Orson Welles on Woody Allen:>I hate him physically, I dislike that kind of man. (...) He is arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Everything he does on the screen is therapeutic.on Godard:>His gifts as a director are enormous. I just can’t take him very seriously as a thinker – and that’s where we seem to differ, because he does. His message is what he cares about these days, and, like most movie messages, it could be written on the head of a pin.”on Bergman:>I don't condemn that very northern, very Protestant world of artists like Bergman; it's just not where I live. The Sweden I like to visit is a lot of fun. But Bergman's Sweden always reminds me of something Henry James said about Ibsen's Norway—that it was full of “the odor of spiritual paraffin.” How I sympathize with that! I share neither Bergman’s interests nor his obsessions. He's far more foreign to me than the Japanese.on Antonini:>"I don't like to dwell on things. It's one of the reasons I'm so bored with Antonioni - the belief that, because a shot is good, it's going to get better if you keep looking at it. He gives you a full shot of somebody walking down a road. And you think, 'Well, he's not going to carry that woman all the way up that road.' But he does. And then she leaves and you go on looking at the road after she's gone.on John Landis>That asshole from animal house. (...) Kill him. (...) Keeps phoning me and giving me advice how to make the movie. Everything he says is dumb.
Now do Welles on Dustin Hoffman
>>219872266>Welles sperging out on everyone because he peaked early and never had a success again thread
>>219872266Tho think that all those children could have been saved if we had only listened to Welles' warnings and killed John Landis.
>>219872266What are his thoughts on Optimus Prime?
Director on director hate quotes are really fun, put the Vincent Gallo ones
I get the feeling that Orson didn't particularly like jews
>>219872412he hints at what he feels about the japanese in the bergman quote, so its possible he probably didn't like optimus prime given his statements as unicron. then again i'm not sure if he was aware of the transformers movie being mostly japanese to begin with
>>219872466>Why are you recording my lines first? Wait, Am I suppose to be a planet? What?
Orson Welles on Robert Blake… https://youtu.be/rN576TSACtMYou come for the king and you’d best not miss, Pee-Wee.
>>219872343Everything he made was a kino and he pioneered small independent cinema as much as Citizen Kane pioneered epic storytelling
What kind of a name is Orson?
>>219872556The kind that’s one vowel off from what he will do to your house
>>219872266Was Welles also a nepo baby or from a secret service family or something? Or how did he get projects after all the flops?
>>219872266Are these Orson quotes real?
>>219872534I agree. Chimes at Midnight is turbokino. Imagine hating on a guy who worked himself to death and died broke all for the love of the game.
>>219872534>”everything he made was kino”>immediately names the one movie everyone knows him forSure anon
>>219872599he was orphan since 9 and made it up to the top from the worse place possible in human nature: Ireland, don't dare to include the nepo baby words alongside his name
>>219872634He died fat he was the literal opposite of a starving artist lmfao
>>219872599All of his movies after Ambersons were partially or entirely self funded by the money he made acting in other movies. appeared in over a hundred movies in 40 years all while directing his own work on the side.
>>219872438No one does, not even the jews.
>>219872683actually he died because he lost too much weight and had a heart attack but i like that you can talk out your ass and laugh about it
>>219872266Just realized Orson Welles is the Keith Richards of cinema. They both love to talk shit about their coworkers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1PJTY9AVA>green penis
>>219872599What do you mean? He had to flee to Europe because no one in hollywood wanted to fund his films. Also he hasn't really made any movies after 50.
>>219872343He made the chimes at midnight when he was 50 and the size of a hippo, and it is a very good film.
>>219872851Just cause they didn't make money doesn't mean they weren't good. People in 1947 simply didn't have the IQ to understand The Lady from Shanghai
MAHA THE FRENCH
>>219872761>Bruce Springsteen: "Too contrived for me. Too overblown. These are just my opinions.">David Bowie: "It’s all pose. It’s all fucking posing. It’s nothing to do with music. He knows it too. I can’t think of anything else he’s done that would make my hair stand up.">Bob Dylan: "Bob’s a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me, ‘I could have written 'Satisfaction,' Keith – but you couldn’t have written 'Desolation Row.">The Band: "The Band were just too strict. They’ve been playing together for a long, long time, and what I couldn’t understand was their lack of spontaneity. They sounded note for note like their records. ... They just didn’t seem to come alive by themselves. I think that they’re essentially an accompanying band.">The Bee Gees: "Well, they're in their own little fantasy world. You only have to read what they talk about in interviews. ... How many suits they've got and that kind of crap. It's all kid stuff, isn't it?">Creedence Clearwater Revival: "When I first heard [CCR], I was really knocked out, but I became bored with them very quickly. After a few times, it started to annoy me. They're so basic and simple that maybe it's a little too much.”>The Grateful Dead: The Grateful Dead is where everybody got it wrong. Just poodling about for hours and hours. Jerry Garcia, boring shit, man. Sorry, Jerry.”>The Beatles: Chicks wore those guys out. They stopped touring in 1966; they were done already. They were ready to go to India and shit.” He went on to describe the Beatles' widely acknowledged 1967 masterpiece Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as a "mishmash of rubbish. ... There's not a lot of roots in that music. I think they got carried away.”>Elton John: "Lovely bloke,but posing.”>Guns N' Roses: "I admire their guts, [but] their look –it's like there's one out of this band, one looks like Jimmy [Page], one looks like Ronnie [Wood]. Too much copycat, too much posing for me.”
He's no Tarkovsky.
>>219872936They liked him cause he resembled Cultural Icon Babar.
>>219872937>Oasis: “They’re crap. These guys are just obnoxious. Grow up and then come back and see if you can hang. I don’t hear anything there; it’s all just retro to me. But there is an element of pity." Years later, when Richards met Noel Gallagher at a New Year's Eve party, he hit him with a savage opening line: "Ah, you're still around, are you?”>Led Zeppelin: "The guy's voice started to get on my nerves. I don't know why. Maybe he's a little too acrobatic.” Richards' opinion hadn't changed much when asked again about Zeppelin in 2015. "I always felt there was something a little hollow about it, you know?”>The Sex Pistols: “There’s no substance. There’s more to it than saying ‘shit’ on TV or learning to spit by practicing in the mirror.”>The Spice Girls: "They're really just a lot of tarts! Can they sing? No! Can they play? No! The world's gone mad, it needs something like them.”>Prince: "He's got a problem with his attitude and it comes across on record. Prince has to find out what it means to be a prince. That's the trouble with conferring a title on yourself before you've proved it. That was his attitude when he opened for us on tour, and it was insulting to our audience. You don't try to knock off the headliner like that when you're playing a Stones crowd. He's a prince who thinks he's a king already. Good luck to him.”>Justin Bieber: "I found him quite humble, as he should be. His music? I mean it's a load of crap, isn't it?”
>>219872851he fled because he was a suspected communist during the blacklist. despite his films underperforming they were not failures, and the movies he acted in for others were very successful.its really incredible how much of the discussion around welles is total lies.
>>219872937>>219872996Has this nigga ever heard of keeping an opinion to himself or nah, sounds like a woman
>>219872937I don't trust anyone who doesn't like the Grateful Dead. There's a correlation between disliking them and not being as good as them. I've never found an artist who spoke out against the Grateful Dead and had also written anything as good as Birdsong.
>>219872937>Rap Music: It's all just a bunch of jungle beats from the 70's. They're even less literate than the musicians they're stealing from.>James Brown: He reminds me of a negro I saw beating up his woman at a bar in New York City. A very mediocre song and dance man; his band is better.>Jimi Hendrix: Boring.
>>219872937keith richards looks like THAT?
>>219873073Incredibly based
>>219872996>Metallica and Black Sabbath: “Getting the syncopation is beyond them. It’s endless thudding away, with no bounce, no lift. Millions are in love with Metallica and Black Sabbath," he scoffed. "I just thought they were great jokes. I don't know where Metallica's inspiration comes from, but if it's from me, then I fucked up.”>Rap Music: “So many words, so little said. What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there. All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it, and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” He was even more dismissive in a 2023 interview with The Telegraph: "I don't really like to hear people yelling at me and telling me it's music.”>Puff Daddy: "Bereft of imagination. What a piece of crap. You know, come up with something of your own. Nobody minds you being influenced by somebody, but at least add something to it instead of just taking it.”>Pop Music: "It’s always been rubbish. I mean, that’s the point of it. They make it as cheap and as easy as possible, and therefore it always sounds the same. There’s very little feel in it. I like to hear music by people playing instruments. That is, I don’t like to hear plastic synthesized Muzak, as it used to be known – what you hear in elevators, which is now the par for the course."
>>219872266peas grow there
>>219873088Like a monkey? Yeah
>>219873124>Mick Taylor wasn't good for the Stones. It was a sterile period for us 'cause there were things we had to force through. Maybe it's just me. It was a period we had to go through. Also Mick is such a LEAD guitarist, which completely destroyed the whole concept of the Stones, that is, the idea that you don't walk into a guitar store and ask for a lead guitar or a rhythm guitar. You PLAY a fuckin' GUITAR. You are a GUITAR player. If you just want to fuck about with three strings at the top end, well, alright, but that's not what the Stones are about.>On Roger Daltrey: “Oh my God… if you ever want to torture me, put me in a room and have him sing at me, alone.”>On Keith Moon: He could play to Pete like nobody else in the world. But if somebody threw him into a session with somebody else, it was a disaster>No, I'm not at all interested in what (Paul McCartney) does. Unfortunately, John Lennon's dead...
>>219872438wrong
>>219872266brainlet takes but at least they're funny
>>219872761>>219872996>>219873073Fantastic, right about everything. Add Nabokov's opinions and you've got all three major mediums covered.>>Mick Taylor wasn't good for the Stones. It was a sterile period for us 'cause there were things we had to force through. Maybe it's just me. It was a period we had to go through. This being the period where they made Exile on Main Street, Sticky Fingers, Let it Bleed, etc.
>>219873496What did he mean by this?
>>219872851>>What do you mean? He had to flee to EuropeI mean dude was rich all his life and had no need to work a real job to support himself?
This guy is a total buffoon
>>219873898>dude was rich all his life he lived in Peter Bogdanovich's house for eight years because he couldnt afford to rent>>219873707
>>219872266I like how Welles was a huge piece of shit as a person. So arrogant and awful. Broke poor Rita Hayworth's heart at her peak. Such a fucking bastard of a man in so many ways. Huge failure and it's even funnier how he is now canonically worshipped now. And I adore his work and find him a fascinating person (I've read maybe a dozen biographies on him and many books on his work in general). But this guy was a real piece of work himself, and although extremely talented was always his own worst enemy. He went from directing what has been considered a revolutionary film on par with Pulp Fiction's impact on cinema at the time and was being vaguely considered as a potential presidential nominee to spending most of his life and career in disarray and struggling to make his work. His own worst enemy. Ain't it always the way? Pride cometh before the fall, Orson.
>>219873939>he lived in Peter Bogdanovich's house for eight years because he couldnt afford to rentAre you retarded or? This is like saying the queen is poor because she lives in the palace of the king. Would you consider yourself poor if you never had to work and you lived in a mansion for free and got all your projects funded for free?
>>219872634Chimes at Midnight is kino and Welles is the definitive Falstaff.
>aaAaAAHh theeeee.... french
>>219874047>groundbreaking artist is a mentally unwell hazard to themselves and othersWater is wet, news at 11
>>219873496That's just him trying to get back into the jewish hollywood system.
>>219874047>on par with Pulp Fiction's impact on cinema at the timequality troll post.
>>219872266another story from welles>oh you see I - I actually met hitler, I saw at a dinner party my father was an ambassador, and you see I don't remember anything about him- host - ah that's a shit story>no don't you see the whole point of the story was that I was saying he is boring and that I don't remember him because he's so uninteresting, you see that is why I told the story because he was so boring that I forgot him you see that's why I made up the story so I could retell it and expect people to find me witty I hope that pleased the yids in the audience
>>219874115He was adopted by a Jew after his dad drank himself to death
>>219874047>the own wost enemy memesure thing kid
>>219874107Didn't see anyone else write out my thoughts and reflection on his character>>219874180You seem young.
>>219874424>Didn't see anyone else write out my thoughts and reflection on his characterBecause it's not an unknown unknown. Everyone knows that Welles was a piece of work, just like Henway and every other motherfucker in the same vein. Go back to /film/ with your "um ackchyually" bullshit with the rest of the pseuds.
>>219872937Bowie. Only product a product of his time. Appeared boundaryless because he dressed like a fag and put on makeup.Beatles. Good but only transcendant for their time. The world has moved on since then.Oasis. Normie 'easy-listening' crap. Yeah, might be fine as background music in your environment but imagine buying a fucking ticket to watch them live?
>>219873707It is something they will never let anyone ever forget, even if it didn't happen
Obligatory:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHvRaOO8P4&pp=ygUSb3Jzb24gd2VsbGVzIHNvbmlj
>>219874470You sound mad. Maybe someone reading this thread did not come to the conclusions about him as you and I and others have. My comment was more a reflection that the guy was a real asshole so maybe his opinion isn't worth much on the character of others. Sorry my post offended you?
>>219873051Sorry NoelHe's just saying what we're all thinking
>>219872266>Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant.Normies have always been upset by quiet people.
>>219874685Woody Allen is not literally you because he takes on the appearance of a cringing weakling, he's a conceited jewish pedophile.
>>219874900Are you implying the anon is not a conceited Jewish pedophile?
>>219874930I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM
>>219872343>peaked early>made one decent film (touch of evil) and took credit for the cinematography of citizen kane, which flopped on release
>>219873536Mick didn’t play on Let It Sneed
Ever since I saw that HBO doc on Woody Allen by Frank Sinatra's grandson, Woody Allen cannot ever be uncancelled, redeemed, nor his oeuvre rehabilitated. It's powerful bad.
>>219875013>french champagne has always been celebrated for its sexellence
>>219872634I can only imagine how kino it would have been had they recorded the dialogue properly. The movie is effectively dubbed despite it being filmed in english.
Is there anyone who he actually praised?
>>219875336Me, he said that I'm a pretty cool dude.
>>219875122That was the start of the MeToo movement in Hollywood.>>219875336No. He was like Gore Vidal. They hated everything.
>>219872266IDK if these are real quotes but it is a well documented fact that Welles could be... difficult at best.
>>219872953Thank god.
>>219875336>I am rather fond of anon, he belongs to that rare breed we refer to colloquially as splendid sort of chaps
>>219872556His dad's name was dickhead.
>>219872599He used to do magic tricks on the streets for money as a kid. The guy was always gathering audiences, always very intelligent, that's why he was so clever and entertaining to hear. He is an exception in every way
>>219875336James Cagney
>>219875480He was a trained monkey.This calls to mind Salieri's father, when Salieri expressed jealousy of Mozart to him:>What? You would have rather been a trained monkey?
>>219875122Woody Allen has always been a pedo piece of shit sex pest. Mariel Hemingway's underage character in Manhattan was directly inspired by an affair he had with Stacey Nelkin, an actress from I think Halloween III. She was 17 when he had her at 40.
>>219872996>Oasis: “They’re crapGod bless him.
>>219872937>>Bob Dylan: "Bob’s a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me, ‘I could have written 'Satisfaction,' Keith – but you couldn’t have written 'Desolation Row."Show me the lie.
>>219875720>17You haven't seen that documentary. He was fondling actual children in the Sinatra bungalow on the river. 17 might have been forgivable.
>People talk about Eric Clapton. What has he ever done except throw his baby off a fucking ledge and write a song about it?
>>219875817I'd be interested, where is it streaming? Also there is no way that kid that made that film isn't Sinatra's kid.
>>219875877>there is no way that kid that made that film isn't Sinatra's kidthat's what i'm sayingyou just look at him and you can see the resemblance
4chan users really are the pot calling the kettle black for accusing OW for being a shitter
>>219875758Bob Dylan was always a cunt. I like the story of when a bunch of the Folkies attached to Dylan were in a Limo and he asked everyone their opinion on "Can You Please Crawl Out of the Window" and Phil Ochs said it wasn't that good, Dylan kicked him out of the limo. Weirdly Dylan's most Kino moment and left out of his Biopic cause it shows him to be a cunt and Michael Ochs' brother to be a bipolar lunatic who alienated everyone despite being talented and well meaning. Phil Ochs has been more erased from 60s nostalgia media than anyone really.
>>219872266What did he say about red letter media?
>>219876120Most supposed great creators are cunts. The mistake is on our part, nobodies, for revering them.
>>219876132The existence of the universe is the most disappoint thing since my son (who doesn't exist)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
>>219875336John Ford.
>>219872266>on John Landis>>That asshole from animal house. (...) Kill him. (...) Keeps phoning me and giving me advice how to make the movie. Everything he says is dumb.
Fat people are objectively immoralwhatever they say is meaningless
>>219875336>“Stanley Kubrick and Richard Lester are the only ones that appeal to me, except for the old masters,” Welles said. “By which I mean John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford.” No prizes for guessing which one he liked the most, then, but the three of them evidently taught him a thing or two about timelessness.
>>219876120My favorite Bob Dylan anecdote is Dominic Behan threatening to beat him up over having stolen one of Behan's songs and tried to pass it of as a traditional arrangement.
>>219872937>Bob Dylan: "Bob’s a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me, ‘I could have written 'Satisfaction,' Keith – but you couldn’t have written 'Desolation Row."holy fucking based
>>219872996>Years later, when Richards met Noel Gallagher at a New Year's Eve party, he hit him with a savage opening line: "Ah, you're still around, are you?”
>>219873124>>Rap Music: “So many words, so little said. What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there. All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it, and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” He was even more dismissive in a 2023 interview with The Telegraph: "I don't really like to hear people yelling at me and telling me it's music.”
>>219872937Seargent Pepper's and the stuff around that era for the Beatles are not remembered for their songwriting but for the groundbreaking sound engineering and production from the studio. It's true that no one had heard stuff like that from an album before but the same stuff would have happened to Taylor Swift or any other popslop band if they got popular at the advent of that phil spector era
>>219873051You are browsing 4chan.org he'd fit right into this place
>>219875903Gay, too
>>219875336He liked John Wayne a lot funny enough.
>>219875877He had plastic surgery to make his face look like "Sinatra".
>>219872266He seemed to hate anyone with a healthy bmi
>>219873707There are ways of saying fuck you to your overlords and they can’t strike back
>>219872996>I found him quite humble, as he should be.KEK
>>219878379kek
