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i bet the end of season 3 will tease the start of the war
TAOOBA!
....semoc eH
Dragons are fucking boring
>>219876961!on ,on ,oN
>>219876933I can't wait for more episodes of Daemon rallying the Riverlands.
>>219876933How many fucking decades will it take for them to complete this absolute stinker of a show?
is this practical armour?
>>219877197Its like a 5/10, -4 points for leather armor larp slop and -1 for gambeson over chainmail rather than under
>>219877283what did they wear under chainmail?
>>219877344gambeson
>>219877433TWO gambesons?
>>219877477Gee Richard, how come your mom lets you have EXTRA padding?
>>219877505Mister Fancypants, with his two gambesons and Myrish slippers
>>219876960Did you forget the image?
Fuck Blackwood
how expensive would it actually be to get a custom suit of realistic looking armour for the main cast?
>>219877283>gambeson over chainmailInsanely retarded, but that's clearly meant to be a coat of plates, not mere leather.
>>219877939>coat of platesA horrible depiction of that, if so
>Ned executes a deserter who was telling the truth, which he believed to be a lie, only for him to die fighting for a truth which others believed to be a lie >Ned got away clean on the treason he did do (sheltering Jon, a potential rival claimant to the throne), only to be executed years later for treason he didn't do.George you're such a good writer goddamn
>>219876680egg is icsh
>>219878622The fat man has his faults, but no one can say he's bad at foreshadowing and symbolism.
>>219876680TAOOBA!
>>219878807THAT'S TAOOBA!
Just because the question is interesting and they just talked about it on Preston's stream: if you were Robb Stark, what would you do differently to win the war?
>>219879922Not be King in da Norf and join with Stannis, obviously.
>>2198799221. Don't marry Jeyne Westerling2. Don't let Theon go back to Pyke3. Join up with Stannis or Renly
>>219879922What are the victory conditions? Just winning or saving all Starks from King's Landing?
>>219880035I don't think there's a scenario where Ned lives (at least based on Robb's actions) so I'll say Joffrey and the Lannisters must be desposed and he has to at least get Sansa back.
>>219878807I wish he said it like TA OOOBA! because that's how I imagined him saying it until I actually heard it.
tabooba
>>219879922>accept the fact that your father is already dead and your sisters most likely too>tell the freys to fuck off>send your grieving and insane mother to the eyrie>link up with stannis, like glover said renly is not right>do NOT send theon to the iron islands>after sandwiching the south in record time you and king stannis go clear out the krakens from the north, root balon the double rebel from his keep, execute him and give theon the lordship>war is over in a matter of weeks, smallfolk are happy>main branch lannisters are dead, kevan is smart and swears loyalty with some hostages>tyrell smhyrell, they'll mald a while but the old lady is pragmatic enough to make peace>starks lost ned, sansa, maybe arya. bran and rickon should be fine.>robb probs get offered shireens hand>cat gets to live rest of her life in winterfell with the children who are still alive
>>219880148I never watched HOTD, does he actually say that? Is it old valyrian or something?
>>219880146Can I use OOC knowledge or do I have to work off the things Robb knows? And do I HAVE to save Sansa if I have OOC knowledge Arya is fine?
>>219880020>Don't marry Jeyne WesterlingIt wasn't his fault, he was magicked by Sybell Spicer.
>>219881150why do you want to be obsessive compulsive?
>>219880614>never watched HOTD
>>219880614It means brat or boy or something like that, Aemond says it when he's chasing the not so strong boy on Vhagar.
>>219880595>link up with stannis, like glover said renly is not rightStannis was doomed, he only had a few hundred warriors while Renly had thousands.
>>219881243I couldn't sit through that shit, man. It was total ass.
the sheer variety of houses of note in the Riverlands is truly profound you know. By far the best Kingdom in terms of loreTullys, Freys, Blackwoods, Brackens etc etc. Even the Hoars of old at Harrenhal. What else is this peak?
>>219881356And yet Stannis had to be written out of the show in the most definitive way possible since his victory was most likely.
>>219882073Robb didn't know about shadow babbys.
>>219881356>be baratheon bannerman>stannis and renly declare themselves and make you pledge loyalty>kinda on the edge, maybe will side with renly bc stannis is a bald loser>hear the starks of winterfell are marching south and have declared for stannis>stark and baratheon dream team assembling again>tell renly to fuck off>ride with the rightful king north
>>219882212Renly had the Tyrell army though and they can field over 100,000 men.
>>219876680>DragonThat's another stupid wyvern
>>219883655wyverns are not stupid wyverns are very intelligent
>>219881441>the RiverlandsHome
>>219884003Kinda nuts that the Blackwoods and Brackens can just muster those kinds of numbers at any given time.
>>219884003>>219884024i have a crush on oscar tully
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>>219884143I can see it, he's pretty twink coded for a 20 year old GAM.
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>>219884390>>219884162zooom zooom faggot
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I'm reading the third book and no wonder people like Stannis so much.He's so much more based there.
>>219884599being lawful neutral autismo is fun in rpgs but its also easy and requires less conviction than doing what you think is morally right
>>219884003What a retardedly absurd number of bodies
>>219884731He cockmogged Lord Stokeworth in the orgy at King's Landing.
A spinoff where King Bran gets smothered within a week of taking over and the realm totally disintegrating could be good
>>219884873He'll set up a Weirwood throne and melt into it like Bloodraven did and rule forever.
>>219878744luke is icsh
>>219884895who wants to live forever?
>>219885599Not me, living forever sounds like pure torture.
>>219885599Me, I'll do it
>>219880020>Don't marry Jeyne WesterlingNot going to happen.
>>219883655That distinction existed only in French and British heraldry, and only since the 16th century, and even then it's still considered a type of dragon.
>>219876882Can these wyverns move so we can see the dragons?
>>219879922>step 1>don't make co-operation with any of the other factions fighting the Lannisters impossible by seceding>step 2>take Theon with me>Step 3>promote lord Blooddrain Manflayer of the Torturekeep to baggage train supremo rather than putting him in charge of crucial battles>Step 4>marry the least weasel-like of Walder's get before starting the campaign
>>219879922Obviously send the Nights Watch 100 men so they find a reason to release Jon for me since he’s obviously a lot smarter than I am
Was surprised to recall book Joffrey is supposed to be taller than Robb. Then I remembered book Jaime is taller and stronger than show Dunk.
>>219886443a pity about the face
>>219876680new elden ring movie cast/ourguy/ larys is in
>>219878807was he speaking valyrian so vhagar can understand? i doubt luke understands or can hear shit in the storm
>>219889945i can never remember the bottomright guy's name besides elliot carver.he's obviously there just for the paycheck. meanwhile the rest are unironically thinking this goywood goysloppa is taking their acting careers somewhere
Just finished season 6 on my rewatch. Absolute insanity that there are Feast and Dance apologists who look at those last two episodes that are absolute masterpieces and then cry about how bad they are because "muh battle tactics" "Jon was deliberately written as a dumbass so writing bad" or "ser glup of house shitto was cut a bloo bloo"ASOIAF fanboys are such fucking pseud losers
>>219884024>Kinda nuts that the Blackwoods and Brackens can just muster those kinds of numbers at any given time.In a medieval feudal society, farms = warriors and seeing as the agricultural production of the Riverlands would be a close second to the Reach, they should be the second strongest kingdom in Westeros.
>>219890309you dont have to make a baitpost to talk about GoT, nobody here thinks its cool to bash it when even normies do it, as long as you have some perspective
>>219890256> goywood goysloppa is taking their acting careerswhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>219890309the show isn't perfect but there is A LOT of criticism solely based on the fact the quality dipped right around when it exploded in popularity and became a cultural phenomena, shitting on the most popular show ever because it's kinda justified as if it's a unique opinion is too irresistible for the normie, it became fashionable
>>219890557goywood is cashing in on gaymers recently, its why this movie exists. its just like falllout, mario, minecraft: the movie. something that has no artistic value and is more likely to tarnish (heh) your career than take it into any positive direction
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>>219890359Problem is that the Riverlands are divide both by geography (too many rivers) and politically (the Blackwood-Bracken rivalry is the most egregious example but far from the only one)
>>219889945>all white cast/tv/, is this... the beginning of the end ?
>>219890834No anon, but this the end of the beginning
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a61659973/house-of-the-dragon-rhaenyra-mysaria-kiss-unscripted/>Speaking to The Wrap about episode six, Sonoya revealed there was initially just meant to be a "breath between them or something" before they're then interrupted and it was Emma who suggested they turn it into a kiss.>"It wasn’t scripted as a kiss. I think it was scripted as … there’s just breath between them or something, and then whatever happens is interrupted," she revealed.>Sonoya went onto say they didn't want the kiss to come across as "queer-baity in any sense" and the kiss felt emotionally right for the characters in that moment, after the intimacy of the hug they shared.Was it queer-baity bros?
I feel like if people actually read the books it would temper some of the criticism George gets for supposedly being a nihilist who thinks honour = quick death. Ned made mistakes that led to his downfall, but they weren't any worse than what other more unscrupulous schemers did; he actually performed fairly well for a total newcomer to King's Landing and just got unlucky.
>>219891484>Most blatant "haha lesbos are so cool and stronk" moment>Nah trust me bro it wasn't queer bait
>>219880595>>do NOT send theon to the iron islandsBalon still attacks North, would you kill Theon?
If you had to marry a bastard girl, who is the best bastardfu in Westeros?
>>219891987Daenerys.
>>219891484Men love hot lesbians having sex. Which is why rabid feminists it.
>>219891987Aryan book Tyene Sand
>>219890806I'll grant that the political situation isn't perfect but the geography is great, as it allows the Riverlanders to quickly move their forces to hot sports around the kingdom.
>>219891987Alayne
>>219891484she was gay, rhaenyra targaryen?
>>219891484The directors and writers have no integrity at all for allowing this bullshit
>>219892262Directors ship Rhaenyra and Alicent so showing Rhaenyra as a dyke is good to them.If they had good taste they would ship Alicent/Criston and Rhaenyra/Sunfyre (vore)
>>219892128>Born too late to explore wild medieval-era nature
>>219892374That pic is everywhere in Europe though. If the hills in the background had pines it would be 5 minutes from my home.
>>219892429Wild nature is different though, unfragmented truly wild nature simply doesn't exist in Europe anymore
>>219892458Pic you replied to tricked me.>unfragmented truly wild nature simply doesn't exist in Europe anymoreBiałowieża Forest is pretty natty, if small. There is also ton of untouched land in northern Russia but who cares.
>>219892458there is still plenty of completely untouched nature in Europe.
>>219892374>Born too late to explore wild medieval-era natureThe Riverlands have the least wilderness, (that would be the North) as that region would have been the first and most extensively farmed region in Westeros.
>>219892712>untouched nature in Europe.lol, no.
>>219890550Would you stop breathing through your mouth if I told you that normies love air?Absolutely mind boggling levels of contrarianism to defend the dogshit, masturbatory, fanservice piece of shit that is game of thrones because HBO dropped the ball so hard that it being awful became general consensus.
>>219885400season 1 bran is icsh
>>219891484i love it when the woman acts
>>219892374>>219892771Do you think that the medieval period was just teeming with untouched virgin land?Practically everything post bronze age and below the tree line would have been cultural landscapes reiterated for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Jeor Mormont is icsh.
>>219891891the kiss makes sense though, they developed a personal connection during a stressful time it's not like they're gonna fall in love it's a fwb thing
Rodrik Cassel is icsh.
Brynden is fish.
>>219893228That's not what fish means.
>>219877283>-4 points for leather armor larp slopIt's very clearly supposed to be a coat of plates, not just pure leather. Why do you think it has all those rectangles and rivets?
>>219891987Mya Stone
>>219893272>grey>covered in scales>swims around the red forkBrynden is fish
>>219893280>Why do you think it has all those rectangles and rivets?Because studded leather in d&d has them.
>>219891987Mya. She's a tomboy with Robert's gigachad blood. What more could you ask for?
>>219893359Sorry, I though you meant other Brynden.Blackfish is indeed fish.
>>219893367And that was just 80s nerds misinterpreting depictions of brigandines and coats of plates.
>>219893378She all used up already
>>219893424RUDEIt's not her fault that faggot ditched
>>219893424That happens later in the story. Just swoop in earlier.
>>219892880>Do you think that the medieval period was just teeming with untouched virgin land?Compared to post-industrialization Europe? Yes.The Romans marched over the Rhine and were promptly swallowed by the forest and slaughtered by bare assed barbarian cavemen.
>>219893594gr8 b8
>>219893594That was before Charlemagne popularized heavy iron plough and 3 field system. Before these agriculture north of Danube wasn't very effective.
>>219893180>>219893088forced meme
>>219893594>romansthe worst deforesters in history?
>>219879922Build a bridge instead of relying on some old boomer sitting on his toll bridge (make note to return and pull the twins down after the war and hang freys as traitors to their liege lords), tell my mom to go to the vale and stay there until they pledge to our house, keep Theon by my side, communicate with my commanders. Execute Jamie, consider Sansa dead.
>>219893088>>219893180but jeor and rodrik are not icsh tho
Jon "Greatjon" Umber is icsh.
>>219894255but jon umber is not icsh tho
>>219894610Sorry you are gay.
>>219893494He's confusing her with Bella the hooker.
>>219894255>>219894610>forced meme
This anon is icsh.
>>219894820At this point its just the lemmings trying to save face because they didn’t realize the first couple weeks they were literally posting that they wanted to have sex with a young boy
>>219895001I immediately knew it was some pedoshit.
>>219895001What the fuck did they think it meant?
>>219895033>>219895001it's the same guy who posts about the twink faggot characters in HOTD and pesters anons with his faggot ERP prompts, the only reason i haven't filtered it is because i know eventually this place will turn on the faggot and he gets driven away by the eventual chudification once s3 starts
>icsh posters
>>219894890but we don't know if anon is icsh tho
>>219895001that's not what icsh means tho
>>219895292it's not the same anon tho
>>219895454left is vh not icsh tho
Why didn't they just have the Mountain rape Joffrey into behaving himself?
>>219895764Despite his depravities theres no evidence the mountain likes boys
>>219895672Everyone is if you are strong enough.
>>219893714Effective returns or not by that point the German landscape had been subjected to five thousand years of human intervention in the form of grazing, slash and burn agriculture, deforestation, etc.
>>219895796>>219895741>>219895716>>219895696>>219895672spending your entire free time on trolling le chuds because you chose to post on a chud website to begin wtih is not the epic trole you think it is. you could just find a place that suits you better so you don't have to play at these retarded antics like the faggot you are.
>>219893280yeah bro, looks just like a coat of plates fucking mongoloid
>>219876784this show coulda been great if it wasn't made by literal gay dyke tranny faggots in the worst period of human history ever
https://youtu.be/dt-RuKUQSvg
The targs in Dunk are way more interesting than the targs in HotD. Kind of a big problem.Aegon is still greatAemond is great too but a big part of what worked was Alicent, fucking up alicent actually fucks up Aemond a lot in complicated ways. Now we have to deal with Aemond fighting his mommy and his brother and his family when that's not what the story was ever about. It was more like the right wing side of your family versus the left wing in-law side of your family. You're supposed to be with the people who are on your side. Now he's just a regular ass villain. Fucking infuriating.And those are the good things left in HotD. lol.
>>219899131the problem is that targs in dunk act like human beings and not like some writers OC
>>219899131Periodically they get Aemond very right (Aegon offers the throne, Aemond is tempted, but you can tell his has a weird sense of honor where he wants to inherit it properly, not be given it.)But hten season 2 he just burns his brother in front of his army. Because he is le villain. So fucking stupid. I could have even bought him arriving late because he thinks Aegon was an idiot (though I wouldn't love this either) but directly burning him? Pointless. Why not just have him struggle against Meleys and he gets burned! Aemond arrives late or doesn't. It's honestly so much more compelling that they were brothers on the same side than he is a villain who killed his brother for power. Come on. Aemonds face when Aegon tempted him alone is far more compelling than Aemond burning him in a dragon battleIM STILL MAD ABOUT THIS YEARS LATER FUCK WOMEN FUCK JEWS FUCK BLACK PEOPLE
I thought Rooks Rest was still kino (I could criticize it but overall I highly enjoyed it and it mostly gave me what I wanted) But I am literally Aegon II Targaryen.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ejgv1Oqx3Hw
TAKE A STINGING LANCE TO THE HEART, BEESBURY.
>>219899388I'm actually hyped for Season 3. I think it'll have incredibly high highs and incredibly low lows, even more stark heh than Season 2.
>>219897650>posts literal larper armor
>>219889538how?
Why is House Stark so OP?
>>219892005unproven theory>muh red door, muh lemon tree
>>219901429seething
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Just found out that Dan Romer did one of my other favorite series' score, Netflix's Maniac.
King Renly was the rightful king and would have been better than any other claimant
>>219902429just looked at the wiki, looks kino, thanks anon
>>219902534It drags a bit in the final 1/3 but it's extremely good. Great music too as you might imagine. The director is Cary Fukunaga who was a large part of why True Detective season 1 was so good.
>>219902831You conveniently forgot that he dun wun eet.
>>219902880unca benjin!
>>219902831He just wanted to keep drinking, partying and whoring, irl they would have indulged him in abdicating like he wanted.
>>219902025>no you you see this hypothetical range of lemons implies that everything we and in-setting character think they know is a monstrous lie!Honk honk. George has never spent a single second thinking about plant habitats.
IM A BETTA SWORDSMAN AND RIDAH THAN ANY OF THEM! ITS NOT FEH!
>>219903032Maybe in normal times, but there was the succession crisis caused by the king choosing his daughter as heir, and then Alicent telling people the king chose Aegon on his deathbed. Abdicating would have been fine if he was the assumed heir and the next in line was also generally acceptable and willing (our boy Aemond)
BASTID
>>219903192 I don't get why there would have been a "problem" with a queen ruling westeros Rhaenyra was a TARGARYENWith a DRAGONNo one would care a woman was ruling.
>>219903322If she wasn’t such a fucking WHORE and refrained from shitting out bastards she would have been fine, and Aegon the BASED wouldn’t have had to summon his legions to shut that shit down
>>219903322They still had to sell it to the regular Westerosi nobles, none of them were happy about the precedent being set, and then Alicent tipped the scales by reporting that Aegon was chosen as heir at the last minute. And the Aegon/Alicent clique had based Otto Hightower pulling for it, maybe the most important single factor. But he wouldn't have had anything to pull on if the other factors weren't in place. The show kind of fucked this by depicting Alicent as being unambitious in herself, or that she was sidelined only because she didn't have a voice on the small council, in the books she wanted to be queen mother and she was able to plot for it behind the scenes.
>>219902441His homosexuality and heir siring capabilities are a ticking time bomb, a war would be inevitable with him on the throne
>>219903279I thought this was Jeremy Clarkson from the thumbnail. If Top Gear lads were in ASOIAF, which region would they hail from?
>>219903727Gay people can still have kids, especially with a wife as pragmatic as Margaery
>>219904236>Gay people can still have kidsNot in game of thrones world a-frickin-parently
>>219903322Honestly I think most nobles would have been okay with it had Viserys just not remarried and she remained the sole child of his.Like it was Otto who suggested making her the heir clearly because he fucking hated Daemon and didn't want him near the throne, plus there was Jeyne Arryn ruling the Vale as sole Lady so there was previous precedent of a woman ruling just Rhaenyra would have been first queen.The issue was Viserys having more sons after and refusing to follow the standard Andal traditions of sons before daughters.
>>219904236Margaery would have probably just had Loras join them in bed so Renly could get the job done.
>>219904236>I have arranged marriages with maidens >and share my bedchambers with men grown I got news for you, that means you're Targaryen
>>219904236Cersei pls, she is a maid.
>>219902441Stannis wanted power, in order, for three reasons.1. It's the law.2. Rage at the corruption at court which he wanted to root out.3. He never had it very good and it would be nice to finally be on top for a change.For Renly it was almost entirely #3 even though he did have it good; he just wanted more, and it was all a game to him. He would've been another Robert in no time, dragging the realm into perhaps even worse debt.
>>219904572Laenor was super gay. His penis didn't work within a 15 feet radius of women.
>>219902441Renly was a idiot fop.He would have been a terrible king.
All of this could've been avoided if that albino, kinslaying fuck bloodraven had died upon his first breath
>>219899448beesbury hotbeesbury coldbeesbury in the potnine days old
>>219892839i used to be icsh now i'm just vh
>>219900627Other blood
>>219906570What was so special about this guy anyway?
>>219906663>What was so specialhe's shirtless
>>219903156He was tho
>>219907085NO!
There’s sawdust in the bread…
>>219906663He was the ancestor of all the cool guy fan favorite characters. Bronn the funni mercenary? Everyone who went with Jun Snu to the fist of the first men? Sprung from the loins of your man.
>>219908975don't be stupid
>>219903322Had Rhaenyra been married to Deamon in proper Valyrian fashion, all the trouble could have been avoided.
How much faster would the Golden Company march given that they don't have levied peasants slowing them down?
>>219903322>I don't get why there would have been a "problem" with a queen ruling westerosThere really shouldn't be, as Gurm has establish the long standing Andal tradition of women inheriting in their own right and so there would have already been plenty of Lady Soandsos of House Whatever ruling in their own right..
>>219910440>How much faster would the Golden Company march given that they don't have levied peasants slowing them down?I'd say the Golden Company would be at least as fast if not faster than a Roman legion.Roman Legion Marching Time and PaceRoman legions could march at different speeds depending on terrain, load, and formation, but their marches were highly disciplined and structured.Typical marching ratesVegetius, in De Re Militari, stated that recruits should be trained to march 20 Roman miles (about 30 km) in six hours at the ordinary step, and 24 miles (about 35.5 km) in the same time at a full step Wikipedia+1. This equates to roughly 5 km/h at the ordinary pace and 6 km/h at the full step Reddit. In practice, these were sustained paces, not constant running, and required careful management of supplies and rest.On-road vs. off-road marchesOn-road: A typical legionary could move at 1.27–1.34 m/s (about 4.59–4.83 km/h) over 29 km in ~7.5 hours History Stack Exchange.Off-road: Slower, around 0.67–0.76 m/s (1.5–2.75 km/h), making long single-column off-road marches unsustainable for large armies History Stack Exchange.In wet or muddy conditions, movement could drop to 8 miles/day or less Reddit.
>>219910544what's "less reddit"? 6? 7?
>>219903322Jaehaerys' great council set a precedent that didn't favour her and that precedent was favoured at a ratio of about 20 to 1 among the nobility.
>>219903322>I don't get why there would have been a "problem" with a queen ruling westerosNone, even Medieval Europe didn't have a problem with it. Jadwiga has crowned the King of Poland, and that was it, to give an example.
>>219903415The whole "Targaryen blood" aspect is retarded either way. Isn't Daenerys something like 1/64 Targaryen?
>>219911135>fantasy genetics
I HATE projections of Targaryen genetics. They always, and I mean always, make the assumption that every fucker who marries into thee house is descended entirely from one house. No, Aerys' children are not 50% Blackwood, unless Betha Blackwood was the product of thousands of generations of incest.
>>219911103>jadgiwa>a whore who broke her sacred vows and was a plaything to her advisors and nobilityi am noooticing
So where do whores go
>>219892172HER GIANT HAND WILL KILL US ALL
>>219912576in my bed of course
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>>219912777>if i keep posting this meme straight from twitter will people think its funny eventually?
>>219904587It wasn't just Andal, the Targaryens practiced son before daughter (like with Aegon I)
>>219910330no one wanted a GROOOOMER like daemon on the throne
How did you guys cope your way through Dany's boring, irrelevant chapters?
>>219889945That's Tyland
>>219906042trvke
>>219904236It'd be interesting a scenario where Marg was pregnant with Renly's son and passed him as Joffrey's kidAfter all the scheming to pass Joffrey as a Baratheon heir, Cersei gets outplayed and a true Baratheon becomes the rightful heir.
>>219915085>mud wrestling with a tranny>alicent feet enjoyerlarys is /ourguy/
Bran is an impressive exercise in an author making you hate a character who isn't even evil or annoying just because he's such a waste of time.
Why does Melisandre need to go all the way to Westeros? Dany’s Red Priestess can just commune with her telepathically
>>219905598Renly just wanted to get rid of the Lannisters' hold over Joffrey and King's Landing, that's why he offered to make Ned Regent free of charge. Also remember that Stannis had locked himself up on Dragonstone for over a year and hadn't answered any letters. Only after Ned got arrested/executed did Renly crown himself king, because it's the only way to bring Tyrell to his side and ensure his survival.
>>219917011Cant use your boobs and vagene telepathically
Was Ros originally supposed to take Jeyne Poole's role in the show? I don't see why they would have started her character in the North and had a whole scene to establish her having a preexisting relationship with Theon that was never relevant again instead of just starting her off as a whore in Littlefinger's brothel if that wasn't the plan.
>The very idea of it chilled Catelyn to the bone. What chance would a fifteen-year-old boy have against seasoned battle commanders like Jaime and Tywin Lannister?>>>>>>>>JaimeSince when is Jaime a seasoned battle commander? He didn't even fight in Robert's Rebellion, let alone lead men.
>>219918919>Was Ros originally supposed to take Jeyne Poole's role in the show?The plan was that her scenes and dialog would help explain and expand the background elements of the show, such as the politics and society but D&D were totally incompetent nepobabby hacks, so she quickly became just a random whore who flashed her tits and when the actress realized this, she bailed on the show.
>>219914156>How did you guys cope your way through Dany's boring, irrelevant chapters?Relentless masterbation.
>>219919948Reminder that she's tanned brown.
>>219919764Typical first-bookism to hype up characters who turn out to be nobodies in hindsight.
>>219919764The most unrealistic thing is Robb not marching to the wall and pulling Jon out of the watch by his hair before going south.
>>219919764I'm pretty sure this is mentioned more than once in the text and he certainly doesn't come across as someone totally new to command. The only possible explanation is he had some commanding role in fighting the Greyjoys; though it's never explicitly stated that he was involved in that war at all in the books.
>>219910597>> History Stack Exchange>> Reddit> what's "less reddit"? 6? 7?Links for the citations.
>>219905598>Stannis wanted power, in order, for three reasons.You've got them in backward order. Stannis always wanted power and prestige and endlessly seethed that his drunk jock older brother had it while he didn't, so "the law" was just an excuse to get what he wanted.
>>219920160>the law" was just an excuse to get what he wantedGRRM said that stannis is truly just and not motivated by selfishness
>>219920051Half the story doesn't make too much sense when you think on it, frankly. George needs characters to be really dumb or erratic for the story to progress. The most extreme example of this is Balon, who exists for the sole purpose of being a bad strategist, then immediately dies when George doesn't need his blundering to progress the story anymore.
>>219920200GRRM also said that he would finish the series.
>>219920160That's not even true for show Stannis, who is just pussywhipped by his gf. The Jew showrunners like the characters to be heavily simplified and one-note, and that was the note they chose for him.
>>219920200>GRRM said that stannis is truly just and not motivated by selfishnessNo he didn't and it's not at all supported by the text, where Stannis' entire character is an angry and petulant crybaby who had always played second fiddle to Robert.His constant citing of "the law" only reinforces his character using this as an excuse to finally gain the power and glory he always wanted.
>>219892839tommen was icsh
>>219879922 ldepends on when we start from. Let's say from the point of Whispering Wood since that seems like a good point.>execute Jaime for the execution of Papa Ned>Keep Theon with me as a hostage since that's what he is >attack the Westerlands with all the same aggression shown to the Riverlands>Sieze lands and hostages>try and court the Tyrells since they don't go to Stannis>Use Frey and Boltenman as the Frontline saving my own as reserves.>Keep Jayne Westerling as a paramour, marry the Frey girl>ransom siezed Western lands off then fuck off with my loot and spoils.>stay King in the North and refortify Moat Caelin
Which region has the best wives, though?
>>219920348hes going to be dead in less than 5 years at this point
>>219921132Whichever place has the most dairyfarms
>>219912576why did this make tyrion spurg out
>>219920422Take it up with George
>>219921132The Reach because of the Hightower masterrace.
>>219879922Refuse the king in da norf proclamation, declare support for Stannis and maybe try to mediate between him and Renly, don't give Roose half the army and instead keep him close, don't send Theon to the islands, marry the Frey girl, keep Jaime properly guarded. Maybe contact the Martells to try to prod the coward Doran to fight his alleged enemies instead of waiting endlessly. Doesn't really require OOC knowledge but avoids the obvious disasters.
>>219920160>>219920359Stannis and Daenerys share the same flaw in that while they might have good intentions and are genuine in their desire to build a better world, they cannot conceive of a better world that exists without them ruling it.
>>219921796>they cannot conceive of a better world that exists without them ruling itThat doesn't matter. The problem is that they wouldn't be able to make one even if they did rule Westeros.
>>219921132the Reach because they will be the healthiest
>>219921231>Hightower masterraceBased bloodline of azor ahai
>>219921528>Dornish>FightLol, that's a good one.
>>219911135Ironically this is ripped straight from Tolkien, who wrote in his letters that the Elvish blood in Numenoreans dilutes very, very, very slowly.
>>219923845lol dumb boomer doesn’t understand geneticsno wonder he was so opposed to national socialism he got the england he wanted
>>219920422ywnbaw
>>219924125>no wonder he was so opposed to national socialismNo, that's because it was a retarded ideology that got Germany split in half and permanently occupied, gave away half of Europe to Communism, started a war where 90% of all victims were white and lessened the influence and importance of Europe to the point only now it's slowly crawling back up.
Does anyone have a good webm of Dunc rising from the dirt. Love that scene
>>219919764Makes sense that Catelyn would quake in her boots at the thought of her young son going to to toe with a seasoned child raping african warlord like Tywin.
>>219921132The arbor.
The Wolfswood is the size of a country.
>>219924834yes, i have that.
>>219925444A very very small country.
>>219925188>boots
>>219925541That's most countries
>Jaime to Edmure: I am told your wife is pretty. She'd have to be, for you to bed her while your sister and your king were being murdered.
>>219925521nice, thanks
We're never getting that Daemon Blackfyre show are we?
>>219925746Better that way, I don't want to see what the likes of condom and hiss would do to daemon, aegor, brynden and shiera without any source material to hold them accountable when a history book like fire and blood can't.
>>219925613Smaller than all very very small countries. A lot smaller. Extremely smaller.
>>219925724You're welcome.
>>219925934>condom and hissWe could call Laura "Hissterical" or something, after the widespread phenomenon of female mental illness.
>>219925521may I see it?
>>219925746you'll get maekars flashbacks and youll like it
>>219925566Sorry, Myrish slippers.
>>219925740Volantene chud son or Lyseni slut daugther?
>>219903322there's also the fact that a big part of naming Rhaenyra as a heir was so Daemon wouldn't sit on the throne... but then big Rhae marries him anyway
>>219921231true
>>219922902>*defeats the Targaryens every time*lmao (((targ))) cope
>>219928002>Hey beautiful, wanna check out my Old Valyria Warhammer set?
renly is king
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>>219928213>Rhaenyra is supposed to be the main character>both Alicent actresses mog the 'Nyra actor/actresswhy did they cast it like that?
>>219927832>loses and acts even more uncivilized than Ironborn
>>219928555>loseslmao which war? hahahaha cope and seethe, dragons lost.
>>219928555>loses
>>219928594>>219928595They got their shit rocked by Daeron the Young who conquered all of Dorne before he even turned 14, then the Dornish chimped out and assassinated the Targ peace envoys
>>219928651Daeron won? He forced Dorne to submit and ruled it?
>>219928679Yes.
>>219928679Well, no...The Dornish resisted, Daeron died, and Dorne won the war.
>>219928651>then the Dornish wonYeah
>>219928706>>219928707WHY THE FUCK DOES DORNE WIN EVERY WAR?!
>>219928706>>219928707Daeron ruled Dorne for 4 years before he was assassinated.
>>219928752>loses 50,000 men to Dornish rebels>dies>Dorne wins againlmao
>>219928843>Prince of Dorne kneels>lords kneel>smallfolk kneel>leaves Lyonel "the retard" Tyrell in charge>then rebellion years laterThat's like saying Aegon didn't actually conquer the North because they became independent again 300 years later.
>>219928920Aegon didn't lose 50,000 men occupying the north, or get killed by northerners, or fail after only 4 years of an attempted occupationBy your logic Germany won WWII because it occupied France for 4 years lmaoDorne won. Again. As always. Cope and seethe lol.
>(((Targ))) seethe over losing to the Dornish over and overKEK
>>219928952based
>>219928952>n-n-nooo th-that doesn't count!I accept your concession. Kneel like the Dornosh bitch you are.
>>219929022>totally giving up on even trying to debate pointsLooks like Dorne wins again lol
>>219928920>That's like saying Aegon didn't actually conquer the North because they became independent again 300 years later.>>219928920>Aegon didn't lose 50,000 men occupying the north, or get killed by northerners, or fail after only 4 years of an attempted occupationlol
>Dorne wo- ACK!
>>219928952>Aegon didn't lose 50,000 men occupying the north, or get killed by northerners, or fail after only 4 years of an attempted occupationInstead House Targaryen stopped existing altogether because of a Northerner.>By your logic Germany won WWII because it occupied France for 4 years lmaoThey did. They won the war against France. France stopped existing as an independent state. This is such a retarded argument.
>>219929151>House Targaryen stopped existingbased, what a loser house lol>They did.Weird, can't Nazi Germany on the map... odd cope...
>Dornish chimpazoids still coping and seething they never managed to win a war by actually fightinglollmao even
>>219929201>Weird, can't Nazi Germany on the map...Just like that free and independent Dorne.
>>219928978Nothing makes Targfags seethe more than Dorne.They killed a dragon, killed a queen, beat every Targ army in every war... It's humiliating. No wonder the Blackfyres hated them.
>>219929230Nazi Germany married into a house that couldn't beat it?
>>219929273Yes? The entire NATO top brass were nazi German officials and generals.
>>219929312Aaaaand thats based?
>>219929312>Nazi Germany>ceases to exist in 1945>NATO>created in 1949Looks like no chance... just like (((Targ))) chances of beating Dorne lol
>>219929330I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. Your entire argument is based on some really strange copes.Daeron won. Winning is winning.
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>>219929377>Daeron won>loses 50,000 men to Dornish rebels>dies>Dorne wins againlmao
