>Doors and corners, kid. That's where they get you
>>219887993BLOOD IS ON THE WALL, BERATNAS!
Books > ShowAlso, I keep getting videos recommended in my feed that the show might come back. Is there any truth to this, or is it just slop?
>>219887993I should really do a rewatch.
>>219888498They can bring the show back at any time. They saved detailed files to recreate sets, props, etc. The story is finished, and it has a big time gap for the next part. So actors looking older even fits better. They're releasing a game soon that should generate a lot of interest. All it needs is another network to pick it up.
>>219888727Yeah, im hoping the game doing well sparks renewed calls to finish the laconia ark. They could spread that out and fluff it up quite a bit, not necessarily only 1 season per book.
>>219888650I thought she was hideously ugly at first but by season 3 I was hopelessly in love with her
>>219888727For sure, though I feel they kinda show themselves in the foot a bit with the premature introduction of the Laconian storyline in season 6. Honestly they should've shown what we saw there as flashback sprinkled throughout season 7 instead of wasting precious screentime that could've been used elsewhere.
>>219888498there is a 30year timeskip in the books, so yeah they can pick it up whenever. either using new actors or wait long enough/lots of makeup.it just sucks that alex is gone.hell, they could also fill the timeskip with all kinds of stories, they would need to get actually good writers, which seems to be a problem nowadays.
>>219888815*shot
DA BELTA
>>219888727Please not those four morons again. Give me Tom Jane space noir, give me Harris space insurrection, give me Avasarala space politics, give me random new character exploring the galaxy or whatever but NOT the Moron 4. It's a miracle I enjoyed this show in spite of its main cast
>>219888815Eh, that was Amazon's choice. They cut the episode count lower and ended it on something of a cliffhanger to keep people interested if it ever did get picked back up. It was going to be many years before more seasons though, so I'm sure people were happy to finally see some more of the Roman technology on the new worlds finally
>>219888886No, that's not the story. It's like you're asking to replace han, luke, and leia in star wars. Avasarala is in the next book and Tom Jane eventually does make an appearance. Most of the cast are split up and not together.
>>219888844>dubsNot wrong tbdesu. Alex being gone I can live with show-wise, though I still think it's a shame since he was my favourite character. My concern with both bringing back the show now and with the state of modern writers, they'd turn Duarte into a Trump stand-in and really beat us about the head with a "this is bad(tm)" message, which would be a shame because both the Laconian stuff has potential and what we saw in season 6 could lend itself to some really cool ship designs.
>>219887993I laughed really hard when big man side character supplexed that big prisoner guy down the elevator shaft.
>>219888956Han, Luke, Leia and R2-D2 weren't played by charisma vacuums that couldn't act for shit
>>219888498>BooksHow could you people stomach those? They're full of the pitfalls of modern writing. Not only is the main character basically a walking basedjack, but the book is filled with soap opera drama. Don't get me started on Naomi. Her entire purpose seems to be to give lectures to other people and being morally superior to everyone else around her. She has no other purpose. The moment in the second book where Holden crawls back to her and she goes like "I'm glad you see all the things I'm right on, but that's not enough for me" was almost enough to chuck them right then and there. Granted, I've only read the first two books but that was enough for me as far as the franchise is concerned.
>>219888886This. The main cast is the worst thing about The Expanse. Both, in the show and the book. I think they're even worse in the books from what I remember. >>219888956>It's like you're asking to replace han, luke, and leia in star waraThey've done that.
>>219889086>They've done that.And it was a complete fucking disaster. Bravo.
>>219889139Nah. Also, in terms of the expanse it would be a step up. Because unlike the MCs in this space soap, the star wars cast had charisma.
>>219889030The last good writer was Robert Jordan. You might find something online but commercially published works not a chance.
>>219889030While I will concede they're not the deepest or most imaginative books written setting or plot-wise, they do have good degree of thought put into them in terms of a consequentialist narrative surrounding the "one big lie" (the protomolecule and the Ringbuilders) trope. I find they bridge the gap between "ideas-fiction with forgettable characters" and "too much character, not enough setting and lore" hard(ish) sci-fi.At the very least they show that you don't have to lean too deeply into shit like space-opera or FTL to make an engaging sci-fi story.
>>219888776>by season 3 I was hopelessly in love with herWe all were bro.>show loses a ton of watchability the second Thomas Jane stops being a regular>temporarily regains it when Ashford is aroundDid they really carry that hard?
>>219889242Well, he does have a big dick, so...
>>219887993the episodes in which his character appeared were the only thing good in the entire series, at least up until they forced him into that weird relationship with a molecule
>>219889358That happened in the book, anon
>>219889202>most imaginative books written settingI disagree with that. I think they're very imaginative and created a fascinating vision of what the solar system could turn into in the next few centuries. Since ftl travel is not possible, it sure isn't going to be star trek. What other series has tapped into the concept of people living permanently in zero G to the point they are permanently deformed as well as their children? There are humans that are born, live, and die never being on a planet and find the whole idea extremely weird and uncomfortable. Humanity could turn into a space-only civilization. That's an interesting idea. Of course, that all gets scrambled with the rings opening and suddenly providing thousands of free new worlds.
>>219888498I like the new book series they started, the setup is pretty cool.
>Oye why the pinché hat bosmang?>It keeps the rain off my head.
>>219889242It's funny that Ashford is a loser in the books and only in the third one. They did a good job making him and Drummer way better in the show
>it doesn't matta who we are >wotmatta is our plan
>>219888727NETFLIX FUCKING DO SOMETHING
>>219889394>I think they're very imaginative Bro...>some people live on earth >some people live in space>O no there's a rift between the two >and then dead space happens Bravo! 10/10 for imagination! Btw, Gundam, a Chinese cartoon from the 70s did the premise better. Except that entire "weird alien shit that constantly changes so please keep reading. You won't BELIEVE what it does next!" that the japs were too smart to pull. The only reason the expanse is even known is because it has a beta male protagonist surrounded by strong women, which is just too modern to pass up by publishers and stations.
>>219889553kek, no. You're very reductionist and contrarian.
>>219889394The books yes (even if I think they could've done more with the political differentiation), the show not as much. I get the limited budget and screentime arguments regarding the lack of mechs in the show (they're a lot more prominent in the books), for example. Compared to a lot of other sci-fi, it is leagues ahead when it comes to grounding it in some degree of realism without it becoming NASA-punk.
>>219889553>GundamThat's one of my criticisms of at least the show (they hint at things akin to ONeill cylinders existing in the books), as those would technically be easier to build than spinning up the likes of Ceres and especially Eros to provide gravity for those whom inhabit those places.
We need them to make more cat season recaps
>>219889553You sound rather bitter, anon
poor Shed...
>Still one of the only piece of scifi space opera that tries its best to obey real life physics when it comes to space travel, gravity and suchWe really didn't know how good we had itWhen I first saw Miller in Season 1 pouring some whiskey in a glass and the liquid kinda twirls around slowly in the glass to reflect Ceres low gravity was kind of mind blowingI don't know any other movie or show that did thisOf course it is not a 100% scientifically accurate, there are still scifi gobbledygook concepts and inaccuracies, but they actually tried making it as realistic as possible, space feels dangerous as it should be in that show
>show bobs and vagene, hoss>gets fired>disappear from the face of the earth forever irlhe's a jeet but i'm sad for him, this is why you never try to mingle with girls at your work place, anything can happen
>>219889711Yeah it's one of the few shows outside of the likes of For All Mankind or shows focusing on near-future possibilities that acknowledge that space is fuckin' dangerous to humans, even down to the tyranny of distance and water. My biggest problem with a lot of especially modern sci-fi is that it treats space as "just another place" and ignores how alien it is to people like us.
>>219889711I loved that stuff. They have people fall due to unexpected or high acceleration. Loose items fly around the cabins as hazards. The ships built like buildings. The flip and burns. All makes for great scifi viewing. I can forgive the engines simply because travel time is ridiculous even with them.
>>219889753The only time I remember him sounding remotely jeet-ish was in CQB when he slams the Tachi into the side of the bay where it's being held during the escape from the Donnager.
>>219887993I need a blue alien zombie Asian gf so bad fuck my life
I wonder how good the game will be.
>>219888993BELTALOWDA PUSSY
I enjoyed that they mixed up the future society in interesting ways that were plausible. They had part of Mars get colonized by Texans and Indians so their cultures mushed together. It was something Firefly was also trying to do with the Chinese languages.
>>219889871Every time I look in the mirror, I see her face...
>>219889523> is kino in everything he is in>almost always plays a villian, outside commie chernobylHow do i get main antagonist energy lads?
>>219889196Robert Jordan was not a good writer. Granted I haven’t touched WoT since high school but I had to quit after book 8 or so, they became such a slog
>puts hands in pockets>stands infront of you>squints his eyes retardedly smirking at you>looks like discount Jon Snow>makes the dumbest fucking retard decision>somehow everything goes well cos hes like Space Jesus or something and can do no wrongAmos and the Sandnigger were the only cool characters in the crew
>>219889948>Texans and IndiansSo...current Texas? Damn, predicting that is even more impressive given how long ago the first books were written.
>>219889443I love it when Holden keeps getting confused by his ghost having a hat since he never saw him with it when he was alive
>>219889974>drinks coffee
>About to fly to another station to visit an old friend>That friend gave you your hat>Leave the hat behind instead of returning it to your friend
>>219889948And some Aucklanders as well, much to my chagrin
>>219890058HOLDEN SMASH COFFEE!
Why did they stop the show without adapting the last 3 books? I know it became way shittier once Amazon got it, but at least they had the budget nowSurely, it didn't drop in ratings THAT much for Amazon to just are it?
>>219890122TBdesu Amazon seems like a nicer master than mother fucking syfy. I'm still bitter about what they did to the most kino Stargate show, which allowed The Expanse to be made to begin with.
>>219890122It didn't drop in ratings. There were enough hardcore fans for Amazon to pick it up and give it a shot. But not enough new fans materialized for Amazon to want to continue. So they wrapped it up and cut the final season short. It's an expensive show to make.
>have a cool setting>basically the closest thing to a Mass Effect TV show>have a plot that allows you to explore new universes, cool ancient ayy lmaos and their tech, etc cool shit>lets just make it all about boring politics, make the main "villain" a retarded space Che Guevara and shitty family dramaSeriously, what the F*CK were they thinking...?!
>>219888886I hope the detective doesn't come back, I don't like most of the main cast but his story was the least interesting with the most tired aesthetic.
>>219889196what is enjoyable to read is a matter of taste, particularly for fiction. I gave up on WoT somewhere in the second book, only cool thing about Jordan is his having two gfs simulatneously for a while.
>>219887993>lets make a show without a single likeable "main character"bold strategy, i guess
>>219889030If you think the books are bad trying watching the show kek
>>219891359They're good enough that you feel compelled to come to every thread to announce how much you hate them. That level of contrarian dedication is only reserved for good series.
>>219890423They made the right choice
>Gotta talk about that ride, kid. Next clue to the case!
i initially hated Thomas Jane's character in this, >le fedora wearing loser noir detective, but in the FUTURE feels very fucking contrived and overplayed at this point, but after season 2 I actually started missing Miller and him chewing up the scenery in his scenes, easily became my favorite character
If Drummer were book accurate, she'd be 7 feet tall
Bobbie is even more muscular in the books. She's on roids and samoan. She's a beast
>>219893737It was kinda sad how they were trying to show super tall and gangly belters in season 1 but just gave up eventually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwwKeo9jcyo
"Hard sci fi" like this is redd1t trash for manchildren. humans are never leaving the solar system, sorry spacefags
>>219895506It's a good thing that this show mostly takes place in the solar system I guess
>>219895637Proto meme and jump gate status?
>>219895431there just arent enough freak looking actors to cast and they dont have the budget to properly make them in CGI, it was a decision for the better
>>219895695Wormholes shit is a necessary evil if you want to have your characters explore new horizons beyond the solar systemAnd btw the ships in this show go really really fast so the scifi isn't even that hard to begin withA real life one way travel from Earth to Neptune for instance, at the speed of the ISS (28.000km/h) would last 18 fucking yearsMeanwhile in the show it's a matter of months, maybe a year at worst
>>219895844Its fantasy on the tier of dune, MCU or harry potter, "hard" sci fi is a cope incels tell themselves
>>219895841Yes and no. It fundamentally fucks up the entire Belter storyline. Now everyone who watches just views them as normal folk that are whiny rather than deformed lanky freaks who are almost alien compared to inners. And all adaptations run with the show depiction even when they can change it easily, like the games still have belters looking like regular people
>>219895966No, you're stupid and can't understand simple concepts.
Sweaty Bobbie best Bobbie.
>>219895841It's not that hard to just use tall shoes and camera angles
>>219896111Go play with magic space wizard teleportation.
>>219895966in your opinion which book/show does hard space sci fi the best?
>>219896293A history of the Apollo program
>>219895844The only thing that’s “fantasy” is the super efficient fusion drives they have that allow constant acceleration. That’s how most of the ships have gravity. Accelerating at 1g for 24 hours would have you going 121 times faster than the ISS.
>>219896384See? You don't understand what hard scifi means.
>>219896384where is the fi part?
FTL is not real incels
>>219896433The moon isn’t real
>>219896510Good thing that this show doesn't have any FTL tech
>>219889974The MC is rarely the most interesting person in the cast in any show
>>219896821The artificial wormholes bruh
>>219896830but most shows dont have an absolute charisma vacuum like Holden
>>219896186>bossy busty martian native wife never ever
>>219896838A wormhole is a shortcut through space, because FTL is physically impossible
STAY AWAY FROM THE AQUA
>>219896890>Wanna come with?>with You? Or WITH you?>whichever.Amos definitely pounded that.
>>219897129Isn't this nigga gay?
>>219896920I bet you think Guild navigators are "hard sci fi"Fuck this MCU flying magic wizard shit. Grow up
>>219897163Wormholes are theoretically possible, we just don't know where or how to find them and much less create themThe wormhole itself though closes faster than the speed of light so you can never traverse it. Later attempts at making a wormhole traversable, require negative mass to keep it open.
>>219897222You never leaving this planet bro lol
>>219897233Everyone with at least 2 working brain cells knows that "casual" space travel isn't happening in our life time, and probably still won't be an actual thing by the end of this century.Your point is?
>>219897146No, he's more bi but mostly hetero.
The expanse is on the same level of slop as "avengers" or bat man
>>219897715
>>219896088only one good looking was the one they tortured on earth in first seasons?
>>219897292if we got our shit together we could colonize the moon - it has many potential uses
>>219897949Yes the main one being being able to launch spacecrafts easily because low gravity and no atmosphere, which means more fuel to get farther and farther quicker
>>219897987yeahand who knows how much materials there are there but honestly why are we here if not to explore and find answers and move forward
>>219898115Only white men have this primal drive for adventure, exploration, conquest and discoveryIt is known
>>219888727>>219887993Amazon MGM Studios ordered Alcon Entertainment (makers of The Expanse tv series) to make a different sci-fi show for them, based on James S. A. Corey's (authors of The Expanse books & tv show & execs at Alcon) NEW sci-fi trilogy called The Captive's War, absolutely unrelated to The Expanse btw.It's kind of a clusterfuck, but at least Amazon still appears to be on good terms with Alcon.IF the 2027 game does well (why wouldn't it, it's made by Owlcat, their RPGs are pretty popular, but tbf they usually make top down turn-based combat RPGs, not third person shooters) and IF The Captive's War pulls relatively good ratings, I'm 100% sure Alcon will try to negotiate for the last 3 books to be adapted. And I'm 100% the old cast would be up for it.
>>219887993One episode with nothing but Naomi wandering around the ship moaing and complaining.
>>219898255this, but she is moaning because of my big white cock
>>219889706The lore behind Shed being killed there is kinda stupid. The whole story of the books is based on a TTRPG session the authors had with their friends, and the player playing "Shed" at the table had to quit, so they killed off the character. If that friend hadn't quit we could've had Shedkino for many seasons
>Mamisarala's husband certainly got switched from an old grandpa Jeet to a 20 years younger bald Jew without anyone even cometing on thatI presume it was issue with recasting the actor obviously, but it felt so weird, i watched like 5 episodes of that season before realizing that was supposed to be the husband
>>219898511yeah that was an L, could've emphasized more that he was switched
HIS LUNGS ARE WEAKHIS BONES ARE FRAGILEHE'S AN OPA TERRORISTWOOOAH BUDDY
>>219898511>to a 20 years youngerLearn English, you weird nignog!
>>219899243shant, i shit on your language
>>219896838They in-and-of-themselves don't violate causality. Outside of the Orion's Arm Universe Project, The Expanse does it relatively realistically where the Ringbuilders had to send the wormhole infrastructure to wherever they wanted one built the slow way instead of some shit out of the MCU.
>>219900008Yup, everything is plausible and based off current understand of physics and what could be possible. It made it far more interesting to me than just the usual star trek tech that doesn't even pretend to match reality.
>>219900008>violate causalityare you that fucking retard who thinks light is time?
>>219900628are you that fucking retard that thinks they know physics based on feeling vibes?
>>219900214Honestly the 'harder' sci-fi aspects I find raise more questions than the likes of the protomolecule or the slowzone, because while implausible, Clarke's 3rd law can apply to them and their function. The PDCs and the lack of ONeill cylinders on the other hand...Like the fight between the Roci and the Pella is really cool to watch, but it leaves me wondering if PDC ammunition is gyrojet-type, since the Pella would be at a distinct disadvantage to the Roci as the latter's bullets can not only effortlessly dispose of torpedoes, but also significantly harm the Pella itself as all the ships are under acceleration.
>>219900742You could've just said yes.
>>219889711The pouring isn't curved because of low gravity. It is because of the Coriolis effect which comes from the spin gravity generated on ceres. If I recall correctly people are also standing on the ceiling and their heads are towards the core relative to the surface of the planet.
>>219887993looks like that kid who did the based dance for stacey who was later bit by a shark
>>219901065Yes, and Miller talks about the Coriolis being worse or better depending on the levels or how far you are from center of the station. Plus the dying patches of grass because of thieves stealing water. I love that stuff in Expanse. It's so trivial but it's stuff real people would experience daily. Or Prax seeing people eat the plants which aren't nutritious and only for the air supply, so they're actually screwing themselves over
I'm like 300 pages into the first book and there's no way I'll ever finish the series. Hell, I don't think I'll push into book 2. I like it but it's just too damn long. Next step is way station or lathe of heaven
>>219889968>He's balding on purpose!Kek
>>219901783books are kinda ass, those two just arent good writers
i hate this faggots squinty fucking not-Jon Snow face SO FUCKING MUCH
>>219888154WE GONNA RISE UP
>>219890122to be fair the laconia plot is the worst part of the story
>>219902587Hearsay!
>>219902587That's not true at all. It's finally payoff the audience has been waiting for throughout all those books. Finally getting to see the real alien tech in action, see humans merge their own tech withbit, learn more about the builders and the goths. It's fantastic scifi.
>>219901783Get it on audiobook and listen at 2x then. It's worthwhile. They're not too long but you guys have very little attention span these days
>>219902587True.Laconia was uninteresting, incompetent, and ruined the mystique of the alien technology.Their empire only lasted like 4-5 years. It's pathetic.
>>219902978That was Duarte's dumbass fault. It would have last centuries otherwise. And led to the Romans taking over Humanity in a hivemind forever after . That was very interesting.
>>219903061Topkek
>guy is a fag>name him AnusBRAVO NOLAN, BRAVO
>me and my belter gf
>>219903345WTF I love admiral Nguyen now!?
how can a single man be this KINO?
>>219887993<3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4UYrSi6lzU
>>219903465By pulling a Peter Dinklage in early GoT and putting in a performance that outshines the character. See also Alan Rickman in 'Arry Pot er.
>>219890122Amazon is retarded and my guess is they wanted every available dollar to be pumped into their fucking disastrous RANGZ OF POWAAA MMM LAWDY DEM RANGZ
>>219903465>die in darknessfuck that cunt
>>219903465
>>219903649<3
why it started looking so much SHITTIER once amazon got it ? like, you obviously can see that season 4 and onwards have bigger budget and are shot "better", but it somehow feels worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9KeG2j8454Eros! The rock talking Papa, it sings!
>>219903549Rise up! Do it for Miller!
>>219903465>Based character fucking dies in a couple of episodes.They could had made a mini series with this guy catching pirates
>>219904001They were already going off script with just the amount they showed of him. Ashord was only in the third book when they opened the ring. Him trying to catch Marco was Show-only.
I want to spin her drum until I expanse
>>219904246Only if you can beat her at handball
>>219904502wtf thats just squash with no rackets
>>219904502do you have any idea what handball is, retardbro?
>>219904578it's hand pelota. a really good way to fuck up your hand which is why they started using rackets or those jai alai scoops.
>>219904632Do you have any idea how much I want Drummer to handle my balls?
>>219903782The space scenes got way better and the space battles were awesome. The open air planet scenes got way worse. It seemed like they had trouble picking good locations to shoot which looked scifi, but I don't know the reason.
>>219904502belter sweat
>>219900812>if PDC ammunition is gyrojet-typeThey don't even mentioned it being like that in the books and do consider the tungsten rounds floating at high velocity forever in space possibly hitting something in the future. Honestly, Roci should have gotten its ass kicked by tbe Pella. It's way larger and way better weapons. But the Roci has thick plot armor so the belter crew was inexperienced and terrible fighters plus the Roci railgun is way overpowered so it can take out larger ships in one hit. The Martians could have conquered the solar system with a fleet of Rocinantes.
Amos and Peaches spin off series please
>>219905958Seeing Holden's face when Amos brings Peaches onboard to be the new apprentice was so great
>>219889753>oh hoh hey, hey there hoss!
>>219889753hes not a jeet
>>219889974I really hated this guy as Holden. He always comes across as awkward and autistic whereas Holden in the books is a total normie.
>>219889202What books would you say are better?
>>219889639Is this AI? Thats a great idea
>>219907097No, it's what the Sy-Fi Channel made to recap season 1 before season 2 aired.
>>219889972You forgot he wasn't the villain in The Terror either.
>>219895431>but just gave up eventuallyEventually? They gave up on it half way through season 1
>>219889394Read more scifi bro, jfc
>>219889553I watched gun damn recently and was caught off guard by the o Neil cylinder in itI know get why toughSF is so obsessed with itOkay not really as you’d think they’d be too autistic to be fine with mechsBut whatever
>>219889394Hyperion Cantos?Every other sci-fi TTRPG has a “spacer” subrate of some sortSpacer’s Guilds in sci-fi as a trope like in Dune where they’re way more mutated
>>219910690I’m not looking forward to what an adaptation of blindsight would be like
For me, it's the reporter
HOW CAN SHE SPIN??!?
>>219903649>>219903465The rewrites of the late S3 plot made him much better than his book version.>running out of blood supplies>"fucking finally something we can solve">everybody on second shift report to donate blood to help the wounded>proceeds to head off and contribute himself, everybody is in this shit together and has no time for fucking around with all the stupid Belter pride these children are spoutingKino actor and acting.
>>219911252Remember Earth must come first.
>>219906495he is
>>219902587based. laconia sucks and the ending is retarded
>>219911527I hated how Laconia destroyed any potential for more interesting conflicts with the colonies
>>219911658yeah they introduce great plot foundations with the ring gates and people striking out to stake claims like it's the gold rush then that's all immediately swept to the side to focus on laconia shit
>>219889972If you want to see him in something very different, in 'B. Monkey' he's a straight laced elementary school teacher that falls in love with a career criminal played by Asia Argento. He nails the role.
>>219911745>No we must have BBEG!I think that mindset is part of it. It worked when it worked… but then it got out of control with the space hitlers.
>>219890193Counterpoint: Amazon shovels money into Rings of Power like coal into a boiler in Siberia.
>>219888498Nah fuck you, the show has some of the best space battles in history while the books are just another diamond dozen sci-fi series
>>219889196>The last good writer was Robert JordanMaximally bloated writer
>>219889973It's much easier to clear the slog when you don't have to wait for years between each book.
>>219911880Nobody should be wasting time on 12,000 pages of mediocre fantasy
>>219911936I barely have the attention span for a 200 page bookI don't even know how I got through two books of the Hyperion Cantos
>>219911804And yet Clarkson's Farm is more popular
>>219903465Literally the only Belter who knew what nation building looked like.
>>219902587Very true
For me, it's the Agatha King
>>219889974Naomi and Holden were completely miscast. Amos technically too but Chatham did good work and put his own spin on the character that worked.
>>219911835The awesome book space battles are in your head. Oh wait, you're one of those "can't envision the apple in your mind" types huh? Yikes.
>>219911252Monica was lovely
>>219911658>>219911745There are plenty of conflicts with them during the 30 year time jump though. They're just boring and mundane. Shit like people not wanting to obey the rules of the transport union and having to face consequences like their ring being blockaded which could kill the colony. Otherwise is just calms down for a while and people just set to building new worlds which is fine and realistic after all that bloodshed
>>219889972In Mad Men he played a whining chud who kills himself because he couldn't pay alimony or something
>>219902848everything that made the expanse interesting like 3 different factions of earth mars and the belt is reduced to the problems of the dueterte family and james holden.its just like how starwars stopped being a universe and is simply the problems of the skywalkers/palpatines.
Why did we get a brief episode of Ashford fucking Carmella Soprano and then it just cuts to him being a porn producer in L.A? Took me right out of the season.
>>219914297She 's a bluff bow, lovely lines. She's a fine spaceship.
>>219887993They did the noir detective pretty well. Everyone being a terrorist was also fun but then its just a mom yelling at her son which got boring.
>>219911745>>219914481With a strong setting like the Ring Gate Gold Rush, they wouldn't even necessarily have to focus on the Roci crew. They could make infinite 1 season "specials" aka. spin-offs with some Mommasarala/Spindadrum cameos sprinkled in. Easy money.
>>219915394That's what the novellas were for. The books did stuff like that. Naomi's son even goes off to live on one of those colonies under a fake name. But the show barely had a budget for the regular seasons without being canceled
>>219914536Nope. There's still the ring space, all the colonies and Earth trying to haphazardly coordinate to fight Laconia. But Laconia is so overpowered that it's of course going to dominate. Still very interesting seeing them try to take over and establish a government over everyone. And still investigate the new ring systems and ancient builder artifacts. Plus dealing with the Goth aliens that Duarte mistakenly thinks he can also dominate. It's great and a natural evolution and raising of stakes. You can't just have a story always be the same shit forever.
>>219911466hes literally not
>>219916928He is though
>>219917950hes a sandnigger
>>219914297We need an Expanse strategy game where we can put fleets of ships against each other in long rangr bvr missile battles
So, I just recently got into the show, never bothered with anything esle form the universe, book and whatnot, but i just saw theres a game coming out? Is that shit going to be based on those books that havent been adapted by the show, or jus completely new story? I have 2 episodes left from season 6 and im kinda hyped for the game
>>219914536That Andor was able to exist I think you could spin off expanse stuff in the 30 year period between the inaros crisis and duerte's rise to power just fine
>>219919604New story from what I've seen
>>219919604>>219920373It's a new story set before the show started. So it's more the "normal" time before the found the alien goop. Just flying around the system and exploring the various factions with missions. Looks cool
finished book 5 the other day, it was okayfor ranking i would say 1 > 2 > 5 > power gap > 4 > 3
>>219920635Thats sounds pretty lame for an rpg game?I was hoping its gonna be a new mass effect, actually capitalizing on the cool ancient alien tech and new worlds and creatures to explore that the show didn't capitalize much on, it'd be perfect for a game...
>>219921014The majority of players would be brand new to the series and have no idea what it's about, so aliens would spoil everything. Trying to set it after the show is even worse spoilage since you haven't even read the books and don't know what happens. There is plenty of fun stories to tell without aliens. The alien tech has always evem been just a catalyst for fighting and tension between the human factions. If the game does well, there can always be sequels and making the last three seasons of the tv show.
>>219888498the show is great.as long as the indian cunt, the samoan cunt, the black cunt, and the main character aren't on the screen
>>219889030you really wanna use the words "main character" when defending this show?
>>219920740I wish Cameron would make an Expanse movie. With his Avatar motion capture tech he could size up the Belters to be enormous and lanky
>>219895431Like most modern shows the Expanse's production has a massive drop in quality after the first season. The good shows stay good for several more seasons, the bad ones pivot to shitty melodrama a la Naomi
>>219902257Holden and Naomi are fucking godawful.
>>219889639that cat would've played a much better Holden
>>219889711>cool gimmicks, with bad plot and horrible characterssad
>>219922168That's not true. The show increases in quality every season. The cgi gets better, battles get better, actors find their footing with the characters. The story is already written and necessarily changes each season so that's just you being upset that it wasn't what you had in your head
>>219922100who the fuck hates alex or bobbi?
>>219923809I liked Bobbie in the final books. Her arc on Mars as it's falling apart was kinda lame. But it was necessary to show all the crime and despair as everyone was leaving the planet and giving up on Mars
>>219922168False, the show actually peaked several times during later seasons, the only low point was the way too heavy focus on Naomi's perspective during the last story arc. Get rocked with your faggot opinion.
i hate belters and batarians so fucking much, its unreal...
>>219925594That kid actually had an interesting arc. I never really paid that much attention to what happened to him on the first watch through but noticed it more the next time around
>>219927150what arc? becoming a fucking retard ?
>>219928230 Keting ere pashang to ta showxa fo mi, to sabaka mali? Mi wanya to fo sasa mi finyish ere fosh pelésh ere imbobo xunyam mi ere da OPA, unte mi ta go fo walowda raids ere UN, unte mi decho seri xanya mang fosho. Mi sasa dewe fo du xite lik wa gorilla unte mi da bosmang sniper ere da OPA. To nating fo mi amash wang mo ting fo du xite. Mi gonya leta-go to da pashang kuku wit precision lik tumang vedi natim, pochuye da wowt mi showxa. To pensa to kang showxa dedawang fo mi ere da network? Pensa wamotim, pashangwala. Xitim, mi showxa fo secret spy network mi unte im ando trace IP to, deradzhang to mowsh kom sif gútegow fo da storm, koyo. Da storm deting decho da ting to du nem livit to. To pashang det, maliwala. Mi kang bi kowpelesh, kowltim, unte mi kang decho to ere seng xanya we, unte dedawang bera wit xante mi. Mi oso tenye kowl da OPA tungeting, unte mi gonya du im kowl da we fo decho to, to kakamali. Sili bera to ta kang sasa deting unholy retribution wowt semówt mali ta gonya leta-kom ere to, mebi to ta na showxa. Amash to na ta kang, to na ta du im, unte xitim to mowsh gif peye fo im, to nakangepensa pashangwala. Mi gonya kaka fury kowl ere to unte im gonya decho to. To pashang det, maliwala!
>>219928289see >>219926096
I deleted s4 after the amazon logo disappeared and the blair witch resident evil zoom in spin around zoom out camera dogshit started. Is it worth pushing through? Probably wont bother at all with s5 or 6
>>219928673No, move on. You don't deserve any good shows.
>>219928748Sorry jeff, when 50 things are flashing in my face every second i have a tendency to look away
>Belters are just lanky people who talk like Africans
>>219928673there are some good parts
>>219928289What’s happening here? Can you show me, or is it bad news? I want to finish it before the real problems start, before I go to the OPA and the UN raids. I will stay serious and focused. I can act like a gorilla, but I’m the sniper boss for the OPA. There’s nothing for me to do but keep moving. I’ll use precise shots like a sniper and aim at the enemy, showing them what's up. Do you think this is all part of a bigger plan for me, related to the network? Think about it, buddy.Now, I’m tracking the secret spy network, and I can trace their IP to where they’re operating—preparing for an attack in the storm. The storm will disrupt their communications. When I catch them, they won’t know what hit them. I can be calm, cold, and focused, and I’ll be able to make a precise strike. If I can, I’ll let the storm take care of them, so I can show them what happens when they mess with the OPA.This mission is part of a greater revenge. But I have to focus, do my job, and not give away the game. I’ll deal with the fury later, once I’ve tracked them down.
are there any latinas in the expanse?
>>219929554only thiccc maoris
>>219929554Miller's female partner in season one but he eventually leaves the station and her behind
>>219902257Holden is perfectly cast, acted, and written because he's insufferable in the books too.
>>219889706This guy was in Road Trip.KINO.
>>219930808>belters murder a bunch of innocent people on New Terra>Holden sides with them anywaythat book sucked
>>219928230Like most Belters, he was always a retard. The embodiment of their unwashed masses. He's there to remind us that Naomi, Drummer, Ashford, etc. are all exceptional and that we should hate and fear the belters because they truly are scum.
>>219932222They truly are the worst. We should genocide them right now.
>>219932222>>219932283>they say unironically not seeing how they sound exactly like belters complaining about inners and championing killing all Earthers
>>219932518Except belters objectively are the worst. Not all calls to violence are equal.
Diogo was cool and a tragic story. You losers have no empathy. You just see a young man and pre-judge him saying he was bound to end up terribly so you should always kill him. Then you're confused why they think the same about you. Diogo was simply trying to get by in a shitty situation with lots of bad influences. Miller was a good influence on him and set him on a good path. Then Martians came along and as usual treat belters like shit. They fucked up Diogo's uncle causing him to die. Now Diogo has nothing except to join the OPA. And of course they're becoming more radicalized daily because of how they're treated by Inners. He's following orders of people he trusts and thinks he's doing what's right just like everyone else is. The kid gets killed and we're supposed to cheer, but he's following Ashford's orders (who we like) even though Ashford is acting like a complete moron at the time. So yes, it's an interesting arc. The kid was just trying to find his place in an unforgiving universe, and if a few things had gone differently would have still been best buddies with the Roci crew instead of dying. There, now you've been spoon fed.
>>219932688i dont care about space palestinians, yes
>>219932688Yeah retarded shitskins are retarded shitskins and I truly do not give the slightest fuck what happens to them.
>>219932856You're worse than he ever was and won't achieve even half as much. It's no wonder you smell of shit at all times.
>>219932688It's the other way around, you start with sympathy for Diogo. Then he's a retarded asshole, then you hate all belters.Every time he is wronged he decides to be worse than the people who wronged him. The only times he does anything half decent is when someone else makes the decision for him. He truly is scum, no matter how affable he seems when you catch him on a good day.
>>219932939He doesn't exist.
>>219933298you dont exist
WHEN
>>219933689Yes here I am.
>>219933939on the road again
