He's not going to get away with it.
he has to pay some im sorry money? oh no thats so horrible.
>>219848449>Alec Baldwin>not bald>not going to winwho writes this shit?
>>219848449I don't understand why he would be charged with negligence, it's literally not his job, that's what safety people are for. Not trying to defend a-list millionaire celebs but it doesn't seem fair in this case.
this is an Alec board fuck that hohol bitch
>>219848449But he took that family to Denny’s though
>>219848476He pulled the trigger.The buck stops with him.
>>219848449>Mangione trial starts in June>Karmelo Anthony trial starts in June>Baldwin getting ANOTHER trialSo much courtkino I can't even begin to describe, law students must be amped
how did the fbi destroy the gun, are they retarded or was that on purpose?
>>219848476he is still the main producer of the movie and technically the employer of the safety people
>>219848599I didn't know that actually. Well, I hope he's prepared to Baldlose.
>>219848561What is Melo going to court for? LeMickey slander?
>>219848473jej
>>219848637The nigger has been charged with first degree murder with a guaranteed life imprisonment sentence with no possibility of parole.
>>219848637being a trey regular season merchant
>>219848449> Producer-lead actor of a movie walks away from any responsibility for a death from the barrel of his prop gun.
>>219848684>thought it I was going to read about Melo finally killing coach Karl>some different nignog
>>219848476People say he refused firearm safety training. Apparently, he shouldn't have pointed the gun directly at anyone while firing (even with blanks).
i'll find you OP
Why do they even manufacture prop guns to be capable of firing real bullets to begin with?
>>219848929what if you need to shoot someone?
>>219848914Gonna kill me too Alec? You can't silence everyone.
>>219848929It was a real gun.
>>219848983Why wouldn't you use a prop gun in a movie? It sounds like needless risk to use real guns because things like this might happen.
>Alec walks into the courtroom>immediately shoots a bailiff>judge: 'now now, Mr. Baldwin, that was uncalled for.'>the trial continues as the pool of blood under the dead bailiff slowly grows>'prosecutor, your opening statement?'>'thank you, your honor. first, I would like to-' >bang>one of the jury members collapses from a gunshot wound>'uh, objection, your honor?'>'sustained. Mr. Baldwin, please do not interrupt opening statements.'>later>'your honor, for my first witness I would like to call-'>bang>'uh...ok nevermind, my second witness-'>bang>'...maybe I should just tell my other two witnesses to go h-'>bang bang>later>'prosecutor, your closing arguments please.'>'thank you, your honor. remaining members of the jury, you've seen Mr. Baldwin murder several people with your own eyes, I hope that is enough to convince you that he is guilty as ch-'>bang>judge: 'saw that coming. defense counsel, your closing arguments?'>'thank you your hon-'>Alec shoots his own lawyer>'oh Alec. what are we going to do with you?'>the judge wags his finger at Alec as he walks out of the courtroom, shooting people at random
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>>219848891So you're saying in a show about cowboys, he should be firing sideways and then CGI the bullets curving to hit the target? Come on now. The Propmaster dicked around with the gun before the shoot when she shouldn't have. She then did not return the gun to a safe state and gave it to Baldwin, who rightly thought it was made safe for shooting. He was therefore not guilty of killing the other actor. Having said that, he was in charge of the film production. As captain of the ship, he is ultimately responsible for anything that happened under his watch, so this lawsuit is to claim civil damages against his company, with him as the figurehead. Most likely they will settle out of court and he will claim insurance money to pay it.
>>219848476apparently saying>HEY HALYNA EAT LEAD YOU BLASPHEMOUS WHORE SEE YOU IN HELL CUNTright before pulling the trigger of a gun pointed at someone doesn't make it seem all too negligent
>>219848476>it's literally not his jobHe was the producer, it was literally his job.
>>219848476As the producer and being the owner of the production company he is the boss.If he was just an actor it would be different.
>>219848929>prop guns
>>219849035guns that fire blanks can fire live rounds too, the difference is in the ammo not the weapon. CGI gun effects are cancer and look like shit, the problem was that the armorer was a 25 year old nepo baby who let the production crew play with the guns off set using live ammo and then never checked them back on to the set
>Look up Baldwin's movies since the Rust shooting>Can only get supporting roles in B movies now Goddamn he had a MeToo like fall after that shooting
>>219849517You can absolutely build a prop gun that looks identical to a real gun but only has the ability to make big loud boom scary pew pew sounds without having a functional barrel. Don't give me that bullshit.
>star in a sci fi tv show>shoot alien with laser gun>a real laser kills a dude in a green ape suit>life ruinedWhat do?
>>219848476civil trial is one thing so I'll let them bill him if they see fit, as far as the criminal trial goes he was 100% innocent, its the armorer's fault real bullets were anywhere near the set and theres no reason an actor would even think it was possible that they'd have real bullets lying around, its insane to think so
>>219849552It’s funny because Rust was Jensen Ackles’ first big role following Supernatural and then he pivoted to The Boys.
>>219849552Killing one person and wounding another is bit more than metoo shit
Is /tv/ just bots now? This is 2 years old "news" at minimum. He already got away with it.
>>219849660Rape is worse than murder.
>>219849035Because prop guns unsurprisingly look like prop guns up close.And in this case it was a scene where the gun was a large part of the screen space.
>>219849683women are literally hardcoded to let assailants rape them as a way to avoid being killed, so feminists are going to be fighting an uphill battle on this one
>>219849872Ok and? Who gives a fuck? Your bing bing wahoo is less important than people's lives.
>>219849669Worse. Obsessive nerds who were personally offended that this guy hates their daddy, and it's still important to them
>>219849988You lost, tranny.
>>219849959Wrong, the lives of Hollywood parasites are meaningless, guns are forever.
>>219850025Take the L and accept a less realistic looking movie in return for the safety of the people filming it.
>>219849959actually, it isn't. my bing bing wahoo is worth a thousand human lives, or a million if they're not white.
>>219850054No, take this bullet instead, homo.
>>219850087>>219850081>>219850025t. Alec
>>219850054the safety of other people that aren't my mother has a value of 0 (zero) to me.
>>219848473Alec Hairloss
>>219850116>doesn't suffer from hairloss
>>219848476>a-listEasy there, Alec.
>>219849035What if alec baldwin has a gun and is going to shoot you and all you have is a prop gun that can't shoot real ammo?
>>219850008Say the line and dance, monkey
>>219848449Didn't he take the family out for a breakfast? That's got to make up for it surely.
>>219848476I got so sick of explaining basic gun etiquette to retards like you in pol when this was happeningThe litmus test is this. If the scene involved you aiming at your own head and pulling the trigger of a real firearm, would you check?
>>219849936human beings are capable of rationalizing what they experience. a biological instinct of survival doesn't take precedence in importance just because it overrides anything else biologically. to be dehumanized and humiliated to the point of utterly objectifying an individual is categorically worse than to just end a life, it's lessening it to meaninglessness. suicide rates in rape victims back this up.
>>219848449Are we STILL talking about this shit 16 years later? goddammNot directed at OP but just in general.
>>219850250the family thought denny's still had the hobbit menu for some reason and were angry and did not accept the apology
>>219849392Agreed on almost all points and I was a vindictive dickhead that wanted him to lose the last case. Logically speaking, me caveat would be around how close he was to someone when he shot the blank, because I know that within 5 feet it's able to be lethal and with 20 it will still cause serious harm.Regarding your very first sentence, no, CGI isn't required and standard practice is to aim too the side of a person and it's indistinguishable from aiming directly at them from the camera's perspective. I have no idea the range involved in this scene. If it was close up and he knowingly detonated an explosive directed at a person, he's guilty of negligence at least. I'm not assuming that's the setup and I lost interest in the case so I'm not invested either way (I'm still a vindictive dickhead, I just don't care at all about this guy/case anymore, especially if the stakes are just monetary.)
>>219848476One of the number one rules of gun safety is to not point and pull the trigger at someone unless you yourself just checked it.
>>219848449What if he just shoots the judge? How will he get convicted then?
>>219850441People here literally don’t seem to understand that. They think having other people to do it for you absolves you of responsibility but this situation is literally why that rule exists in the first place.
>>219850258My head is more important than someone elses head.
>>219848449>From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. Truth is... the game was rigged from the start
>>219850564I would have respected Alec more during the trial if he just admitted that
>>219850280my point is that having moral values that are in direct opposition to your most fundamental instincts is just going to make you hopelessly neurotic. it's like how male feminists will swear up and down that they could never even imagine being attracted to a 17.99yo but if a hot high schooler touched them their own bodies would instantly betray their principles. morals are just human inventions, so why invent ones that actively make you suffer cognitive dissonance?>to be dehumanized and humiliated to the point of utterly objectifying an individual is categorically worsesee, only because you made this stuff up that way. these are just socially constructed standards of how a woman is "supposed" to feel after a rape, and they are unironically "patriarchal" in origin. your cavewoman ancestor got "raped" a bunch of times and she didn't become traumatized by it because you weren't there to teach her she's supposed to be. she didn't jump off a cliff from made-up "objectification," her body just felt bad at first and then it felt good and that was it. all this "trauma" isn't induced by a dick going in a hole, it's actively constructed through a process of neurotic self-examination. why teach people ways of processing experience that maximize suffering?
>>219849392Yeah, she's already been convicted. She was employed as armourer and prop master to save costs.You don't always need cgi though, you can just film at different angles and aim past the person.
>>219848449It's a civil court trial, he already got away with it.
>>219850718>morals are just human inventions, so why invent ones that actively make you suffer cognitive dissonanceit's not cognitive dissonance, it's the struggle between the ideal and matter, the primary drive of man since his intellectual awakening. the example you provided lacks understanding of this, man shouldn't say he isn't attracted to what he instinctively is (nevermind what online orbiter faggots say), he holds that he shouldn't give in to his physical impulses because he has morals that advise him against, and they're only so if they're genuine. your second paragraph recalls a time before an articulated understanding of these mechanics of the spirit, and as such aren't in accordance with the culmination of centuries of contemplating these truths.> why teach people ways of processing experience that maximize suffering?your boiling down of these things to purely physical experiences with no repercussions on the soul, and therefore community, tells me all I needed to know. You are a hylic.
>>219848473Kek
>>219848449Wow a super rich millionaire old man might have to pay a tiny fraction of his money to someone. What incredible stakes here very invested in whether he'll have to do it or not..
>>219848476He's not "charged" with anything it's a civil suit
>>219848449The person suing him is a gaffer claiming emotional distress lol
>>219850564Based actual retard.
>>219848449But the survivors got dennys
that hatchet was buried at denny's.
>>219850718>morals are just human inventions, so why invent ones that actively make you suffer cognitive dissonance?Because they raise us above our basic instincts. Your definition eliminates morals altogether and you're basically a fucking animal.
>>219848476how many times does this discussion have to be repeated?
>>219848449uh oh, Mike.
>>219849335Just needs a call for a lunch recess at Denny's to bring it all together
>>219848449I guess that docu movie about his family wasn't good enough to win some sympathy
>>219851619Alec was already charged and had a trial, the judge just dismissed it with prejudice in the middle of trial due to prosecutor misconduct so alec was wrong that he wouldnt get charged.
Alec Baldwin will kill again
>>219851619>I'll find you Mike.
>>219848476you don't get to shoot people because you hired a mook to take the blamehe had to pay the judge and prosecutor off
>>219851672Did you know Alec Baldwin has SEVEN KIDS?Say what you will about the man, but he just does not shoot blanks.
>>219848476Being the producer means it was his job to vet the safety person, though I do feel like things are getting a little heated. This all started with everyone suspecting that he purposely loaded the gun to murder her.
>>219848637It's a black kid named after the NBA guy who murdered a kid. Libs tried to Floyd him because they were high on Trump Derangement Syndrome but it didn't work
>>219848929It's cheaper to buy real guns and then resell them to gun afficinados so they not only use guns but can't modify them to be unusable. I don't see why they should ever have live ammunition on set, though. Even if they want to get sound bites for later that should be a different day. There's no reason to ever have live ammo and be firing it in the props
>>219851343>he holds that he shouldn't give in to his physical impulses because he has morals that advise him againstbut those aren't the morals of today, today's morals are that he shouldn't feel the impulse in the first place and if he does he's already unforgivably evil, which is certain to make him insane. your response is weird because i'm attacking feminism and therapy culture but what you're defending is premodern morality which a. doesn't exist anymore and b. has led us here. you don't get to roll back to an arbitrary past version of western culture. "centuries of contemplation" have led us to the idea that everything is rape and that we need to go extinct to stop it. is that where you wanted to end up?also>an articulated understanding of these mechanics of the spiritsee, you apparently believe the feminist concept of "sexual objectification" got beamed down here from the spirit world. i don't. feminism was built, it's a technology, like the wheel, except instead of letting us move from place to place it lets us sit there and suffer. why did we invent that?>>219851578>Your definition eliminates morals altogetherno it doesn't. you are still free to construct whatever rules you want for interpersonal conduct, i just don't see why you have to specifically invent fake things like "objectification," "dehumanization" and so forth, which are basically new forms of man-made suffering. why have a giant cultural industry gaslighting raped women into feeling worse instead of better? those are some pretty nuty morals.
>>219852081>There's no reason to ever have live ammo and be firing it in the propsWhat if you need to defend yourself against a murderous Alec Baldwin on set?
>>219848449>RushI thought he gave up and moved on to Fil-C
>>219852278>is that where you wanted to end up?Where I am ending up is in showing that dehumanizing practices can and most often do take precedence over biological impulses in civilizaitonal importance, and trying to conflate such a longlived and ample movement as feminism to and only to "therapy culture" tells me you're trying to strawman it into a radical perception not shared by the overwhelming majority of people. Sexual objectification is not a new concept.
>>219848449I don't like him but I don't think he did anything wrong. Sounds like a cash grab.
>>219853779>literally shot a woman dead with his own hands
>>219848561Daniel Larson in July
>>219849392I've been saying this for years
>>219848476I agree, he's a massive faggot but the incident was 100% a regrettable mistake and I won't sacrifice gun rights just to pwn one TDS loser
>>21984939m8, figuring out how to shoot at a camera safely was figured outone hundred and twenty three (123) years ago. the technology, this great, special peice of equipment (a mirror at a 45 degree angle), can be purchased off amazon for the high high price of about 9.95 (not including shipping and handling).>>219849583it says in sag-aftras firearms handling procedures that an actor should become comfortable with the loading and unloading of any weapons they instead to use on set.anyways, its hiarious if you just read about the timeline of events>MULTIPLE negligent discharges, some resulting in injuries>literally less then 24 hours before the shooting half crew walks off set because of concerns about gun safety>baldwin personally fires their asses and bus'es in a load of non-unionized workers, fuck safety conc->armorer isnt even on set>no one qualified to handle the guns are even within sight>HEY YOU NON-UNION CREW MEMBER WHOSE BEEN HERE LESS THEN 12 HOURS HAND BE THAT LOADED WEAPON>BOOM HEADSHOT>BOOM DOUBLE HEADSHOT
>>219852368we hire a bigger, faster Alec Baldwin
