Stay mad retard.
>watto said nobody else around had the hyperdrive and guaranteed it
Oldest merchant trick in the book. Never heard of false scarcity have you?
>qui-gon had no choice but to deal watto.
Even if Watto was the only one with a nubian Hyper drive he could still use a mind trick on a weak minded merchant to exhange his credits or just plain steal money to use at watto's shop.
>4.what kind of space pilot would buy a ship with no working hyperdrive?
A pilot? Probably not. But a merchant like Watto? Would probably love that ship and pay a good price, remember Qui-gon was going to use the ship as his entrance fee for the podrace.
>some random junker would likely have a limited hyperdrive
Star wars has never gave a limitation to hyperdrives you dumb fuck.

>>219852090
>He has so many options apart from doing a gay ass betting match relianted entirely on a child.
Uh it was The Force™ guiding him, so there.

>>219852471
>No less guarantee of this than going to shops looking for the right hyper drive.
better chance of staying hidden and buying the necessary parts than going cantina to cantina to find someone willing to go to the inner systems. you seem to forget that the outer rim is the space equivalent of the wild west and the inner rim is new york city, it's a long trip (even by star wars standards) and the odds are against you. nobody is gonna make a deep space trip without it being worth their while, and qui-gon & co have little to bargain with.
>Only need to do that to move it out of Watto's shop. Otherwise they can use a basic ass hoverlift to bring the drive back with them. Can cover it with a tarp if they want to be inconspicuous. It's not impossible to steal it and yeah in the dead of night not everyone is gonna be walking the streets to see that. Stay mad retard.
yeah because hoverlifts are just hanging around for people to grab and use. gotta buy that too and remember he's only got monopoly money.
>Oldest merchant trick in the book. Never heard of false scarcity have you?
the force would tell qui-gon if he was lying and he would move onto another shop, retard.
>Even if Watto was the only one with a nubian Hyper drive he could still use a mind trick on a weak minded merchant to exhange his credits or just plain steal money to use at watto's shop.
remember, qui-gon isn't a thief.
>A pilot? Probably not. But a merchant like Watto? Would probably love that ship and pay a good price, remember Qui-gon was going to use the ship as his entrance fee for the podrace.
qui-gon was playing watto's hand by bargaining with the ship. you're also assuming watto had a ship on hand to trade with, when no such circumstance was ever implied.
>Star wars has never gave a limitation to hyperdrives you dumb fuck.
ships have fuel, hyperdrives leak. limitations exist but are only used for plot purposes.

>>219844739
>but if pause it frame by frame, and without the sound that makes it flow together, it looks bad!

>>219844739
What is the watsonian purpose of this room?

>>219848707
>Boss Nass makes Jar Jar a general despite knowing his propensity to cause trouble because he "made peace with the Naboo" the complete opposite of what a combat general is needed for

Kek

>>219848673
>>Qui-gon's plan to obtain a Nubian Hyperdrive is completely convoluted and takes up way too much time that he admittedly doesn't have.
>>Qui-gon has numerous other options to get off Tatoonie or obtain the Nubian hyperdrive and uses none of them.
Qui-gon was deeply in touch with the force and acting on the instinct it was giving him which was to use the boy and take him
>>There is no visual evidence that the blockade negatively impacts naboo.
>There is no visual indication Naboo is suffering under the TF occupation.
not relevant, this is a silly nitpick. It can safely be assumed blockades are bad and you dont want them on your planet.

cont

>>219853946
>remember, qui-gon isn't a thief.

His first move when Watto didnt accept the credits was trying to mentally control him into accept worthless currency, which, had it worked, would've left Watto without the parts in exchange of nothing. What is that if not stealing?

>>219844739
And they lie and say the entire fight was too fast and that's why it's bad, when in reality, the fight went through a lot of different stages and there were periods of cooling off and heating back up again that made perfect sense narratively. This lightsaber fight had the same kind of interesting dynamics that the ones in the original trilogy are praised for having, because of how the duel determined Anakin's fate. You can feel the anxiety watching an exhausted Qui-Gon go up against Maul alone, and the sadness when he dies knowing that Anakin needs him.

Now, the lightsaber fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin in III actually made no sense and was basically everything that gen X said that this one was, but of course that's the one that everyone loves because they were told that they were allowed to.

>>219844760
What's bad about this scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwP6iBCmBPY

>>219854411
Part of what's great about Star Wars is that it's unclear what the purpose of certain things are, but you know that they have a purpose and can make inferences about them. Star Wars fans seem to not understand this at all, and try to create solid, tangible meanings behind every little thing.

>>219849824
>slides in along the floor to lay on the ground to block
stupid

>>219852270
I and II feel like the original trilogy to me. The only one that seems tonally completely unlike Star Wars is Revenge of the Sith, which feels like a weird biopic. There's very little space travel in that movie, and the only times you get to see the rest of the galaxy for the most part are when it's moving away from the main story, which is a dumb conflicted guy walking around a city. I feel like it doesn't really exist because of not only how dumb the story is but how completely different it feels from the other five in the saga. The Star Wars saga to me is five films with a missing third installment.

>>219844760
>podrace fuggin epic
>Naboo scenes pretty and idillic
>underwater scenes fun as hell
>droid battle seen cool as fuck but also has just the right touch of comic relief
>whole movie has amazing fast pacing
yeah ok Mike

>>219844777
Should have got Corey Yuen as action director

>>219851579
Haha true

pretty much everyone loved ep 1 when it came out apart from Jar-Jar binks (huge controversy) and the autistis who didnt like mediclorians. Episode 2 was the one where people got up afterward and were loudly saying how shit it was. ep 3 was again liked by most people.

>>219855294
And episode III is just everything people hated about I and II except way, way worse and with no good story attached to it, which I and II had. But again, people liked it because they were allowed to. They weren't allowed to like Attack of the Clones, despite it being probably the strongest prequel.

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Watching this movie made me respect Ewan McGregor as an actor way more than the dudes who can be a sociopath in front of a camera. I love when an actor is dedicated to the craft which is why I like Keanu Reeves so much.
>It's not realistic
Neither were Kung Fu movies from the 80s and I don't see people talking shit about them.

>>219844739
>Millennials who saw this when they were 5 "Yo this is the coolest shit ever"

>>219844739
*boomer millenials

>>219855644
Wrong, it’s reddit millenials that always trash the prequels