it's a show for women, by women

>>219939841
I watch it with my gf it's pretty boring especially after they leave Scotland

>>219939841
>he doesn't remember the Blackjack rape spam
newfag

>>219939919
We walk among you
>>219939955
There is a comedic amount of rape to be fair

I can’t watch anything that’s made for women

>>219940088
Missing out

I couldn't make it past the episode where she sings and dances and invents rock and roll

>>219939841
it's an isekai for women anon. You'd know if you talked to your mom (and sister if you have one). They literally can't shut up about it.
Now the question is, do you want to be a woman, anon?

>>219939841
Yeah, I'm multiple seasons behind. Which is pretty fucking stupid of me considering there was still an entire revolutionary war to be fought when I left off.
Also Catriona Balfe is absolutely *fantastic* at using the word "fuck".

>>219939841
My mum likes it. I watched 6 episodes, but it seems kind of boring

>>219940125
>it's an isekai for women anon
/tv/'s in large part an isekai for sissyish midwit men

>>219940199
>but it seems kind of boring
Something is wrong with the male brain

>>219939841
MAN ON MAN RAPE

>>219939841
watched the first season and it was so unsatisfying
i cant remember much but these shows hinge on the buildup of finally getting back or using shit you know from the future in the past and i felt it squandered it
and as others have said it really felt like a show tailor made for waterstones smutslop readers
the fact that the story hasnt wrapped up in the 10 years its been airing should tell you all you need to know about its quality

>>219940217
I mean it didnt seem to be building up to anything.
Its like a dude who speaks latin going back in time to Rome and starting from scratch

>>219940233
>the fact that the story hasnt wrapped up in the 10 years its been airing should tell you all you need to know about its quality
Its a season per book
>>219940255
What the fuck would it need to be "building up to"?
Do you want her to go back in time and change the past by riding in the Jacobite rebellion like Joan of Arc?
It's just a story about being trapped in a strange land and being conflicted between going back to the life you knew and starting over again here. I'd have thought that was blindingly obvious by the fact they gave the unrepentant psychopath the face of her husband, undermining her ability to see the man she loved the same way again

>>219940348
>Do you want her to go back in time and change the past by riding in the Jacobite rebellion like Joan of Arc?
There's a certain type of poster on /tv/ would absolutely love that because of the opportunity it'd afford them to bitch about how dreadfully the series was oppressing them.

>>219940233
>i cant remember much but these shows hinge on the buildup of finally getting back or using shit you know from the future in the past
Lol, anon, the mc is a woman, she doesn't care about that shit. Her relationship with an 18th century chad is way more important.

>>219940474
>the mc is a woman, she doesn't care about that shit.
She literally does care about it though

>>219939841
It's a great premise and generally really good show hampered by being told from a woman's point of view. I watched many of the early seasons because it was strong enough to overcome that, but it was tedious at times. There are great moments though. It would be interesting to see what this show might have been like with a more neutral point of view.

>ITT: men who are literally incapable of empathizing with a woman

>>219940348
Because just wondering around is boring

>>219940534
what sex position is empathizing

>>219940538
>Because just wondering around is boring
*wandering
And there's plenty going on narratively, I'm seriously starting to think you haven't watched it

>>219940546
Like all sex positions, it's one you haven't tried

>>219940546
Unwashed medieval missionary

>>219940348
>What the fuck would it need to be "building up to"?
what do you mean? did the author have an ending thought out when they started or did they just intend for the story to be a perpetual 18th century emmerdale of nothing really happening

>>219940077
BOBS NOW

>>219940592
I dipped out when she drank from the river of truth or whatever and the bald guy didnt kill her.
I want to give it another go, and I dont need it to be GoT tier

>>219940428
what the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>219939841
>itt: foid mad we don't like aimless slop

>>219940610
The author probably had an ending in mind and then the series took off
>perpetual 18th century emmerdale of nothing really happening
So remarkably incorrect it can only be the result of not having watched the show or diagnosable insanity
>>219940698
>she drank from the river of truth or whatever
It's blatantly local superstition, are you dumb? Throughout the season up to that point she's been dealing with the fact that these backwards people believe healing is magic and demons are real, and none of it's true, and yet she does seem to have been magically transported into the past. In that very fucking scene she scoffs at the idea that the water is magic, and he comments that as a healer she must believe in magic.

>>219939841
>watch for the sweeping historical stuff and comfy rural life
>production values are good and the show looks great
>99% is just the main character getting hysterical and getting upset with her perfect husband for no good reason over childish shit like 'would you love me if I was a worm' , requiring constant reassurance followed by copious amounts of sex scenes and disturbing rape and forced gay shit on the male characters which clearly is thinly veiled meant to be tittilating and who aren't human in the slightest and only exist as perfect stoic figures to be there for the woman
It's impossible to watch the show and not think of the self-obsessed hamburglar middle aged women sitting there touching themselves watching this. Just a frightening look into the female psyche. I've never watched so much of a show just coping that it will get back to comfy shit only to be disappointed every time, but now the sunk cost fallacy is so much that I'm gonna have to finish it.

>>219940734
t. """slice of life""" anime gooner

>>219940783
>It's blatantly local superstition
Yeah I got that you daft twat, it was quicker to say it my way.
Everything you said was not a mystery to me. Its predictable.
"Oh, this doofus has ailment x, I can show how valuable I am by giving him substance y, oh, if only these poor fools could resolve their differences"
Its like an all White version of a White going to Africa and being the initially unappreciated White saviour. Shes OP and smart and ... she does what you would expect and what you expect to happen happens.
Bar the other dude having her husbands face, nothing that happened so far was surprising I guess, thats why it was boring to me.

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>>219940904
>Its like an all White version of a White going to Africa and being the initially unappreciated White saviour
Yeah that's what rural Scotland was like. It's exceptionally historically accurate in that the Scots are a fucking backwards people and they got dragged kicking and screaming into modernity by the Englishman and they have resented the English for it ever since

>>219940515
This. It unironically made me start taking the "male gaze" serioudly by seeing the female equivalent. At the same time I'd be okay with this show existing for the women audience if we actually still got the same for men anymore.But the only historical men shit is gray and drab vikings/last kingdom shit. If we had our contemporary Sharpe then whatever, let them have their smut.

>>219940895
>>219940987
All I'm hearing is that men have spent their entire lives not understanding women, and then they see a story from a woman's point of view and its like discovering a new species to them
You know women don't have this problem with male media right?

>>219940998
This entire thread is you not understanding why men think this show you hold so dearly is shit

>>219940900
yeah you mad, seething even
sorry your roastslop doesn't even compare to anime or whatever

I've always wanted to give this a shot, but the description makes it seem like it's some time-travel shit.

I love period dramas, but hate time-travel. Can I enjoy this?

>>219940998
>You know women don't have this problem with male media right?
that's because male media is actually good

>>219941005
I can articulate why you're wrong, all you have is:
>women show for women
>boring (with no justification at all)
>I saw a female perspective and didn't like it
It's hardly the peak of critique. It comes across as toddlers refusing their dinner.
Here comes the airplane, anon! Look! John Wick shot 100 guys remorselessly because someone vaguely connected to them made him sad! Is dat awl better?

>>219941018
She time travels from 1940s, it's firmly a period drama

>>219941022
Lel see first reply

>>219941050
Do you understand that if you repace the MC with a man doing the exact same thing essentially, lots of people would find it kind of boring?

>>219939841
It's extremely well done and probably better than GoT overall, and the casting of the new prequel series is scarily good. But it is a coom show for women ultimately so it's appeal is limited

>>219941136
Almost like men and women are different.
Almost like the fact she's a woman and inherently has less agency due to the time the story takes place is a key part of the narrative

Its like stargate if jackson went through a stargate but just wandered around with a random group of villagers and his wifes face was the face of some evil woman in another tribe and he was a scribe who taught people science facts
>>219941150
>hmmf, you cant do X youre a woman!
>does it
>hmmm, not bad... for a woman
Repeat ad nauseum, its boring

>>219939841
All I need to know is: are there any third worlders in it, or is it historically accurate? If the latter, I'll give it a go.

>>219941179
>>hmmf, you cant do X youre a woman!
>>does it
>>hmmm, not bad... for a woman
>Repeat ad nauseum, its boring
Literally didn't happen

>>219940998
You're the worst ambassador for women by trying to defend indulgent thinly veiled repetitive porn for women as 'good actually, it's just that men can't understand'

>>219941232
It happened in almost each episode I watched bar the first one

this show would be loved by tv since they love joker 2

>>219941240
every ambassador women have is doing worse and worse for all women, considering they always need some women from twitter sharing their thoughts

>>219941050
>I can articulate why you're wrong, all you have is:
refute this post >>219940895

>>219940348
yeah that sounds like a show for women

>>219941399
Bet
>99% is just the main character getting hysterical and getting upset with her perfect husband for no good reason over childish shit like 'would you love me if I was a worm'
Completely untrue. Especially in season 1 fucking none of that at all. Claire is actually exceptionally independent and spends that season emotionally detached from every other character, and they likewise don't connect to her emotionally until after the wedding because they're all too concerned with who the fuck she is and whether she's a spy
>requiring constant reassurance
Even if this were true, and it's not, what would be wrong with it?
>followed by copious amounts of sex scenes
And? Didn't hear you crying about that in Game of Thrones
>and disturbing rape
The only legitimate critique here, the amount of rape is comical and she can hardly be alone with a man without him at least suggesting that he would fuck her
>and forced gay shit on the male characters
Happened like one time
>which clearly is thinly veiled meant to be tittilating
Disagree
>and who aren't human in the slightest and only exist as perfect stoic figures to be there for the woman
The men of the series aren't stoic at all, they're volatile and scary half the time.

Now what?

Why argue with a dumb hamplanet?
Theres a reason /tv/ never talks about this show
Its shite

The theme song is goated and carries like half the show

>>219941995
>Say could that lass be I...

>>219941575
Not quite. Just like the books, it was only once they left Scotland that it became shite. Also pretty sure the author has a rape fetish.

>>219942060
>Also pretty sure the author has a rape fetish.
If I remember right, literally every member of the protagonist's inner circle and family gets raped at least once. It's ridiculous.

>>219942060
>>219942088
>Also pretty sure the author has a rape fetish.
Something men don't understand is that women are turned on by rape but don't want it to happen to them.
It's a quirk of evolution. Conquered women get raped or they die. The one that die don't produce offspring, so evolution selects for women that surrender to rape, even if only passively. This can develop as a fascination in someone women who find the idea of being raped shamefully arousing, but in reality would not wish it to happen.
I don't think there's a single thing that is comparable in the male psyche

>>219941486
Appreciate it.
>Especially in season 1
Season 1 was good
>Even if this were true, and it's not, the later seasons you see her repeat the same pattern over and over again no matter how many times Jaime shows his loyalty and how much of an ultra chad he is. The fact that you're adamant to not agree on this point just makes it hard to reply to anymore since we're just watching a completely different show at that point or you're dishonest
>, what would be wrong with it?
It's selfish, you demand a ton of emotional labor from your partner just because it makes you feel good, and not thinking of what a strain it is on him, and never able to learn from it and reward him for his good behavior because you want that drama and emotional high of coming together afterwards again, it's immature and taxing for your partner, not to mention it makes for really boring tv as you watch her suspect him of infidelity for the nth time or not loving her anymore despite him having done the most chivalrous and sacrifical shit.
>And? Didn't hear you crying about that in Game of Thrones
hbo shows having too much sex has been a common complaint for a lot of it, difference is in Outlander they happen all the fucking time and go on for ages.
>The only legitimate critique here,
good to see we agree on something
>which clearly is thinly veiled meant to be tittilating
>Disagree
Oh come on, Jaime being strung up by the terror guy's face and Claire just having to get raped, iwith the show being so smut-core already it's very hard to not see this as a thinly veiled fetish of the author.
>The men of the series aren't stoic at all
Okay bro.Beyond early seasons, Jaime and that english gay governor (also a thinly veiled fetish character who inevitably has to sleep with claire and talk about sleeping with jaime) are literally just created to stand around talking about the women in their lives and be ever so reliable and stoic. How they feel about the women is like 90%

>>219939841
>isekai

>>219940125
I talked to my mom a couple of weeks ago and she was raving about how good this show was kek

>>219939841
the first season was alright, but then after that it goes off the rails into womanslop territory. jamie gets but raped by brutus, etc. no idea what has happened since the 3rd season (2nd season was bad too), i assume it keeps getting worse

>>219940998
True. Women can watch male media and still not understand men, but when men watch women media they begin to understand women. What’s up with that?

>>219940077
YWNBAW

How different is it from the books?

>>219943129
>the first season was alright, but then after that it goes off the rails into womanslop territory. jamie gets but raped by brutus, etc. no idea what has happened since the 3rd season (2nd season was bad too), i assume it keeps getting worse
You are correct sir. the writing becomes like a cheap soap opera. nothing matters, it's just neverending nonsense. 1st season, at that point it was a show that hetero couples could watch, and both get horny over it. something that men could tolerate it. oh yeah there was a woman character that shows up and she starts squeezing milk from her tits into a cup. a relative to Jamie. i think it was real. magical scene.

>>219942144
I see it a little different. Perhaps women form power fantasies based off their own value. For instance, a Stacy who's a 7 or above will focus on high value men with community because she knows that's true power and will rarely throw away that lifestyle for some face tatted gangster fetish so it inevitably subsides. A 6 or below or ANY girl with a face tat knows they cant ever achieve that power so many will avoid fantasies of unobtainable social power and will go with the thug with rapist tendencies so they can wrap him around their finger and in doing so can placate to more immediate fantasies of him bashing someone's head for them which is power in their eyes and these men are more prone to rape.

But you're correct, they all want the murderous rapist Khal Drogo warchief that they can control, it's their ultimate fantasy while us men just want a happy harem for our ultimate fantasy

>>219939841
Watched the first season when it first aired, it wasn't bad from what I remember but kinda forgot that the whole show existed after that.
Crazy that it's still going on

>>219940123
>yer bairns'll canny it

>>219940895
I heard in the books, when Jaime gets blackmailed for sex the woman inevitably has him pullout and pushes him away. In a fit of rage he goes on to rape her. This might be the closest I've ever seen to justifiable rape and I give the author points for that, fetish or not.

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>ctrl-f: rape
>20 results

>>219943740
Do that on the scripts for the show and there will be thousands of results

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>>219943483
>they all want the murderous rapist Khal Drogo warchief that they can control
Men who are aware of this and go and fake defend their girlfriend over some bullshit and start acting like male karens against other men just so their wife watching on will get wet is the most cringe shit and should lead to your manhood status being revoked. Equally bad that the women will just throw all decency or embarassment over their husband acting against another person nvm that he's being an asshole because they're entranced by the fantasy of "wow, he's standing up for me, just like in my romcoms"

>>219939841
>guy in skirt
tranny show

>>219939841
Times when OP was a 40 something year old woman.

>>219939841
I watched five minutes of the first episode and immediately deduced it was girlporn

>>219943780
No, we try not to use the same word too often. Lessens the effect

>>219943831
Men who are aware of that don’t do the male-karen act.

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>>219940928
We were both backwards savages, the only difference is that you anglos were molested by the romans into being civilized, we weren't.
Now you're being molested by pakis. (and us too I suppose)
If this is modernity you should have left us in the highlands. I hate the government so fucking much.

>>219939841
>wokeslop
I hate joos.

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>>219943780
not him but the first 7 seasons.
although didn't use match whole word, so there was at least one false positive that i noticed "scraped".

>>219943974
it's obvious they do it to get the approval from their wives by the self aware smug looks they give off after, like "look at the good job I did", sometimes you just know

>>219943740
Wtf why would Commander Fitzjames do this?

>>219939841
The spinoff is good too

>>219944042
What site?

>>219944042
actually here's the full list of lines not in any order that i could find which contain rape or raped

But Mary, she was assaulted and raped.
It's hardly her fault she was raped.
<i>Alex Randall hadn't raped Mary Hawkins,</i>
then raped her friend.
take a wife by means of rape
Throat, down scrape, aye.
<i>Mary, she was assaulted and raped.</i>
that simply having you raped
a vulgar thing as a rape.
Rape was your idea.
She was raped.
Mebbe it wasn't rape at all.
Ye said he'd raped ye of yer virtue.
She was raped.
my daughter, she was raped.
Raped.
Brianna was raped by Stephen Bonnet?
rape.
was it rape?
I don't hold with rape.
<i>kidnapped, and nearly raped.</i>
raped by one of the soldiers
And other than this, uh, this near rape,
decided to rape a stray lady traveler
Is there ever a good reason for rape,
want with rape, Dougal.
No rape. Persuasion.
Raped.

>>219944159
not site. i downloaded all the subtitles, opened those in notepad++ and searched from all open documents

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The premise sounded interesting but I read ahead to get a gist on the trajectory and yea it goes nowhere and is one of those 'make it up as you go series' with no predetermined story in mind so I didn't bother.

Women don't know how to write proper isekai/time slip stories.
They should adapt this into a short, maybe it already has been, haven't checked.

>>219939841
Isn't this a rape show?

>>219939841
isnt this show for women or something

>>219939841
>/tv/ never talks about it
I never talked about it because I am heterosexual. They talk about this on reddit though. Hurry and dont miss the conversation!

Anon, the show is about cuckolding and rape fantasies. Everything in the show is window dressing for cuckolding and rape fantasies. It's softcore porn for middle-aged women that want to be taken by rich, powerful men and kept as their submissive love slaves because the rich men just can't control themselves while their husbands raise the resulting kids far, far away, still pining for them day and night while masturbating with their old panties. No shade from me, just not my thing.

>>219939841
It's a romance novel about time travelling adultery and light bdsm anon.

>>219939841
That shit is fucking evil and if you were able to finish the first episode you need to die