I want tradecraft kino's to watch tonight.
>>219850538I really didn't like the second half of this movie. Why the fuck are we supposed to feel sad that the soviet leader will be killed because he is a jew? Because he is "idealistic" (these actually tend to be more bloodthirsty and incapable of compromise than pragmatic leaders)? Why did the main character even cares? he knew from the beginning that the objective was to oust a soviet leader by framing him as a mole, nothing about the plan changed for him except the name of the leader
>>219851105I didn't care about the Soviet characters at all. They were just doing a job like the Brits. I only cared about the lead becaus see we see everything from his perspective to fully appreciate the disillusionment in the cause.
>>219851171I care about the cute British commie girl because I'm not a homo like you.
>>219851246You care about her because the lead does. He sees how they're both just pawns. I think she's actually still alive amazingly.
>>219851105>Why did the main character even cares?He does? He yells at Nan for trying to shame him for being a patsy and a bait. He is pretty sober about what game he was playing.
>>219851171Yeah but nothing for him changed, the mission he accepted and the means to complete it were basically the ones he agreed to, except the name of the target changed (he was still a Soviet leader) and the girl was also used (her death was after his "kill the jew!" spiel, so I'm not counting it as a valid reason for his disillusionment with the cause). It was just kind of a baffling development, I get where they were trying to go and it could have been really good if they had pulled it off but it just rang hollow. I don't know maybe it's just the fact that it's no longer 1965, maybe when the holocaust was fresh in the collective European memory, and communism was still seen as an idealistic goal left down by corrupt leaders(the revolution betrayed and all that) the fact the leader was a jew and idealistic were seen as good enough reasons to get disillusioned with the job you signed up on knowing all that it entailed
>>219850538Factotum
>>219851371The monologue is very obviously seeped in self-hatred, he describes the operation as foul, says he saved an evil man that yesterday he wanted to kill, and laments that the other guy died instead as if he was some kind of saint or something. It all just sounds hollow, maybe in 1965 hearing that spies are reprobates without morals was transcent but nowadays I was just like "d'uh why the hell are you having a crisis of conscience about it?"
>>219851371>that subtitle font & colourHorrendous.
>>219851869>he describes the operation as foulYeah I wonder why. It's not that he was a human dummy who was in a blind setup from the start in order to turn tables on Fiedler.>why the hell are you having a crisis of conscience about itAnon, he is not having a crisis of conscious, he is mad that they played him from the start and also grieves that he fool and would he expect anything other than this from people like him. You pretending that it's "just another name, why would he be mad" is so baffling, considering the actual events. I mean, it's not like he got incarcerated over that with their plan to get him out of this was just to "jump the wall."Yikes. Unlucky, Leamas. But why would you care lmao? It's not like it was us who put into this situation.
