Why didn’t Obi-Wan actually explore that financial transaction more thoroughly? Sifo Dyas paid for it? Using what money? What bank account?

>>219911694
It was all from tax revenue deposited directly into their account.

Did the Kaminoan's have a bonus situation for delivering the clones on time?

Why did the entirety of the senate just give the chancellor complete power? Was Palpatine telling the truth when he said
>I am the senate
Are the senate his hivemind?

>>219911645
As you know, it's said that Sifo-Dyas was part of the Jedi Council when he was alive, so that excludes Qui-Gon.

>>219911830

How the fuck am I supposed to know

I thought it was a corruption of Sidious

>>219911734
His tax policy was ironclad perfection.

>>219912180
nah, pretty sure its whoever was the apprentice before Dooku

>>219911734
The official reasoning is that Palpatine had hitler powers because the devastating war is so scary that it pressured the senate into ceding him more and more control. It seems reasonable but the only problem (and why it always gets brought up) is that this shit is not actually shown by any of the movies. There are two battle scenes and the clones effortlessly dismantle the separatists in both of them
You're just told he's all powerful space hitler because they made Jar Jar a senator for no reason and then the entire rest of the war is told by supplementary cartoons

>>219911645
>sifo is just cantonese for master
>master master dyas

>>219911694
Cool it with the antisemetic remarks

>>219912045
you posted the image in the OP, thus you had to go out of your way to skip the dialogue that establishes that

>>219911694
The Jedi are laughably rich but keep their actual members poor. Kenobi probably doesn`t even fathom the scale of this corruption

>>219911645
I assumed it was a very lazy alias for Sidious

>>219911694
well, he was too caught up with following the bounty hunter then getting captured and finding out dooku was a baddie

>>219911734
Jar Jar mind tricked them
Weak minds have the ability to manipulate strong minds with the force and vice versa

>>219911645
It was Sidious. Count Dooku was originally supposed to be a good guy working from the outside to save the Republic but Lucas changed his mind for Episode 3 and just killed him off at the start.

>>219913476
would have been more interesting

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Was pic related banging Sidious? Is that why she told Obi Wan it didn't exist?

>>219913521
Yes but then Lucas realized he wasted Episode 1 as a filler, too much of Episode 2 went into this weird 50's detective noir shit and for Episode 3, he needed all the shit to go down and it was too much for Dooku to fit in there. Episode 3 glosses over a lot of details the previous movie established.

>>219911645
>I'll just check who die-ass (now dead) was friends with.
ah, it lists here "darth evilus, chancellor corruptipine, grim worm tongue the wicked, and lord malevolentus" - this can't be right, those are all trusted jedis. I shall speak to them at once and reveal the full extent of all I know so they can cover their tracks.

>>219911645
God AOTC has such a fucking shitty plot. It's just as bad as TLJ or Rise.

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>>219913476
>Count Dooku was originally supposed to be a good guy working from the outside to save the Republic
Did you miss the ending of Attack of the Clones? You know, the one where we learn Dooku is actually Tyranus, ergo he was behind the clone army and hired Jango Fett to be the template, and was an apprentice of Darth Sidious, who controlled the Republic, and in the end they literally scheme together at the fucking capital? Holy retardation. He was never "supposed to be" or ever was a "good guy". How do you faggots even function in daily life.

>>219913566
He literally tells Obi-Wan that there is a sith in the senate that is playing them. Why would he even do that? I think Dooku was playing Qui-Gon's game here. Draw out the evil in the Republic and kill it for good.

>>219911645
> Would you like to buy some drugs, Larry?

>watch the film as kid- "Sifo-Dyas" is clearly someone was impersonating him
>2026 fact check- Sifo-Dyas did ordered the clones, it is even on the wookipedia

I really hate the fans sometimes

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>>219913675
>He literally tells Obi-Wan that there is a sith in the senate that is playing them. Why would he even do that?
He literally doesn't tell him shit. He is vague enough to not actually reveal anything that would help. He's trying to manipulate Obi-Wan and turn him to the Dark Side. You know, the same thing Vader did with Luke in Empire Strikes Back. Literally the exact same lines of dialogue used. Dooku is evil. He is literally a fucking Sith Lord and Sidious' apprentice and he orchestrated the war and corruption in the Republic. Sith always try to recruit someone to overthrow their master and take power for themselves. Vader tried it with Luke, Tyranus tried it with Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was smart enough not to fall for the manipulation and seduction. You are weak minded enough that you were tricked by the evil Count Dracula Tyranus, who told you just a bit of vague truth without actually revealing anything. Lucas didn't change shit. Most of the people who watch Star Wars just happen to be terminally retarded. Are you really confused by the movies for 12 year olds? That's crazy.

>>219913780
What the fuck are you even talking about? Can't understand what you're saying with that broken English, Rajeesh. So many browns on 4chan these days.

>>219913675
>Why would he even do that?
to help convert obi-wan. but he was wise enough to not reveal the whole truth

I thought Sifo Dyas was Doku

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>>219911830
>>219912045

>>219913835
Calm down George it's just a movie

>>219913835
>seething retard writes a wall of text
this anon >>219913675 is right.
it's also in the notes, and dooku was supposed to be a good guy, a red herring.
anakin was supposed to kill him but that was part of him turning to the dark side, because dooku was the jedi's last hope of uncovering the plot

>>219913891
the amount of jeets on the internet now is depraved, and they all act like fucking clones, ironicly enough.
in online chats/games they appear and it's "any girls here please I marry you" fucking stereotype rancid dirtballs.
who opened the gate to let these things in

>>219913963
it's such a lazy image, they've just used a copy paste function which sets things out in a grid.
they didn't even bother to put them in a formation.

>>219911645
Originally it was meant to just be Sidious. Then it was implied to be Dooku. Then they made it so it was an actual Jedi who they got manipulated by Dooku. Then they made it a Jedi who had a vision of the future need for an army the. Sidious found out and used it for his own ends. So this implies that Sidious big plan to manipulate the Republic hinged on the fly moments like finding out some Jedi had commissioned an army.

>>219911694
The conspiracy angle was just fucking weird and not thought through. And even the added context of the Clone Wars cartoon doesn't improve it.

>>219912308
They really shied away from showing actual destruction and consequences for the war.

>>219913528
Count Dooku deleted the records after he became Sidious' apprentice

>>219914025
Except you're wrong. Lucas made the Clone Wars. Dooku is a moustache twirling villain in that show, constantly trying to get one over Palpatine in a, apprentice attacking master way. Dooku is the classic with repetition of, guy wants to do good but then becomes a double crossing cunt.

Lucas is the problem because Dooku as a character could have had some depth and been a good guy who fucked up but then Lucas makes it clear he's also just a bad guy.

>>219913533
it's a pity. could have been so much more but came off too two dimensionally and linear.
the original films had a more unpredictable and chaotic feel to them which made it feel more like an adventure.
the prequels just seemed like they were going A to B all the time and nothing was affecting the standard path.

>>219914124
like anon said, he was supposed to have been a grey/good guy, but was then simplified.
everything after that just followed the formula

>>219914025
What notes, you fucking subhuman brown faggot? Show me the notes. The movie literally tells you that he is the evil mastermind behind the clone army, that he works with Sidious, that they planned for the war to happen. He was a fucking Sith Lord. He WAS the plot that the Jedi tried to uncover. He WAS the conspiracy. Fucking subhuman.

>>219914139
>>219914159
It's a pity you hadn't been aborted.

>>219914159
Anon, you're just wrong here. Dooku trying to manipulate Obi Wan isn't Dooku being a good guy, it's Dooku wanting allies to take out Palpatine for his own overall gain. He's still in league with Palpatine and goes along with the plan, but eventually wanted to do away with him. This "supposed to" is meaningless, you're confusing part of his backstory with overall intent.

Dooku in the EU is somewhat presented as a principled guy, who like his apprentice Qui Gon, questioned the Jedi. Only he left them and eventually fell. But once you fall, in Lucas vision, you pretty much become the same. Then he got trapped in the same Sith pattern, kill your master, gain power etc. Vader does similar things by asking Luke to join him to beat the Emperor in ESB and Lucas liked copying the OT story beats.

You're acting like some major concept change happened. It didn't. You have no proof for it because you've confused some concepts with the overall direction. Blame Lucas if you want something to blame. But you're still wrong.

>Sifo-Dyas
They shouldn't have made the whole "Sifo-Dyas did order the clones" canon

It is nonsensical given the context of Ep 2. It made the Jedi incompetent rather then just blind to the cloud of conspiracy around them and being victim of the urgency of the war.

>>219914159
Dooku was always meant to be a fallen Jedi, thus he was not a good guy anymore. There's no grey nonsense.

>There are "people" who actually care about the plot of the prequels
Lol

>>219913533
Just do Episode 3 part I and II then. Was he stupid?

>>219914283
He wasn't jewish enough to do that.

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>the movie literally shows you the Jedi collectively knowing about, recognizing and acknowledging the Jedi Master Syfo-Dyas that existed and was killed 10 years ago
>the movie literally shows you Dooku and Palpatine working together, having planned the war together and controlling both sides
>the movie literally tells you Dooku is Darth Tyranus and he was the one who hired Jango Fett

>UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHM SYFO DYAS WAS ACTUALLY SIDIOUS UHHHHHHHH DOOKU WAS SECRETLY A GOOD GUY THAT TRIED TO EXPOSE EVIL GUYS! THIS IS THE REAL PLOT, THIS IS HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BEFORE LUCAS RETCONNED IT IN REVENGE OF THE SITH! MY HEADCANON IS HOW IT *REALLY* WENT DOWN!
Insane how many literal retards and browns there are on this board.

>>219914087
>finding out some Jedi had commissioned an army.
Imagine being so rich you can just commission an army down to the first genetic material used for cloning, to equipment, to vehicles, etc on a galactic scale. I wonder who Siphon Deadass was that he had the bank account worthy of multiple star systems. CIS were fucking jobbers who needed the combined might of several cartoon characters to match one cheeky jedi who got rich on MLMs, droids hate him. He might as well have paid out bribes to cover the taxation of trade routes just to nip this conflict in the bud.

>>219914299
/thread

>>219914299
>>UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHM SYFO DYAS WAS ACTUALLY SIDIOUS
So:
>Lucas originally intended Syfo Dyas to just be Sidious, hence the similar names.
>Then he thought it best if it was Dooku and connected to that.
>Then Lucas created the Clone Wars which made it clear that Syfo Dyas was a real Jedi manipulated by Dooku/Sidious.
Lucas originally wanted one thing, switched to something else then retconned that. It's not about headcanon, if is about Lucas changing his mind three times. Blame Lucas.

>>219914349
How many times an idea is developed and changed before it's realized in the movie is irrelevant. What's in the movie is what matters and nothing changed in that regard. The Sith were behind the clones, and wether the dead Jedi was working for them or not is irrelevant. It's just a red herring for the Jedi.

>>219914349
In ATTACK OF THE CLONES movie they recognize Sifo-Dyas as a real Jedi that they'd known about, that existed and Obi-Wan says he was killed 10 years ago when he called the Jedi Council after talking to the Kaminoans and Jango Fett. I blame you for being fucking retarded and not paying attention. Just from the movies it is clear that two REAL people were involved in the creation of the clone army: Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas and Tyranus. Lucas didn't change shit. You are fucking braindead.

>>219914299
It’s a better more self contained story though, filonifag

>>219914412
>Lucas didn't change shit
He actually did. Originally AOTC Sifo Dyas was just full on manipulated by Dooku/Sidious. Then it was made so Sifo Dyas created the Clone Army with noble intentions and it was later co-opted. This change happened between the movies and Clone Wars/EU. So there was a change.

Much like how they originally intended it to be conditioning for why the Clones did Order 66 but later changed it to biochips. the change did happen. That's a fact.

>>219914390
There was changes during development and changes after AOTC.

>>219914236
but I'm your current reason for living. think about it

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>The Kaminoians are still producing a Clone Army despite having no contact with their buyer in over a decade.
>It is revealed that a Jedi Master Sifo-Dias is responsible for commissioning the Clone army on behalf of the republic. A character the Jedi Council confirm existed and is not an alias. Where he acquired the funds to purchase this army is never explained.
>When questioned by Obi-wan Jango reveals he was hired by someone named Tyrannus. Obi-wan doesn't question the Kaminoians about this and for some reason the Kaminoians don't seem to know who this person is either.
>The Kaminoians show no concern for the man their clones are based on trying to kill a Jedi, the order they believe responsible for commissioning the Clones in the first place.
>The Senate doesn't question how an army was just randomly commissioned for them without their oversight and is revealed to them at the very moment they're deciding to vote on the creation of an Army.
>The Jedi have no qualms with commanding literal slaves as soldiers
>The Jedi aren't suspicious of the fact that the clone army they are leading are cloned from a bounty hunter who attempted to kill Amidala and is alligned with the Seperatists.
>The jedi still lead clone troopers despite knowing the planet they were manufactured on was removed from their archives around the time Sifo-Dias commissioned them then mysteriously died. This timeframe also lines up with when Dooku left the Jedi order.

>>219914490
>Much like how they originally intended it to be conditioning for why the Clones did Order 66 but later changed it to biochips
That shit was retarded too.

>>219914277
>>219914249
lucas recently expressed interest in remaking 3 the way he originally meant to, which means dooku being the key to saving them all.
he said he'd do it all with computers and possibly with ai as it is such a big time saver.

I don't know how you guys can have serious discussions whilst simultaneously using the word Dooku but it's made my night so thanks.

>old man character always takes stinky shits blowing up the jedi bathroom
>name him Count Dookie

>>219912330
Star wars predates China, and even if it didn't, it would take millions of years for the information to make it's way from our galaxy to theirs.

>>219914490
>He actually did.
He actually didn't.
>Originally AOTC Sifo Dyas was just full on manipulated by Dooku/Sidious. Then it was made so Sifo Dyas created the Clone Army with noble intentions and it was later co-opted.
No, AOTC didn't state anything like that. We know that Sifo-Dyas was killed roughly 10 years prior. We also know that Jango Fett was hired by Tyranus, and he doesn't know who Sifo-Dyas is. Which implies that Sifo-Dyas placed the initial order on the army, didn't find a host yet, he then was killed, and Tyranus took over.
>Much like how they originally intended it to be conditioning for why the Clones did Order 66 but later changed it to biochips. the change did happen. That's a fact.
Nope. The original intention in the movie for why the clones did Order 66 was genetic modifications that made them totally obedient without question. Lama Su says this in Attack of the Clones. Their genetic structure was modified. The word "conditioning" was not uttered even once in the films. Biochips are genetic modifications that make them totally obedient, lol.

>>219911645
i never thought about it because it was stupid

>>219914299
>the one dimensional mind of the copeite
him hiring Jango was only in 3, when the retcon had already happened. in 2 he was still the good guy trying to prevent the biggest threat to the jedi from happening.
in the original script, Jango wasn't supposed to be the clone basis, it was supposed to be an army of twileks, and all nude

>>219914503
It was uh... the Force™ guiding them or something. So there.

>>219914503
>Nute Gunray wants Padme dead for revenge.
>Palpatine/Dooku are involved.
>They use Jango Fett hiring Zam Wessell using a droid using bugs.
>Padme was the main opposition for blocking the creation of a Republic Army that Palpatine wanted through the Senate.
>Padme wanted diplomacy with the CIS event though members of the CIS wanted her dead, but she didn't want war.
>Kill bugs, follow droid, find Zam, track dart which killed Zam, find Kamino, use army because situation required it.
>But what if Padme died? Main opposition is gone, ignoring a martyrdom issue and saying this would push them to vote for an army..
>Would Palpatine have just been like, oh we got a random call from this random planet and they have an army for us lol.
How was this supposed to play out.

>>219914520
sith lord pradjeet dooku sir very noble sir, he doing the needful to save the republicans, banning of all toilets sir

>>219914512
>lucas recently expressed interest in remaking 3 the way he originally meant t
You have no source. Where is it? And hell, even if you did post one, you know Lucas changed his mind all the time and concepts changed all the time too. You're just talking shit.

>>219914490
it's often how most conspired actions occur in the real world, most on the project have no idea of it's true intent and are either fed outright lies or told nothing.
it's fairly easily to manipulate people into working hard if you tell them there's a noble outcome.

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>>219914503
The Dark Side clouds everything. Impossible to see. Or something. They're so stupid basically because Sidious cast some dark spell that makes them retarded. It's in the movie.

>>219914554
>Biochips are genetic modifications
Biochips are not the same as generic modification. Biochips were only added as an addendum to address the good clones like Rex issue. Biochips can be removed, as we see, genetics cannot. You're wrong.

>AOTC didn't state anything like that.
The intent was there, Lucas says as much, the movie was vague enough. But the EU was retconned by the Clone Wars. And retcons did happen.

>>219914490
>>219914554
>>219914509
they changed it because they humanized clones too much in tcw so it became be hard to believe that these basically regular people but with identical faces would turn on their comrades because of some genetic mumbo jumbo.

>>219914595
there is another lucas

I don't understand how the Jedi are meant to be the good guys when they willingly continue to serve the senate who are shown to be self serving and corrupt at an institutional level, they're just the space police for a galaxy spanning oligarchy

>>219914578
If Palpatine brought up an army out of no where without the Jedi finding it, it would be too obvious and weird. Oh hey we just voted for an army, here it is. I guess Palpatine just foresaw all this shit.

>>219914617
>Biochips are not the same as generic modification.
Yeah, they are. They literally say what it is. Genetic modification made out of organic cells that is built into their genetic code that grows as a part of their brain.
>The intent was there, Lucas says as much
No, there was no intent. What I see here is your headcanon interpretation. And Lucas never said as much. If he did, you will have no problem bringing me what he said with sources.
>But the EU was retconned
EU was never canon and Lucas had no part in it. He never read it, he never knew any of it, and he disavowed it multiple times.

>>219914669
Woah buddy what are you, a Sith or something?

>hm, some weird aliens have been manufacturing an intergalactics army of semisentient clone soldiers, for somebody who is obviously an alias
>oh no some aliens are refusing to pay their space taxes, I guess we'll just take this army that we just found and fight a war with it
This is just so bizarre a situation I don't understand it

>>219913963
Elijah 100% posts here
Seething about lawd dem rangz and star wars

>>219914669
Jedi in spirit feel like they should be wandering space monks putting shit right. But this is just a vibe and interpretation and not canon.

Lucas has them as an ineffectual police force/diplomatic corp who represent neo liberal status quo and who don't even do anything about issues like slavery (Dooku in an EU book rants about how old Yoda is and how slavery still exists).

>>219914669
The Jedi try to fix it. Every other alternative is infinitely worse and will bring much more suffering. They do what they can with the power and influence they have.

>>219914687
don't forget that it all started with the separatists catching a jedi spying on them and jedi launching an attack to free him

>>219914490
>Originally AOTC Sifo Dyas was just full on manipulated by Dooku/Sidious
Where was that established in the movie? Nowhere.
>Much like how they originally intended it to be conditioning for why the Clones did Order 66 but later changed it to biochips. the change did happen. That's a fact.
The clones were genetically modified to obey Darth Sidious. Nothing changed in that regard. Biochips is how that genetic manipulation was done. No change, no contradiction.

You're the one who made wrong assumptions

>>219913345
>sifo dyas
>si (fo) dios
>sidios
>sidious
Jesus christ I never even got this

>>219914669
count dooku ovah here

>>219914675
You can't remove genes. The biochips are organic in nature but that's not the same as generic. They were added. Ashoka removes them. You can't just remove generic material. Also they were only added because Sifo Dyas was worried about rogue Jedi and it was Sidious/Dooku who changed them.

>Behavioral modification biochips[7] were implanted in the clone troopers of the Grand Army of the Republic on the suggestion of Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas, who initially ordered the clone army, as a contingency against the clones being given orders by rogue Jedi.[2] According to Doctor Nala Se, it was not uncommon for clones of many different kinds to be implanted with inhibitor chips.[3] However, after the Sith hijacked the project, the chips were tooled to another purpose: to force the clones to comply with the execution of Order 66, which wiped out nearly all Jedi.[5]
Not genetic, implanted.

>EU was never canon and Lucas had no part in it.
Obviously, but the concepts changed several times from pre-production to film to EU to Clone Wars. There were marked changes. This is not headcanon. Why are you so upset at someone simply pointing out retcons happened? I'm just pointing it out, not even making a judgement on it. It's weird this upsets you so much. I don't get it.

>>219914709
They have a gigantic temple in the middle of space Tel Aviv and override the Senate whenever they feel like it. Where was the vote to go to war or to appoint Jedi as generals?

>>219914799
The Jedi are basically space Mossad

>>219914713
How do they try to fix it? I never see them investigate and remove the corrupt senators, their entire existence is to uphold a status quo that benefits the senate which they also benefit from

>>219914742
>No change, no contradiction.
Anon, there was a change and it was purposefully done to facilitate good clones from the Clone Wars not participating in Order 66. Being conditioned or genetically modified to kill the Jedi is different from a biochip being implanted that could be removed.

>You're the one who made wrong assumptions
I don't understand why pointing out changes or retcons upsets you.

>>219914799
Jedi should have had a temple on a natural planet, not in the middle of Coruscsnt. And part of Palpatine's plan to defeat them involved driving them out of just wandering and helping the republic and into the midst of the war.

Making them part of the bureaucracy simply robbed them of their mystique.

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>>219914095
>check the jedi server logs
mystery solved

reminder that count dooku was evil and not some misunderstood ex-jedi, he didn't even believe in the ideals of the separatists, neither did general grievous

>>219914878
But what if he deleted the deletion log and then deleted the deletion log of the deletion log?

>>219914861
>natural planet
As opposed to an unnatural planet?

>>219914919
Coruscant is pretty unnatural. It's just structures bro, deep down structures. Structures everywhere. Stick then in a forest or something. Nature reserve shit. not next to the currency bureau or whatever.

>>219914789
>You can't remove genes. The biochips are organic in nature but that's not the same as generic. They were added.
Right. They organic cellular modification was built into their genetic code, making it a genetic modification - by definition. As a result, there is a tissue that naturally grows inside as a part of their brain. It cannot be added or implanted. How do you picture this? They had their heads open and literally placed it into their brains? That's not what happened. Clones don't have scars on their heads. Watch actual episodes instead of quoting Wookieepedia that is written by retards. The fact that the tissue that grew as a result of genetic modifications can be removed doesn't suddenly change the fact that genetic modification was made in the first place.
>Not genetic, implanted.
Not implanted, grown inside their brain as a result of genetic modification. Watch the actual episodes.
>Obviously, but the concepts changed several times from pre-production to film to EU to Clone Wars.
EU is completely irrelevant, was never consistent with the movies in the first place, and Lucas had no part in making it. It was just someone else's interpretation. Lucas made the movies and Clone Wars, and they line up with each other pretty well. What the actual movie implied:
>>219914554
>We know that Sifo-Dyas was killed roughly 10 years prior. We also know that Jango Fett was hired by Tyranus, and he doesn't know who Sifo-Dyas is. Which implies that Sifo-Dyas placed the initial order on the army, didn't find a host yet, he then was killed, and Tyranus took over.
Is what ended up being the case. Unsurprisingly.
You have brought up some headcanon:
>>219914617
>The intent was there, Lucas says as much
even though nothing of sorts was in the movie, and Lucas never said anything of sorts. You have yet to bring me the quotes of Lucas "saying as much", with sources.

>>219914919
Yeah like a planet that's entirely covered with city, you know, an unnatural planet.

>>219914578
>They use Jango Fett hiring Zam Wessell using a droid using bugs.

This pisses me off so much. Jango hires another bounty hunter who then hires a robot that in turn hires some centipedes to actually do the dirty work. What a stupid contrived bullshit. In the meantime, Jango is hanging out and apparently secretly joining in the crazy chase through corruscant all so he can shoot an easily traced special dart at the bounty hunter he hired.

If he just shot the bountyhunter with any other gun Obi Wan would have zero leads to the mysterious planet. But no, he incidentily knows the owner of a local 50's dinner that knows the origin of said dart even though nobody aparently looked it up in over 10 years.

>>219914759
wait
>obi wan kenobi
>obi wan
>old ben
>oben
>open
>hold the door
woah

>>219914946
I saw that video too. I'm sure it didn't "piss you off" until you had your firmware updated by the video

>>219914952
>Qui Gon dies because Young Ben is being held up by doors
bravo vince

What authority did the Jedi have to even arrest Palpatine? Their charge against him is that he's a Sith, is being a Sith a crime? Can a Sith not be a chancellor?

>>219914976
You actually have a rebuttal that isn't
>Grrr Youtube videos are the only reason people hate the prequels!

>>219915002
>Why are you doing this to me? For what reason? What is the charge? Being a Sith? A devious dark-sided Sith? Oh that's a nice stance, master jedi, oh, ah yes, I see that you know your lightsabre fighting well. Good one.

>>219914942
The biochips were implanted in the embryos.
>The chips were surgically implanted into the brains of every single clone embryo past stage three of development
Implanted.

>That's not what happened. Clones don't have scars on their heads.
Canonically it is what happened. When they were embryos.

>EU is completely irrelevant
Why do you keep repeating this shit? I know it is, I said as much. All I'm saying is stuff changed. And you just go, nuhuh. When it factually did. People can decide for themselves whether the changes were good or not.

>Watch actual episodes instead of quoting Wookieepedia that is written by retards.
So sources are not allowed.

>You have yet to bring me the quotes of Lucas "saying as much", with sources.
Because you don't listen to facts anyway. You want me to go away and write an essay with quotes when you don't accept anything anyway. It's exhausting dealing with your autism.

All I said: changes were made to different concepts at different points before and after the movie. Which is completely factually true. Whether or not those changes matter or are good is open to interpretation. But you deny that reality. So what do you want from me? You won't accept anything changed so what's the point in this conversation. We're just repeating ourselves.

Palpatine was a hero who was trying to unify the galaxy so that they could fend off the Yuuzhan Vong. Defeating the Empire caused trillions of needless deaths.

>>219914919
Like Coruscant fuck me

>>219914946
The dart was the only thing that led to Kamino so like. If no one could recognise the dart, no one would have gone. How else would the army appear.

>>219915002
>What authority did the Jedi have to even arrest Palpatine?
Authority bestowed upon them by the Galactic Senate as guardians of peace and justice.
>Their charge against him is that he's a Sith, is being a Sith a crime?
Their charge is that he is a traitor, he is in league with the Separatists, going way back to the events of The Phantom Menace and illegal invasion of Naboo, orchestrating the war and many other heinous crimes that he's responsible for. Being a Sith proves that it is true, because the Jedi were searching for the mysterious Sith Lord for the past 13 years. And since there can only be two, no one else could have been responsible.

>>219915060
So, still quoting wookieepedia, and not the actual episodes, and still no Lucas quotes with him "saying as much"? Just what I thought. I accept your concession. It's just weird that you are so desperate to gaslight people into believing some retarded stuff, it's weird that you lie out of your ass, saying that Lucas said something, and then you don't show us what Lucas said (he never did).

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>>219915087
The Jedi have no proof of anything you stated, the entire premise given for his arrest is that Anakin says he's a Sith Lord

>>219914942
>Watch actual episodes
>built into their genetic code
The episode explicitly says it was NOT part of their DNA. Part of the reason the Jedi didn't detect it.

You're wrong.

>>219915087
>>219915118
>Jedi can literally read minds
>Black Jedi Man can actively read how fucked the senators thoughts are after what was going to be a investigation lead to a treason plot

I don't need proof, it's literal space magic.
Also
Being a Sith is a crime.

>>219915111
See: >>219915125
You're factually incorrect.
>I accept your concession.
Oh so you're one of those autists. You've already been shown to be wrong multiple times. And we have clear evidence things changed but you don't accept that. It's not gaslighting to point out concepts changed from before the film, the film itself and after. Why can't you accept it? Mental.

>>219915087
>Authority bestowed upon them by the Galactic Senate as guardians of peace and justice.
I don't think that's actually a power given to them by the senate. At least the films do not make that clear.

>>219915144
If the Jedi could read minds then Palpatine would've been exposed from the start, also it's good you admit the Jedi are tyrants that forbid a religion because it's critical of their views

>>219915111
>>219915151
The actual episode Fugitive shows:
>The chips aren't part of their DNA, they have different structure.
>They are implanted as they are embryos.

>>219914952
>Obi Wan Kenobi
>O Bi Wanken No Bi
What did they mean by this

>>219915071
It's a good thing that the jeedai that was tasked with defending the senator knew a fat cafe owner who had experience in knowing where super secret darts come from. Imagine if the shapeshifting butt hunter had gotten away, or the corpse had fallen down one of the many endless holes in the area.

>>219915169
it is literal space magic.
I do not need proof.

I accept you don't have an actual argument though. Thanks for playing.

>>219914952
>obi wan kenobi
>old BEN kenobi
Oh shit....

>>219915125
>>219915151
Well yeah, dumbfuck. It's not a part of the original DNA, because it's a modification. But that means that it's......... GENETIC MODIFICATION! Original DNA was altered, with shit added to it to make them totally obedient! Which results in a tissue growing inside their brains! That manifests when they reach embryo stage! Which means they are totally obedient because of a genetic modification! Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! No fucking way!
>You've already been shown to be wrong multiple times.
Nice projection. You did not even watch the movies, did not watch the show. You quote wookieepedia that is a fan wiki written by retards. Oh, and you still have to bring me those Lucas quotes where he "says as much." Until then, your concession has been accepted.

>>219914952
Anakin SKYWALKER
Luke SKYWALKER
Could there be some connection

>>219914990
it's all starting to make sense.
>darth vader
>dark vater
>dirk water
>dirk ice
>arya's dirk into ice king's heart

>>219915190
Star Wars is layered and multifaceted, a modern epic on the level of Gilgamesh and Zootopia. The first Bi is pronounced Be as in 'he be wankin', but the second Bi is pronounced like Bi in Bisexual. Because he's not wankin to no dude.

>>219915227
Something is definitely going on...

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>>219915118
The proof was him whipping out his red lightsaber, spinning and screaming, killing 3 jedi masters and then shooting sith lightning in mace window's face.

>>219915041
>rebuttal
keep plebbiting along, mindlessly.
you know exactly which video you lifted the pretend observation of "daahh assassin hired assassin lmao lmao lmao" from, why bother repeating it, or at least credit it instead of being some kind of canned spastic

>>219915235
This also explains how Cersei could cover up Luke's heritage for so long, as Dark Vader was dark of hair but Luke was light side.

>>219915187
>still lying
The word "implanted" was never ever used in the episode, by the way. The clear implication is that it grows inside of their heads. They don't cut open the embryo's heads and then stitch it back. That was never said, shown or implied. Jesus, you are pathetic.

>>219915071
makes you realise that Jango was instructed to lead the jedi there so the army could be used and all of them could be killed off.
typical tricks

The prequels suck, by the way.

>>219915190
>qui jon
>queer john
>john is a prostitute word for a customer
>queer in those days still meant "odd" or peculiar
>qui jon was a peculiar customer of a prostitute, so regular a visitor that all the prostitutes knew of his reputation.

>>219915263
>baratheon
>bar at theon
>Theon greyjoy
>enjoys grey things
>the bar on tattoine is dark
>Theon is at the bar and is enjoying it

>>219915218
You are without doubt one of the most retarded people I've talked to on here:
>Genetic modification (GM), or genetic engineering, is the direct manipulation of an organism's genome—its DNA or RNA—using biotechnology to alter its characteristics
>direct manipulation
>of an organism's genome
How is implanting a chip that isn't part of the organisms DNA genetic modification? It isn't. You don't know the definition of words.

>That manifests when they reach embryo stage!
It was ADDED during embryo stage. Not manifested. Their DNA was not manipulated. They had foreign material added in later on top. It avoided detection, essentially. Essentially it's no different to if the chip was mechanical and implanted to control their minds. It's just a biological device, which is confusing you. The fact the chip had been removed shows it wasn't something inherent. Their own DNA was not manipulated to make the chip, it was foreign. The whole reason they added it later was because it allowed customisation.

Genetic modification would be, the Clone would grow it because of genetic changes manifesting. But this is implantation at embryo stage with foreign material.

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>>219915286
Prequels are fucking kino and the only reason Shart Wars is still even a little relevant after Disney pissed all over it.

>>219915270
The material is not part of the clones DNA. The episode says that.

Genetic modification WOULD be part of the clones DNA. That's the difference you don't get.

>>219915366
No. Also I'd be okay with Star Wars just being forgotten at this point.

>>219915352
>It was ADDED during embryo stage.
>But this is implantation at embryo stage with foreign material.
Cool headcanon. Shame it didn't happen in the actual television show, was never stated or even implied: >>219915270

>>219914976
What video? I watched the movie recently and joked about it with my girlfriend. Since it's a big issue in the plot could it be some youtuber made the same conclusion we all have?

It's about as weird as nobody checking in on Anakin's mom. Or the fact neither Yoda, Obi Wan or Anakin bothered to just damage the escape craft of Dooku so he would be easily captured; the clones surprise landing in the arena with non of the baddies noticing the ships in orbit. Perhaps worst is how Palpy is practically spelling out to Anakin that he is the Sith at the bubble concert.

>>219915071
I dont even hate them but some weird story choices were made that shouldn't have been made.

>>219915413
The episode literally states the biochips are not the same as the clones DNA. You're wrong. Go and watch the episode.

>>219915270
>>219915413
https://youtu.be/sCcNZm2lzQ0
The kaminoan literally uses the word implanted. Wrong again!

1:17

>>219915474
>Implanted during your growth cycle.
Kek

>>219915324
>1920s hardnosed broad at the brothel says another Qui Gon came by asking for you, Laurie

>>219915260
Thats somebody else. I am the one who made the original comment you replied to and I have not taken it from a Youtube video but watched the movie recently. Frankly I don't give a shit if you don't believe me but I want the truth to be at least available. I think you underestimate the number of people that got to this insight independently and that no Youtube video is required to do so.

>>219915218
>>219915270
>>219915413
See: >>219915474
>Nala Se: implanted during your growth cycle
>implanted
I accept your concession.

>>219915474
>AI edits
Yuck. Sure, I believe you.

>>219915527
>Video uploaded 9 years ago
>AI edits
Kek

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>>219912045
>>219913963
Maybe the fact that he wasn't present when the council were testing Anakin, or that we never saw him take a seat. It has been a while, but I can't remember if there were any empty seats, implying that he wasn't a member of the council.

>>219915539
>he doesn't know

>>219912045
>>219913963
The worst shit is how the Disney Marvel Star Wars comics set during the OT had to add shit like Exegol to retroactively explain this shit. Vader visited Exegol. Disney EU was honestly mental. The post-OT stuff is utterly retarded in how it cucks the New Republic to get to the Resistance. Heck even shit like Mandalorian had to mention shit like cloning to try and explain Snoke.

>>219911734
Lucas was going for a gradual dismantling of democratic institutions driven by an agenda of national security and foreign threats which is actually a really cool ambition for a blockbuster pulp sci-fi movie and spot on post 9/11. Only problem is that it's not very well executed

>>219915566
>Gets proven wrong
>Resorts to desperate cope
Pretty funny.

>>219913891
Native English speakers don't have problems parsing garbled posts like that.

>>219911645
A notable portion of prequel hatred can be explained by the lacking attention span of their detractors.

>>219913780
It's not the fans fault the cartoon changed what the film implied.

>>219915626
Anon, it's fine if you like the action, ideas and concepts but the prequels do still have poor execution. Nothing will change that. Heck, in Episode 3, the Padme dream sequence and the Padme plotline was actually added in later because test audiences were confused why Anakin would join Palpatine. The motivation felt lacking. A lot of the prequels have that issue.

>>219915700
Even many prequel fans admit the execution was lacking. Just how it is.

FUCK Star Wars.

>>219915735
I hate Star Wars too. It created this cultural wasteland.

>>219915771
>See how obnoxious it is for someone to talk like this
So stop talking like that. Nothing I have said is anything like that. Sure, some prequel detractors can be annoying but then so can many prequel fans. 10% of people, usually the most extreme, drive shitty conversation. Most people fans or criticisers can talk normally.

>>219915813
I genuinely want to knock your fucking block off

>>219915838
Cool. New York. Meet you tomorrow at two in the afternoon in Time Square. I'll destroy you.

>>219911645
Same

>>219911645
It was an alias for Sidious, dumbass.
>Sifo-dious
>Sidious
Lucas wasn't even subtle.

>>219915260
Hey anon, why did Jango hire another Bounty Hunter? Especially one that was so willing to sell him out? Hell why did he give the other bounty hunter his name to begin with? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to recognize that adding more people to your conspiracy to assassinate a sitting senator is not a good fucking idea.

>>219914095
>Archival system doesn't keep a record of deletions
Those lazy fucks really did deserve it

>>219915914
>Where I can't fucking put a bullet in your head.
You don't even want to fight like a man. What a little bitch.

>>219915997
They're religious mystics, not IT guys.

>>219916105
You know the catholic church has an IT department right?

>>219916105
CSI Coruscant would have defeated Palpatine pretty easily.

>>219915418
>Palpatine spelling out to Anakin that he's a Sith
That's entirely intentional and part of his plan, letting him know that he can "save his wife" and Anakin immediately rats him out (then hastily tries to undo it), all of which are "reasonable"

>>219916138
>Palpatine spells out he can save Padme
>But as soon as Mace is dead, Palpatine admits he was lying and says only one mastered that power but together they could perhaps do it
I know the argument is, Anakin had turned, in for a penny in for a pound. But Palpatine really baits and switches him, while getting shocked he says only he can save her, then literally says he can't.

>>219914669
That's actually part of the point, they're meant to be incompetent, corrupt bureaucrats (at least at the organisational scale) that have married themselves to secular power (funnily enough though KOTOR has a similar message but mostly from the opposite angle)

>>219916129
But they couldn't hide all that diddling. Meanwhile the Jedi order hid their diddling pretty well. >>219916190

>>219912045
pretty sure someone in TPM says that if Qui-Gon wasn't such a rebel he would have had a seat on the council.

>>219914709
That is intentional, to show that they've lost their way (the prequels are meant to be a "criticism" of what the Jedi have become)

>>219915002
He ate a succulent Neimoidian meal

>>219914124
Lucas is kind of a retard desu

>>219915050
>I see you know your Juyo well

>>219911694
Stop asking completely logical questions!

>>219916190
>>219916220
>That's actually part of the point
I don't think it was executed well at all. I know what you're saying but it's an undercooked theme with little to it. Do you not think that this point doesn't lend well to things. What's the point in restoring the Jedi or anything else. I feel like this needed more work to make this point matter.

The prequels don't tell us if the poor state of the Republic was a natural decline overtime or Sith manipulation. The Jedis ability to use the force had diminished but again, we don't know why. The EU suggests it was all Sith manipulation.

So basically the reason why this point is meh is because we don't know why they're ineffectual. If it's because of the Sith, then it is more their enemy manipulating them than them losing their way. It's just not good criticism because it doesn't really fit well.

>>219915227
Take your meds, schizo
Next you'll be telling me Anakin actually survived the Jedi purge and is Emperor Palpatine's right hand man

>>219915626
I will give you the fact that a huge amount of the people seething about the prequels are that George Lucas, a man with the subtlety of an elephant in musth rampaging through a porcelain shop, didn't have ENOUGH autistic exposition dumps (like people still say "hurr how she die broken heart" when it's visually spelled out almost explicitly)

>>219916402
You what? Most people complain he had too many autistic exposition dumps and did a bad job of showing much about the republic without just spelling it out.

>>219915286
Based

>>219915366
Cringe.
Watch the Plinkett reviews.

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>>219911645
>The mercenary that is the template for the clones of the Republic also works for the separatists and doesn't appear to sabotage or spy for them at all
>This doesn't raise any suspicion
These films are so insanelly dumb.

>>219916507
But thr wars happening so let us just all ignore all this shit even though this shit could stop the war.

>>219914087
>They really shied away from showing actual destruction and consequences for the war.
turns out neither a bunch of dead clones or a bunch of crumpled robots really pull on anyone’s heartstrings. shit storytelling choice, removing the dramatic human element from war

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>>219912191
Damn that was too funny

Why did Jango even bring up Tyranus to Obi Wan?

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>>219914942
>EU is completely irrelevant, was never consistent with the movies in the first place, and Lucas had no part in making it. It was just someone else's interpretation. Lucas made the movies and Clone Wars, and they line up with each other pretty well.
Generally yes but Lucas greenlit EU projects and made plot decisions on them in some cases (Chewbacca dying in Vector Prime). Plus he incorporated EU ideas into the films like the name Coruscant. Also Lucas played Dark Forces and allowed things like Kyle Katarn stealing the death star plans to go forward. So while his stories did overrule and retcon EUshit he respected it enough to engage with it and say it was canon (though at a lower level). It wasn't some completely separate thing

>>219916544
>turns out neither a bunch of dead clones or a bunch of crumpled robots really pull on anyone’s heartstrings
It's simple really:
>Have the CIS use cloned aliens.
>Republic has ineffectual planetary defense forces.
>Palpatine makes a Republic Army from these forces and has them declare allegiance to him, slowly they begin to become fanatical extremists.
In one fell swoop you explain why the Empire military is human based, why Palpatine could ban and hide cloning, why anyone would choose to be a Stormtrooper. Having a fanatical force kill the Jedi, the Republics protectors, would feel more meaningful than clones with chips, and you could just say the war and the Sith stopped the Jedi seeing it coming. This is what the old EU sort of implied. With real people fighting you could show real devastation. And show differences between some planets, maybe Alderan forces etc don't really fall for it as much.

>>219916138
Like: >>219916189 says. The execution is terrible. Any semi sensible person would ask themselves the question "Could this guy be tricking me? Putting those bad dreams in my mind to get me to turn? Would be classic dark side shenanigans". Then it actually turns out he was tricked and Palpy immediately tells him not to be a sucker and that he can't do it.

>>219916438
The original criticisms were "why is this a fucking politics simulator in my kids movie" and "words words words" but I've noticed a trend "lately" of people complaining that "it never explained why that thing happened or who that guy is"

Why did Sidious want to assassinate Padme again? Was she threatening his takeover somehow? She totally failed to do anything

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>>219916680
Dooku wanted to assassinate her to appease Nute Gunray who was mad at her for the events of Phantom Menace. Nute Gunray said he'd only join him if he has Padme's head on his desk. Dooku hires Jango. Jango hires Zam. Zam hires a robot. Robot hires bugs. Palpatine actually had nothing to do with it, and it's clear that the Jedi stumbled upon the clone army earlier than Palpatine expected, but it worked out anyway, because of course it does. Evil wins because good is dumb.

>>219914838
>Anon, there was a change and it was purposefully done to facilitate good clones from the Clone Wars not participating in Order 66
LMAO not only does that argument make no sense, but all the clones from the show pariticipated in order 66

the joke is on you

Thinking of plot holes we also have the one where Obi Wan is looking at the security cam hologram to get all plot exposition he needs (Anakin killing younglings and the events in Palpy's office). Could have saved a lot of lives if they checked these more often.

>>219916750
Ah, I see. I had forgotten all of that except the slapstick series of assassin delegating.

>>219916668
One second ago you said people wanted more exposition dumps, then I said they didn't, then you now agree that people wanted less exposition dumps? Less words words?

I think the problem here is you're taking all criticism into the same ball. I think people confuse legitimate criticism with joking criticisms. Like the Simpsons did a joke about TPM. I don't think the joke is to be taken seriously, it is a kernel of a complaint, sure. But people have different complaints. Saying all detractors think X is a mistake.

I think the Senate scenes in TPM do stop the momentum of the film. All the problems of the Republic are just explained to us via Palpatine's dialogue and it isn't presented in an interesting way. So I'm not asking for more exposition, like you said previously, I'm asking for less. So your criticisms take two opposing points.

For me this criticism of the politics is similar to how the clone wars, between two disposable armies, lack the humanistic examples and us the audience being shown the problems in an artistic way.

Sure a lot of people can be dumb, the who is that guy thing, but again, different people, different criticisms. These prequel debates are so wrapped up in memes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.

I don't like the prequels, don't mind the multi media project though. They'll still always be executed poorly for me, but if people want to enjoy them, there cool.

>>219916750
Padme wanted to negotiate with the CIS. Palpatine was pushing the military bill to make an army of the republic which Padme was against. Getting Padme out the way was to allow this bill to pass. Hence he manipulated jar Jar.

>>219916787
>but all the clones from the show pariticipated in order 66
Wrong again. Rex didn't participate. Can you not even understand cartoons for kids.

>>219916822
>Palpy's office
I don't think it is his office. Some people argue: this proves the Jedi were spying on him. BUT the dialogue shows it is after the attack on the temple. I think it's meant to be Palpatine visiting the Jedi temple after the attack.

>>219916914
Yeah, but Palpatine had nothing to do with it. Palpatine just used this opportunity to have Padme go away. The movie explicitly says it was on behalf of Nute Gunray.

>>219916960
I did some research after posting and indeed it seems like the dialogue is different. The implication seems to be that Palpy came to the temple to check on Anakin after his murder spree. Which would indeed explain why Obi Wan had such easy access to the cam footage.

>>219916787
>>219916937
>but all the clones from the show pariticipated in order 66
Rex didn't, Fives didn't, Bad Batch didn't, all the other clones who appeared in Rebels mentioned removing their chips on Rex's behest.

>>219917018
As I said. I had just watched the scene too.

>>219917013
Sure but it also fits Palpatine's plans (Miliary Creation Act) using Palpatine's assets (Dooku, Jango etc). The movie says Nute Gunray wanted her dead, repeated in the stadium scene, shoot her or something.

But again, we have no idea how Palpatine intended to introduce the Clone Army, which is why some people joke that the whole convoluted conspiracy was Palpatine's plan, which is funny.

>>219917013
>>219917168
Palpatine was already spinning the bomb attempt on Padme as some justification for his policies somewhat. Very two birds, one stone..

>starslop
Grow up.

>>219917085
>Rex didn't, Fives didn't
LMAO you don't know what you're talking about

>>219913528
>Is that why she told Obi Wan it didn't exist?
she's meant to be indicative of Jedi hubris, you fool

>>219916937
>>219917085
Rex did tho. Did u watch the show's finale?
Fives died before that, so of course he didn't. Why even bring him up.
Bad Batch are a bunch of literal mutated freaks, but also their show was made under Disney. I'm sure if Lucas was making it then they'd participate. Lucas said all the clones were programmed to obey order 66 and there was no way they could physically refuse it, which is why the Fives arc exists. Lucas just did not like the idea of the clones having a choice in that matter, and he intended for every single one obeying it without a moment's hesitation cause they're made in a lab to do so, which is what the movie showed.

>>219916937
>Wrong again. Rex didn't participate
he obeyed darth sidious and executed the order LMAO clearly you didn't even watch the show and are talking out of your ass

>>219917360
>>219917391
>>219917378
The chip literally gave Ahsoka a get out clause when it came to not killing Rex and Rex not killing Ahsoka. Proving the chips were pretty much added because the cartoon had humanised the clones. It was a get out clause.

>>219912045
Wookiepedia

This is probably a question for AI, but I wonder what film theory has been written about architecture. Showing a film is like touring a series of designed spaces that create specific feelings, often literal buildings. I'm thinking of this because of the Jedi temple on Coruscant and the broader question of how to fix the prequels. What does the film architecture of the Jedi temple do for the audience?

I think the wide open spaces, the absolute authority of the Jedi, and the bright cgi lighting create a feeling that the story is over. It's more like the conclusion of the EU and Lucas's notes (that already had a Jedi temple) than it is a meaningful part of Anakin's story. Maybe if he tore it down stone by stone and killed Jedi masters himself, but the building and master Yoda are aloof. They're untouchable because Star Wars was already written.

>>219917937
>This is probably a question for AI
Cut the middle man and just ask reddit.

>>219917937
Touch grass, dude. These kids movies are meant to sell toys. They're not that deep.

>>219915626
If you believe that you are genuinely an egotistical retard.

>>219918018
Star Wars is one of the greatest movies ever made. Then they had a pretty decent sequel. This isn't out of left field at all.

>>219918062
Watch more movies. Grow the fuck up.

>>219918094
I have no attachment to the prequels obviously or I wouldn't imagine rewriting them wholesale. You're just on autopilot or something. I hope you're not living in a world of second-hand, childish banalities.

>>219911645
Why on earth would you think that?

>>219911694
It wasn't money they paid with anon. They wanted gene samples. Remeber the blood sample taken from little Ani in E1? Sifo-Dyas paid with a lot of blood samples.

>>219911733
Yes. samples from dead Jedi masters

>>219916866
I'm just saying that the actual criticisms were about unnecessary "politics shit" at the time the movie was released (especially Phantom Menace) but seem to have shifted nowadays

>>219912308
Actually TCW screws that up too, since in it, the Republic is often winning.

>>219911645
He was setting him up for "sifo-dyas nuts" but Obi-Wan saw through the clever ruse and parried it.

>>219911645

He was a contemporary of Duku who had trouble because of force visions. He died and Duku tried using his blood to gives Grevious force powers which did not work. Duku used his name as an allias to setup this clone shit.

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>>219911694
>Why didn’t Obi-Wan actually explore that financial transaction more thoroughly?
Trans Action? *giggles* yeah obi wan loved getting him some TRANS action, get it? lmao busted..... *chuckles*.... dude I was so baked when I wrote this shit.....
>Sifo Dyas paid for it?
Swiffo? Man I don't even know who the FUCK that is mang...... you know what this scene REALLY needs? Fucking JAR JAR man, he's the key to all this... hey who smoked all the weed?
>Using what money?
Money? Fuck yeah man let's get a pizza I'm fucking starving maaaang.... *yawns*
>What bank account?
*zzzzzzzzzz*

>>219911694
Put it on the Republic's tab.

>>219915590
And they basically made Exegol the reason Vader is so depressed in ROTJ