Is he the worst character ever conceived?
>>219955600maybe.
>>219955600He's a great character but a lot of the audience cannot analyze with any more depth than "the cool guy is in the right" so they don't percieve how often Mike is wrong about stuff. I think they tried to explicitly address this in BCS by having Nachos dad just straight up tell him "you aren't any better than the other criminals".
I hate contrarians, Mike is a great character. He's entertaining and that's what matters.
>>219955600Worst I can think of
He's solid.
>>219955600he's the most unc-coded character at least. And he gets a pass because so many other characters on that show were more infuriating.>Skylar>Marie>Retard son>Jesse>Jesse's drug-dealing friends>Hank
>>219955600Military grade
>>219955735>I hate contrarians, Mike is a great characterMike is a contrarian.
>>219955911got news for you, pal. you're not the guy.
Ok, OP, here's what you gonna do. You're going to delete the thread, you're going to go to Youtube and you're gonna type "Breaking Bad Mike badass moments". You're gonna watch the video, and you are going to like it and leave comment on it.Then you are coming back to /tv/ and make a thread about how cool Mike is, got it? Repeat what I said,
>>219955600Do they ruin him in BCS? He's mostly ok in breaking bad.
>>219955600Same character but in movie.
>>219955911yeah, but on 4chan
>>219956156*not
>>219955600not according to your friends and family.
>>219956147Scary guy, according to the Seinfeld extras.
>>219955600i started jokingly talking like him watching BCS, then continued when watching BB albeit slowly morphing the voice. Now it's my voice and I walk with a limp now and I can't stop because everyone at work thinks that's just the way I am send help plz
>>219955600Is there any point you are trying to make besides making a shit thread?I can't see one so the answer is no.
>>219955865>unc-coded characterCome on anon. You're better than this.
>>219955600lol no. The Expanse has numbers 1-4 on that list.
>>219956384I can vouch for him personally. He's solid.
>>219955600No that would be Marie Skyler is a bitch but she isn't as much as an unnecessary drama queen as her
>>219956120He becomes a Mary Sue in BCS unfortunately. Gus and Mike are the worst characters in the prequel
>>219955600he's treated like some gary stu that can do all , like he can kill a man with his bear hands despite being like 80 years old
>>219955600He's a bad character only if you believe the show is trying to tell you that he is a good person. He's a morally grey character in a show with other morally grey characters
>>219956109Ok. Now. Pay attention. This isn’t complicated. You put your right arm in… you take your right arm out. You put your right arm in. And. You shake it all about. You do the Hokey Pokey. You turn yourself around. That’s what it’s all about.
>>219955600He's a silent generation and baby boomer power fantasy
>>219955600Not my call.
>>219955600>Nooooo my heckin' daughterino working one of the most profitable professions for a single mother somehow can't afford rent I have to le kill people because I threw away a job that offered a hefty pension because I have le morals even though all I do is kill people at the behest of a child-murdering drug peddler!Power fantasy character for boomers
>>219955600Vince created him by accident, but loved Jonathan Banks so much that turned him into a deuteragonist in BCS. I respect Vince for just doing something he enjoys with his friends. Apparently he also like Kim so he made the new show with her as the protagonist just because he likes her. Vince is basically Adam Sandler.
>>219955600>the worst character ever conceivedThat would be Faguizamo's The Pest
>>219961998>Character is meant to be an annoying prick>I hate him, he's an annoying prick!Do you also hate evil characters because they're evil?
>>219955735The problem with a character like Mike, someone who solves problems with calm experience and common sense, is that you have to surround them retards.
>>219955911How do I know you weren't just being contrarian when you said that and that Mike is really not contrarian
>80 year old gramp beats the shit out of the muscle-head thugs.Sounds about right.
>>219955600That'd be the wooden robot that is Kim Wexler
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>>219955735No, he's annoying as shit, particularly in Better Call Saul. He's porn for old divorced guys to imagine themselves as badasses. He does really stupid, pointless shit just to show how tough he is when in reality he's just being stupid. Like when he deliberately doesn't bring a guy to that meetup or whatever and the guys like, "If you're so tough, knock this gun out of my hand" and he does it. What what the fucking point of not bringing a gun? Just to show how cool he is? I hate him.
>shoots the Asian warehouse manager he's supposed to be protecting for no reasonweird and racist
>>219962623Would not be surprised if boomers genuinely think they can fight off beaner gangsters with nothing but a firm handshake and a 1911
>>219962623You'd be surprised how weak latinos are.
>>219955600Peak Boomer power fantasy. >yeah I served in Vietnam as a super duper top secret commando sniper ,which means I know karate and can fight off 8 20 year old black thugs at once even though I’m pushing 70 >also I’m an ex-cop who has a moral code even though I work for drug dealers (but it’s ok because I do everything for my fambly so the suffering I inflict is mitigated).
Boomer porn for aging losers.
>>219955600I don’t think he’s a bad character, hating Walt and looking past the flaws of Gus are consistent with how Mike acts. For me Jesse is worse because he’s willing to die to kill those 2 gangbangers, but then works directly under their boss a few months later. Walt has to remind him they killed that kid.
>>219964644>"Heh a tough old bastard like me who pulled himself up by his bootstraps could take on all those thugs!">"Aiiiieeeee my obese Guatemalan nurse has gotten sick of my shit and is beating me to death with a bedpan, save me Bidenman!"
>>219955600He's a very well written selfish hypocrite. The problem is when the audience treats what he says and does as if they are gospels, coming straight from the lord almighty.
>>219964959Kek, many such cases happening everyday
>>219964548there's been numerous videos over the years of boglings attacking wiypipo old men with grey beards and them being beaten to a pulp then whining for an amber lampsthere's also a few vids of them being shot down.
>>219964969I think a large majority of BB fans treat his last speech as sacrosanct because they just watched the show from YouTube clips, and don’t know the real reason Walt and Gus’ relationship fell through was because he murdered two of Gus’ employees to save Jesse.
>>219965475Not sure it's fair to say they just watched YouTube clips, it's more that a large portion of general audiences are always looking for a character to be the 'voice of truth', to be the one that tells them what they are supposed to think of events and other characters. Sometimes it's a little more nuanced than that where multiple characters slots into the role depending on the context and situation.
>>219965475>I think a large majority of BB fans treat his last speech as sacrosanct because they just watched the show from YouTube clips,Reminder that sam hyde hates breaking bad because he saw some YouTube shorts of it be didn't like.
>That's up to you>Not my call>You're not the guy>We're boned>Oh yeah..
>>219955600He's fine in Breaking Bad up until the end of the Gus part. They tried to make him seem so ridiculously tough and badass in BCS, but it didn't work because Jonathan Banks looked geriatric at the start of the series and it only got worse from there.
>>219955600He’s a great character, iqlet
>>219955735Not your call
>>219970551>>219955600I think Mike is great. I will defend him
>>219956109>Repeat what I said,>I AM GAY AND ADDICTED TO CHUGGING COCKWhy would I want to repeat anything you say?
Mike was cool in Breaking Bad where he was a morally ambigious characterIn Better Call Saul they turned him into a Mary Sue good guy with a tragic backstory
>>219961882Anyone who doesn't know how to make a fist should be shot
>>219955600I'm sorry but it's just not /tv/s call
>>219963606>Like when he deliberately doesn't bring a guy to that meetup or whatever and the guys likeHe's got guys and his guys are solid.
>>219964697>>also I’m an ex-cop who has a moral code even though I work for drug dealers (but it’s ok because I do everything for my fambly so the suffering I inflict is mitigated).To be fair, Mike's plan you're alluding to here canonically ends in total failure with the feds getting all the money he intended for his family after he's killed. Both shows have people who try to do "crime for good" (Mike, Walt, Saul, Kim) have it blow up in their faces along with all their excuses.
>>219956236Not scary. Just annoying and pure retarded
>>219962623He is not 80 in universe.
>>219972223He is not a good guy, Nacho's dad is a good guy.
>>219965475Jesse was a junkie as far as Gus was concerned. Walter caused an internal conflict with the junkie he forced into the organization.
>>219955701Àm I retarted or is this not what happened when he told his father that nacho had perished
>>219955701Bcs is worse because they kept having him being a moral fag and spending more time with his daughter to make him more sympathetic. >>219957254I didnt really mind Marie's neuroticism. It kind of was a reflection of how much Marie and Hank support eachother through eachothers bullshit vs Walter and Skyler who are both incredibly selfish people. The real difference between Marie and Skyler is that Marie is willing to give enthusiastic hand jobs.
>>219973268Gus accepted the risk, then baited Walt back in with Jessie. Then used Jessie to replace Walt. Walt knew how to tard wrangle jessie more than Gus did, thats why he ended up winning.
