Why does this pairing enrage zoomers so badly?
>>219917569Bruce is a sick fuck
>>219917569Grow up. You're a 40-year old who obsesses over capeshit cartoons.
>>219917569I’ve been rewatching Batman Beyond and totally forgot that they were banging in that continuity.
>>219917569Because it’s basically a dude fucking his friend’s daughter and a teacher fucking his student at the same time. While technically legal, it’s still creepy and exploitative.
>>219917569Cause he's cucking Robin.
>>219917620Don’t forget that she and Dick dated off and on so it’s sort of like her getting with her ex’s dad.
I ship Batman and Wonder Woman.
>>219917569this enraged everyone, millennials too. terrible blot on otherwise best canon.
>>219917586Im a sick fuck I like a quick fuck
>>219917569bad answer: le power imbalance, le age gapgood answer: because she's not catwoman
>>219917569You don't fuck your son's girl, man
>>219917596>he doesn't watch capekinongmi
Should I know who these cartoon characters are?
>>219917603It's canon for all universes, now.
>>219917586>bruce is sick fuckOfc Batman is God like in bed
>>219918327It’s okay anon, you’re not the target audience for the thread, no shame in that
>>219917569Because everyone knows it's Bruce Timm's fetish for young girls manifest.
>>219917681Woman moment.
>>219917569You don't fuck your best friend's daughter. I don't mind the age difference, in fact it's hot, but preserving Batman and Gordon's dynamic is more important. And it's a middle finger to Dick too.I'm not a zoomer, I'm a millennial who read a lot of comics in the 90s, and I watched the show too.
>>219917569It's not babs x kara.
Z00MER MALES ARE PUSILLANIMOUS EUNUCHS; Z00MER FEMALES ARE FEMINISTIC IDEOLOGIZED AVTOMATA.
>>219918506>some middle aged freak in a batsuit fucks your teenage daughter
>>219918425wasn't his latest project pretty woke?These old creepy coomer libfags must hate living in le current year
>>219918506>You don't fuck your best friend's daughter.My grandpa literally married his best friend's daughter because he begged him to put the little whore in her place.
>>219917620>No batgirl, you cant fall in love with the billionaire, crime fighting, darkseid slapping, brooding, handsome, genius level, philanthropist that fight crime manIt was completely realistic. If anything was a much better deal for Barbara, than what is for Bruce. Bruce could get all the young pussy he wants.
>>219918506>I cant allow this Barbara, you are my daughter, you must date a random drug addict loser or at least be gang banged by men of all skin colors in college!
Men are not allowed to be bigger than women in a relationship according to approximately half the United States population.
>>219917569Because it sucks
>>219917620you forgot about>his adopted son's gf
>>219918753but even the cartoon revealed the relationship wasn't a good idea
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>>219918785that's not what he said you disingenuous fuck.
>>219918736why are you calling your grandma a little whore?
>>219917569Its funny because in the animated series, Bruce is only 7 years older than Barbara. Barbara is in her early 20s and in college. But fans of the show assume that just because Bruce has a deep voice he must be in his 40s and a fatherly figure. Bruce is NOT a father figure in the animated show.
>NO YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH THE 20+ YEAR OLD DAUGHTER OF SOMEONE THAT YOU WORK WITH BECAUSE...................UHHH BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T OKAYWhy not?Is this an American thing or something?
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>>219917569batman reminds of cobson in this picture
>>219919353>but even the cartoon revealed the relationship wasn't a good ideaIt was actually a good idea. Barbara understood Bruce and his need for justice. They both fought together. Bruce could still help the Gotham police department with extra money and funds. The only difference was that Barbara recognized when it was time to retire. Bruce couldn't let the Batman identity go, and start a family with Barbara. Bruce kept crime fighting even in his 40s and 50s even when his body gave out. He also wouldn't let Robin take over as Batman. It became a huge obsession tor Bruce. That's why Barbara left him. Bruce wouldn't let Batman go.
>>219917620>Because it’s basically a dude fucking his friend’s daughter and a teacher fucking his student at the same time. While technically legal, it’s still creepy and exploitative.Bruce was 28Barbara is 21Is there something wrong here?
>>219919521Cuz she was and is. Outright cheated on every one of her husbands and shills for abortion to my cousins.
>>219919521>why are you calling your grandma a little whore?All women are whores during their prime. Even your mom and grandma.
>>219919564It’s very out of character for Bruce. He has Selina and Talia.
>>219919699>every woman is a whore except my mother. Though... she is a womant. Napoleon
The only reason anyone would have a problem with this is because of feminism brainwashing.
>>219919580>no you’re not, I checked
>>219919580>I ADOPTED YOU MADE YOU MY SIDEKICK FOR MY MENTALLY ILL LARP AND THEN I KEKED YOU I OWN YOU DICK
>>219919659Are those ages official? Bruce always seemed to be early to mid 30s when the core Bat family was formed.
>>219917569I didn't mind the pairing. It wasn't even a big deal during the 1990s when this show originally aired. It's only decades later that zoomers are upset. They think any age gap or more than 2 or 3 years is horrible and the guy must be a rapist. Zoomers have no culture of their own and watch old TV shows for their tiktok channel.Meanwhile my Grandpa was a world war 2 veteran and was 10 years old than my Grandma. And she was the one that pursued my Grandpa. According to grandpa, she pursued him hard. Even during the war, she kept writing letters to him and stayed loyal.
>>219919580He is talking about his own dick
>>219917569It's fine, Dick should keep Starfire. Sloppy seconds for a broken man.
>>219919781>during the 1990sCorrect me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure none of the 90s era Batman cartoons established this. It wasn’t until the late 90s/early 00s with Batman Beyond.
Bruce Wayne was nowhere near as old as Commissioner GordonIn the episode I Am the Night where Gordon gets shot, Bruce specifically calls him a father figure and says he is about as old as Thomas Wayne would've been.
>>219919836Barbara is around the same age as Dick so I always figured Bruce is roughly 10-12 years older. Not crazy, but still out of character.
>>219919659There is no way this man is 28
>here's that 28 year old I was telling you about
>>219917620>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T FALL IN LOVE WITH MY DAUGHTER AND MARRY HER, YOU HAVE TO BE MISERABLE FOREVER BECAUSE I'M HECKING DEAD!!!!!!!!
>>219920053>>219920005Uh-oh, zoomie melty
>>219920077I'm a middle aged man
How is this age gap stuff not called out for being the height of sexism?It's people literally saying that 25 year old adult women can't think for themselves or make adult decisions for themselves.
>>219919755>Are those ages official? Yes. In this *specific* cartoon show, Bruce started crime fighting as Batman when he was 18 years old and still attending college. When Bruce is around 26, Barbara joins as Batgirl. But fans, who never watched the show, think that Bruce has a deep voice actor, and therefore the character must be in his mid 30s. They are all completely wrong. 90% of the people in this thread haven't watched the 90s Batman show from start to finish.
>>219920106Bonus points if they parrot the frontal lobe hasn’t been fully developed yet BS
>>219920113Yeah but the original 90s animated series never established them as a couple.
It's funny how outraged /pol/ gets when you tell them that you probably shouldn't sexualize females who were babies when they were grown men.
>>219920175so, something that doesn't apply to this thread at all, then?
>>219920053He looks to be in his late 20s? There's no wrinkles on his face. >>219919755Bruce became Batman when he started college at 18. Bruce met Barbara when he was around 25 years old. She was a senior in High school. So Barbara already 17 years old. Later she goes to college, graduates fast, and comes back to continue fighting as Batgirl. Then begins a relationship with Bruce the age difference is only about 7 to 8 years.
>>2199176810k but dick never got it on with her. He suffered impotence after losing his little clayface girlfriend.
>>219920315>He looks to be in his late 20s? There's no wrinkles on his face.Wow so this guy must only be in his 40s according to you lmfao
>>219920175Yes, Ira, we know you're malding.
>>219920156The 1990s Batman TV show is same continuity as Batman Beyond. That's what the creator says.
>>219920175Its funny how we pretend that young women and girls dont want to be sexualized by older men and its only the hags seething about it after doing the same shit when they were young.
>>219920401Some 45 year olds have gone full grey. Especially police officers. Stress ages you.
>>219920401Based histrionic screecher
>>219920053Anon this is from the 90's/early 2000's People looked older back then
>>219917569Justice for Batwoman, replaced with the younger model
>>219920413Still remember in highschool all the girls lied about their age to go on tinder early That's fucking crazyI don't know if you can do that now (easily) since you'd probably need ID
>>219917569Did anyone actually watch the cartoon? Bruce is like 28, and Barbara was only like 21 or 22. The age difference was small.
>>219920454Anon I was born in the 80sYou're retarded
>>219920881Being born in 1989 doesn't make you an 80s kids
>>219921127You literally posted a pic of my peers >>219920454 I am an actual authority on this. You are retarded.
>>219921224Then you should know people used to look older and taller back in the day.
>>219918425>fetish for young girlsRoastie brains are fascinating
>>219920555I think it's more about the Gordon's daughter part. Bruce dated other young girls before and nobody cared.
>>219921934A small group of weirdo comic fans complained on Twitter about the age gap and started this whole mess. Now to be safe, every comic book writer has Batman be in his mid to late 30s and be a "father figure" to teenage Batgirl and Robin. Ridiculous.
>>219920156>Yeah but the original 90s animated series never established them as a couple.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgMxCy2N1LQ
>>219920458Batwoman is younger, she debuted in 2006
>>219917569It makes zoomers realized that the hot girl they grew up with would rather have the older man that has more wealth then them. Men been hooking up with younger women all through out history. Men been hooking up with younger women not even 10 years ago. The difference is that Zoomers are going up in a era that they're going to get SHIT women when they finally get to that age. It doesn't help that Dick was being retarded.
>>219917569Because the truth of the matter is that when the people that worked on the show were growing up, it was more socially acceptable for Bruce to date Barbara than for Dick to date Barbara.But ever since the 80's, DC has been making Barbara younger and younger every time they do a reboot until she's finally the same age as Dick.
>>219919699Based
>>219922272the ones bitching about age gaps are millennial harpies that got radicalized by tumblrYoung men have always complained about age gaps not being fair, but we never pretended it was a criminal offense. I was born in 85 and clearly remember dudes in my high school complaining when a girl was dating a 20-something dude just because he had disposable income and a car
>>219918506You fucking do fuck your best friend daughter. Why the fuck would a father give his daughter to a fucking stranger who has nothing going for him? Meanwhile you have a single younger friend that you know personally. He's Well-off and you can trust him to take good care of your daughter. Remember, kid. The daughter would also KNOW the best friend and be friends with them too, this wouldn't be a fucking isolated event. The Daughter would be a happy with it too.
>>219922381Yeah, why didn't you do the same when you where in your 20s?
>>219922442because by the time I was in my 20s, dating a minor was already enough to get you firedWhat I do regret is not having dated girls 18-23 when I was in my early 30's. Some did show interest, even just for the money, but I thought it was creepy back then
>>219917569Anyone else think Bruce kinda looks like Cobson here?
>>219922202Kek which iteration was this from? I miss Bruce Timm horniness.
>>219922324>she kissed the incel to shut him upWhy does this never happen to me?
batman x wonder woman is kino though
>>219918506Gordon tried to hook Barbara up with the corrupt cop who ended up framing him for murder
>>219917620It’s only creepy if they break up, it’s based if he marries her
>>219919699I want to dispute this but I cannot.
>>219922597>What I do regret is not having dated girls 18-23 when I was in my early 30'sYou can still date them now
>>219917620It's based and hot for both of them for those reasons
>>219918506>You don't fuck your best friend's daughter. Since when is Batman best friends with Gordon? There's a 25 year age difference between them.
>>219920401I'm not even 40 yet and my hair is already losing its color
>>219922854That isn't normal
>>219920321You're getting your Robins crossed that was Tim Drake in the Clayface episode.
>>219919699Hot
>>219922876It’s extremely normal for guys to start seeing some grey coming in during their 30s. Now if you’re almost fully grey before 40, that’s more unusual.
why are people discussing underage dating? In the cartoon Barbara didnt date Bruce until she was an adult.There are even clips of Barbara flirting with Bruce on the phone. Bruce pretends to get static and hang up.Alfred and Robin are all for it. Alfred wants Bruce to find some woman...any woman at this point. And Barbara is a great choice
>>219922937>It’s extremely normal for guys to start seeing some grey coming in during their 30sI've half a dozen grey hairs since I was 26, I'm 30 now but they haven't spread, I think they're more due to stress than aging.
>>219919659>>219920005Comic books have never had a strict unifying canon or timeline, but generally speaking, the post-Crisis Bruce Wayne leaves Gotham in his teens/early 20s and disappears for 7-8 years before returning and becoming Batman. He spends a few years fighting the mafia before the genuine psychos and supervillains show up and he takes Dick Grayson on as Robin, with the extended Bat Family being introduced over the next 5ish years after that. Any story that features a veteran Batman usually frames him as having been at the job for about a decade. So if Batman is hooking up with Batgirl, he's probably pushing 40 and she's 25 at most. Most people find that distasteful considering Batman was in a position of authority over his friend's daughter
>>219923255I’m just saying in general it’s pretty common to start seeing some throughout your 30s. You can’t use famous actors as a reference since they all have their hair professionally dyed.
>>219923255It's a combination of genetics, age, and stress. Your stressed body creates cortisol. Cortisol burns through melanin pigment in your hair. Each person hair has a limited amount melanin pigment they are born with in each of their hair follicles. That's why people with stressful jobs get grey hair early.
>>219919580>I'll have to congratulate my dickIs the only version I can recall.
>>219922937No. It isn't.
>>219923378Let me guess, your source is your own anecdotal evidence? See >>219923308
>>219917569>zoomersIt was despised from day one dipshit
>>219923284>Bruce Wayne leaves Gotham in his teens/early 20s and disappears for 7-8 years before returning and becoming Batman.This is silly. 30+ years old is already declining athletic ability for humans. There's no way Bruce became Batman at 30+ years old. Bruce definitely started earlier. The cartoon says he started when he was 18. And was training hard to learn fighting skills before that when he was just a teenager. That makes so much more sense. He spends his late teens and 20s gaining experience as Batman. 10 years to become a seasoned veteran. Starting at 30 years old like you suggest is silly. A 35 year old rookie Batman? Lmao.
>>219923477Yeah and I always assumed Dick Grayson was like 15/16 when Bruce started training him as Robin, so he would’ve been early 30s tops.
>>219923477Batman HAS to spend close to a decade traveling the Earth and becoming an expert martial artist and detective. He's at least 25, a man grown with some life experience under his belt.
>>219923398>only six to 23 percent of 50-year-olds have primarily gray hair. And only around one percent of the population is believed to have gray or white hair.>It is believed that the overall average age when human hair starts to turn gray equates to a person’s early 40s.
>>219923575>Batman HAS to spend close to a decade traveling the Earth>DecadeSays who?
>>219923557Actually according to the Cartoon, Bruce is 20 years old when he adopts the 10 year old Dick Grayson.
>>219923935The important thing is that you fed him attention.
>>219923935>>219924007Okay, none of that changes my assertion that it’s not uncommon to start seeing a few greys throughout your 30s. What did you think I meant by that?
>>219922763I'm in my 40s dude, it's obvious women that age find me beyond gross now, the only ones showing interest want a sugar relationship that is kept behind closed doorsSeriously, my best advice to dudes is to focus on your finances in your 20's and just date young chicks in your early 30's. It's doable, and the chicks are actually ok with it, don't listen what old harpies have to say about it
>>219923948Because Bruce Wayne becomes a world-class martial artist and detective BEFORE becoming Batman. That isn't something someone can do overnight.
>>21992398920 seems like an odd choice desu. Obviously the continuities are all over the place, but I think a 15 year age difference seems like the best way to go. Bruce being 40 when Dick is 25 and becomes Nightwing sounds like a nice sweet spot.
>>219923358>That's why people with stressful jobs get grey hair early.Bullshit, I'm in my in my mid 40s without a single grey strand and my job for the state is to literally end people's lives.
>>219924320The anecdotal executioner lol
>>219917569This was controversial long before them you retard
>>219919633Old Batman was pretty fucking cool tho. Bruce's obsession gave us lots of kino. It is a shame he was so autistic that Barbara left him. I guess he got prime pussy when it mattered most
>>219924231>it's obvious women that age find me beyond gross nowNo it isn't. Some young women want to seriously date men in their 40's or even 50's. You'll never know who you might meet if you don't try.
>>219919580So she was cheating on Dick with Bruce? Why is Bruce going to say congrats to Dick?
>>219924465>met online >long distance Typical redditor shit. That doesn’t count.
>>219924092>post proof that it is quite literally statistically uncommon (literally sub 25% by 50s)>then there's your fucking retarded postMoron.
>>219924463Alfred trying to talk bats out of fighting the Mutant Leader was kino.
>>219924571Again, how could you possibly interpret this >>219923308 in that way? I was very clearly not claiming that it’s normal to be completely grey in your 30s. Are you drunk?
>>219924572>the lead up with him weighing the pros and cons, reminding himself that he's old and even in his prime he'd struggle, only to have his thoughts trail off and the next page is him leaping out of the Batmobile
>>219924513Here's another example. That subreddit is mostly women because the rest of reddit hates age gap relationships. There will always be some amount of younger women who are legitimately attracted to older men completely independent of money.
>>219924602>I’m just saying in general it’s pretty common to start seeing some throughout your 30sExcept it isn't. Less than a quarter of the adult population, potentially even less than 1/10th of the adult population experiences that.
>>219924770>And only around one percent of the population is believed to have gray or white hair.This doesn’t even make sense. Source?
>trying to talk about batman>some autist is shitting up the thread because he can't accept he has poor reading comprehension
>>219924808Fully gray or white, dumbass.
>>219924842Right, which isn’t what I was saying. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.
>>219924257He's not disputing the training. He's disputing your claim that he started in his 20s. Bruce never attended high school and had private tutors. With no distractions, Bruce could have easily tested out of highschool at age 15, and started training as a teenager. Then began being Batman in his 20s.
This entire thread is proof we need to rangeban every non-western country.
>>219924908Yeah but only if you’re good looking like that guy.
>>219924858The 6% to 23% state isn't about fully grey or white you actual retard.
>>219923358I have very grey hair at 40, I don't think it has anything to do with stress. You can dye it but it's a major pain in the ass - it's like spraying black ink everywhere and cleaning up after it - and the chemicals definitely can't be good for you, but it can be done. Unlike baldness/receding hairline there are certain upsides to grey hair. Grey hair signals wisdom, experience, a level head. The people with most power in this world have grey hair - undeserved as that may be, you can take advantage of that. You are also given some kind of extra I think "reverence". The downsides are you might be seen as weaker, slower. It's too bad you can't have grey hair for some things and then switch to dark for others.
>>219924908Do parents usually attend dances with their kids? That so odd. When I was in middle school, out school had a rule that parents of the student were not allowed to attend dances. The school wanted give kids their own space.
>>219924980I’m going to rephrase for clarity:It’s not uncommon for 30+ year olds to spot a grey hair or two coming in. That’s it, that’s all I was saying in the first place.
>>219925050>It’s not uncommon for 30+ year olds to spot a grey hair or two coming in.And it literally is. Less than 25% of adults up to age 50 have any signs of greying. That is the statistical definition of uncommon.
>>219925085A stray grey hair isn’t the same thing as a full patch or premature greying. You’re acting like I said something bizarre.
>>219925138You can backpeddle as much as you want. It won't work. Ever.
>>219925085>Less than 25% of adults up to age 50 have any signs of greying. According to who? Which ethnicity? Which country?
>>219925203I’ve never backpedaled once. You just have poor reading comprehension.
>>21992508525% is not "the statistical definition of uncommon" at all... "the statistical definition of uncommon" - what kind of drugs are you on? If you're not on drugs and you're not incredibly retarded I suggest you see a doctor asap and bring what you said to him, see if he can work out what's wrong.
>>219925230https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22716034/Now do your next cope.
>>219917569Rage? Nah. It's just the kind of thing Batman would never do. They never even do anything with it because it just feels like somebody got their fanfiction pairing put in the show. They could have colored this hair silver and called her Silver St.Cloud and nobody would have batted an eye.
>guy has bad genetics and is greying super early>tries to cope by acting like it's commonplace>gets btfo multiple times despite doing typical shit like pretending not to understand plain english, challenging sources, backpeddling, spamming, etc>now will seethe until the thread implodeslmfaoooooooo rip thread
>>219925299Did you even read you own link? At no point does it say that it’s uncommon to show any sort of greying prior to age 50.
>>219925340You can’t challenge a source when it wasn’t provided, anon.
>>219919659Tas batman always seemed 35 to 45 to me
>>219925340What age are you? You sound like you're about 17, that's the mental age I would give you.
>>219917569Everyone dislikes this pairing, its just very unnatural and forced. It just happens to be Bruce Timm's personal ship so he tried really hard to make it into the canon
>>219924908why is she blushing so hard?
>>219925047it's a daddy daughter dance for dads and their daughters. americans like to show off how hot their kids are to the other dads. it's the culture
>>219925558There is nothing unnatural and forced.She was crazy about Batman to the point of becoming Batgirl, she then learns he is not only handsome but also rich. Sure, she dated her son but between his dweeb adopted son and him? She'd fuck him in a heartbeat. She is called Batgirl, after all, not Robingirl.
>>219917620Zoomer dudes will genuinely describe a cartoon as “creepy and exploitative” with a straight face HAVAHAHAHAwhat a fucking effeminate, corny generation
>>219917971YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKIN HOE
>>219917569It makes him eskimo brothers with his adopted son.
>>219917620if they form a great team and have a great chemistry i literally don't give a shit, she is an adult
>>219917569The oft lambasted "The Batman" cartoon that could only ever live in the shadow of the Timm series did one thing good imo, and that was having Batgirl be a thing before Robin. It gave the character way more time to shine than BTAS ever gave her. I think it was 2 or 3 seasons before Robin even showed up. This batman actually looked like a 25 yr old, but batgirl was 13/14 in it.
>>219922850>There's a 25 year age difference between them.Why the fuck would that matter in a friendship between men?
How does Batman even have the time to date anyone?
>>219917569Damn, Bruce looked like shit in that art style.
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>>219917569I for one am disgusted about the fact that she's not a little girl
>>219917620Its more like fucking your the daughter of your older boss>>219917620Bro, if this was real life, Gordon would have probably tried to get her to date Bruce because of all the extra gibs the police would get from it
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>>219919580Imagine how much sex went down in the Justice League HQ during downtimeThink about how little there is to do there when not training which is only a few hours a day.They probably put the Olympics Village to shame.>>219920005Look how the young men in the show look like when they have a good jawline>>219920401>be police commissioner in the worst city in the state>crime so rampant and insane its like every week another super powered asshole is threatening the entire city with new ones appearing like once a month doing billions in damage>cops bought off>batman is barely a deterrent to even low level crime>the only reason the place still runs is Bruce Wayne basically socializing it all with his donations that could stop at any moment if he gets killed which might happen as he has been held hostage multiple times alreadyI wonder why his hair went white.>>219920413I remember always having to question the girls on dating apps because half of them were visibly underaged
>>219923284He was in a position of authority just by being a big strong man to her weak womanAnyone who says a relationship is built on equality is either a man who doesn't control the relationship or a woman lying about controlling it.
>>219919781>It wasn't even a big deal during the 1990s when this show originally aired.Except on the DVD commentary tracks, Bruce Timms says that fans were upset about it. and this was in the late 90s. He did it because he wanted trashy drama on his show. https://streamable.com/bqh3s4
>>219927706>There is nothing unnatural and forced.Timm, your love of cuckoldry is just as wrong too.
>>219924257You can become a black belt in TaiKwonDo in 2years going to like 1 or two sessions a week that were about 1-1.5 hours eachHe lived at the places he trained in.You could become a master within a summer of constant training and don't forget he is literally obsessive about his parents deaths so he would go the extra mile.In the time it takes to get an associates degree Bruce could've probably learned everything he needs to know to be BatmanWith his wealth he could realistically have a mentor get him ready to run wayne enterprises for half a week then jet off the other side of the world to train non-stop be ready to be Batman before being ready to run the company
Silly goyim, there are no rules except for the "don't kill one" and even that must be viewed on a case by case basis. Especially true when you're a billionaire batman.>regular bum kills another bum in skid row? no one cares>african kills another african in overpopulated africa? no one cares>billionaire dressed as a bat kills a street thug? bad, front page news>billionaire dressed as a bat kills the joker, who has been trying to poison and blow up the city for decades? honestly, worth it and he should be forgiven in a sane society>billionaire dressed as a bat bangs his fellow team mate who is also young fertile and hot? good, he should also impregnate her with 5+ offspringTake the moral relativism pill.
>>219917620>Because it’s basically a dude fucking his friend’s daughter and a teacher fucking his student at the same time. While technically legal, it’s still creepy and exploitative.What a load of performative bullshit. If you truly believed this you'd want it to be illegal, so you're just a disingenuous faggot.>I don't think pedophilia or rape should be illegal but it's like heckin icky!
Bruce Timm and his takes on Batman, like making Babs a dumb bimbo and Bruce cucking Dick, are what lowers the quality of the DCAU hard. Couldn't even restrain himself and ruined Batman Beyond as a result.
>>219932781Why do people only blame Bruce Timm when there was a whole ass team that was equally culpable? How come Paul Dini or Alan Burnett or Dwayne McDuffie never take any heat for it?
>>219932918>How come Paul Dini or Alan Burnett or Dwayne McDuffie never take any heat for it?Because Timm clearly had the most power and was the one who pushed for it in the first place and got everyone else to go along with it >>219932485
>>219917620Yeah I'm sure that has never ever happened before.Most of the time is the girl the one initiating this.
>>219933197>Most of the time is the girl the one initiating this.Two wrongs don’t make a right. Bruce is way too disciplined and methodical to think with his cock like that.
WHO CUMS INSIDE HIS FEMALE PROTEGE?BATMANWHO KEKS HIS OWN ADOPTED SONBATMANWHO BICYCLE KICKED BARBARA GORDON DOWN A STAIRCASE WHILE SHE WAS SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANTSTILL BATMAN
>>219933523>woman is attracted to you >no this is evil and wrongMindbroken beyond repair.
>>219917569Batman '66 created this relationship originally, but the ages and dynamics were different from what is currently established for this to make any sense.
>>219932705bingo
Melanie > Dana
>>219933669She's a Tenout of Ten10
>>219927706>There is nothing unnatural and forced.>She was crazy about Batman to the point of becoming Batgirl, she then learns he is not only handsome but also rich. Sure, she dated her son but between his dweeb adopted son and him? She'd fuck him in a heartbeat. She is called Batgirl, after all, not Robingirl.It's 100% true Barbs wanted to fuck Bruce.But it's completely unthinkable that Bruce would fuck Barbara, it's a complete contradiction of his history and character, he denies personal entanglements because he only cares about 'the mission', that's the essence of Batman and more generally he's portrayed as this very serious, aloof, and rational type. It's out of character as fuck.
>>219933523>. Bruce is way too disciplined and methodical to think with his cock like that.Basically.>billionaire who goes to his grave alone as a hyper disciplined monk who spent his entire alone leading a life of strict observance to superhuman moral personal code instead of indulging in the incredible hedonic potential of his wealth and name>well uhh yeah sometimes you're just horny and fuck your friend's underage daughter and your son's girlfriendYou can't be both at the same time
>>219933634I’m trying to keep this thread on topic and making it about Batman, not irl.
>>219917620hot and based
>>219933801Batman fucks, but him and Barbara getting together in the Timmverse just seems out of character. He can bang Catwoman and Talia all he wants.
>>219933523>Two wrongs don’t make a rightBut two wongs can make a wright.
How much was their relationship confirmed in the DCAU? Obviously there's the sex scene in The Killing Joke movie, but was there anything in the original Timmverse? I remember one episode of New Batman Adventures Barbara had a fantasy about being Batgirl that ended with her kissing Batman, but was there ever anything on Bruce's end that made it visibly canon? Dialogue in Batman Beyond from Commissioner Barbara?
>>219934045The real question is how many Justice League Unlimited members did Shazam have sex with
>>219934045Batman Beyond confirms that they got romantically involved after Dick became Nightwing and moved to Bludhaven. Before that, I don’t think it was ever a thing.
>>219934171Do you remember what episode/dialogue?
>>219934260I want to say season 2:https://youtu.be/XLNXY3IOg30?feature=shared
>>219934045Barbara has only one scene in Mystery of the Batwoman. She calls Bruce from college. The whole scene is deliberately awkward (Tim Drake is in the car and he says something like "leave me out of this") and I think it has the subtext that they have gotten together but Bruce is trying to distance himself.
>>219929069>Why the fuck would that matter in a friendship between men?Because you said BEST friend. Not just a regular friend. Batman might respect Gordon and they might be work colleagues and maybe even friends on some level. But best friends ? Nah . Batman is probably best friends with no one. Or if he had to have a best friends, then it might be superman.
>>219917569It was better in the Bronze Age when she was closer to Bruce’s age. Not the the DCAU when she’s the same age as Dick.
>>219932485>Bruce Timms says that fans were upset about it. and this was in the late 90s. Even back then it was a small minority of "fans"n that were upset. The majority were indifferent to it.
>>219933747>he denies personal entanglements because he only cares about 'the mission'That doesn't mean he never scores.
>>219924257>Because Bruce Wayne becomes a world-class martial artist and detective BEFORE becoming Batman. That isn't something someone can do overnight.Nope. Bruce Wayne easily could have started training since he was child or teenager. He never went to a traditional school or high school. Bruce had private tutors his entire life until college. Bruce was obsessed with learning to fight and train and was a billionare. He easily could have learned what he needed to learn if he trained as a young teen. Starting as Batman in his 30s is way too late. In the time it takes to get a high school degree. Bruce could have trained and traveled the world to learn from masters .
>>219934433Um, anon, I think you misunderstood his post. You’re both saying the same thing.
>>219933747I don't agree. If Batman only cares about 'the mission' THEN HE MUST IMPREGNATE BATGIRL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
>>219933747You obviously have never been in a situation like that before.Temptations of the flesh effect everyone.No matter how stoic you are, eventually you slip up
>>219933747>But it's completely unthinkable that Bruce would fuck Barbara, it's a complete contradiction of his history and character, he denies personal entanglements because he only cares about 'the mission',This is a complete lie and clearly you never watched the show. Bruce wasn't some emotionless soldier. He was someone who struggled to continue being Batman. Bruce had relationships with women and slept with them throughout the show. He even slept with some female villains, tried to reform them, and have them be good people.The problem was that most of these women wanted Bruce to eventually give up being Batman and start a family with them. Or the woman was too obsessed with being a criminal, and wouldn't settle down with him (Catwoman). There was entire arc in the TV show where Bruce emotionally struggled with continuing to be Batman because he found love and wanted to settle down.
>>219934626>There was entire arc in the TV show where Bruce emotionally struggled with continuing to be Batman because he found love and wanted to settle down.Pretty sure your pic is from Mask of the Phantasm, not the show.
batgirl is a sluuut
>>219934626Bruce always needs to laser focus on buck breaking Catwoman
>>219933853>Batman fucks, but him and Barbara getting together in the Timmverse just seems out of character. He can bang Catwoman and Talia all he wants.1. Barbara was in her mid 20s. She wasn't some little girl. Bruce was in his early 30s. A 7 year difference.2. Bruce thought having sex with Barbara would calm her down and they could continue with the mission. Instead it made Barbara more clingy to him.3. Bruce did eventually develop feelings for her. But he couldn't let go of being Batman. 4. Barbara still loved him and wanted to have his kids. But if Bruce didn't want to let go and pass the Batman mantle to Nightwing , then Barbara decided that she needed move on.
>>219934700>Pretty sure your pic is from Mask of the Phantasm, not the show.Same continuity and its canon.
>>219934751Yeah but you described it as being an arc on the show. It’s not, it’s a separate movie.
>>219934774The show implies he had relationships with multiple women. Including Zatanna.
>>219934751>>219934626>Really, Bruce, it's almost like you pick them because you know there's no chance of a serious relationship. The party scene in Phantasm implies that Bruce has been stunted in relationships since he broke up with Angela.
>>219934853Andrea*
>>219934853>Asian chick is drawn with literal black insect eyes kek
>>219919724>TaliaI've seen a lot of people cry about Bruce and Selina being a couple, but based on the little bit of Batman I've seen outside of the animated adaptions, Talia seems like a worse partner for him and I've hated every single Ra's Al Ghul episode of BTAS and her by extension. Selina on the other had seems way more balanced and has some good qualities.Sorry for my ignorance, but I just don't get Talia. Period.
>>219934923Talia is pretty much this.
>>219934892>White chick is drawn with literal Veronica Lake hair over faceDo you find that funny as well?
>>219934951No. Should I? I don’t know who Veronica Lake is.
>>219934967She was a classic Hollywood actress whose signature look has her hair draped over her eye. Inspired Jessica Rabbit
I remember seeing The Killing Joke in theaters and some black guy next to me saying "Sheeiittt what the fuck" when Bruce banged Barbara
>>219935141That sounds less like something that really happened so much as a white guy writing a stereotypical black comic relief.
>>219934923Talia is not wife material. She's too obsessed with running her assassin organization, obeying her father, and killing people. Setting all that aside, her personality is too prideful and is willing to betray you if it suits her goals. She wouldn't give up the assassin life.Selina is an adrenaline junkie. She thinks life as a wife is boring. 99% of all stories where Selina marries Bruce and settles down.. ends up with Selina leaving him and returning to be Cat Woman.Zatanna was a decent choice but shes too involved with magic and Bruce hates magic. He hates things without science and logic. Wonder Woman is ageless and will outlive Bruce. Her family and island rejects men. It's also questionable if she can even have kids.Other women he dated accepted Bruce, but couldn't accept Batman. They demanded he give up the Batman perona.The ONLY woman who had a stable background, no weird quirks,stable personal life, and accepted both his personalities (Bruce and Batman) was Barbara.
>>219935199>stereotypical black comic relief.NTA but it becomes real in movie theaters. Watching a horror movie in a black neighborhood was one of the funniest experiences I had in my life.
>>219934950Point taken.
>>219935199I'm not kidding, the black dude next to me was genuinely perplexed about Bruce fucking Barbara
>>219935235For sure. It can be hilarious watching movies with black people in the audience. I remember seeing The Illusionist, and when Jessica Biel turned around, some black girl started hooting about her booty.But The Killing Joke in theaters? That was a Fandango event, not a real release. Made less than 5 million dollars. Only super fans actually went out and saw it in the cinema. I know, I was one of them. >>219935244Did you really sit near a black guy who was both>Finally! Bruce Timm adapting Alan Moore's seminal work with the generational best voice work of Conroy and Hamill, a match made in heaven marriage of the best of The Dark Age's Joker stories with the talent of the DCAU!AND>Sheeit, my nigga Bruce bout to get on that thicc Batgirl pussy
>>219917569Unironically, Barbara was probably the most stable and loving option that Bruce had for a waifu. She supported him, fought alongside him, never gave him a headache, and never questioned him (unless she was horny). She wasnt a fan favorite like cat woman, but she was the most stable option for Bruce.
>>219935493Bruce did have his heart broken by a sexy redhead after all.
>>219917569I genuinely don't know why a 22 year old dating a 29 year old enrages zoomers. Maybe because they are jealous and want to also feel loved?
He looks 55 in OP
>>219929049>but batgirl was 13/14 in it.She was 16 initially and in college in the final season. She was just really short.
>>219936062>She was 16 Close. She was 17 .
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>>219917569Fun fact. When they first introduce Batgirl in the cartoon show, she was meant to be a potential love interest for Bruce. They wanted her to be a love rival to Cat Woman and have them bicker. But the fans loved Cat Woman way way more. It wasn't even close. The writers didn't expect fans to love Cat Woman so much and ignore Batgirl. To keep Batgirl interesting, they aged up Robin in between seasons. You'll notice that Robin goes from being a 9 year old, to suddenly being the same age as Barbara. Yet Barbara roughly stays the same age. Remember Barbara originally was around 8 years older than Robin. But no one remembers that.
>>219936237>Remember Barbara originally was around 8 years older than Robin.And a congresswoman. And she dated Superman.
>>219936237I don’t recall Barbara being in the original TAS incarnation at all. Wasn’t she only introduced when they switched over to The Adventures of Batman & Robin and changed the art style?
>>219920106women are harder on other women than they are on men, believe me they are very judgmental of the woman in the relationship.
>>219920005>>219920053It's called having high test, zoomies.
>>219917569It is weird in terms of their mentor relationship and her being the police chief's daughter, who is also being kept a secret from him.It would be like if your friend was openly mentoring his bosses daughter among a group of other mentees, and they were also secretly screwing behind their bosses back. It comes off sleazy and you question what else they are hiding with their other relationships.
>>219935539imagine jessica chastain as andrea
>>219917620You deserve a punch on the diaphragm for writing such nonsense.
>>219936908Have you ever not considered that women like dating and being in relationships with older men? I'm surprised you are so ignorant of this.
>>219917569In the cartoon, Bruce was only around 28 years old. Barbara was around 21 or 22. The creators of the show specifically made Bruce younger.
I love how fans complain about age gaps with Batman and Batgirl. But those same fans stay completely quiet with Nightwing having a thing Cat Woman. She's like a decade older than Nightwing. Hypocrisy!
Bruce, it's me Barbara
>>219937654>fans complain about age gapsthey arent fans, theyre feminists and onions cucks looking to score points with feminists
>>219917569No one seemed to complain when Nightwing got with Harley Quinn for a while.
>>219937731Nightwing even asked her to wear her old outfit.
>>219922272I'm 1996 and have dated/slept with zoomers. There is no wonder they are seething over it. Zoomer girls are literally just fuck toys with insane mental health problems.
>>219937654>>219937731>Batman bangs Batgirl? >Nightwing bangs Catwoman and Harley QuinnOkay I'd say they are even.
>>219917620>it’s still creepy and exploitativeNo, that depends entirely on the actual dynamics of their relationship and the individuals themselves. It is not an inherent characteristic. Engage in deprogramming, and embrace critical thinking.
>>219917620>it’s still creepy and exploitative.Barbara is a legal adult. She can decide to sleep with whoever she wants. Just like how Nightwing can sleep with Harley Quinn.
>>219934626>retard's example is from before Bruce became Batman in truth and he has never once seriously considered women sinceno, you
>>219940231Its hilarious that Bruce having sex bothers you so much. Does a fictional character having sex make you so jealous? Lmao.
>>219919659My last exgf and I have about the same age gap as that. I felt nothing towards it, after she is legal(a topic of its own) then it's just a question of if she is mature enough to be dating an older guy. If she is, great, if not, it mostly just looks bad on the guy for degrading himself to a less mature girl
>>219917620>and a teacher fucking his student at the same timeThis never made sense to me (outside the school system) if you're teaching someone and form a bound wouldn't that be a great basis for a relationship?
>>219919781Zoomerchad here. I have never dated a girl where our age gap wasn't at least 5-6 years apart or more. Unironically as I get older they stay the same lmao. The age gap screeching is just reaching a fever pitch from the usual crowd of low value women and pussy men who back them up, even if just in the moment. Real niggas just take what they want and every other zoomer suffers what they must. I've only ever dated girls seriously and with the intent for marriage as well, dating for fun is basically homosexuality. When zoomers see that you are serious in the relationship they back off real quick, but as I said at the beginning, this is how it's always been with people. The screeching has just reached new highs
>>219938265That is literally true partnership and brotherhood, women are made for sharing between closest friends.
>>219936908I've seen this happen multiple times in the friend groups of older relatives: friend gets with another friend's daughter. Not best friends, just in the friend group. In more than one case it lead to a marriage. I never asked anyone what they thought about it, but I sure found it weird. Maybe it's a generational thing? >You can marry this guy because I've vetted him/I trust you with my daughter?Is this what foids call "the ick"? Is that what I'm feeling?
>>219936062>She was 16 initially>She was just really short.
>>219940866>Back in the day, age gaps weren't considered a big deal for middle and lower class...as long he could take take care of her.>Modern day women screech about this. >Suddenly age gaps aren't allowed in modern day dating.>But rich people and celebrities still do it all the time. >Celebs and famous people DM random girls on Instagram and Snapchat and fly them out on "vacations" to Dubai and yacht trips.>Modern day women keep quiet and say nothing.Call it conspiracy theory, but I am half convinced this was just all part of one big plan to remove the competition. Remove the middle and lower class men from the dating pool. This give more options to rich people to choose beautiful women around the woman. Drake DM'ing a random hot girl in a small town is more likely to succeed if she isn't dating or married to an older man from the same town. Rich and wealthy men = get more options to choose from hot girls. Women = filter out undesirable men. Gives them a change to seduce rich men and become a mistress or booty call. Even if it means more competition from other hot women.
>>219917569You don't have sex with young girls, in fact you don't have sex at all. Keep posting cartoon characters to roleplay online.
>>219917681>>219920321>these brainless secondary idiots are the ones defending thisit figures
>>219917569Nightwing smashed Harley and Catwoman. I'm not sure why people arent more upset about that.
>>219937731KWABThat entire movie was a weird fetish fever dream from an increasingly senile and horny Bruce Timm
>>219941580>That entire movie was a weird fetish fever dream from an increasingly senile and horny Bruce TimmIn some comicbooks, Nightwing and Harley fell in love and got married. So it's not exactly a fever dream.
>>219918506>but preserving Batman and Gordon's dynamicGordon is older to Bruce; it's ok
