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Why did Justice League fail?
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Because Snyders daughter killed herself after watching Sucker Punch.
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>>219915822
this
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>>219915799
WB/DC need better writers. Gunn's stuff doesn't work either if it's not a GotG clone. Superman wasn't bad, but it was missing something, and Supergirl looks like shit. They picked a comic that is famous for the visuals and meh story, and they focus on the story, while completely shitting themselves with the visuals.
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>>219915799
>either if it's not a GotG clone. Superman wasn't bad, but it was missing something, and Supergirl looks like shit. They picked a comic that is famous for the visuals and meh story, and they focus o
same reason all snydershit failed and everything build on it failed
snyder
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Henry Cavill as eye candy was the only reason to watch that atrocity. No homo.
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>>219915930
I agree with this. No matter how much you spend on special effects and actors, your movie will be terrible if the script isn't strong enough on its own. Occasionally, you also need someone to step in and set things straight when the director or screenwriter gets carried away with a bad idea.
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>>219915799
seems pretty clear it was due to the absence of green lantern.
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>>219917218
Found Ryan Reynolds
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>>219915822
No, she killed herself because she was Zack Snyder's daughter.
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Theatrical cut is better and the best parts are the parts that were obviously Whedon's added scenes.
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Can't they just make a live action adaptation of the cartoon? I personally don't care about movies, but if they want so much to throw their money away to appease Indians and China with a inferior medium, just make a copy of what worked.
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>>219915799
Terrible actor choices. I hated Flash, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor. I also hated that neither Batman or Superman were allowed to wear trunks on their costumes and Wonder Woman had to wear an armored skirt. So I wanted it to fail. I to this day have not watched ANY Snyder DC movies.
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>>219917306
Animation as a medium is better than live action, especially when it comes to comic characters. So there's no need to adapt the show into live action, it would be a redundant demake no matter how they did it. If anything, they should just go back and make more actually good animated shows featuring comic characters.
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>>219917383
Yes, that's my opinion as well, but for some reason people really want crappy live actions with the same meme actors. This kind of garbage on the catalog feels like those fake movie trailers from India with Tom Holland and The Rock.
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>>219917444
>>219917383
imagine the quality of capeshit we could have if they would fund animated movies the same way they do live-action.
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>>219915822
She kept getting unsolicited dick pics from indians and decided enough was enough
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>>219917575
Yes. They wouldn't even need to be expensive. Just go back to spending a million or more an episode like they did when they were making Batman/JL in the 90s and 00s. The only reason why these capeshit movies took off in the first place was because of how much nostalgia and love there was for those 90s cartoons. If they go back to making good animated shows then in another 20 years they'll be able to take advantage of Alpha nostalgia with new capeshit films.
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>>219915799
>Why did Justice League fail?
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>>219917693
You forgot to label the 4th guy "fag".
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>>219917383
>>219917575
Kinda off topic, but I wished invincible was given a similar art style to the justice league cartoons or one of the first three ben 10 shows. It would pair well with it being almost like a Saturday day morning cartoon but edgy.
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>>219915799
First the whole project was rushed as hell.
The lineup of the movies, to use a Marvel analogy, went
>Iron Man, Civil War, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor, Avengers
Fucking Batman hadn't even had a solo movie yet. The movie had to introduce three wholly new main characters as well as the plot, as well as bringing Superman back to life.

Then there was the issue of how Snyder butchered the main characters
>Superman is a mopey, edgy dork who hasn't been really shown as a superhero yet
>Batman kills people with guns
>Wonder Woman was set in the past so all of her supporting cast is dead, plus she was made a not-public hero for no good reason
That was already bad. But then it was made even worse when they did a 180 from Snyder's entire direction creating a jarring film for no one.

A Justice League film should, on paper, be way more successful than an Avengers one. The Justice League are way more famous and comprised of way more well known characters than the Avengers (who were really a b team to the X-Men, anyway) but execution is everything
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>>219915799
No Martian Manhunter, no watch, simple as.
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>>219915799
Every time she moved those arms just wobbled everywhere
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>>219915799
It only works animated. They never seem to get that.
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>>219917662
Into the Spiderverse budget was only 90 mill and made almost 400mill, and who knows how many new spider-man fan it created who will buy the comics, toys and everything else, while The Flash budget was 220 mill and made 271 mill.
This should be a no-brainier.
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>>219917267
Top tier delusion. Hack is overrated, but Whedon is even worse.
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>>219915799
It was a very bad movie, both versions of it
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>>219915799
Real answer? Because Warner Bros is a joke of a company, more concerned with chasing Disney's tail than making good movies, and therefore sabotaged Snyder's movie, replacing him with Joss Whedon, then sabotaged Whedon to shit the frankensteined movie out unfinished because someone wanted a little bonus payment, and then when the Snyder Cut finally got green light, Snyder had gone through so much shit that he ended up sabotaging the movie with hacked-together fanservice bullshit scenes he literally had no budget for. All that considered, Zack Snyder's Justice League is a good movie.

>>219915930
There are very few Hollywood writers better than Chris Terrio.
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>>219920267
>There are very few Hollywood writers better than Chris Terrio.
maybe they should strike more
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>>219919498
nta but Hack literally hates the heroes and their heroism. Joss did what he could to balance everyone’s batshit characterization.
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>>219920526
You're a such a mouthbreather. Snyder's DCEU movies are about overcoming a cynical idea of superheroes. He grounds them only to raise them up after.
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>>219915799
>KAL LEL NOU
>Yup! Something is definitely bleeding!
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>>219920662
YES SAAR, TELL THE BLOODY BASTERD BITCH THAT BLOODY FUCKING FUCK
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>>219915799
>Why did Justice League fail?

Because Snyder, a cocksucking libtard who made election ad for Joe Biden, crammed it full of raceswaps, girlbosses, trannies, and edgy genX nihilism and that is a !!!FACT!!!
He even got on some libtard panel, cried about hate speech and then denounced people who helped him get Snydercut off the ground. Another !!!FACT!!!
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>>219920722
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>>219920844
Chud reaction to getting IQmogged be like
>YOU'RE A JEET
If your goal is to make whites look inferior to browns, you're succeeding.
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>>219920936
post hands (wash the poo down first)
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>>219920866
Mostly bullshit accusations, but the Biden ad was based. Can't wait for Trump to go to prison.
>>219920976
I'll never post anything I've personally photographed on here. You feeling entitled to that is the height of chud delusion. May you find an ending directed by Todd Phillips.
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>>219921120
>no pic
not reading any of that
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>>219915799
What made Avengers good was the fact that each character got their own movie where they could develop on their own. This allowed the audience to invest themselves into the character alone. The first Aquaman movie should have happened before JL. Flash should have had his own movie. WW should have had his own movie. A GL should have had his own movie. Cyborg should just have been a cameo and supporting character like Hawkeye and Black Widow. They should have gotten better actors for Flash and WW. Not Chosenites. BvS should just have been about them two, no WW. It was too crowded.
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>>219915799
Man of Steel and BvS were incredibly controversial movies that underperformed, so people weren't hype for Justice League. In their panic to overcorrect to criticism of MoS and BvS, the budget ballooned to out of control proportions and made the movie even more incoherent which killed its long term box office legs.
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>>219921309
Snyder was too early with the capeshit deconstruction (also probably still the only one doing it well and without cynicism). Look at how popular literal trash like The Boys and Invincible is.
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I love the Snyder cut of Justice League. Fight me.
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>>219921120
>Mostly bullshit accusations
Which ones were bullshit? Race Swaps?
I can take you through entire loooooong list my indian friend.
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>>219921620
>Which ones were bullshit?
The raceswaps are minor, girlbosses are based, there are no trannies, and there is absolutely no nihilism, you illiterate blob of cells.
>I can take you through entire loooooong list my indian friend.
I'm neither your friend nor Indian.
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>>219921396
or too retarded. who starts with ""deconstruction"" during the peak of superhero crave using fucking SUPERMAN
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>>219921749
A visionary. In all seriousness, he wasn't doing deconstruction only; he was deconstructing to then reconstruct, giving them more depth. What people wanted at that time were quips and bashing CGI action figures against each other, so they hated the Sneeder.
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>>219921832
i appreciate the effort but the execution was garbage.

>hat people wanted at that time were quips and bashing CGI action figures against each other, so they hated the Sneeder.
if this were true people would love the sneeder verse know, and they don't (unless they are brown)
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>>219921866
You type like a foreigner.
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>>219921721
>The raceswaps are minor
Pic related.
>girlbosses are based
Of course Snyder cuckold would think that. That's why Lois Lane has highest Kryptonian killcount in DCEU.
>there are no trannies
Flash is literally played by a tranny.
>and there is absolutely no nihilism
Remind me what happened to Jimmy Olson, Sneedertranny?
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>>219922717
Foregneirs are only people who enjoy Snyderlibrtard faggot movies. It's why he made Rebel Moon for them.
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>>219918298
He's in the movie though.
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>>219922717
you type like an indian
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>>219922785
>Foregneirs
The ironing.
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>>219922757
>Remind me what happened to Jimmy Olson, Sneedertranny?
You don't even know the character correct name, showing how unimportant he is.
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>>219922970
>>219922785
you both browns
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>>219915799
They didn't trust Snyder
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>>219921866
No, you're simply not very bright.
>>219922757
>Pic related.
Momoa, no matter how much he LARPs as a minority, owes his looks to his German mother.
>Of course Snyder cuckold would think that.
You are low-T.
>seethes about Lois inserting an alien key
LMAO.
>Flash is literally played by a tranny.
Ezra Miller is a neurotic, Jewish male. There's nothing ambiguous about that.
>random CIA agent gets whacked in the desert
Boohoo.
Also
>Jimmy Olson
Uhh... Who?
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>>219923394
you are brown
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>>219922785
Libtards are orgasm people. You are a repressed chud. You could choose religion, but instead go for something even worse than the libtards. Absolute hell life.
>Rebel Moon
Almost kino.
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>>219915799
Snyder couldn't just let it be a superhero movie, he tried to make it epic, like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or something. It was pretentious melodramatic garbage. All these men playing these grim growling stoic characters and just taking it way to seriously for the scene like it's some broadway theatre performance. It insists upon itself. Zack Snyder's concept did NOT look good in execution.
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>>219915799
Top looks cool bottom looks like shit. Shrimple
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>>219923439
I'm not, but a single drop of my blood is probably worth more than your entire family tree, so it's not as though I give much of a shit about your boorish tribalism anyway. Reality is that all of your "political efforts" are bound to fail and that there's enough space within liberalism to solve the most dire, secular issues of our time, so I'm with them now. Lunatics like you have convinced me, though, that it's a necessity to oppress chuds, lest they poison the conversation with their bile.
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>>219915930
True. Snyder makes kino with great visuals when he has a good script.
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>>219921396
Snyder's worldview is genuinely cynical and right-wing, even if he himself doesn't realize it
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>>219923761
How is it cynical?
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>>219923652
that's exactly what a brown person would say
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>>219923960
still no hands, means u brown. lmao. >>219923439
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>>219923761
>right-wing is when you don't turn everyone gay and trans
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>>219924029
>>right-wing is when you don't turn everyone gay and trans
Stoic and masculine men and feminine women are "genuinely cynical and right-wing". Also why I love Holly Hunter.
>"It was interesting to be in a movie that had so much testosterone, all these incredibly powerful guys," Hunter said.

>"And I thought that, you know, as a senator, she brought her female-ness to the job in how she listened in her curiosity, in her ability to evaluate," Hunter said of her character. "[It] felt very female to me."

>Hunter had only high praise for 32-year-old Cavill, with whom she spent the most time filming.

>"Henry is utterly adorable ... just a lovely guy," she said. "Utterly lovely."
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could a kingdom come movie be good?
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>>219917693
Daredevil is a groomer homosexual pedophile like Michael Jackson
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>>219924334
how come waterboy is numba wan?
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>>219924485
No, it is a shit comic.
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>>219924645
It's a good movie and it was the most Marvelesque when capeshit was at its peak.
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id like to see a final crisis movie but they dont explain who anybody is or whats going on before the movie comes out
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>>219921396
Snyder has never done anything well
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>>219925137
He's made you seethe.
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>>219923816
He worships Superman's power, not his humanity, and sees Superman's altruism as a painful obligation that is proof of his superiority, not that he's just like everyone else
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>>219925199
He's just a bad director. You don't even actually like him you just pretend to because it's contrarian
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>>219924334
there are so many people that defend the dark knight rises. They are just hypnotized by how good the dark knight was, right?
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>>219915799
>Why did Justice League fail?

Not a single mating press scene with the jewish female oiled up .

Heartbreaking to say the least.
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>>219925219
Superman is not like everybody else; people aren't equal in general. Those are undeniable truths. Superman exists as a more powerful being, someone whom people worship and fear for being, based on their perception, while he himself is searching for a way to live among them. And he fails to love the world perfectly and focuses his love on his woman, on Lois, and seeks virtue through that loving relationship. There's absolutely nothing cynical here. The world is a bad place, people suck, but the way to overcome it is love and, as Snyder would have had it, loving sacrifice (Batman giving his life to save Lois, for Superman to not fall into despair).
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>>219925219
>He worships Superman's power, not his humanity, and sees Superman's altruism as a painful obligation
His Superman is more human than the newest one. He can't be everywhere at once, he can't save the day perfectly, he has his doubts, he has his insecurities, he has his flaws.
In comparison the newest one is able to make the movie stop for him do whatever he wants.
And heroism isn't a clean cut thing. That's what MoS and BvS explore. Sometimes unintended consequences happen. It is a very mature take. If you take your sweet time to save a squirrel someone might get hurt in the meantime.
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>>219925239
Shut the fuck up. You don't know me.
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>>219925561
>>219925574
>Snyder doesn't have a right-wing worldview because a right-wing worldview is objective truth

Reactionaries literally cannot look outside their own ego lol
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>>219926483
>Snyder doesn't have a right-wing worldview because a right-wing worldview is objective truth
If you want to put it like that.
>Reactionaries literally cannot look outside their own ego
I'm not seeing any rebuttals, nor room for them.



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