Doctor Who!
Peter Capaldi is the most overrated Doctor.
>>219858784bong slop
Peter Capaldi is the most underrated Doctor.
>>219858846Don't you have a new episode of The Boys to watch, Chet?
>>219858784>Jodie Whittaker: The Doctor who broke the rulesRules like "the show should be good" and "the main character shouldn't be terrible" or "the writing shouldn't be absolute dogshit". So brave>>219858874He was the best possible casting for the role but the water had been poisened by years of "the doctor should be a heartthrob for the young female audience"; he was fucking wasted int eh role and it sstill makes me angry that Moffat just gave him the same old shit
>>219858874>Paul McGann is the most underrated Doctor.ftfy
>>219858784Where is the african doctor?
>>219860249He was renamed to "The Patient" due to his constant visits to the proctologist.
>>219860211Best TARDIS too
>>219858840Not compared to Matt Smith
>>219860427Gothic stately home Tardis. Peak comfy.
>>219858840Nah. Jon Pertwee and David Tennant. Especially David Tennant.
>>219858784The first black version of The Doctor was a flaming homosexual.Was it racism? Intentional sabotage? A humiliation ritual?
im a newfag getting into doctor who. reddit keeps telling me to start with christopher eccleston but episode one fucking sucks. is this going to get better or am i wasting my time.
>>219858896BIGENERATION?!!! OH LAWDY LAAWWWWD
>>219861493>bongs unironically watch this shit
>>219861549Depends on your tastes. Every era is kind of it's own thingYou could try watching some of the 60's and 70's stuff, and see if that grabs you better, or just jump forward to Matt Smith.If you want to watch the most quintessential episode of Doctor Who it's either the Daleks with Hartnell, or Genesis of the Daleks with Baker.
>>219861461Capaldi is the poser's choice for their favourite revival Doctor. He's okay as a Doctor, but his era of the show sucked.
>>219861611You can say that about basically every era. Especially David Tennant. Tennant legitimately has like three episodes he doesn't ruin with his manic over acting, or that Russel doesn't ruin by going full retard.
>>219861630With Tennant I at least liked more of the episodes in his era than I did with Capaldi where I liked more of his Series 8 stuff but Series 9 and 10 are generally very weak with the couple of notable exceptions.
>>219861672Yeah but with Capaldi, when it works, it works. With Tennant the best you ever get is a good episode where they effectively manage to restrain David Tennant from being David Tennant. Blink, Human Nature, Midnight. What do these have in common? The Doctor is either hardly in them, or hardly the Doctor.
>>219861724With Capaldi it's like getting a glimmer of something good in a pile of shit. He's bogged down by nearly everything else around him, and I don't think you can separate a Doctor from his era. Especially one that doesn't really have anything outside of his TV appearances. Every Doctor has their shit episodes, but chances are if you forced me to watch through a random Tennant series and a random Capaldi series I'd enjoy Tennant's more despite some of the shit episodes he had. A Doctor that mainly works in a best of compilation like Capaldi to get all of his great moments without the tedium in-between doesn't deserve all of the acclaim.
>existential puppet musicals
>try nuWho a few times>can't get into it whatsoever>try classic>absolute gigakino for the most partThere's something about the presentation of nuWho that bugs the shite out of me. Even with great actors like Eccleston and Capaldi in the role, there's something that seems to drag the experience down. I never get that feeling with the classic stuff, even with the dodgy effects. Also, Morgus is based.
>>219861941I think what happened is in the time between the early 80's and the reboot, Doctor Who came to be regarded as a campy franchise, and that perception of the franchise was intentionally baked in when they brought it back. Things like the idea that the aliens are supposed to look funny, or the way the writing will kind of wink at the audience and make fun of it's own conventions. That stuff wasn't there in the original series (at least until the 80's). They were genuinely just trying to make a good science fiction show.You also have the aspect of fanboyism seeping into the writing. Writers like RTD and Moffat writing the Doctor as what percieve him as in their imaginations, which is the greatest hero of all time. Go back to the original series, and he's not that. That's just not the character. He's basically an anti-hero who wants to joyride around the universe and sight-see, and he keeps getting roped into adventures. There's a repeated motif in the original series of him running away, abandoning his friends (once they're in relative safety), or trying to shrug out of duties that have been assigned to him. Modern Doctors never do shit like that.
>>219858840That's Tennant.
>>219862087>I think what happened is in the time between the early 80's and the reboot, Doctor Who came to be regarded as a campy franchise, and that perception of the franchise was intentionally baked in when they brought it back.Exactly this. Branding the show as a "kids/family friendly" show has done so much harm to the sense of storytelling.>There's a repeated motif in the original series of him running away, abandoning his friends (once they're in relative safety), or trying to shrug out of duties that have been assigned to him. Modern Doctors never do shit like that.The funniest part is, that's one of the few things that's been consistent between the old and modern eras, only the context has changed. Nowadays everything he does is for the greater good, even when it's alluded to being selfish.
>>219858905Moffat gave him the best episode of the entire show.
>>219861549You wont like the Slitheen episodes where there is more toilet humour.
>>219861611Capaldi's era is the best of the entire show.
>>219861941You're just a grandpa, classic who is mostly slow and padded.
>>219861569Why does he have to have that hair?
>>219863238not like in the old series. The new series will have the Doctor grapple with the morality of what he does to his companions' lives, and then ultimately do right by them. In the old series, the Doctor would often just wander off. He never came back for Harry Sullivan or Sarah Jane. He left UNIT to defend Earth on their own as soon as his Tardis was operational. He straight up just left Peri in deep space, as the wife of a morally questionable smuggler. That's who the Doctor is. He's just innately a little bit selfish and disinterested, and he doesn't necessarily always choose to do the responsible thing, over indulging his own whims.
>>219861611>somewhere there's a universe where series 6 and 7 were as great as series 5Fuck....
>>219858846what isn't slop in bread and circus?
>>2198638736 is better than 5.
>>219863701It’s hair flanderization
>>219863979Most of series 6 is worse than series 5. I even enjoy the somewhat more polarizing series 6 episodes like The Doctor's Wife and Rebel Flesh / The Almost People and I'm saying that.
Last night I decided to watch the 50th anniversary when I haven't seen anything Doctor Who in a long whileThe whole reveal that they'd be saving Gallifrey isn't really as cool now that I know it just ingloriously gets destroyed again later.Also I watched the 1996 film for the first time. The fact that the 7th doctor just randomly gets gunned down was just so funny
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>>219861589Actually, anon, I got news for you.
>>219864970I've been coming around on the TV movie. It's still pretty bad, but I respect the effort to do something kind of moody and dark with Doctor Who. In retrospect, I'd rather we had gone down that path, rather than having it become an increasingly camp farce.
>>219863528>muh old peopleGo be a faggot elsewhere.
>>219865969I am super straight grandpafag.
>>219865413The movie was really back and forth for meThe beginning was kinda coolThen there's a long stretch where Grace won't believe the Doctor and tries to get him institutionalized that just drags. ffs she saw he had two hearts and came back to life, i'm not really sure why she's acting like he's just delusional.Then them running around town to get the clock piece was pretty coolThen the Master showdown in the Tardis just goes on and onIt was kinda cool to have a different take on Doctor Who with romance and guns. Not saying it's what they should've gone with at all, but it was a novel concept to see American Doctor Who. Also I really liked the 8th doctor, such a shame he really only appears in the movie.
>>219858874Eccleston is the most underrated Doctor. Pains me to see Americans telling other Americans to skip Series 1 and go straight to Tennant. Capaldi was good too, though. Only way I can still enjoy rewatching this series is to pretend it ended with S10.
>>219864206>Rebel Flesh / The Almost People I liked this one. Never quite understood the hate for it (aside from the CGI being a bit shit). >The Doctor’s Wife A decent episode, but don’t agree with the 9 or 10/10 reviews it regularly gets. I suspect a lot of it is from Gaiman fans.
>>219858840I didn't watch his episodes because he seems like a boring grandpa
>>219865372The showrunner has now explicitly said it’s a gay show for gays. Basically, he’s salting the earth on his way out knowing that the main audience for this show is young boys who won’t touch anything with that label.
>>219866287You watch faggot propaganda made by a faggot for other faggots. You are, in fact, a faggot.
>>219866892At the very least, Eccleston had the best Dalek episodes, and he plays dark and troubled better than Tennent, who comes off like a child throwing a tantrum.
>>219858905A woman Doctor Who was never going to work, because the young boys who make up a substantial proportion of the show’s audience don’t want to be seen watching a show for girls. It’s the same reason Zesty Who didn’t work. On top of all that, Whittaker just wasn’t convincing in the role. You need to cast someone with screen presence, the ‘it factor’ or whatever you want to call it. Someone who is not only charismatic, but also believable as the smartest person in any room. I blame the showrunners, though. The casting decisions as well as the writing are on them.
>>219865316Is it really that easy to kill a Timelord?
>>219866977I know. I don't even like Dr. Who, but I'm sad another pillar of sci-fi's been destroyed.
>>219866833He appears a couple more times later in the show.
>>219867232I think it could have worked. But the casting would’ve had to be ridiculously good.
>>219867010Doctor Who was always a gay show.
>>219867261If they are on their last life then yes.
>>219867261No, its not. He would've been fine eventually if this stupid bitch hadn't started sticking bits of metal in his hearts.
Does Doctor Who have the most raped fandom in existence?Even on platforms where shitting on nu-Trek and nu-Wars is the norm, whovians who eat the modern slop seem to vastly outnumber the puristsOr have they simply given up altogether?
>>219867437Aren't most Dr. Who fan bongistanis? They've a long, proud tradition of being raped, don't you know.
>>219866933>A decent episode, but don’t agree with the 9 or 10/10 reviews it regularly gets. I suspect a lot of it is from Gaiman fans.I like it for a lot of reasons, but the main ones are that its stakes are relatively low other than the Doctor and companions not dying, the antagonist being creepy as shit, and Neil Gaiman being the first writer in the entire revived show that remembers the TARDIS is more than just 1 room. The dialogue is pretty good too.Ironically the thing I dislike the most about the episode is the TARDIS in Human form. She's too quirky.
>>219867476Yeah though Moffat made it big in America.
>>219861549That episode is not a highpoint, it absolutely gets better, yes. It also gets worse. DW has some very high highs and very low lows. Eccleston is a great Doctor but he only has like two episodes I'd consider really good, a couple decent ones, and then there's some stupid shit like Victorian ghosts and farting green niggas. Show picks up with Tennant, gets absolutely gigakino towards the end of his run (his initial run, not his subsequent retarded cameos). Smith is also really good, but towards the end of his run is where you see a massive fall off in quality. Anons here cum their pants over Capaldi but honestly most of his episodes are complete dogshit, not because of him, but because the writing had simply crapped out at that point. Beyond Capaldi is so worthless it's not even worth talking about.
>>219867437Whovians are giga autists and Doctor Who is their special interest. They will scarf down every turd that the show gives them. But you have to understand it is a relatively small fandom, way smaller than trekkies. Doctor Who has always been, especially from the reboot on, a show that was massively popular with normies. Everybody in the UK would tune into DW during it's peak. Once it became shit, the viewership basically ceased to exist because the hardcore fanbase is so tiny.Trek has a much bigger fandom, but much less autistic overall and much less willing to put up with complete garbage, so the number of people in the fanbase that give up on nutrek garbage ends up dwarfing the minority of gay redditors that continue to pretend that it is good.
>>219867751Capaldi had the best writing on the entire show.
>>219867887You're fucking delusional. Ok ok he had Heaven Sent. That's literally fucking it, and even then I think it's overrated. But one episode doesn't outweigh most of the run being dogshit. THE MOON IS AN EGG. YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR OXYGEN BECAUSE CAPITALISM. Come on bruh.
>>219861549when i started watching the show many years ago when matt smith episodes were airing on tv still, i skiped all of Eccleston and just started with david tennet. never understood him as being cast as a doctor. never liked still dont. tennet and matt smith are much better.
>>219867932He had better writing than the Tennant era.
I prefer Doctor Who to Star Trek, because I am Solipsist.
>>219867261If I remember correctly Missy tells someone exactly how to gun down a Timelord, something about the head and both hearts.
>>219867437I don't know much about the Star Trek fandom but it could be a lot worse than people passionately criticizing it. Star Wars is just so fucking bleak. Everyone's been beaten down so much that people don't even complain anymore, everyone's just left.Hell it's been 7 years since Star Wars was in theaters and they're finally churning out some mediocre slop next months and no one cares. It's just apathy all around and it can't get any worse than that and I'll say that the 14th doctor just being Tennant again, the new special doctor just being Rose, I'm starting to just not care anymore. The current state of things is just embarrassing
>>219867955Tennant had Waters of Mars, Satan Pit, Midnight, Silence in the Library, Family of Blood, Blink, Girl in the Fireplace, Turn Left, The End of Time. His run was fucking bursting with kino. And the characters were actually good, so you cared about the arcs even if they were cheesy. Capaldi had nowhere near as many good episodes. It's not shitting on him as an actor, but he wasn't given as much material to work with
>>219868132>Satan Pit, Blink, Girl in the Fireplace, Turn LeftOverrated, Extremis is better than them.
>>219868237>le simulation>defeat the aliens with the power of loveExtremis was empty hype and absolutely not better than those episodes I listed.
>>219868292World Enough and Time is better than all of those too.
>>219867437The Doctor Who fanbase, especially the classic Doctor Who fanbase who are also the biggest defenders of the current show had already gone through a decline. Moreover there's a fear in the mind of some classic fans of the show ending again, that the show MUST continue because of trauma from when the show ended before.
>>219868021The John Wick method then?
>>219867947Well you should because he's the only nu-Who Doctor who's actually based
>>219860427looking forward to the 4k release so much bros.>>219868525Least deserved doctorate
>>219858846goyscran
>>219858784I stopped watching a few eps into the Smith era. He was too gay and lolsorandom
>>219868525Doctor of Applied Bumsex.
>>219866833If you want more 8th Doctor, the Big Finish audios are considered his best material.
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>>219868644He is straighter than 10.
>>219858840FPBPMost of his episodes are dogshit (almost all of series 8 except Listen and Flatline, Dalek two parter, Hell Bent, all his Christmas specials the Monk trilogy, Twice Upon a Time)
>>219861874My problem with Capaldi is they didn’t know what to do with him, the arc of the first series is if he’s a good guy and it culminates in Missy going:>”Doctor, it’s time to prove if you’re a good guy. I offer you an army of Cybermen, do you accept?”>”No.”Great storytelling. Then they just abandon that and he’s playing guitar and being a good grandpa because the asshole Doctor gimmick flopped and it was cringe.
>>219869864Him playing the guitar is kino.
>>219871224If kino changed its definition to gay then sure
>>219861941Classic Series>Meant to be disposable trash>Is mostly kinoNew Series>Meant to be kino>Is mostly disposable trashmany such cases
I like Matt Smith's era the most out of nu-Who
>>219867437the worst part about Doctor Who is that it was actually the FIRST fandom to get raped, but because it happened all the way back in 2005 they just never realised it.imagine if 95% of Star Wars fans were still defending the prequels even if the prequels had already been made by Disney and already had everything people hated in the Sequels. that's Doctor Who.
>>219867476RENT FREE
>>219861493Being gay is black culture.
haven't watched "Season 2" yet, when is Shooty N'wah fucking off? what's upcoming?
>>219871434I'm too white to live rent free in bongistan.
>>219871429No that’s retarded, a lot of NuWho was good up to mid-Moffat. Series 3 and 4 of Tennant was kino especially
>>21987129310's personality is gay.
>>219871413It was the least woke of nuwho.>>219871484He already has.
>>219871598>calls 10 gay>only Doctor who has canonically gotten pussy from his companionsRiver doesn’t count btw she whored herself out to all of them
>>219871564anon, you have no idea what you are talking about. NuWho is a travesty of true Doctor Who made by gays and pseuds for girls and trannies.it's not because you liked it when you were 9 that it's actually good.
>>219858784>those view numbersLMAO
>>219871621what the fuck cunt? it's billie piper?
>>21987164810 never had sex.
>>219866892Eccleston was kino beyond belief. Need that man in more kinos.
The Fitzroy pub club, did more damage to this show than anyone else would like to admit. Also Lawrence Miles might be a genuine schitzo but he absolutely got everything right about the level below the bottom of the barrel this franchise would descend to.
>>219871564Anon, 3 was the worst one
>>219872406That's 2, Martha > Rose
Smith's run is almost perfect. You could just take Series 5 and leave it by itself. Just a perfect encapsulation of the Doctor and a whimsical storytale experience. I cannot stand Tennant
>>219866977>The showrunner has now explicitly said it’s a gay show for gays.he did?
>>219867393OH MY GOD! I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH GRACE!
>>219872698yeah. He also said "fuck you, I do not have to consider the audience", or something to that effect. He's entirely mask off at this point.
I have to wonder what the hell the BBC higher ups think of RTD at this point. Do they really just trust him to bring back the traditional audience (which was mostly kids and teen boys)?Cause it's clearly not working, and we can all see why it's not working.Do you think all of his little outbursts lately are because they've been pleading with him behind the scenes?I can see it in my head.>"but what if we just made it a bit less gay?">RTD turns beet red, and throws a chair across the room, and then insists he knows EXACTLY what the audience needs
>>219873126MAKE IT MORE GAY!!!!!! MORE!!!! MAKE BILLIE PIPER THE DOCTOR AND MAKE HER LESBIAN!!!!! MORE!!!!!!!!!
>>219871864He fucked Queen Elizabeth
>>219858840but he's not that popular.
>>219865316rekt
>>219873220well i don't think a female doctor kissing girls is that bad, i could get behind that level of wokeness...
>>219873126the audience just wants full length interracial interreligion interspecies gay pornography
>>219873440He’s the go-to Doctor for fags on the internet to jerk off for NuWho for some reason, even though his writing is demonstrably worse than Tennant and Smith and half of his highlight reel where is isn’t being whipped by Clara is Epic Dramatic Speech backed by Murray Gold #87621
>>219873477MAKE HER FAT AND BLACK!!!!!!! NIG-GENERATION!!!!!!!!
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>>219873126They don’t have a plan for Doctor Who anymore the show is being put on ice after the Christmas special where Rose Doctor and 14 fuck and regenerate into a fade-out to be followed up on when the show reboots in the 2030s
>>219873553So wrong
>>219873126RTD has files on them. it's basically blackmail. how else do you think he has managed to avoid cancellation for so long?
Is Dr. Who like a medical doctor or like a Phd?
>>219873508capaldi is just the best actor that's played the doctor so you're always enveloped in the story even if the the story is bad. bill was the worst companion, but since capaldi cared about her i wanted to see that she was safe. does this make sense?
>>219873650Bill > Rose
Planet....... Of The Incels.... This Episode Is So Deep... Coercive Control... Men Are Evil...
>>219873585why don't they just... Make Doctor Who?It's about a strange old man with a time machine, bros. It's not that hard.They've been creating this problem for themselves by insisting on making anything but Doctor Who.
>>219858784"History is a whitewash, chuddies."- Doctor Who
>>219858874Nope he's trash he acted all gay like the previous Doctors I watched, I hate that, make a Doctor Who that doesn't pander to Tumblr you dumb fags
>>21987373512 is the least gay Doctor.
>>219873823If we’re talking NuWho that’s 9, and that’s saying something because he kissed a dude
>>21987385312 didn't.
>>219868525Doctor Z. Esty.
I AM A WOMAN! GET IT? YOU'RE A MAN. A BLACK MAN. BUT STILL A MAN. I AM NOT A TOY. I AM WOMAN.
>>21987386212 was still gayer, this is a simple concept
>>219873735paradoxically it's 13 who is the least submissive to her companions. she made Tennant fangirls (and fanfags) cry and seethe for years.
>>219873989Whittaker is kind of based in a way when you consider she had a quirky facade but did shit like lock her enemies in conscious comatose states for all eternity and snitched the brown Master to the Nazis who had to escape from a concentration camp afterward
>>219873979who wants this?
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Woman_(The_Giggle)>The gender of the character wasn't made clear in the original television episode [+]; it was only clarified in the novelisation [+].Don't believe your seeing eyes chud, ALL characters are genderless until we get textual confirmation!!
>>219861589This is so insulting
>>219873585>when the show reboots in the 2030sThere's not going to be a "wilderness era part 2"Back when it was first paused, the show was declining but people still wanted to see more.Everyone's already soured on Doctor Who now and don't really want to see more. Unless London's about to have some massive pendulum shift, any reboot would just be more of the same and no one will even give it a glance.
>>219874069How so? He's just being Scottish.
>>219868132The End of Time is fucking dogshit self-indulgent faggery from RTD
>>219874027>snitched the brown Master to the Nazis who had to escape from a concentration camp afterwardHitler literally considered Indians to be aryan so that makes no sense
>>219874051yikes. incel alert. you hate strong bipoc women. she's a nurse okay. a NURSE. she showers people and does their IVs. you're just a racist chud.
>>219874066the wiki did the opposite with the trans character in ruby road and insisted it wasn't trans but a real woman as there was no confirmation otherwise
>>219874133Whittaker Doctor more based than Hitler hate to see it
>>219874103Disengenious engagement farming post.Fall on a sword
>>219874168There was confirmation in the episode when some kids were calling him Jason.
>>219874158who wants this?
>>219874170He was probably thinking of the aristocratic high castes and likely never even got to know a real Indian in his life
>>219874193no not him, the one who's a singer and goes in a taxi with ruby in the christmas special
>>219873823Incorrect.6 is the least gay from the classic series, he wears an awesome coat no shitstabber could pull off and stares at both Briant and Langford's perfect jugs all day. He also goes around just insulting people and not giving a shit, like Nigel Farage.The Fugitive Doctor is the least gay of the NuWho ones because they tried to get her to do a lesbian wedding but she was like "Nah, fuck off." And just buggered off in the Tardis, looking for some more cock. You can bet she has sucked Carvanista's lipstick too.
>>219874051>>219874208Hollywood execs
>>219874251>6 is the least gay from the classic seriesHe is the most gay.>he wears an awesome coatHe had one of the worst outfits.>stares at both Briant and Langford's perfect jugs all dayHe never did that though.
Witch Master is the most Kinoest of all, and why is Roger Delgado?
>>219874365John Simm
>>219874251You ever notice all the Doctors under JNT being 5, 6 and 7 all hated women to varying degrees and told them to shut the fuck up whenever possible. JNT was like the mirror inverse of RTD, an anti-woke faggot.
>>219874376you can criticise JNT for a lot of things but he at least knew DW was made for general audiences not for his own niche group.That's why he added sexy female companions, it was ''something for the dads''.
>>219874462The only sexy one is Peri.
>>219874103While only comprising 13% of the UK, Scots make up 50% of all Doctors
>>219874546Now do the stats for Wales and Northern Ireland.
>>219874520trvth
>>219863216After War Doctor don't we have to call him Elevenant
>>219874520Bonnie Langford and Sophie Aldred could get it, Fielding and Sutton I never thought were attractive they definitely felt like dykes
for me, it's the mastsarr
>>219874546>>219874584you didn't think Ace, Nyssa or Tegan were sexy?
>>219874613Ace was tomboy hot she was just covered up most of the time though
>>219874587Bonnie is a butterface.
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>>219874520consider Leelass
>>219874333>He is the most gay.Thats a funny way to say macho.>He had one of the worst outfits.Well someone has obviously never seen the 6th doctor and his awesome coat. Either that or you're confusing him with the vet and his celery. Picrel is the Baker 2.0's outfit.>He never did that thoughWTF are you taking? Peri's fat filled sacks are literally the first things he sees when he regenerates and he proves his alpha chad credentials by sex choking her.
>>219863238>Branding the show as a "kids/family friendly" showYou mean, like the original showrunner did (episodes intended to alternate between history and science lessons, special guest stars)?
>>219866892>Americans telling other Americans to skip Series 1 and go straight to Tennant.I could never>Edit Rose out of all the episodes That would be fine
>>219871517But you're brazillian
>>219874783Tegan and 6 is a kino pairing and we only get it with this monstrosity.
>>219874740The gayest classic Doctor is inarguably 2, him and Jamie never gave Zoe and her amazing ass a second look, proven canon when they’re traveling alone in Two Doctors
>>219874877the 2nd Doctor is just a grown up kid.
>>219867232>I blame the showrunners, though. The casting decisions as well as the writing are on them.The darkest irony is that until Matt they only hired people who'd already been on the show, Matt knocked it out of the park then they went with "Well David vouched for me"Fucking Lumley was a better female Doctor and she had what, 30 seconds screen time
>>219874848There are white Brasilians.
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>>219873126No, they're bigger fags than him
>>219868132The way I see it, 14 year old Pete Capaldi begged the fanzine to put him in charge of the fan club, they refused, and he later grudgingly settled for the second best thing.
>>219871790This is Moaning Myrtle btw
>>21987179010 is a bro, pulls up, kills the bad guy, and gives this dude an immortal fleshlight. What’s 12 going to give you when he turns up? A 5 minute speech on being a nice guy? Case closed.
>>219874740Bet Colin and Nicola were fucking during the show, he even bit her on the ass during a take on Twin Dilemma
A new generation of kids will love the new Doctor Who!
All his friends like to call him Doctor Fun!
>>219871650>Classic chads>Uses an image of the worst classic DoctorAmericans need to get the fuck out and stop glazing Tom. Genesis, Horror and City being kino can't excuse almost all of his SEVEN seasons being abysmal dogshit.
Is it actually illegal for BBC to just make a fucking cartoon?
>>219875826They should just cancel the show and animate the BF stories, watch this fucking kino and tell me we shouldn’t be doing this for all of themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEB14rIOLQ
>>219874848How many am I?
>>219874365Delgado = Gomez > Ainley > Jacobi > Roberts > Simm > Crispy niggas
>>219867751>Beyond Capaldi is so worthless it's not even worth talking about.Whittaker had absolutely nothing good but Ncuti at least had some good standalone episodes with Boom, 73 Yards, Dot & Bubble, Joy to the World, Lux and The Well. Definitely not worth watching his full seasons though, both finales are shockingly bad I've no idea what ReTarD was thinking writing those.
>>219875826BBC has already commissioned one for CBeebies to air in 2027 after the main show is put on ice.
why does the AI slop spammer always use such a shit model
>>219876060Rogue is his best episode.
>>219876060Ascension of the Cybermen was a good Whittaker one, the Cybermen were actually pretty sweet in her era
Doccy Who
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>>219876809>Yaz POV
>>219876809Yaz yuri
Why does nobody talk about how this season is easily the worst for classic Who literally nothing redeeming outside City of Death and Destiny of the Daleks is borderline retarded
>>219877230and Horns of Nimon because of how completely bonkers it is
>>219861589>bongs tax dollars fund this shitFTFY
>>219871790I just really want to know what it'd be like if you dropped and broke the slab
>>219877835Also is it her full mouth or are you grinding against the pavement by a certain point
>>219877868Do you have to feed her? She must need nutrients to keep "living". Where does it go though?
>>219872519Tenant/Rose is peak nuWho. Matt Smith and Amy Rory was 50% hit or miss
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>>219873477>legacy character is female>also lesbianevery. fucking. time
>>219877959>Tenant/Rose is peak nuWhoPeak dogshit you mean.
>>219877959Martha > Donna >> Rose/9 >>>>>>>>> Rose/10
>>219878053The doctor has always tried to avoid relationships (but still likes girls).That wouldn't change even if he became a woman himself.The problem is suddenly deciding that the 14th and 15th like taking it up the ass now just because the writer and gatwa does
>>219858905What about "the Doctor should be straight white male" rule
>>219878159So has the Master has always been gay then since Missy wants to fuck 12
>>219874783Not really relevant when the show progressed beyond it's original setup fairly quickly.
>>219878244The Master wants to fuck his genderbent future self, he's just really confused
>>219878160Hartnell is asexual.
>>219858784Having a woman doctor could have been great but they made it all.political and woke. The doctor could have been charmingly oblivious and accidentally wise.
>>219879609Doctor Who has always been political.
I've watched most of classic-who but barely made it to the 12th doctor for nu. What's wrong with Whittaker? Is it politics or boring stories? I've heard conflicting opinions.Also is the Capadi run any good? He seems to be divisive
>>219861589actually, they didn't.
>>219880055you've always been a faggot
>>219880168Shup up.
>>219880130Whittaker isn't that bad, the chuddies here just don't like it because the Doctor stopped being the same gender as them.
>>219858784>1.2M>531K>45K
>>219858840His tenure was the last time the show was actually Doctor Who. Even with its flaws, I'm happy to say the series ended with Twice Upon a Time.
>>219878399You could sayHe's a chronic masterbaiter
>>219878476Not quite, 1st Doctor very clearly had a family but he was past that shit and wanted to strike out on his own.
>>219880763Susan was created in a loom.
>>219863528short attention span is a curse not to be proud of.
>>219858896They are both slops, why the deflection?
>>219876809:0
>>219865372>50%depressing, should've been 100% drop
>>219881554Some people will always watch no matter how much it changes.
>>219877230Lots of people have said this.I don't care that much for season 18 either.
I need to tell you all the truth... I don't really like the JNT era.
>>219858874>:]
>>219880150Disney + insider here.It wasn't availible on our service in the UK, as it was exclusive to the BBC there. In truth though the show performed very well, especially with families and people under 35. It out performed all Star Wars content by a small margin in the USA, but decisively in almost every other country. This led to questions being asked on what we could do to aquire more of the rights to the show from the BBC when the next round of negotiations came around.The plan was for feature films exclusive to cinemas as part of the deal, and a full integration into the StarWars universe. Disney would attempt to acquire the rights to various fractured parts of the "Whoniverse" such as Terry Nation's Dalek monsters, for use in both StarWars and the MCU. One plan was for the Fugitive Doctor tostar in the Mandelorian Movie, before spinning off into a trilogy of feature films written by acclaimed British screenwriter, and of course former Doctor Who show-runner Chris Chibnel. This project actually got quite far along planning-wise in an attempt to impress the BBC into signing the deal to make Disney co-owners of Doctor Who (Awkwafina had been approached as to the possibility of using one of her multiple contracted films to play The Master, for example).Negotiations turned very sour however when it became clear the BBC did not want to sell any of its stake in Doctor Who, at all, under any circumstances. Without ownership, or co-ownership, we had been ordered to play hardball to try to call the BBC's bluff, but this was a redline for them and the BBC walked.That's honestly what happened. If the ratings had been low then that would have worked in our advantage and we could have secured one ofthe most click generating IPs on the internet for a vastly reduced cost.
>>219868351>especially the classic Doctor Who fanbase who are also the biggest defenders of the current showFucking what? Classic fans hate the current show more than fans of the revival, why would classic fans defend shit like The Timeless Children or Empire of Death, when those episodes piss all over the classic series? Go to any site where the 13 and 15 defenders congregate, and you'll find most of them prefer the revival to the classic series.
>>219884270Nah, you're confusing Classic Doctor Who fans with Russian/Reform plc bots again.
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>>219884384weak bait
>>219884418>New labour>That's weird
>>219875564They've already tried that color.
>>219884217makes sense. it did seem a bit wierd that they weren't renewing when it was the most popular show on disney plus among under 40s or whatever it was.
>>219880341That's only half of why I don't like her, or her era.I find her bland, flat, and lacking in basically anything I like about the character of the Doctor.It's clearly Doctor Who aimed at people who complained about Capaldi's Doctor being too dark and mean, which is to say every rough edge is sanded down, and it just lame.Same for Gatwa, actually. If your entire character is group hugs and emotional support, you're a shitty character. Watching modern Doctor Who feels like I'm in some kind of group therapy session for incredibly fragile people.
>>219882356I just don't like the Davison era, mostly. The later stuff gets so off-the-wall, I kind of love it.
>>219858784Its pretty funny seeing that all the "React channels" who watch Doctor Who, have a huge drop off when they start the Jodie era. Undeniable proof that casting a female Doctor Who killed the show for the general public
>219884217You really love Awkwafina don't you? You can't stop forcing this meme about her starring as the Master.
What is your favourite scene from the Gatwa era?
>>219858784the Mat Smith seasons were so pretentious i had to stop
>>219884270The revival fans left. It's the classic fans who always vehemently defend the new stuff. It's the same with Star Trek. It's the 50-60 year olds.
>>219886689In what capacity? If anything, that's DW at it's most whimsical.
>>219886706The OG OG fans in their 50's and 60's are either not watching or incredibly grumpy at this point, and the people who were more casual fans around the time of the initial reboot are also done.The problem with DW is there's a whole parallel fanbase that basically spawned on Tumblr, that actually wants the show to be even more woke. You see them every now and again, usually arguing that we *need* a female showrunner now, because that's all they care about. Moving the needle, instead of getting a watchable TV show. They're a very loud and persistent minority.
>>219858846this. Total garbage through and through.Something is wrong with you if you like this show.
There's even a bit in the latest Alan Partridge series where Alan thinks David Tennant is still the latest Doctor. That's actually very telling of where people who used to watch DW back in it's original run are these days.
>>219886194Even funnier is that they start watching the Jodie era, then say they will take a temporary break and never go back.
>>219858784I miss Doctor Who... And by that i mean the Eccleston, Tennant (first run), Smith, Capaldi days. I want my Doctor dances, Blink and girl in the fireplace tier episodes back.
>>219886993It's the fear of the show ending that's motivating them. You see it even with RTD, and Moffat in some interviews where it feels like the real reason they bothered coming back was to prevent the show from being shelved. It's the people who even now buy Big Finish. You have the tumblr/reddit fanbase as well but even there they mainly just care about Doctors 9-12 while giving token defences to 13 and 15. There are people who constantly want to move the needle, but they're being enabled by the older classic fans.
>>219886654The cut love scene between her and Ruby.
>>219887307well, those people have a specific mania I don't understand. It's better for it not to exist than to exist in an unrecognisable form.And if they'e worried about the kids now not getting into it, they already failed.
>>219886654Based RTD putting gamers in their place. Classic episode for sure. Just a pity it wasn't canon.>Using every ninth word, Alan communicates to them that he is in pain. Belinda touches her version of the certificate to Alan's, which causes them to experience all of time simultaneously. The Doctor rescues Belinda while Alan reverts to a sperm and egg, which is cleaned up by a robot.I think Ncuti's rapturous reaction to the rather casual murder of Alan really brings into sharp focus the full horror of this abomination of an incarnation. This is no longer a man of compassion and kindness filled with awe at the wonders of the universe. This is a man boiling with hatred and consumed by cruelty. A man who cackles with glee and does high kicks when his companion's friend is HILARIOUSLY murdered by insane robots a thousand light years from home. Ncuti's Doctor sees human life as disposable indeed. Particularly the lives of white male gamers, who just so happen to make up the vast majority of Doctor Who's fanbase. It is in moments like these (and there are many in this series) that the showrunner drops the mask entirely and Ncuti's Doctor becomes merely a barefaced avatar for RTD to spew forth a disturbingly comprehensive torrent of bile and fury at a fanbase he so clearly despises. One can practically feel the poisonous contempt the author has for his audience burning right off the screen. Genuinely frightening stuff and certainly not for children.
>>219887824>we need to show how caring and inclusive we are, by being incredibly cruel and brutal to the majority of people who historically watched our show>male nerds who get bullied (by me) are actually *my* abusers!Honestly, the mania of these people is fascinating. This weird reality tunnel of nonsense double think they have boxxed themselves into.Frankly, they need to be institutionalised. The thought process is no longer coherent. It's scary that people like this have power and can vote.
>>219861493dems want ALL the representation and they want it RIGHT NOW
>>219887208>girl in the fireplaceOverrated, Rogue is better.
Easily the best Gatwa episode.
>>219888504Rogue is the best.
>>219888015The most chilling part is knowing this man has complete creative control of a show watched by millions of young people worldwide. It's like one of those dystopian 90s sci-fi flicks where the amoral villain tries to get kids hooked on some super addictive new designer drug he's created, only in RTD's case the drug is his appallingly-warped personal ideology and he's successfully pumping it into the minds of impressionable youngsters around the globe. Well I say successfully - I admit to taking a considerable measure of comfort in knowing that practically no one outside of us hardcore faithful few actually watches this tripe anymore. What would otherwise be a terribly depressing state of affairs is in this case a cause for celebration knowing that RTD is basically an IRL Bond villain and his evil plot for world domination has been foiled, largely by his own doing due to how utterly shithouse the era of his second coming turned out to be. So consumed by agenda was he that he plum forgot to make even a single episode remotely entertaining. Whoops. I sincerely hope after this upcoming catastrophe of a Christmas special RTD has cooked up for us he immediately leaves the show forever and never, ever goes near it ever again. Ever.
Why is /who/ so dead?
>>219886151Jodeh era is completely devoid of anything unique, interesting, or memorable. Sets, music, direction, and style are equally as bland as the Doctor and her three companions.Why did Chibnall do it?
>>219890156Chibnall just seems like an endlessly dull individual. He had some vague idea he wanted to recreate the 5th Doctors era, because that was his childhood era, and that was it. Absolutely no creative input past that point.>wouldn't it be grand if the Doctor was a lovely person with some lovely mates :^)Yes, thank you, Chris. Mine's a coffee.I suspect the vaguely interesting creative flourishes from his era like the big crystal in the Tardis also weren't his ideas (they totally could have done the whole crystal tech theme a lot better, as well).
>>219890156The Timeless Child is very unique.
>>219888504One of the only episodes this series where RTD's villain of choice WASN'T a straight white male and by an astonishing coincidence the only episode where the Doctor shows the villain mercy. The straight white male villains in Planet of the Incels and that execrable Eurovision episode are brutally tortured and/or murdered but honestly, they got off light. >Lucky DayStraight white male villain Conrad Clark is a straight white male podcaster who dares to question authority. Having learned that UNIT operate with zero governmental oversight, Conrad publicly questions why this clandestine military agency are allowed to do whatever they damn well please entirely on the taxpayer's dollar while offering zero public transparency.Obviously these concerns are entirely valid and provide the framework for a potentially intriguing examination of the unchecked power the Doctor & UNIT wield on behalf of Earth. Instead it's a poorly-built soapbox featuring a clearly-unhinged RTD (played terribly by Ncuti Gatwa) railing against the horrors of allowing straight white males to question the establishment. This repellent rant stands out as particularly loathsome.>You have to be invited into my TARDIS, Conrad. To be special. But you? You're special... for all the WRONG reasons. You see, I am fighting a battle on behalf of everyday people... who just want to get through their day, and feel safe, and warm, and fed. And then along comes this... NOISE. All day long, this relentless NOISE. COWARDS like you, weaponising LIES, taking people's insecurity and fear and making it currency. You are exhausting. You STAMP on the truth, CHOKE our bandwidth and SHRED our patience. Because the only strategy you have is to wear us down. But the thing is, Conrad, I have energy to BURN and all the time in the universe.RTD's transformation into Blofeld is complete as he savagely castigates the fans for daring to question his evil empire Spectre (formerly known as Doctor Who).
>>219890315But it's not.>>219890308Even all the original monsters are easily forgettable. But yeah I did notice the parallels with Davison's run almost immediately.
Has Chris Chibnall ever even given an interview or appeared at a convention? I feel like RTD and Moffat are endlessly waffling on, and laying out their ideas, and Chibnall is just an enigma. He's a fucking Auton pretending to be a human.
>>219890446Conrad got himself in jail by killing someone though.
>>219890446I thought RTD hated Blairism anyway? Why is he defending QAUNGOs?No need to answer that. it's because he's retarded. I know.
>>219890537free my nigga Conrad he dindu nuffin
>>219890468>>219890308>>219890156I thought something felt "off" when his debut episode was filmed like a police drama.And then the following episode was full of these deadly things of death being described, but never shown.
What's interesting is if you kind of squint, there are the beginnings of good ideas in RTD's work.Science fiction should be talking about un-elected governmental bodies and the power they weirld.It should be talking about the way disabled people are treated in society.It should be talking about the way people are increasingly disappearing into their own personalised dream worlds.The problem with RTD is he's the villain, and he doesn't get it.He supports the un-elected governmental bodies.He treats the disabled as tokens to gloat about his own virtuousness, while also attacking "incels" who often are disabled or mentally ill, and at the very least are disadvantaged.He is himself completely entrenched in his own make-believe world of social media bullshit.If anyone good ever takes control of the show, they should do these ideas again, and do them right. genuinely.
>>219890470>He's a fucking Auton pretending to be a human.Sounds about right. Seems they dust him off for the occasional public appearance then pop him back in the broom cupboard.
>>219884217Assuming I believe this random post for even a second, they wanted the Doctor to show up in Star Wars??? What the hell??? That sounds so awful and corporate, and yet I'm morbidly curious how that would've looked
>>219874520I love Victoria, Sarah Jane, Leela, Nyssa, Tegan and Peri.
David Tennant is the best Doctor. You don't have to agree, but it's still true.
>>219891418They don't really fit together stylistically. The Doctor in Marvel however could work, and has some precedent. A scene of him talking to Dr Strange in the multiverse or something would be cute, dare I say?He met the Hulk in the comics once.
>>219891572I'm trans btw NOT that it matters to chuds.
>>219891593He's so brave and cool.
>>219890875>He treats the disabled as tokens to gloat about his own virtuousness, while also attacking "incels" who often are disabled or mentally ill, and at the very least are disadvantaged.His husband became disabled then died that's why he does it, also most incels aren't disabled.
>>219891572More like the gayest.
Ncuti > Tennant
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>>219891621>husband dies>THIS IS THE WORLD'S FAULT RRAAAAAGGGGGHHHH YOU DID THIS
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>>219891621I don't care what he thinks he's doing. The way he treats the disabled in his work is pathetic.>Heh, you know what would make people respect the disabled? A wheelchair with a rocket launcher!Is he a fucking idiot?And yeah, I'd say probably a majority of incels have something wrong with them actually. Elliot Roger definitely had something that never got diagnosed. Plus, being really really ugly is kind of it's own disability... Being a bald man is a disability. Either you're with the downtrodden, or you aren't.
>>219890875POSITION VACANT: Dr. Who ShowrunnerPrevious experience with scriptwriting and showrunning preferred but not essential. Basic human decency welcomed. Talent optional. Apply below.Update: PLEASE no more applications about the divine right of "intellectually enlightened social engineers" to "hammer their holy homosexual agenda" into the "filthy Farage-loving peasantry." Yes that means you Russell. Of course we know its you. Because you signed every single one of the 784,000 appilcations you submitted that's why.
>>219891698Nicholas Briggs isn't disabled.
>>219891758if women don't find you attractive specifically because you're bald, then yeah, it's a disability.
>>219891869Some females like bald males, being poor is more of a disability.
>>219891918being poor is also a disability.
>>219891918This. Love is a mental state, and bitches will hypnotize themselves if it means they get to be rich.
Are we regenerating?
Well no one seems to give a shit that.... The Savages(????) has just been animated and released? Anyone see it?
the animated missing serials are fucking trash
Hopefully someone buys this. That's a pretty bad front cover.
>>219890446>You see, I am fighting a battle on behalf of everyday peoplelol what a lineThree cheers for Rusty the freedom fighting folk hero Truly the last line of defense between normies and the joe rogan experience
>>219892198While I appreciate that the animated versions exist, I pretty much just see these as blueprints for the inevitable AI versions to follow, at this point.
>>219892142I honestly much prefer listening to the narrated episode soundtracks.
do we have any more word on missing episodes?I know the word at the time was that the Daleks' Master Plan episodes were considered bonus finds, and Film is Fabulous is in possession of, or in the process of acquiring at least one more episode.
>>219892231You mean Alex Jones.
>>219892439nah, Joe Rogan would be more accurate. People like RTD really do think Joe Rogan is the devil, while Alex Jones is barely even on their radar. Not to mention like real conspiracy podcasters who aren't brand names.
>>219892474Joe Rogan isn't a conspiracy theorist.
>>219866892Am I remembering right that the twat making it at the time hated Eccleston?
>>219892513doesn't even matter. People who seethe with hatred for Joe Rogan aren't listening to him. They don't know that he's actually a dopy stoner, who holds no real convictions beyond "everyone should do DMT".They think *that* is what the manosphere is, and it's some how analogous to fascism.
>>219892519Yep
>>219892519RTD and Eccleston have beef, yes. All we know is that there was "bullying" happening on set, and Eccleston didn't like it, and RTD didn't like being questioned by Eccleston.Whether or not this relates to other things we know now about sexual harassment taking place on his sets, is up to the imagination. Eccleston could well have been saying "Noel Clarke needs to stop that shit he's doing over there", and that could have been the kicker.
They should just bring back david tennant until the rating stabilize. It doesn't make sense for a new actor to commit to a show, that no one watches, that has huge unpredictable gaps in work, that interrupts better jobs.
Torchwood would have been so much better if Tosh were the main character instead of Gwen
>>219892474The nu!Trinity Wells is literally a parody of Alex Jones. The format of her show is straight-up lifted from InfoWars.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCqkN04_iLU
>>219888504> I know, wot if we did Desmonds with a huge spider. That'd be well mental.
>>219892624John put his penis on the TARDIS and Chris' shoulder.
>>219892844You mean Owen.
Captain Black Harkness.
>>219861493made for american audiences
>>219892735Kill yourself
>>219885108NGL, going full blown cunnybait might be the only thing that would bring me back at this point.>>219886194>>219887042kek, I've been watching FLG's reaction. She's just getting to the end of the Matt Smith run, but she's already fingerwaved people who don't like nuwho because of intolerance or whatever. I'm kinda looking forward to seeing her realize that it's actually fucking trash
>>219893749Oh really? Who is your favourite companion?
>>219893749>but she's already fingerwaved people who don't like nuwho because of intolerance or whatever.I've been watching her and I don't recall her ever saying anything like that
>>219886706I'm not that big in Doctor Who fandom but the impression I get is that all of the Classic boomers fucking hate nuWho and always have. Which is pretty based.In the Star Trek fandom, on the other hand, the TOS boomers are the ones insisting that it's your duty to defend nuTrek no matter how dire and unwatchable it gets. But they're the same ones who hated TNG and its associated spinoffs.
