Dorne beat the Targaryens every time lol editionOld thread:>>219876680
Why are the (((Targs))) so bad at fighting?
>wins
>>219929442>loses 50,000 men to Dornish rebels>dies>Dorne wins againlmao
>>219929478I'm sure that'll help you sleep over the sound of the dragon banner waving in the wind over Sunspear.
>>219929440Ahhhh Dorne....home...
>>219929442>conquer Dorne>kills over 70,000 of them>does it all without dragonsHe's so based.
>>219929404TAOOBA!
>>219929478Who cares? All that matters is killing Dornish scum, and every Dornish "victory" results in the entire country getting burnt to the ground. Realistically both invasions of Dorne would have resulted in hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths.
>>219929440I want to see a dragon turn sand into glass
>we did it Prince Martel, we freed Dorne!
For Dorne.
>>219929760Just from reading about the first invasion in Fire&Blood, I'm honestly not sure if it's even realistic to expect anyone in the country survived. It's such a dry country, I feel like all Aegon would have to do is burn the farmland along the major rivers and they'd have to sue for peace.
>>219929905The Dornish would've just resorted to cannibalism
How did a dude without dragons conquer Dorne anyways while guys with dragons couldnt
>>219929937Daeron was just built different. He did it as a 13 year old too.Yeah, Dorne got mogged by a dragonless zoomer.
Maester Aemon's actor was an absolute legend; I don't think anyone else on the show captured the essence of his character better than him. R.I.P.
>>219929937Spammed dudes, lost anyway and died.
>>219930090>lost anywayStrange way of saying "won"Must be an accent thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amxgo0Dk7oAI was rewatching old scenes and actually laughed out loud here. Jeor says "don't look so terrified" as if that's the fucking emotion we're supposed to read from Kit Harrington basedfacing at the screen lmao. At no point in this series did this man learn how to act.
>>219929442lmao
>>219929585Based
>>219930333This doesn't really work because he's a zoomer. You should only do this for characters who can be caricatured as a boomer.
>>219929637THAT'S TAOOBA!
>>219930333>daeron wins just like how the U.S always winsBased.USA! USA! USA! USA!
Would you rather be gelded or join the Night's Watch? Bearing in mind that, in universe, most choose the knife.
>>219930490I'm not gonna risk dying of infection so I'll take the black.
>>219930333kek
>>219930517Post her giant tits please
>>219929404What is this thread about?
>>219930490Are you a fucking woman? A man would endure damn near anything to keep his dick. I'd gladly waste away in a frozen hellscape just to keep it.
>>219930557Dornish coping about getting mogged by the Targaryen rizzler
>>219930110gormless
why are daerons so useless
>>219930542
>>219929404Are they back for season 2?
>>219930734He's got ron in his name and everyone knows Rons in fantasy are useless cunts
which house had the best/worst armor in the shows?
>>219931071The Lannister armor is suitably resplendent, and fairly practical, but the Japanese inspiration is perhaps a touch silly. Idk, I never cared much for standardized armor in a mediaeval setting anyway; feels wrong.
>>219931171>standardized armorThe Lannisters were one of the few houses who could maybe afford it.
What did this vampire mean by this?>the Dreadfort will soon be overrun with Boltons. Ramsay will kill them all, of course. That's for the best. I will not live long enough to see new sons to manhood, and boy lords are the bane of any House. Walda will grieve to see them die, though.
>>219929478>Dornefags struggle with the concept of time
Why do the Ironborn never sack Dorne?They're even poorer and their women uglier than on the Iron Isles
>>219931225A hog and his sow.
>>219931225Roose is one of the most interesting antagonists in the books, I think George might have something much more interesting planned for him that he never told the showrunners about. But I don't think he's some vampire. As cold as that line is, I think it demonstrates he's still human when he thinks about his legacy and his wife.
>>219931071Fossoway
>>219931225I think Roose wants to be rid of Ramsay, Roose just tells Theon this because he knows that he will till Ramsay everything he tells him
Should I read the knight of the seven kingdoms books? I read a lot but I've never read any fantasy
>>219931447It's insane how much the insistence on the dark, grey look contrasts so strikingly with the atmosphere of excitement in a medieval tourney. Very sick people made this show.
>>219931512Yes. Learn2read, faggot.
>>219931512They're (predictably) unfinished
>>219931512Yes. They're good and so short, so why not? But they're not very representative of fantasy, there's hardly anything supernatural at all in them except for a couple of characters with prophetic dreams.
Turns out all you have to do to revive a dead general is mock the Dornish, which isn't difficult as they have literally zero redeeming qualities.
>>219931513maybe because the trial of the seven is not meant to be whimsical you fucking idiot
>>219931670If you can't convey or grasp the gravity of a situation without it being in greyscale and featuring overcast skies you're a fucking brainlet.
>>219931576George was unconsciously drawing from his ancestral blood memories when he wrote them; his ancestors dying at the hands of savage Welshmen and Saracens.
>>219931758baelor emerging from the fog is one of the coolest things ever you dumb faggot
>>219931820>22.4% ashkenazi jew>hates sand peoplechecks out
>>219931839>b-but the kewlness, colour is whimsical and stuffYou don't have to reiterate that your brain is very small, I could tell the second you started opining.
>>219931820More like his ancestors being driven out of Spain in 1492.
>>219931924>>219932018The Jew in George is found in his coprophilia: his bizarre fascination with the more unsavory aspects of life. But that's not all he is. Beneath that there's a guy who just wants to write a classic tale of good vs evil; albeit in an unusually edgy way.
Dragons don't fly too good in Dorne
>>219931225>I will not live long enough to see new sons to manhoodjeez Roose, don't be such a debbie downer
I don't really understand Dorne, I always thought it was supposed to be sand people, but you have pale blondes, the daynes etc. Just seems like a muttland for some reason.
>>219932368It's has both normal andals (Northern Dorne) with Andals/Rhoynar mix (Southern Dorne), Dorne's brownness is too overplayed
>>219932407>Dorne's brownness is too overplayedcrakkkas not welcome in Dorne
>>219932368They let one spicy latina in and, well, you can see the result.
Dorne is ruled by weak men and that’s canon
>>219930366I agree!
In the show everyone kind of just dies at the end without it feeling like a proper thematic conclusion to their arc, and I would hope Gurm has something better planned. Melisandre dying at the last battle makes sense at least, but what am I supposed to get from Jorah or Theon dying there? It says nothing about their development as characters. It would be approximately 200x more kino if Jorah was the one to kill Dany.
>>219929404egg is icsh
>>219929404
>>219933218>if Jorah was the one to kill Dany.Oh wow that would have been awesome haha
>>219930739Damn. I've changed my opinion on the character.
>>219931473>I think Roose wants to be rid of RamsayIndeed, he's hoping Ramsay quickly knocks up "Arya" and once a son is born, Roose can kill off Ramsay and raise his heir himself.
>>219936892why not have one of his own kids
>>219930333>>219932839>>219933739>if i keep forcing my unfunny twitter meme, people might think it's funny
>>219929442>>219929478It’s weird how Dorne wins every time. Daeron fucking dies like a loser for no gain.What makes Dorne so unbeatable?
>>219931576They killed several Targaryen monarchs, a dragon, 150,000 invaders, and won every war. So they have some redeeming qualities.
>>219938423better fighters
>>219938423dorne is afghanistan
>>219938458That's because westeros hasn't discovered fascism yet. All it would take is someone to build a few work camps and makes some dubious claim about we wuz andals.Then do the same to the ir*n islands
Why does losing every Dornish war trigger Targaryens so much?
>>219929478based
>>219929478>(((targs))) on suicide watch
hello. hi.
Yi-Ti arc
>SAAR YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTERD BENCHOD DORNE REDEEMS THE WIN SAAR DO NOT TALK ABOUT DAERON THAT DOES NOT REDEEM
>>219929442>triggers Dornefags every single timeYou love to see it.
....semoc eH
>>219929478Fire and Bl- ACK!
>>219938503The US won in Afghanistan. Their flag flew over Kabul.
>>219929440>>219929478>>219930090>>219932204>>219938423
>>219939976!on ,on ,oN
>>219930090>loses the most troops in Westerosi history>murdered under a peace banner>Dorne undoes his years of efforts in a fortnight Utter bullshit
If the Blacks won the Dance, why isn’t Rhaenyra remembered as a queen?
>>219940398Because they didn't win and Cregan legitimized the rule of Aegon II after the war.
>>219940084and then the taliban came and took it down and started ruling the country, which for US is an objective strategic defeat
>>219929478Humiliation ritual...
>>219931071
>>219939663underrated waifu
>the greatest prince was half-Dornish
>>219941048not so great having your skull caved in
>RoslinRobb was a retard
>>219941048Since when was Aemond half-Dornish?
>>219941048Aemond is half Hightower though.
>>219941048>>219941048POV: what Daeron II saw as he submitted to Dorne to make Baelor
>>219941611>>219941688Checked.
>Aemond was the GREAT-AAAAACK
>>219942133Blackfyre mogged by Dark Sister as always.
Is Dornefag STILL coping about Daeron winning? It's been like a full day dude. Give it a rest.
>DAERON WON!!!!1>DORNE'S OBLITERATED!!!1
>>219942303>>219929760
>>219942303Kind of wild that Dorne committed their own Red Wedding yet Westeros never gave much of a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoqsXW_-Dmgkino
>>219929478Savage.
>>219942303It’s insane that the desert country can’t lose a war because…. it’s le desertDaeron would have won if he’d just genocided them
>>219943779Daeron DID win. Every lord from Starfall to Sunspear bent the knee to a 13 year old.
>>219942571They weren’t functionally part of the Seven Kingdoms, so it was seen as “foreigners will be foreigners”. But the general attitude of Westerosi towards Dornishmen shows that they’re not fully forgiven or forgotten.It does help explain the Blackfyre rebellion; nobles watch the royal house lose a war, 60,000 men, and a goddamn king to Dornish assholes for absolutely no gain… and then Daeron II makes peace with them and let's their dirty blood in the royal line.Think about it.
>>219943779He couldn’t kill everyone tho. He never stood a chance of actually beating them, Dorne is too rough a land. But he should have known better than to trust them.
>>219943779it’s better that he lost, it taught everyone a valuable lesson about EVER trusting d*rnishmen
>>219943850>Think about it.The Blackfyre rebellion was about a quarter of a century after Daeron got rekt in the sands of Dorne.The supporters who whined about the Dornish were mostly corrupt lords who lost influence in court after Aegon IV kicked the bucket and were seething about it.
>>219943922True. Shoot a Dornishman on sight.
>>219943850>>219944293Daeron was not “rekt” you fucking retards, he fucking WON.
>Daeron was not “rekt” you fucking retards, he fucking WON.
>>219936892>>219937842>why not have one of his own kidsSure, that'll work also. The point being, Roose needs a (non-retard) heir before he can get rid of Ramsay.
>>219938423>What makes Dorne so unbeatable?Gurm having read "Dune" plus not knowing shit about history, military operations, economies or pretty much anything.
>>219931576>zero redeeming qualities they're not Ironborn
>>219940448that quote about the gods playing dice every time a Targ is born is no bullshitevery generation they get a random assortiment of every type : failures like Aenys or Aegon II, absolute chads like the Conqueror, Rhaegar, the Young Dragon or the Dragonknight, sociopaths like Aemond, Aerion or Maegor, sickly weaklings and nerds like Aerys I or Jaehaerys II, gigabrained planners like Viserys II or Jaehaerys I....And I didn't even look at the females of the family or the bastardsIt's really everything or nothing with them
>>219945782>female Targaryenseither slutty types or retards (or both at once)>inb4 Alysanneshe was the exception
>>219945812Alysanne had her own kind of retardation despite sounding smart
>>219945812>>219945839What about Elaena, the Conqueror's sisters or the Queen that never Was ? What about Rhaenyra ? There are plenty of exemples of smart and successful Targ females
Obviously the show makes it comically obvious that Rhaenyra's strong boys are not Laenor's, but how obvious is it in the book?
>>219929404>>219929440Unironically, how are they so strong and able to defend against the Targshitters so well they had to be brought in with peace negotiations and a royal marriage? Even when Daeron took Sunspear and technically won the smallfolk kept causing problems and the lords rebelled again not long after.Also considering how often I see anons here call Baelor I based he cucked out and wanted peace with them.
>>219946047In the books, Laenor is a real Valyrian (ie he's white in addition to the purple eyes and the silver hair) so it's not as asobvious as in the show but anyone in the setting who knows anything about Targ marriages and their offspring realize pretty quickly that something is off (with the Greens and legitimate Velaryons spreading rumors just like in the show). However it is still somewhat a little probable though unlikely that they are really Laenor's kids so they still manage to pass them off. The show really appears to take its public for mouth breathing retards however because with a mixed race couple there's no chance that THREE kids (not just one) are all white with a black father
>>219946349They've got General Sand and General Sun on their side.
>>219933503luke is icsh
>>219946349It's not that they're any stronger then anyone else, they're just more resolute that they didn't want to be ruled by Dragon-Tyrants then anywhere else; mostly because the Rhoynar legacy and because they were more committed to fighting 'dirty'. If the alliance of the Reach and the Rock had hit and faded and used assassins then they'd probably have won as well; but instead they decided to try and sort out the Targaryan armies in one blow by massed ranked charge onto a bonfire.
>>219940084the US took the most urbanized parts of Afghanistan while their local allies got raped and gaped by the Taliban sections in the countryside, then they left and the Taliban surged back so fast that the Americans had to publicly beg them to let them finish evacuating before they took all of Kabul
