4.5 mil $ btw (Invincible - 12 mil $/season btw)
>>21988789811 mil out of that paid for voice actors lmao
oh, poor baby, is your little drawing not smooth enough or is it too smooth now?
outsourced to north koreans for 100 grams of rice per day.
>>219888214
>>219887898Go back to /a/
Reddit Man looks like shit tho. CRAPPA cannot animate.
>>219888237Yeah as opposed to the gooks they're overpaying in Vancouver
>>219889167We've seen the movie man..
>>219887898It's>$4.5 millionYou fucking faggot.
>>219887898I don't know what's more retarded:Choppy animation that looks like a game rendered at 12 fps(chainsaw man movie) or drag and drop animation(invincible)
I honestly don't think you CAN be a true cinephile if you haven't seen AT LEAST 100 anime series/movies.
>>219888175in anime voice actors also get the biggest part of their anime budgets, you faggot
>>219890531Yes but they dont ask for 200k burgers an ep the animation isnt outsourced to gooks
>>219887898>full 3D blender to 2Dseems like a lot of wasted efforthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thrjIt01IP4
>>219890593Admitting they get paid way less isn't the flex you think it is
>>219890479
>>219890531i find that hard to believe.who the fuck knows anything about jap voice actors?
>>219890678they do it because it takes less effort than real 2d, not more
>>219890895
>>219891008sugoisugoi
>>219887898Looks like a Newgrounds flash animation
>>219887898A season of invincible is far longer than that movie was
>>219891008i don't listen to japanese whiny voices, but that seems like way too much pay to have characters sound the same
>watch random literal who anime from 80s>animation 100 times better than anything modernhow the fuck did we done fell this far
>>219891008sex with the chief animator
>>219890729actually it is, fair compensation
>>219887898It was all a dream including the animation, axedman
>>219887898This is repulsive to look at
>>219890593>>219891008NTA but, this is annual income, what is the cost per episode or at least hourly? In Yakatashi Moonjapmoto gets paid 600000K a YEAR across all the shows they work on but Steven Yuen gets paid 200K per EPISODE of JUST invincible these aren't even close to being on the same scale.
>>219887898You niggas are so retarded! 4.5 million yes but everyone is being underpaid severely. Also comparing one hour and a half movie to an 8 episode season?
>>219890531And the writers?
>>219889275shut up homo
>>219893579Im pretty sure she was naked in the mangawhat is this censored trash?
Redditsaw is for brown "people"
>>219887898Japan animators are also underpaid and crunched to extremes.I guess the difference is literally the talent between western and eastern animators.
>>219894182Yes, but also the animators and storyboarders work together in Japan. They can figure out intention by just asking the others in the pipeline and produce a more true vision. Western executives fired all animators and outsourced that decades ago. The pipeline does not exist to nurture the talent, There is basically no solid way to make money as an animator unless your exceptional or as a storyboarder. Idiots don't realize a vast chunk of anime animators, are westerners, chinese and korean as the japanese are opting out of animation because of the trash pay. People do anime out of passion and as a flex, not to sustain themselves and if they do they often live very short lives.
>>219891008>i don't listen to japanese whiny voices, but that seems like way too much pay to have characters sound the same
>>219892599your face is repulsive to look at
>>219894448if you don't look like this get off my board
>>219894415>japanese are opting out of animation because of the trash payFor years, and every one or two months I have seen news about >studios will improve animators working conditions>studios will raise animators wages>studios will generate new industry talentEither these things haven't been done or they are just not working at all. Zoomers and younger japanese aren't interested in the industry at all. On top of companies having stupidly unrealistic plans of expansion these days.This industry will crash and burn.
>>219894627its ok japan is starting their importation of jeetsainime soon sirs
>>219890436>Choppy animation that looks like a game rendered at 12 fpsZoomers and their obsession with LE SMOOTH 60FPS animation are annoying.
>>219894448It's amazing how you can take such a simple and elegant post format and ruin it with AI like thisIt's over for humanity
>>219888214Bros...
>>219887898CSM sucks. Read the first few dozen or so chapters. Boring crap. No real story and the MC's big goal in life... is to get laid. Wow. Very cool.
>>219897759>No real storyIt has a real story, you are just too dumb
>>219897211It's le references
Just stopping by to say Power won
>>219898371>>219897684what's wrong broskis
>>219897211soulles japs
>>219898371whats the matter?
>>219898627>>219898421stop
>>219898627>>219898421
>>219898711stop what?
>there are anons in this thread trying to convince us this movie is badly animatedWhat causes this mental illness?
>>219898421>>219898627>>219898744>>219898771Lol, no wonder this crap hit like a nuke on the lonely incels
>>219891008Trying to convert their salaries from Yen to USD is pointless. The Yen has been obliterated since COVID and shows no sign of stopping with the impending oil crisis in Asia. You should show what their Yen salaries are
>>219894182>Japan animators are also underpaid and crunched to extremes.Anon, Invincible was literally outsourced to slave animators in North Korea.This isn't an issue of overworking or underworking, it's mostly a passion issue.What fucking animator is passionate about working on some outsourced shit based on a comic they've never even heard of (no one outside of the Americas cares about Invincible)?
>>219894182Half-true.Inbetweeners are paid like slaves.They get paid per drawing.>one-drawing takes 30 minutes to do>they get paid 1.2€ or $1.4 for itMeanwhile, the key animators get paid like 10 times that.
>>219891008>>219899197Oh wait I see it now>$1 USD equals 116 YenLol, lmao even. The USD hasn’t equaled 116 yen for years now. The Yen was just $1=159 yen today. So for example the “A-List voice actor” makes the equivalent of $437K USD today. The animator makes $6600. I don’t think anyone realizes how poor salaries are outside of the US. Why do you think Hollywood outsources so much to places like Canada and the UK who also have obliterated currencies and suppressed salaries
>>219899373>I don’t think anyone realizes how poor salaries are outside of the US.Reminds me of that story that came out recently that stated that based on actual figures, if the UK was a US state it would be the absolute poorest state in the union based on median salaries and GDP per capita.
>>219894448>he listens to japanese whiny bitches and stares at the bottom of the screen instead of whatever his native language islmao, wild
>>219899555Dubs are such an american thing. Horrendous, typical american opinion.
>>219887898invincible has actually competent voice actors instead of nip cringe
>>219900167Invincible has incredible voice acting, but Csm isn't bad either
What the fuck is wrong with you people. Why is the only takeaway from the the IP "x won" and rezze spamming? How are you not disgusted by the fact that the pedophile wish fulfillment for the show and 40 minutes of le cute girl for the movie are all CSM has to try and prop itself up with because it's fucking nothing, the show, otherwise? This is the worst anime I've ever seen. Tried to do nothing new, nor does it piggyback on a classic theme and narrative structure. It's just eye candy, 50% of which is sexy women, wow! All it has is cool monster designs and good animation.>>219898834The only sane anon ITT
>>219900195The fuck is this autist saying?Why is this site full of retarded schizo posts like this now?No wonder this board is so fucking dead outside of autistic eceleb fishtank threads.
>>219900195>What the fuck is wrong with you people. Why is the only takeaway from the the IP "x won"That's just powerbros>and rezze spamming?She cute>pedophile wish fulfillment What? What the fuck is pedophilic in the show? You absolute schizo>it's fucking nothing, the showYou unironically didn't get it. I can agree the first season is the weakest part of the story, but part 1 is a masterpiece in storytelling and animeonlies will realize it once gun and control arcs are adapted. But the Reze movie is already very good, not groundbreaking, but very good.Part 2 is unsalvageable dogshit though
>>219900191jk simmons mogs all those litteral who's
>>219900395>adult makes out with, pukes in the mouth of, abducts, mounts, and generally takes advantage of minor>retardanon wonders what I could POSSIBLY be referring toYou people are sick. You have mentally checked out of reality.
>>219900195>le pedophilesAlright time to fucking filter this word. Fuck off and kill yourself
>>219900520Denji is legal in most countries, he's 16, calling it pedophilia is a HUGE stretch, but most importantly Himeno didn't actually end up having sex with him so it doesn't even happen.The scenes exist both to develop Denji as a character (his goal isn't ACTUALLY just sex, as he refuses Himeno, he needs actual, real connection) and Himeno (her pitiful attempts at making Makima jelous, her desperation about Aki and her depressing drunken lifestyle)
>>219900596Far from the only problem with it but that's a weird reaction to have. Seems defensive. Better filter the word, wouldn't want to be reminded of any negative connotations and get distracted from worshipping a female cartoon character.
cringe gooner slop
>>219900641I don't know the age of consent in devil japan, but the character expressly admits to very nearly getting in a lot of trouble, perhaps even legal trouble, had she had sex with him.>arguing the finer points of sex crimes against minorsWhy do you want to take up that position?>denjis goalsOnce he finds himself in a place of relative material comfort, he realizes none of it matters without a romantic partner. This immediately becomes touching boobs the next episode. Then after Power he realizes sexual encounters without genuine connection are unsatisfying. Then he gets abducted and nearly raped. We already knew that he knew sex without connection is unsatisfying. This scene was pointless and far too drawn out, lasting nearly an entire episode. We already knew eye patch was sad and lonely and has separation trauma. We did not need to see 20 minutes of this shit. It was not necessary.
>>219900971>Why do you want to take up that position?I am not taking any position on the topic, it's just weird to claim the show appeals to pedophiles when Denji is like 16 and the sex doesn't even happen in the end.>We already knewWe knew it wasn't satifsying, we didn't know Denji would straight up reject sex. This is character development, it shows touching Power's boobs changed his viewpoint on relationships.> lasting nearly an entire episodeI agree it was a bit drawn out, it was 8 minutes (though it included a flashback and internal monologue)So this is what you actually have as a criticism, a scene was drawn out a bit. Ok, we'll suvive.
>>219900716>hmmm what an odd reaction to have>you should WANT to read schizo theories about pedos every single day in every topic of discussion>suspicious much?Fucking hang yourself cancer
>>219900395I read the manga, the Reze and Santa arcs are decent but the rest of it is nothing special and the end is total ass. I didn't bother with the sequel series. Extremely overrated manga.
>>219887898but this was a movie, not a show
>>219897211Most of these are a real stretch.Another 25% appear to be direct intentional references the viewer would recognize.
>>219900747>true fanservice shows are dead so zoomers call fucking Chainsaw man goonerGrim as fuck
>>219902262>everyone i disagree with is a zoomerkys
Conquest x Conquest
>>219894738>Zoomers and their obsession with LE SMOOTH 60FPS animation are annoying.Think 24 fps would be fine. But I'd take 60!
For some reason I've thought I was really out of the loop for this story having only seen the first season of the anime, but now that I check I see that's literally all that has released in the last 5 years aside from this new movie. I'll watch it soon>>219898371>>219898711This reze lady better be actually good depression fuel and not just you being pathetic with shit taste
>>219904970>shit tasteIf you end up not liking her, you are the only one with shit taste, my friendEnjoy the movie
>>219905155thanks
>>219890531>SAG AFTRA Membership costs are:>Initiation (one-time): Varies — typically includes a joining fee plus first-year dues; recent reported totals for joining have ranged from about $3,000–$5,000 depending on local and contract conditions (exact amounts change).>Annual dues: Members pay annual dues calculated as a fixed base plus a percentage of applicable earnings under SAG‑AFTRA contracts; there’s also a minimum annual dues requirement.>Work dues: For each paycheck under a SAG‑AFTRA contract, a small percentage is paid to the union (often called a work dues or per‑paycheck assessment).>Current SAG‑AFTRA member costs (as of latest published rate sheets):>Initiation (one‑time): $3,000. >Annual base dues: $236.60 (recently published; Backstage lists $231.96 but Topsheet shows $236.60 — the union’s published figure is $236.60). >Work (payroll) dues: 1.575% of SAG‑AFTRA‑covered earnings, assessed on each paycheck up to $1,000,000 of earnings. LMAO
>>219887898Will I ever enjoy digital animation...
>>219894448I know this is AI but is this physique natty achievable? Or do you think he's enhanced?
>>219906544I've seen it irl, it's natty
>>219906759I presume you live near Mount Olympus
>>219900167ok, boomer.
>>219887898This film was getting great reviews so I decided to watch it with a buddy and was shocked at how bad it was. I waited over an hour to see a chainsaw man and when the guy finally became a chainsaw man the fight scene was complete garbage. Thank god we decided to pirate it since we would've been pissed if we paid money for that trash.
>>219908519>a chainsaw man and when the guy finally became a chainsaw manFrom the way you speak I have the suspicion you had not watched season 1 and were therefore not invested in any characterSo I can see why the experience was disappointing, the first part is just a random romance segment if you don't know his backstory>the fight scene was complete garbageI loved itMy only complaint is that Denji loses too hard, it's very one sided which makes it slightly less interesting
Modern digital anime is souless compares to classic anine.
>>219898771just... stop.
>>219898421I wish I had taken up a fenale friend on her suggestion we cosplay together. Maybe even ask her ouylt as more than friends. She wasn't busty like yhat, rather flat, but still a cute Japanese girl.I fucked up, anons.Don't let oppertunities pass you by.
>>219891008wait, how did diesel-san get paid more than an animator?
>>219908732Yeah if the film is only enjoyable as an extension of the tv show that's perfectly fine, maybe it's my fault for thinking that it was more accessible for a general audience like myself. The final fight scene was too spastic for my tastes, I hate the way modern anime spins the camera around the action to the point where it's hard to follow what's going on. Also (and this is probably because I haven't seen the show) I'm shocked that in a film where a chainsaw man is knocked out and near dead there wasn't a dramatic moment of someone desperately pulling his chain to try and revive him, you'd think that would be a shoo-in for drama.I didn't find the love interest/villain gripping either, and normally I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
>>219891008Ever seen Animation Runner Kuromi?
is this movie a romance for boys too embarrassed to watch actual romance movies? Because Chainsaw Man makes you think of something gritty and action-focused, but I only ever see anons post webms of a teen couple dating or something
>>219887898It's a movie, they tend to be better animated compared to shows
>>219909521>makes you think of something gritty and action-focusedIt is, it's full of gore, season 1 more than this movieIt simply also has romance and anons go crazy for Reze
>>219890531Celebrities get far more and you pay them for their name most of the time, with japanese va's you actually get bang for your buck.
>>219899555t. american
>>219909683I see, that image is much more in line with what I was imagining with that name
>>219899555I wish you could customize the audio track of each character. Sometimes the dub voice actor for a character is better or worse.
>>219899373The cost of living is also less in those places.
>>219887898>>219888238Will Japanese ever stop drawing themselves looking like white people?
>>219909521>>219909853The issues is clear, you only seen the romance scenes from the movie and not the action scenes.
>>219890531Fucking nigger don't you dare compare the professionalism of asian VAs to the cancerous festering garbage of whatever the fuck western VAs think they are.
I can't wait for the next season bros
>>219910171it's because anons on this board only post the romance parts, I don't think I've ever seen a single webm of this movie without that cutesy chick in it
>>219899555>bro you don't listen to the dub? you are such a weeb lmao you hate murica or sumthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
>>219888214Fuck Reze
Reminder this is the canon endinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYlaagpvFAs
So what did (you) think?
>>219910545I think all of part 2 post aquarium arc was shit, but this was actually straight up fucking insultingWhat the fuck Fujimoto
>>219910545Are Denji and Pawa gonna...?
every girl in CM is a manic pixie dream girlpure simpbait lol
>>219887898The dollar sign goes at the front, saar
>>219912184
>>219910545Fujimoto clearly didn't even want to do a part 2 and was forced to because of how popular the anime became. It was a shock but I was half expecting it from the start.
>>219909913>drawing themselveshuh? are you a retarded?
>>219912874>>219909913yeah..
>>219887898>Anime (any) looks better than Western animation>130 repliesNo shit. Who could deny it?
>>219897211MOVIE REFERENCES IN MY HECKIN' MOVIE?! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!
Why can't nips stop drawing white people? Look at this aryan.
>>219909913Reze is from the Soviet Union and while it's likely Denji is japanese, it isn't confirmed.
>>219913038Ok, now show his bf if you dare
>>219913051You mean this flat faced Aryan specimen?
debating anime characters race is so retarded kek, Reze is supposed to be Russian but i see zero Russian in her
>>219913074Clearly a frogman, not a nip.
>>219909913can you blame them? whites are by far the most pleasing to look at
>>219888214>she survived off-screen when the universe got rebootedCouldn't be happier.
>>219913384real
>>219887898>Invincible - 12 mil $/season btw)90% of the money goes to celebrity voice actors and the studio. Only like 1 or 2 million actually goes to the animation team.
>>219913432It shows, the last 2 eps had some nice moments, and the Conquest fight as well. But it's crazy how bad it looks most of the time. If Japan made this show it would be peak
>>219887898>redditslopman
>>219887898Looks they're rotoscoping 3D models. Both Chainsaw man and Invincible look like ass.
>>219908850holy SOUL
>>219897211Does Fujimoto think watching mainstream movies makes him more cultured or something?
>>219913927He does
>>219913927>>219914029>heh....does this manga writer who is very successful and appears to be a big fan of movies and does tributes to them in his work think this makes him....BETTER than me? a bitter cry baby who spends his days on 4chan ?? nahh...
>>219897211Bravo Vince
>>219914106This is not from the movie, it's from the MASTERPIECE directed by the DRAGON
>>219887898>4.5 mil $It was never actually confirmed but the webm is really not impressive by Japan's standards so I wouldn't be surprised even if the budget was really that low>>219894182>between western and eastern animatorsanon, both are animated by eastern animators
>>219894627Not your business, though. When will it crash? 2 more weeks?
>>219913927bruh the manga and the movie are different. He likes this kind of references but he didn't make this movie.
>>219887898I think a lot of talent was lost in the transition from traditional hand-drawn cel animation to digital.
>>219887898should I watch this or is it another piece of weeb slop like frieren?
>>219909913What are you talking about? Those are obviously high school Japanese boys and girls? Can't you see the similarity?
>>219914460I would tell you yes, but I also like Frieren so it's probably for people with better taste than you
>>219914398Lots of talents may have been lost but not because of the transition from cel-animation. It's not like what they do has changed much except the coloring part.
>>219909913If you ask them nicely...
man, gaijins are becoming more and more simply boring and dumb
>>219914142>mfw
>*saves japanese animation*
When will SHE be animated?
>>219914498>weebs>tastegood one anon
>>219914584what do gaijins even do
>Invincible - 12 mil $/season I wonder how much of it is paying celebrities to do voice acting despite it not adding anything.
>>219914592Produce the media that the Japanese then proceed to blatantly rip-off.
>>219909913
>>219914498grim
>>219914631oh that's very ironic isn't it
>>219887898this shit was goyslop of the lowest quality do people really watch a show where the protag actually castrates himself
>>219914631serious question, do mutts, chinese and koreans have any kind of self awareness?
>>219914705His balls regrow
>>219914712do all japs have small dicks like in my pornos?
>>219914680No, they've been doing that from the start. It's just that the Chinese are even worse at it, so we no longer notice.>>219914712Neither of those three cry and piss themselves over how """unique""" they are while stealing from others. My favourite example is Super Mario Bros - every single track in that one is directly stolen from an existing piece of Western media.
>>219914531 >posts literal reaction face from the most mainstream anime of the decade >mfw anon acting like he just discovered fire you’re not special for posting Power being onions-shocked, we’ve all had that face since like 2022. at least crop it or deep fry it or something. do better.
>>219914727>can't even answer>da cleverest gaijin banter it's all so tiresome
>>219914723doesnt matter its the act that counts
>>219914784no need to get so defensive. all I asked was if all japs have small dicks like in my pornos.
>>219914784>da cleverest gaijin banterYWNBJ
>>219914754Di you know that you are mentally ill?
>>219914801what are you, 9? why are gaijins unironically like this?
>>219914825japs = small dicksyes or no?
>>219914829Yes and yes. Japs joking about it themselves all the time.
>>219914815How so? I don't live in a culture that constantly gaslights itself by drawing their members as a different race just because they find their own visages repulsive.
>>219914867Japanese media are full of actual ugly Japs so thinking anime can gaslight real Japs is retarded. That's something only gaijins who don't know what the mainstream Japanese media would say.Also, Americans, Chinese and Koreans are unironically stealing anime art styles on a massive scale.Chinese and Koreans unironically bleaching their skins is far more eerie.Anyway, you know what? You are boring because you will blame Japan no matter what.
Imagine claiming Jap shit are nothing but rip-offs and then bring up the super mario ost as a prime exampleGrow the fuck up
>>219915056>Grow the fuck upthe irony of this post isn't lost on me
It's honestly sad. Gaijins used to be smarter than this at least even when they were assholes. Now they are just salty retards.
>>219887898this looks like shit though
>>219887898
CSM movie: 90 minutes, $50k per minuteInvincible season: 360 minutes, $33k per minute
>>219915764Chapter 231 had already killed this dog gone fandom, but this page raped its corpse
Reze lost btw
>>219915895
>>219887898CSM aside, I managed to slog through Invincible at 2x speed and half the time in the 2nd monitor because nothing ever happens.Other than the usual western media being 80% filler with its B, C and D plots and bloated side-character roster rather than presenting a compeling main story with the only characters I give a single shit about, what baffled me the most is that capeshit has no concept of an Arc? They repeat the same villain of the week or interpersonal melodrama 6+ times in 1ep or half-ep increments spread throughout the run (not per season, they spread that shit thin randomly all seasons). Could they not bundle up the brain-negro (or blue brothers, or martian octopi, etc etc etc.) into bundles of consecutive episodes with a satisfying beggining, middle and end rather than contrived rushed begginings, followed by a forever-middle which is only interrupted by "I'll be back!"s ?No wonder american comic books are so shit and no one reads them. There's no logic to this, and then the main issue at hand with the Viltrumites is just as awkwardly spread out and weirdly rushed at times, between all the filler no one gives a shit about. Hey gay sidekick whose BF got turned into a cybrog, I don't care. Hey lizard people, or minority-mafia-wars, you're all irrelevant compared to the main deal, why do you take up SO MUCH FUCKING SCREENTIME and then COME BACK EVERY SEASON WITH YOUR SHIT?!
>>219894448I look like this and say this
>>219906544No it's only possible for the gods who walk among us.
>>219909106Compensated dating. Earned the nickname diesel-san because the male staff ran a train on her.
>>219918330nuh uh they don't have sex in anime she got the nickname because she studied trains to help out another character I forgot the name of. also I fucked her.
>>219887898 Celebrity voice actors are the Great Satan of American animation.
>>219891008This seems like the budget for a part time animator or one that is contracted to work on just part of a scene.
Embarrassing if youre impressed by this. There's no shading whatsoever, they're faces are all the paint bucket filled in color. Even the shittiest low budget OVAs from the 80s and 90s have better looking characters.Why the FUCK is modern anime so allergic to shading?>>219891335This. All anime today looks like an early 2000s flash animation.
>>219919248>talk shit and gaslight about things that are blatantly falseYou retards are trying too hard, at least get some better bait material.
>>219919476It looks like a flash animation. The backgrounds are pretty, the angles look nice but the characters have no color in them. Completely flat.
>>219902262anime got too popular. it's why I usually stick to manga.
>>219919248>they're faces are allGood morning saar
>>219887898Looks like CGI with 2D overlay.
>>219914519>>219914592>>219914712>>219914784>>219914825>>219914981>>219915157No need to be butthurt.
>>219919589Only a pajeet would be impressed by what OP posted. But AI slop impresses you too, so I can't really blame you.
>>219913459
>>219894448A little bit of Armenian Cory lives in all of us
this is what chainsaw man looks like?and it's a big hit?why does modern anime look so flat and unfinished?
>>219919248>There's no shading whatsoeverGod I can't wait for age verification to kick in so flyover retards and third worlders such as yourself can be banned from this site.
>>219887898Dude this isn't much better looking than Invincible. In some places it looks worse.
>>219920297Not possible, Invincible looks fucking awful in pretty much every way.
>>219920262Nobody in the first world considers this good animation.
Why does anime/manga have this weird culture where many of the creators openly attack their own fans lmao? NGE obviously, Chainsawman, JJK, Attack on Titan, My Hero Academia
>>219920547Begone from my sight, flyover.May your worthless shithole lock down your internet for the good of mankind so I'm no longer subjected to your dumbfuckery.Here's hoping you get thrown in prison and raped in the ass as well.
>>219920219let me guess you want modern anime to look like this?
>>219921248i dont know what that is, but no i dont like it
