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Episode 6 “Requiem“ airs tonight at 6pm pst, 9pm est.
Episode 5 Thread >>219760114
Episode 5 Recap
>Vanessa survives the initial Bullseye attack and undergoes Surgery
>Daniel leaks Vanessa’s conditions to BB and she breaks the news (finally get a hug between them <3)
>DD and a wounded Bullseye are on the run
>We get a flashback with Vanessa’s POV the night she decides to put the rabbit in the snowstorm painting in the showroom
>Buck takes Daniel to Albany and forces him to bury the Northern Star first mate, as a way to get him to stop leaking info.
>We learn Buck Cashman is an old friend of Wesley and that’s how Fisk found him.
>Flashback scene with Matt and Foggy (after college but before they made Murdock and nelson)
>In the Matt/Foggy flashback we learn that their client is going to be the victim of a Fisk hired, Buck executed hit.
>Foggy gives said client all of the Nelson & Murdock funds to the victim so he can escape NYC, giving Matt a lesson on mercy
>Cuts to present day where Matt leaves Bullseye to die as the AVTF is rapidly approaching, then comes back and saves him
>Vanessa recovers from the surgery but is still drugged up and wants pineapple juice, Fisk says no because it makes her lips tingle but she insists so he gets her pineapple juice and her allergic reaction gave her a stroke and she dies.
>Episode ends with Matt carrying Bullseye to Punisher’s hideout and we see Karen’s WTF reaction.
Jessica Jones Returns tonight.
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>>219930502
>Buck takes Daniel to Albany and forces him to bury the Northern Star first mate, as a way to get him to stop leaking info.
Fuck! I thought that was BB. I hate that bitch and her story arc.
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I don't want to talk about this show.
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fisk is so angry kek
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link?
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Fisk is such a sperg, is he like this in the comics? I mean seriously why the fuck did he feel the need to kill the guy that was trying to comfort him? Fisk should be mad at himself why is he mad at the doctor that performed a successful surgery?
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>>219930502
New ep
https://gofile.io/d/Yelw8V
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>>219930502
i spent the last 5 days drunk as fuck i didnt even realize it was out, i'll watch it
thanks op
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last 2 episodes have been great
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Jessica and Luke really named their kid after Danny of all people
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>>219930502
What the fuck happened to jessica super powers? She couldn't even punch random guy

Is it because she had a baby? How does that make any sense
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>>219932111
checked and yes, he is a manchild
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>>219932425
Her powers have been on the fritz since she had her daughter, never watched her show beyond the first season so not sure how much that tracks.
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>>219932467
she never had a kid in her show, this is the first mention we get of her having a kid
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did this nigga fisk just punch a brick wall... BREAK IT... AND STILL HAVE HIS HAND???? What the fuck is the power scaling on this shit is he a super soldier?
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>>219932771
He also punched and slightly broke a brick wall during the Netflix DD S3 fight
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>>219930502
Cole North is totally going to beat the shit out of Connor Powell and save Karen.

The kicker gonna be Connor actually killed Hector Ayala and Cole took the blame out of loyalty to the AVTF.
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>>219932844
>The kicker gonna be Connor actually killed Hector Ayala and Cole took the blame out of loyalty to the AVTF.
Matt literally heard Powell's heartbeat so he knew he wasn't lying when he denied responsibility for the murder.
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>>219932844
Not exactly.
Next episode starts: Its a brief fight between the two but its capped off (no pun intended) by Cole literally blowing up Connor's head with heavy duty ammo. However, Cole DID kill Hector in S1 and Angela confronts him about that. Cole is no hero either.
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>>219932844
Definitely the most likely scenario
>Matt too far away
>Bullseye still handcuffed and wounded
>Punisher is on the run
>Jess likely not near the protest
Either mini white tiger throws her knife at Powell or North stops him.
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>>219932957
>>219932968
Or Bullseye just kills Powell, we haven't gotten to that point in the teaser footage of the AVTF trying to frame Dex for something only for him to show up and just casually own them all.
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>>219932932
Exactly. The writers aren't going to make Cole completely innocent and lay the blame on the worst guy for the worst act last season.
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>>219933033
Bullseye kills Kingpin. Vincent DeNafrio is only Fisk in flashback scenes I would imagine for season 3. It will be very interesting to see fans will respond to this.

See you all in two weeks for the finale.
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>>219933033
>Or Bullseye just kills Powell
anon, powell has a gun pointed at karen's forehead and bullseye is handcuffed to a bed in a parking garages office room covered in stitches and could barely walk. If you think he got all the way to the protest in time you are wrong. It has to be someone that was already there. I know the clip you are talking about, maybe they frame him for the killing of that one avtf dude powell killed, but bullseye won't get there in time to protect karen. Also why would he protect karen she was just about to kill him.
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>>219933151
Nah
Vincent D'onofrio confirmed that S3 will explore the consequences of the events of S2 on his psyche, but that the Mayor Fisk storyline is over and the Daredevil/Kingpin rivarly won't be the main focus anymore, so he probably has a side role instead of being the main villain.
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>>219933160
Not immediately, there's a scene in the teasers of Kingpin seeing Karen in the jail and strangling her in anger as they both spit venom at each other.

The Bullseye clip happens in an abandoned building, the guy wearing the Bullseye suit is either Powell or Buck.
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Is trish mentionned
I won't watch if she isn't
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>>219933151
s3 is fisk and daredevil teaming up in prison against all of their enemies. Bullseye gets life in prison and is the key witness in bringing Fisk down but as collateral Matt also has to go to prison.
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>>219933253
Jessica mentions that Mr. Charles/Valentina has been recruiting supers for some unknown purpose, which she declined but that several people she knew did accept. Likely referring to Luke, but Trish would definitely be a valid candidate.
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>>219930705
it was a pale guy with short hair how the hell did you think that was BB
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>>219933331
Oh shit I forgot Charles and Val are working together
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>Killer turns a woman into a deranged coomer
unrealistic
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>>219933543
Do you think when she fully takes on the Muse mantle, she'll automatically know how to do karate?
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>>219933188
It's never not going to be funny to me that comic Kingpin is supposed to be 'just some dude' without even the bullshit magic kung-fu training that Batman has to justify his superhuman feats, but at the same time through training and genes alone he somehow ended up in a position that the bones in his hands are bigger than Daredevil's entire ribcage and could just play dolls with most heroes grabbing them by their waist, as if he was a fucking Ozaru.
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what was the significance of heather stealing the earring from that bedroom? it's not like she's poor or anything that was so random
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Americans will be creatively bankrupt once Trump is out of office, every show and movie is an allegory for orange man bad
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Obviously different episodes are normally written by different people, but this is one of those episodes where you can just see and hear that it was written by someone else
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>>219933406
>how the hell did you think that was BB
All I saw was a corpse in a plastic bag in the trunk of the car. Prior to that, they were discussing who leaked Vanessa was still alive in the hospital.

You're telling me the assistant boat captain was that leak? Just made sense that it was BB.
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Whose going to be the villain of S3? The Owl? Mr Fear?

Probably not The Hand, they're busy with Spider-Man.
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>>219933591
If Karen Page can teach herself karate, so can this babe. Helps that the actress is capable of the stunt work too.

I want her to he the new Muse. And hopefully kill BB.
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>>219933759
the leak was bb but the body was the captains first mate that buck killed the night of the fisk boxing match, he killed the 2 marshals and the first mate but transferred the mate's body up to albany
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>Karen gets more wet for Frank and Dex than she does for Matt
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>>219933485
FUCK YEAH last 3 episodes been on netflix tier
God bless i thought we lost dd since last season was basically a parody of the netflix show, also its been 12 years since season 1 wtf
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>>219933799
Unironically, I think there's a non-zero chance that the Hand is a fakeout for Brand New Day.
It probably isn't, but it doesn't feel right that the next big Spider-Man movie right before Doomsday would just be him fighting a ton of literally whos, and it's not even the same literally whos but an entire new rogue's gallery worth of them, especially ones that aren't even (usually) his thing.
I've got this feeling that the Hand is being teased because they will be relevant, but in Daredevil, and both them and at least a couple of the other randos in the trailer are just CGI replacement for something else that somehow ties into Doctor Doom/Latveria.
If Spider-Man were to have to fight some random assholes, then the dipshits from the [I genuinely forgot what they called that series with the Iron Man wanna-be girl] would make more sense since they're headed by a villain actually associated with Spider-Man a bit more, are fucking around with Stark tech, and also are literally being puppeted by Mephisto who'd be a really fucking easy connection between a version of Peter looking for a solution to his situation and Doctor Doom in the next movie.
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Haven't seen the new season yet. Only watched season 1. It's just hard to take Fisk becoming Mayor seriously after he very publicly not only went to prison for murder and arms trafficing and drugs (drugs i could be wrong about, i dont completely remember), but also attempted to escape police custody very publicly.
The whole all cops are corrupt bastards, the system is rigged stich can only be taken so far and extreme before it becomes bad writing.

It feels like a slightly more mature but still has the subtly of a sledgehammer version of the Boys.
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Buck was probably hard as fuck when she was choking him
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>He was Catholic, Wilson Fisk?
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>>219933977
You can absolutely can do Mayor Fisk, the problem is the show just skipped any buildup for it because Marvel immediately and only wanted to transfer Daredevil and Kingpin from the original show and nothing else.

There's also the awkwardness because the scale of that storyline absolutely necessitates various major MCU players being involved, and really it's the only way to one-up S3, to transform Fisk into an Avengers-level threat. But they can't do that because Marvel is saving them for Doomsday.
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>>219933977
Watch this season because the previous one was retarded but this one kinda good
Remeber than in netflx after s1 he was in jail and by season 3 he controlled everything again
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i just want a buddy cop thing with dd and bullseye, none of this defenders bullshit
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why kill the doctor when its his own fault for the pineapple juice???
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>>219933949
brand new day main villain is tombstone, he pays the hand to break scorpion out of jail. they use that money to bring elektra back
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>>219934106
Bullseye is in S3, Wilson Bethel said he just started filming his scenes.
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>>219934105
This.
I feel at this point what Marvel should do, is just say some time stone bullshit happened or whatever and actually Phase 6 is actually Phase 4, hence why it started with The Fantastic Four, and everything in the previous Phase 4 and 5 never really happened or was in some autistic alternate reality that Loki accidentally sat on while trying to deal with his leg falling asleep on the eternal throne of time and space or wherever the fuck he is right now.
I have no idea what ancient magic Michael Giacchino incanted into the Fantastic 4 theme, but just judging by that movie, Wonder Man and this season of Daredevil, it actually feels like the MCU is back on Phase 2-3 level.
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The writing is getting kind of lazy again, just because the plot needed to have Karen caught by the Task Force doesn't mean it needs to happen this way.
Why did that guy just drive by take her wig off? Why did Karen have no urgency about her disguise being taken?
How and Why did Powell go behind all the people getting pushed away to conveniently find Karen that fast?
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>>219934255
Yeah they said that for doomsday most of the M-she-U, phase 4 & some 5 wont matter
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>>219932771
He abruptly went from peak human to superhuman during Hawkeye
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>>219932771
Walls mocked him when he was a boy. He held a grudge.
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>>219934383
>mfw Disney is too cucked to let there be a story arc next season where pic related shows up to take vengeance for his cousin
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The painting getting bleed on was peak
But holy shit why cant the mcu nig do a fight without cuts like netflix did that was literally the peak of the show
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>>219932771
he got shot in the head during the hawkeye show and he wore an eyepatch for the echo show, that was it.
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>>219934447
Most of the Netflix fights did tend to have many cuts, it was the oners (and the first Bullseye fight) that were the exceptions.
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Both Fisk and Matt's blood now marking Rabbit in a Snowstorm was a nice touch
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>>219933926
Yeah, I still miss the look of Netflix's DD but the actor/actresses are carrying the show hard, especially Vincent and Deborah.
Is it strange that I find Heather fucking incineratingly hot as fuck now?
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>>219934513
Yeah but you had like 1-2 per season that were long fights without cuts
Season 1 was the hallway
Season 2 was a building
Season 3 had the prison and the last fight between the 3
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>>219934605
Yeah I said the oners. Tho S1 and S3 were pure one-take shots while S2 had a lot of obvious editing.
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>>219934603
>Is it strange that I find Heather fucking incineratingly hot as fuck now?
She looks the same to me, but bb looks too good and i didnt think that last season
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>>219934670
Maybe it's that she's increasingly losing her mind that I find hot, and that's concerning.
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>He choked me...
>Show me
You know what? Sure, go for it, Buck. I'm rooting for you.
At first I thought she was gonna show him the scars from when Muse cut her
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>>219934670
BB looked great at the gala from last season
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>>219932448
No way, he's a lot more collected
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wtf fisk killed the doctor. how will he get away with that? the stuff he gets away with is retarded. spider-man needs to rip his head off.
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>wearing white suit to funeral
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Why is Jessica Jones nerfed?
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It would be funny to see Fisk go up against someone actually strong like Spider-Man would could easily snap him in half if he wanted to.
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I like this kid. I know he's a nepo baby but every political campaign needs a hotshot who's aspirations exceed his capabilities.

I've watched too much capeshit tho. For him to establish himself as a power player, he needs to kill BB. If he doesn't, I suspect they'll kill him off instead (because he is white).
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Wesley mentioned.
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>>219935012
He literally appeared in the previous episode
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>>219934956
Evil baby
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Luke Cage is literally that character from Invincible, well-meaning crime lord with super strength and durability who just wants to protect his daughter.
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>>219934885
>>219934980
Spiderman always struggles with kingping unlees he is going all out which mcu spiderman wont
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Am I high or was the fight scene in the warehouse with JJ very poorly edited?
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>>219935130
It was fine, I thought the episode was missing scene to show how Daredevil knew where Kingpin's secret dungeon was.
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>>219935011
To this day I don't really understand the purpose of this character. Can't tell if the intention of the writers is for the audience to like him or hate him or just laugh at him. He's just kind of a dumb zoomer. The other characters keep saying things like "he has potential" or "he's starting to impress me" but he mostly just acts retarded and gets played by BB.
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Is Jessica Jones invulnerable or just strong? Like if you shot her with a shotgun would she die?
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>>219935206
Super strong, and more durable than a normal human, but not bulletproof. That's Luke.
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>>219935082
>Luke Cage is literally that character from Invincible
And I dislike both characters. Probably because they're black. But also like WTF is their power? Strength and Durability. Wow. So they're like the male versions of Jessica Jones. Cool.

No wonder all these guys are street level fags.
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>>219935179
The leaks for Born Again before the reboot implied he was going to be revealed as Kingpin's illegitimate son from before he met Vanessa. Afterwards, they shifted his role moreso to being like Victor from The Penguin where he's eagerly supportive of this criminal boss for being a mentor/father figure when he will obviously betray him at the end.
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>>219935179
Because season 1 was gonna be a shehulk tier show before they did the reshoots and new script, he was mostly from that og version (gay and softreboot, no foggy karen etc) and now they have him in this second season trying to make him an actual character
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>>219935179
>>219935242
I like the stink eye he's given BB lately. Like he knows she's full of shit. But won't call her out on it... yet.

Do you guys remember the scene where they're in line for the boxing fight and some random BB fan takes a selfie and slips a device into her pocket?

What was that?
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>>219932771
In the comics he is easily that strong and durable, it does seem a little out of place in the show though
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>>219935302
It was the recording of the interview, I did think Daniel totally knew something was up but he blew it off because he still cared about her. BB almost screwing him over at the hospital was when he finally got sick of her taking advantage of him.
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how old is the zoomers mom?
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>>219935171
>how Daredevil knew where Kingpin's secret dungeon was.
Jessica did know they say it on the episode
>>219935302
>What was that?
Karen gave the sd to the latina girl with the amulet she gave it to the fan who then passed it to bb, cant remember what the sd has tho its a shitty plotline
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>>219935310
Remember when Kate Bishop literally blew him up with like 50 arrows and yet he still tanked all of it?
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>>219933645
I am sure it will be explained in one of the next two episodes
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>>219935238
I honestly assumed that he was gonna be Fisk's son too because they did a thing like that not terribly long ago in the comics, I can't remember all the details but I think when Fisk left after Devil's Reign he eft the "business" to his bastard
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>>219935551
*left
I really hope they changed that though because I think it was gonna be stupid and too unbelievable. Would need a lot more exposition.
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The Punisher really needs to go to town on a lot of people in this show like all those task force cops. There needs to be some serious murdering going on
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>>219935237
Jessica's skin doesn't stop bullets and she can also fly or jump big depending on the writer
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>>219935370
No I forgot about that but I remember him getting shot in the skull at point blank so I see your point. I am a comics fag so I'm okay with the characterization anyways, I just know normies will do their muh realism in capeshit trope
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>>219935599
He just went back to retirement and the special will be about him returning to being The Punisher to save a little girl.
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GODDAMNIT DANIEL
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>>219935667
How many fucking times is he gonna play that same routine?
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>>219935771
I noticed when Jon Bernthal is creatively involved, he always makes Frank a reluctant hero.
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>>219935238
>>219935551
>>219935585
They could still do a Greek Tragedy thing, where Fisk feels like there is nothing for him to lose, like he says in this episode, later on kills Daniel and has someone track down BB but not kill her as he wants to personally kill her for 'corrupting his most loyal soldier', only to find her with Daniel's mom. He gets pissed, BB doesn't understand why. Fisk thinks she tracked down one of his exes in yet another plot to dig up dirt on him, which BB doesn't understand, she didn't know they knew eachother and drops that it's just Daniel's mother.
Fisk then realizes that Daniel was his son, one more, final chance at a family that he thought he lost, and he killed him.
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>White woman with half-black bay
>is a single mother
KEKAROO
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why does karen always do stupid shit that gets innocent people killed?
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I stopped watching this show years and years ago but im just dropping in to say that the knuckledragging cunt Kingpin is the worst faggot actor in the universe and the only memorable part about the show(how dogshit retarded he is at acting.) I swear to god he makes Sasha Grey look good. Thats how shit he is. nigger
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>>219935871
A bit soapy imo. I think if they kill him before the reveal it would be too silly, the only way it has a shot at working in my head is if it leads to Daniel feeling responsibility for the business moving forward because he was being groomed for this purpose all along. Like Fisk already knew he was his bastard when he hired him. Then after Fisk is kil or in prison or something Daniel takes over as Kingpin Jr.
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>>219935953
She is a woman moment personified
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karen need the vanessa treatment
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>>219936015
I think they already cast a different actor to play Kingpin's secret son in BA S3, new series regular described as "easygoing and nice New Yorker with hidden rage issues" which could either be attributed to Blindspot (obviously not because he's asian) or The Rose (Richard Fisk or Butch Harriss). Actor also bears some resemblance to Vincent Donofrio.
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>>219936015
>Then after Fisk is kil or in prison or something Daniel takes over as Kingpin Jr.
I get your idea, but I just don't think Daniel, at least the way he's written in this season, has that in him.
There'd need to be something really fucked up to put him on the warpath but also not against Fisk to happen before that would make sense.
Like, as of the latest episode, he basically has reason to believe that BB is the reason he had to bury or chop up a body, and is still trying to protect BB because his heart doesn't seem to be in this criminal conspiracy shit.
Now if BB and/or his mom died because of something that seems like Daredevil's fault, like some of the guys sporting Daredevil masks getting violent and getting them killed at violent protest, then maybe I can see that happening, but otherwise he seems to mostly just want to keep his head down at this point.
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BB is cute and likes white boys, I don't give a shit if her character sucks.
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where are /ourgirls/
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was the incompetent AVTF leader guy tanking a Jessica punch meant to be Jessica's powers "not working" or was it implying he has some kind of super serum
It's weird that she'd have super strength the whole time except for 2 seconds
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>>219935609
>fly
You mean in the comics?

On the tv show she is mid tier even for street heroes
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>>219936211
I don't even know who that is
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>>219936265
that was typhoid mary from iron fist season 2
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>>219936260
Jessica can fly in the show, she just doesn't like to and limits it to super jumps.
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>>219936088
Interesting thanks for sharing. Out of random curiosity, where do you get your news like this from? Did another anon say it or was it pointed out to you by some headline on bleedingcool type shits
I agree he could pass as a baby kingpin
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>>219936109
Yeah I think he is set up for a tragic ending if anything; he wants a way out but can't get it. He will probably die protecting BB or some shit.
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why did he paint his suit black with acrylic paint? it's chipping off
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>>219936179
I would also like to have sex on BB
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>>219936307
Jesus I don't have any recollection of that arc at all. I definitely watched the season but all I remember is that stupid post credits thing where he shot the magic pistols or whatever tf. Typhoid Mary is a dope character and has a presence in Devil's Reign, she should be used again. Was she any good in Iron Fist s2?
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>>219936389
From NexusPointNews
https://nexuspointnews.com/jack-mulhern-daredevil-born-again-season-3-exclusive/
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>>219936449
I never watched Iron Fist season 2, I'm just familiar with the character because she is the most prominent DAREDEVIL VILLAIN (not Iron Fist villain, and I never even finished season 1 of that show) once you get past Kingpin, Bullseye, and the Hand, and I'm still annoyed that they've already used her and thus probably won't ever do so again
though it would probably be a good idea, since she's a mutant and they do want to include mutants into everything going forward
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that task force leader guy has so much retarded plot armor. he's so incompetent yet he's always on screen, i think i lost count of how many times he should've been gravely injured or dead.
also can't stand his face, so good then them for picking an actor you want to punch.
karen being at the protest was also an incredibly contrived plot convenience, on top of him just spotting her in the crowd.
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>>219932771
He basically has tard strength.
>>219934325
Him just completely taking the door off that car was pretty funny.
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matt swung his club and fisk threw a punch and his punch hit the club and somehow that sent matt flying backwards
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>>219936515
Tyhoid Mary was planned to be one of the villains of Daredevil S4 back when it was still on Netflix (same actress from IF S2 but with a redesign).

The plot would have been about The Owl taking Kingpin's place as the new crime lord of Hell's Kitchen and wanting revenge for his father's death while Matt hooked up with Mary only to find out about her mental issues and powers. All in the style of a noir romance murder mystery.
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>>219936583
that would've been great
mary, even as an evil psycho, would be better gf for matt than current karen
they should've also somehow brought purple man back, because even though that shit with Jessica is from the comics, he's also mostly still a daredevil villain
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>>219936583
And the guy that makes the suit for dd and kingping becomes a bad guy named the guardian
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>>219936617
he's called gladiator
they set up his turn in season 1 when he throws a saw blade at matt, that's his main thing in the comics besides being big and strong
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>some tranny just stole karen's wig and ran off and it was completely unrelated to the riot
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When Jessica punched Powell, how come she couldn't knock him down despite beating up the other AVTF members like a button masher in musou games?
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>>219936635
Fuck i am just sleepy, anyways s4 netflix sound a lot like s2 and not that much like s3 so maybe its good we never got to see it
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>>219935179
He was clearly meant to represent the previously apolitical loners that started worshiping Trump for the memes.
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>>219936691
Did you not hear the part where she tells Matt sometimes her powers go away?
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>>219936742
matt getting involved with bitches who turn out to be crazy or he turns them crazy is the most fundamental aspect of his character outside of being blind and a lawyer
did you know that lady deathstrike's first appearance was as a random normal asian bitch that he fucks around with, and then the next time she showed up she was an x-men villain with cyber arms who dresses like pirate, which wasn't an intentional thing, they just picked a random woman character to be a new villain and changed everything about her, but it was never really explained so she's just on the list with elektra, mary, karen, heather, black widow, etc. of women whose lives matt fucks up before moving on to the next because he's based
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I like his current black suit. It started with specs of red but as he gets more battle damage, it starts turning red.

Did he just paint a red suit black? It's okay if he did. But in She-Hulk, it showed him getting his gear from the Premiere faggot designer in the costume biz.

Thoughts?
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>fisk in silent mourning until meeting matt near the end of the episode
this felt like something netflix would've done
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>>219936742
Netflix S3 was just S1 but way better so I wouldn't have minded them redoing S2.
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>>219934797
No wonder Daniel wants to fuck her. KWEENS stay winning
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I wasn't expecting the Daredevil-Fisk fight in front of the painting to happen today. I thought for sure that was going to be for the season's climax in the finale
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>>219936691
her powers turned off because the plot demanded it
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>>219936821
season 1 of this show showed that he had like 5 different helmets and costumes in different colors but maybe that was a leftover from the even worse original version because it doesn't line up with this "black" suit he has now
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>>219932771
He was always bordering on super-strength
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>>219936795
You made it sound based, would you reccomend me some dd comics?
>>219936841
I guess but s3 worked as an ending somewhat s4 problably wouldnt have
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>>219934956
>>219935069
The pregnancy fucked with her powers. Which is good, superhumans need to be vulnerable too.
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>>219933614
Humans in Marvel have a canonical reason that some of them are born with superhuman traits-- even if they aren't mutants.
The same way Bullseye is just supernaturally good at throwing stuff,
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>>219936971
Start with the Frank Miller "Man Without Fear" run, since it's essentially a reboot.
For as overrated as it is, and how people keep trying to replicate it and reference back to it at the cost of everything that came before, it's still very good and it'll probably be "comfy" in that it's a better version of the Affleck movie and most of this TV show.
Then if you really like that, there's more Miller stuff.
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>>219933614
he's a big guy
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>>219933614
>Kingpin is supposed to be 'just some dude' without even the bullshit magic kung-fu training that Batma
Kingpin has almost always been shown to have extensive combat of some kind whether it's boxing or whatever. He was also the leader of the Hand for quite a while.
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>>219936971
One of the only good things Bendis ever wrote was his Daredevil run, so I'd recommend that
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>>219933543
the most realistically written woman on the show
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>>219933614
Comic kingpin may as well be a mutant. That nigga regularly trades blows with spider man and sometimes overpowers him. The explanation that he is not fat but that he is so fucking muscular his muscles make him look like a ballon is really funny and at that point that’s just a superpower
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>>219937074
>>219937097
Thanks bros ill read those
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>>219937090
>Kingpin has almost always been shown to have extensive combat of some kind whether it's boxing or whatever.
Oh I know, but to my understanding, his martial arts are just martial arts, unlike Batman, whose martial arts training has a lot more in common with Iron Fist from Marvel than it does with Bruce Lee.
I.e. as much as people pretend like Batman doesn't have powers, he does pull random magic martial arts bullshit out of his ass every now and again because he was taught the kind of martial arts that let you control your chakras and toughen your skin and all that bullshit, while Fisk's martial arts is just that he knows some moves, with no mystical elements behind it.
He just big.

>>219937027
Oh yeah, absolutely, but it's still hilarious that his totally not mutant 'quirk' is that he has the proportions of an ogre.

>>219937202
One of the great injusticies of our universe is that there never was a live action Spider-Man movie in the 70s where Spider-Man would fight Kingpin, played by Bud Spencer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iia96lPKNzo
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>>219937239
Well Batman also isn't 8 feet tall and 500 pounds of strongfat
Batman would have trouble with Kingpin the same way everyone else does, but assuming he can't move fast, and then when he does, and effortlessly grabs you when you try to dodge, your whole battle plan is fucked
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>>219933645
>what was the significance of heather stealing the earring from that bedroom?
It was a trophy, she actually poisoned Vanessa's pineapple juice
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>tfw mommy heather will never choke you during your therapy sessions
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this shows structure is 1:1 like a comic book
i dont think it;ll work otherwise
kinda miss the realism of s1 netflix but whatever that's dead and gone
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>>219936224
She said her powers come and go since having her daughter
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>>219933543
What I like about Buck is that they fooled me last season to think he'd snitch on Fisk after seeing him splode the old commissioner's head but nope. He's just as evil as Fisk, but even scarier since he's the one who was there from the beginning that made Fisk's goons afraid to face him with failure.
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>>219937549
yeah but for like half a second? that's hardly even notable
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>>219937554
Yeah the look he had after Giallo got sent to the gallows was more like "Shit...I'm gonna have to clean that up I guess." in retrospect.
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>>219937578
Because they are doing a Ramsey Bolton thing with Connor Powell where he is unpunished and he gets worse and worse each time.

Why do you think DD popping him in the head with the canister was poorly edited? Wasn't his time yet.
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>>219937445
S1 wasn't really "realistic" as much as it was a "back to the basics" story of a vigilante uncovering a criminal conspiracy while we see him slowly learn to refine his methods and missions every episode, S3 was the same way where he's nerfed from injuries.

You can't really do that in Born Again, where Daredevil has been superheroing for 12 years in-universe and is decked out with equipment on top of improved senses. But maybe we'll get some of that grit back in BA S3 since it will be about Matt stuck in prison
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>>219936850
The climax of the season is going to be New York literally jumping and mobbing Kingpin
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>>219936877
In She-Hulk he was going to an Edna Mode style superhero gay taylor L.A. but that's clearly not the case anymore
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is he going to wear the "im not daredevil" sweater in s3?
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>>219930502
Are people on Twitter watching this show with their eyes closed?
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Ayo, white boi, got any info from da mayor's office?
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>>219937864
zamn
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>>219937864
I'd let her dare my devil if you know whatiamsaying man
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>>219937864
AYYYY I'M STILL EATING MA GABAGOOL OVER HERE!!!
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>>219937940
Are they gonna whack him bros?
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>>219937959
he needs to do some whacking to get character development. either as a villain or turning into a hero
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Was Lalo Salamanca an actual active hero or did he just stop a random mugging once and Fisk used that as an excuse to arrest him?
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>>219938023
he was a guy with 11/10 sword abilities
they never actually show him doing hero shit but in hawkeye when he was introduced he was trying to buy the ronin outfit maybe to become ronin
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>>219938023
>>219938069
There was footage of him stabbing thieves/criminals in a BB report segment in BA S1, so he got into vigilantism after Hawkeye.
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Why did they send a kill squad after Jessica Jones?
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>>219938155
it's a comic book show, they wanted to bring her back dont think about it
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>>219938155
because she refused to join the thunderbolts or something
she explains it was the CIA very clearly
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>>219935667
And most of his dialogue will be about how hard is it being a vet and how no one understands him. He'll grunt and moan a lot too.
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>>219935667
>He just went back to retirement
He was active in season 1, why would he break out of Fisk's prison, see him take over the city and go "yeah, this is a good time to retire"?
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>>219938313
Ask Frank Bernthal, he wrote the script.
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>>219938203
His take on The Punisher is so fucking lame
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>>219938199
The MCU X-Men will be in response to this btw.
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>>219933309
sounds kino
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>>219934670
should rewatch the gala scene from last season she is smoking hot in that episode
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>>219936877
that apartment got blown to pieces, and if somehow they didn't get blown up they definitely got seized because matt has not gone to that apartment since the fight with punisher
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>>219934797
>>219937864
Hottest woman in the show and it isn't even close.
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>>219934797
>>219937864
JUNGLE BOOGIE
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>>219939859
>Daniel had never known the pleasure of the human flesh - but he was no match for the temptations of BB's, who in the darkness of night looked even more African than she already was...
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>>219937864
She makes me leak, if you catch my meaning.
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>>219939977
>who in the darkness of night looked even MORE African than she already was...
Probably a typo I like the actual line change from "less" to "more" there. Implies Daniel likes them darker.
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I will say that task force dude does a good job of making me wish his face gets smashed in. They better not chicken out of giving some cathartic end for him.
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>>219933835
jej
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>>219935366
>cant remember what the sd has tho
It has the interview the protags did with the first mate of Northern Star you dumb fuck. Seriously the "Netflix effect" where everything has to be repeated 10x for retarded people browsing their phones is real
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>>219941282
People forget how much padding those Netflix shows had
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>>219930502
Eric Andre made this woman watch 2 girls 1 cup
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>>219935130
The editing was ok, what pissed me off was the giant military tube-thing (presumably a missile?) that
a) exploded after being kickedat a wall (military weapons don't work like that, they need to have their fuse armed etc)
b) produced a tiny ass explosion
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>>219941318
c.) Connor got booped and we didn't get to see it well-edited. AFTER Jessica's powers conveniently wore off. Ramsey Bolton he is not.
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>>219935765
IRL zoomer women wouldn't acknowledge the existance of such a sub5, unless as a gay friend
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>>219941306
She seems like a freak. She probably liked it, or at least is desensitized to that kind of shit.
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>>219941391
At least he didn't show her What What in the Robot.
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>>219936850
Also it was pointless
>we're destroying NY, give up
>no u give up
>grrr
punch punch punch
alright time for the movie from sad immigrants to be projected on the town hall
>k cya then
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>>219941395
What a weird random reference to bring up in this thread
>>>/co/
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Did they explain why/how Vanessa randomly died after drinking pineapple juice
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>>219941427
It's a nice evolution from where they started off where they had passionate hatred for each other but now they're just fucking tired but can't stop either.

The resolution has to be different at this point, whether because Fisk dies or gets raped.
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>>219938155
More importantly why did they develop a grenade with a 60-second fuse and then try to use it against her?
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>>219941536
She mentioned pineapple makes her lips tingle
This is indicative of a mild allergy to pineapple, so when she drank too much pineapple juice, she died
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>>219941536
she went into shock from an allergic reaction, and her being massively drugged up and weak from the surgery made the shock more effective
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>>219941665
Pineapple does that for everyone, cos of the acid or something. I figured they were just mentioning that as her reason for disliking it. Besides, if she had a severe allergy, surely her husband of 10+ years would have known about it.

If its seriously
>Vanessa suicided by pineapple anaphylaxis and fisk went along with it because he didn't know
That's really fucking retarded on several levels
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>>219941707
it's not really a suicide she clearly was on meds and not in the right head space, but fisk even though he was second guessing wanted to do whatever vanessa wanted to be happy
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The black and red mixed together suit is sexy. At first I didn't like that in the season opener it was just the red suit spray painted black (which we never found out why he spray painted it) but now that the paint is chipping off it looks nice.
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>he won't be captured by frank and found impaled and hung from a meat hook in the opening scenes of the punisher special
anything less is an injustice
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>>219941306
Qrd? Did he "make her" watch anything else.
>>219930502
How much screentime does Jessica Jones get in this episode. Season one was kinda mid honestly and I'm not sure I want to watch 5 episodes just to get to her first appearance. Also is she still a based alcoholic?
>>219941391
Any more details of her freakiness?
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>>219942178
1 dialogue scene with daredevil
1 fight scene with daredevil
Probably like 5 minutes of screentime
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Fisk can almost crush spider man. that nigga is strong.
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>>219942429
Kingpin would absolutely raped Spider-Man's bussy.
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This episode sucked
I now holehardedly believe that this show is only good if Dex is in the episode for more than half of its runtime otherwise this shit is just ass
That scene with him and Karen was good btw until that cuck Daredevil showed up
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>>219942847
I think you just want to fuck Wilson Bethel.
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>>219942879
That is not true I admit he is very good looking man but I am not a gay
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>>219938199
is that really what she was talking about? that's pretty funny
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>>219942281
I suspected it might be like this. The defenders probably has more Jessica Jones on average. Are they building her up to be in it more later at least?
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>>219941361
Daniel is status maxxed tho
Specifically at his age
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>>219943064
yea there were a couple of shots in the trailer of jess that haven't happened yet in the show. there's only 2 episodes left though so I can't imagine she has as much screen time as you'd like but she is a main part of season 3 which will release march 2027
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did Matt really have to baton whip his gf's hand like that? I would lose my shit too in her shoes
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>>219943205
Damn looks like I have been successful blue balled into watching this show. Since Fisk has gone cartoonishly evil and the punisher randomly cucks our about his dead family every 15 minutes there is not much hanging this together for me. But I digress.
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>>219943029
No direct mention of the thunderbolts but Charles did try to recruit her for her powers, and Charles does work with/for Val in the CIA. It could be thunderbolts but it could be a different group for darker things (dark avengers, heroes for hire) now that the thunderbolts are a public facing group that are in avengers tower.
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>>219941361
>High rise condo in the most expensive city in the USA. (moneymaxxing)
>Unofficial Heir to the Mayor (statusmaxxing)
>Only male coworker her age range (work husbands are a real thing)
It would be weird if she didn't develop any feelings for him over time with how often they are together.
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>>219930502
I put in my application to the AVTF. Wish me luck.
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>>219930502
Buck and Daniel are the best characters.
White Tiger's mexi-rodent niece, triggered psychologist, and AVTF fake, over the top voice leader guy are annoying.
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>>219943206
>did Matt really have to baton whip his gf's hand like that?
Sometimes ya gotta smack a bitch.
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Bullseye is the only good thing about this show
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>>219943818
The legacy characters remain the best part of the show, and I hope S3 crashes the new cast all in a bus so the show can commit to the characters people actually care about.
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>>219944079
buck and soprano jr can stay
and heather if she stays crazy and hot
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does this season still feel like fanfiction like the last season did?
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>>219933835
> she's trying to resist it, but then why keep him partially naked after treating the wounds?
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>>219944079
honestly they did a really good job with the new cast in the past 5 episodes after not fucking doing anything with them at all in the entirety of the first season. outside of Bullseye and and Fisk/Vanessa, the returning characters feel like they're kind of in an awkward limbo in this season, especially Matt and Karen.
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>Fisk is a villain
>His powers/special trait is that he's big and fat.

Damn, absolute kino.
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>>219944102
>Fanfiction
In what sense? I'd say S2 is an improvement in that it's more focused and the pacing is fairly tight but it still feels half-baked underneath everything. Some great hype moments tho and the flashback ep felt like a nice proper tribute to the Netflix series.
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>>219944150
The new cast is really just Team Kingpin, notice that Cherry, the asian detective, and Kirsten haven't appeared past the first three eps. Loli Tigress is also there I guess.

Matt has literally gone through this season thrice so all they can do with him at this point is have him be "the good guy dude". Karen has been underutilized for most of this season but she finally got some good scenes this episode with her calling out Matt for the no-kill rule.
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OH MY IS THAT HECKIN JESSICA JONES
REDDIT WE DID IT
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>>219933160
Yep, that setup sounds exactly like something they would resolve with Bullseye protecting Karen.
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>>219944266
yeah I guess its not so much "old cast vs new cast" and more "matt's gang vs fisk's team (and bullseye)" and as far as intrigue goes the latter just runs laps around the former that it's not even funny
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>>219933188
kino even if the cgi was shit
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>>219935011
>nepo baby
Barely, his dad's been dead for like two decades.
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>>219932376
Power Man and Iron Fist are supposed to be best buds, they just never got to that point on their shows. Should have been just one for Heroes for hire.
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>>219932771
Don't piss off a tall fat fuck. They get retard strong, especially when they're hungry.
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>>219933543
womeme get wet over shit like this yet in society they're portrayed as being innocent and not horny
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>>219944426
Oh eat shit you disingenuous prick. This fat nobody wouldn't be an actor if his last name wasn't James Gandolfini, Jr.
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>>219937696
FUCKING MARVEL, why would they add that
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>>219933614
I mean, they exaggerated his proportions for the cover, it's not meant to be to scale.
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>>219940044
Venous leak is the most common cause of ED in men between ages of 16 and 35, caused by constant masturbation.
Luckily, now it's easily treatable with either your own platelets injection into the base of the dick or ultrasound applied to the same area(4-10 treatments, $80 a pop).
I used to pop cialis like fucking tictacs until the ultrasound.
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>>219937959
>Fisk is out of the office
>Daniel moves to New Jersey and starts this other pygmy thing there
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>>219933799
Typhoid Mary mite b kewl
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>>219942879
No anon, I want him to fuck me
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>>219933977
I think reality ran you over, ate your lunch and laughed at you.
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>>219935011
I think I only like him because he looks exactly like his da.
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>>219944478
Because the team of fags and women writing it thought "omg shopping and fashion" and marvel was too scared of being sat on by the whales to say no
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Wonder-Man was better than this. Not even as a backhanded jest, that show was great because it knew exactly what it wanted to be, while Born Again is still trying to find its footing between being a loyal Netflix Daredevil revival and its own thing as essentially Zack Snyder on TV.
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>governor (above fisk on the totem pole) mad at fisk
>attorney general (man in charge of putting criminals in jail) mad at fisk
>cia (organisation who assassinates anyone who mildly inconveniences them) mad at fisk
why doesnt someone simply get rid of fisk? are they stupid?
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>>219944762
Zack Snyder wishes he could write characters half as good as these.
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>>219939879
Was this doctor to the dumbest mother fucker of all time?
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>buck asking crazy heather to choke him
we might have a new literally me
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>>219933977
No one talks about the lack of stakes. Why does it matter if daredevil beats kingpin again? He'll just randomly get out of prison again whenever the story needs it. There are no consequences for anything.
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>>219944889
Perhaps the only way to end the Kingpin without killing him is to rape him
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>>219943249
>the thunderbolts are a public facing group that are in avengers tower.
they were never the thunderbolts in the mcu tho. i don't think the new avengers need one more member who punches hard.
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>>219930502
I gave up on S1 of Born Again halfway through because it was so garbage and nothing like the Netflix kino. And then these threads kept insisting that THIS season was a return to form, so I gave it a chance.

It still fucking sucks. The music, choreography, cinematography, the way characters talk and interact, the special effects. EVERYTHING is off. Dialogue between characters feels too quick and weightless, like they're all rushing through their lines. Charlie Cox now has to play a retarded character and the ever present lines on his forehead aren't helping. I should be excited about the Netflix characters like Karen and Dex interacting but it just pisses me off even more because it reminds me of how great the show was over there. And Daredevil now only goes to church as a hideout? He used to dwell on his crisis of faith in the cathedral, talk with the priest, go to confessional, or simply perch on the roof and it all worked. I'm not even a christcuck and I'm pissed at how they're handling this. Not to mention the D+ new characters not sticking at all. Hot milfy shrink who's going crazy with PTSD, the CIA guy, nepo Gandolfini, Ben Urich's zoomer niece. None of them are convincing. Except maybe the Brit guy, Buck Cashman.
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>>219944775
well because the governor and attorney general are just now getting mad at fisk, last episode the governor said she was willing to work with fisk because vanessa was still around. it's now that vanessa is gone and nobody is keeping him in check that the governor and attorney general want him gone.
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>>219938199
>>219943029
>>219943249
It's very heavily implied that her husband Luke signed up for the glowie project instead, which makes even less sense for them to send a kill squad for her and the daughter. Everything about this show is so fucking STUPID.
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>>219944889
Because this time matt and bullseye will be in prison with him making sure he doesn't leave. Also kingpin being in jail even for a little bit gives other crime bosses like tombstone and vulture to rise up the ranks.
>>219945128
When I first heard that I assumed it was the woman friend from her show that got jealous of jess powers then eventually got her own powers I forget her name. Luke being in the glowie project doesn't make sense I agree which is why I don't think she was talking about him.
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Matt Murdock has a Fat Furrcock
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>>219945205
It could be Trish or even Danny (they really named their kid after the white nepo rich kid lmfao) but the way Matt went "oh..." when she said it made me think it was someone even closer to her than those two
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>>219945128
I think it was probably hell cat who signed up
Luke wouldn't really make sense because of: >>219945128 but who knows, maybe that'll be the explanation for where Power Black and Danny Fist were this whole time when they show up next season
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>>219945128
>which makes even less sense for them to send a kill squad for her and the daughter.
I mean isn't it the point that Mr. Charles is untrustworthy and has no qualms about rewarding loyalty with murder? Luke seems to still be the Kingpin of Harlem in the S3 set photos so we'll see.
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>>219945246
>Karen had a gun in all of these scenes
It's crazy how badly top mogs the other two. What is this ugly hazy filter Feige insists on putting in all the D+ capeshit shows?
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>>219945246
did he not say it in the church scene where he killed Father?
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>>219945128
>>219945455
>kill squad
I figured that if it's Luke maybe he's refusing to go along with some of CIA's demands, so they wanted to capture his family alive as leverage. Still a dumb scene though. Yeah let's send a bunch of non-superpowered regular ops to capture a known superpowered woman. You'd think they would have an asset who can handle shit like that, like how Harrison Ford had Mossad Black Widow in his security team.
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>>219945482
it's even in the starwars d+ shit it's not just an mcu d+ thing
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When karen sat on Dex lap making eye contact with him that was fucking hot and when dex leaned in closer to her... Matt is seriously losing his bitch to a schizo.
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>>219946015
that's the real reason karen wanted to shoot him in the head
she knows she'll eventually have to fuck him
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>>219946015
>losing his bitch
Matt and Karen haven't had chemistry since S2 of Netflix. Since then she has shown more sexual tension with eyrick and Dex, guys who are dangerous. Like animals. This show is very instructional
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>>219930502
Kek, i had no idea this bullshit was even on
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>>219945405

Yeah i could see TV hellcat go for a corpo deal.
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>>219932111
The doctor was awfully touchy feely and start spewing random quotes
No grieving person would like that especially not from a stranger
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>>219930502
was it just me or was kisten ritter's acting like, weird? off,idk. it felt stillted. and charlie's acting was off too. did they give them like no time to prepare? is that the best takes they could get? especially after hyping her up so much. its like they still werent sure if marvel would allow them to use the netflix stuff still. wasnt season 2 done with the idea they had approval for that?
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>>219946620
nobody involved with either of their netflix shows is working on born again
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>>219932771
Im going to assume that with all the super soldier serum shit going around, at some point he got some low dose super steroids. also he knew that chinese the hand lady, maybe in his travels he picked up some shit about chi and energy or whatever. i think in the comics, at least some continuity, he was stated to be like kind of a mutant, as in x men mutants, hence his weird super dense muscular body.
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>>219946620
The acting and character direction have been stilted for pretty much everybody in the show
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>>219934532
>Rabbit in a Snowstorm
Had to Google the painting's name beforehand. Did you know this before?
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>>219934259
Why didn't Karen use that dead lil beans facemask bandana to cover her hair
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>>219946620
Charlie's acting was always off his accent slips all the time
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>>219946834
Yeah! They says it a lot on Reddit
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>>219946834
pretty sure they mentioned the name last episode in the flashback
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>>219934885
>wtf fisk killed the doctor. how will he get away with that? the stuff he gets away with is retarded. spider-man needs to rip his head off.
>>219935097
mcu spider-man would cry and call his professor Hulk to help him with queenpin
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Racemix: Born Again
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Daredevil: Miscegnate Again
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>>219936307
>iron fist
jesus, I forgot it even existed
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Is this show supposed to be about DareDevil?
I'm not sure anymore.
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>>219937078
wouldn't it be funny if kingpin had a small willy
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>>219947160
This is the most Daredevil we've gotten since Defenders.
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>>219937808
>twitter
>women
>these freaks whose names are named after a show and have a pfp of a character
grim
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>>219935130
Yeah that and Kingpins head being knees by Daredevil looked like something out of Arrow or The Flash
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>>219942032
he would be the punisher in another universe
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>>219947237
Previous seasons were about DareDevil (the character), Matt is probably the character with the least amount of screentime this season.
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all the womeme characters are shit
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>>219947411
Supposedly he's a villainized amalgamation of both Darkhawks in the comics



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