>Favreau shoots it in the same portrait-mode style framing as so many Netflix shows, with each character practically speaking to the camera against a blurry background that recreates the feeling of a Zoom meeting
>...nothing in this first 15 minutes makes me feel optimistic about the remaining two hours I still haven't seen.
>Heck, even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith and Kylo Ren slaughtering randos on Mustafar in The Rise of Skywalker left an impact. By comparison, The Mandalorian and Grogu feels soulless and limp. I highly doubt that in another 50 years, Star Wars fans will talk about Mando taking down AT-AT Walkers the way they still do Luke Skywalker tangling with the Empire on Hoth.
>Hopefully, I'm wrong. Star Wars really needs a win, but I'm still not convinced The Mandalorian and Grogu is it.
https://www.polygon.com/the-mandalorian-and-grogu-opening-scene-description/

>>219973697
Disney spent over $4 billion acquiring Star Wars only for interest in the IP to plummet after only their second film. If the Mandalorian movie tanks, shareholders will want a few executive heads to roll which is causing an industry-wide panic amongst those who have the means to fund articles like the one in Polygon

>>219973697
It looks like their plans of replacing the American audience with the Chinese one went bust.

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GROGU!!!!!!

>>219973735
>shareholders will want a few executive heads to roll
They get a big severance and then fail up into another c-suite
yawn

>>219973727
>Kylo Ren slaughtering randos on Mustafar
wat

>>219973697
Who deserve the rope more, Marvel fans or Star Wars fans?

>>219973752
Thank god for that. The blatant chink pandering in movies for a stretch was so fucking eye-rolling. Anytime they went to China for seemingly no reason, or there was some chink actress randomly shoehorned into the main cast with next to no speaking lines and I’m sure there’s a chink cut where they’re basically the main character, I would think “Gee, I wonder if Tencent had any money in this”.

>>219974565
Real Star Wars fans moved on ages ago. All that remain are shills, and even they’re a dying breed.

>>219973697
Now they are worried? Future? What future?

>>219973697
the 3 sequel movies they made wernt that good. I mean they looked cool graphics wise, but something about them, I just didn't feel anything, constantly get bored and turn them off.
I gave the mandalorian show a try, and I actually enjoyed that more than their 3 movies. that actually caught my interest. maybe because it has that retro feel of the old movies and they matched the style because it takes place after the original 3 movies and before the sequels. so I do want to try watching the mando movie
I tryed watching andor last night because I see people praise it online. I got 2 episodes in and it was so fucking boring and gay, I'm not going to continue

>>219973727
>with each character practically speaking to the camera against a blurry background that recreates the feeling of a Zoom meeting
That's because they're filming in a spherical set that is comprised entirely of huge fucking screens, on which they display a digital set rendered in a videogame graphics engine, called UE5.

>>219973752
But they did nothing to pander to china

>>219973752
Which is insane because like with former Soviet/Eastern bloc countries, they have no cultural memory of Star Wars, ergo no built-in audience that would either see them out of obligation or because it was something they had some knowledge of. In a practical sense it meant that the movies had to stand on their merits alone, and those merits weren't there. A lot of my Chinese friends, for whom these movies were their introduction to Star Wars, couldn't grasp why the west was so enamoured with them. To them the movies were subpar science-fantasy slop with more emphasis on diversity than telling a good story.

If they had made better movies, they probably would have done better in China.

>>219973727
>even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith left an impact
nigga, wat? that’s a great sequence that pretty much everyone agrees is good

Star Wars used to be big deal. Whether you liked the prequels or not you have to recognize that they really were labors of love with everyone involved putting in maximum effort.

>>219973697
Because everyone knows Star Wars is shit, but like Solo this has a male lead and really no other prominent female or non-white characters. Even though Pedro pascal is a spic he wears a helmet and armor. The leftist retard journalists can now say what everyone knows without feeling like they’re letting the chuds win, same way they didn’t hold back with Solo

>>219973893
>yawn
You type like a faggot

>>219974891
>To them the movies were subpar science-fantasy slop with more emphasis on diversity than telling a good story.

and chinks would know what about good shows and films?

you can’t name one good chinese sci-fi in history.

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The Mandalorian and Grogu is steaming dogshit.

>>219975213
Sure, but are their criticisms incorrect? My exposure to the MCU proper is through films like GotG 2 and the Doctor Strange movies. Going by those films alone, I'd assume that the entire MCU is forgettable CGI slop, and wonder why anyone unironically likes them.

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>>219974876
They had Donnie Yen and the other Chinese guy in Rogue One, sidelined Finn when they realized how much Chinese hate blacks, and if Rose Tico herself wasn't pandering then shoehorning in her more attractive sister who could pass for Chinese and makes a big sacrifice might be

>>219973697
Fuck Star Wars. It's been garbage since 1983. The prequels being a commercial success ushered the end of Hollywood. Every studio became convinced that quality didn't matter for big budget movies as long as it was a recognizable IP.

>>219973735
Disney has given star wars fans exactly what they want, endless cartoon prequel slop made by george lucas via dave filoni

>>219974099
I would trust him less if he actually remembered any details from The Last Skywalker (I know i don't)

>>219973697
is that a snowflake symbol? wat

>>219973727
>even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith
LMAO implying that there's something wrong with the epic space battle in revenge of the sith to begin with

>>219973727
>even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith and Kylo Ren slaughtering randos on Mustafar in The Rise of Skywalker left an impact.

What the fuck did he mean by both bringing up one of if not the best opening in SW (RotS) and comparing it to the shit of TRoS? Is he retarded?

>>219973697
Wait, even the milquetoast SJWs who hate the original 6 movies and think Star Wars fans are unworthy of eps 7-9 think the Grogu movies sucks?

WOW, it must REALLY be bad. lol

>>219974876
They had that big Star Wars ad in the Great Wall so maybe that counts lol.

>>219973727
>even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith
It looks better than the rest of the movie because RotS looks like shit, but it's not that memorable of a sequence at all outside of the effects work holding up.

>>219973727
Filoni, Favreau... these two hacks have been ruining Star Wars for 18 years now. Releasing a cheap cartoon to theaters was the first step and this garbage is the same exact play. Its over unless these two aren't killed or ordered to commit suicide.

>>219974834
Andor is the best thing Disney has done with SW by far and you just got filtered. Enjoy Baby Yoda slop

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>>219973697
NOW they're worried about the future of Star Wars?

>>219974891
The entire push for the Chinese audience was nothing more than
>wait, there's HOW MANY of them?
>they love that big dumb CGI shit, just make more of that who fucking cares
It's even funnier when you consider they basically killed all of their brands to cater to this audience and they didn't even let their token Asian-American led movie get screened in the country.

>>219974834
The Mandalorian turns to shit after the first season, they couldn't help themselves.
Season 2 onwards is just "Mando and Baby Yeed go to a random planet and encounter [cameo character from upcoming show]".

>>219976644
Kek. My exact thought.

>>219976633
>Filoni, Favreau... these two hacks have been ruining Star Wars for 18 years now. Releasing a cheap cartoon to theaters was the first step and this garbage is the same exact play. Its over unless these two aren't killed or ordered to commit suicide.
You can blame it on them all you want, they were told by Disney to follow RLM's advice and now they're handcuffed. The best director in the world couldn't make a good film while forced to follow Mike's notes.

>>219976788
Season 2 was fine, the Boba Fett show and then season 3 were where they really shit the bed, especially with them obviously realizing right away that writing Grogu off the show was a mistake and immediately reversing it for no real reason.

>>219973752
when did they ever pander to chinks? that would have meant no woke shit

>>219974565
With the MCU, Disney can take credit for building a quite successful franchise in a shared setting, with the understanding that the longer it went on the harder it would be not fuck it up. Its like going to a circus and the unicyclist starts off balancing while singing a tune, then starts juggling torches, throwing knives at his assistant and by the time he starts trying to spin a plate on his forehead he drops it all and crashes. A failure by the end but actually pretty impressive up to that point.

Star Wars was Disney walking into an art gallery, buying a collection of famous historical paintings, then shitting all over them before smushing the turds into little figures they label Rey and Kylo.

>>219975114
Damn, that makes a lot of sense. I’ve seen more than a few reviews of female or brown led movies that were shit and the reviewer clearly knew that but they tied themselves into knots trying to find any tiny sliver of competence or beauty in the film to latch onto.

>>219977407
>With the MCU, Disney can take credit
Wrong, Feige had the plan in place before the Disney buyout

>>219977312
I never watched the Fett show or S3, all I remember was S2 having a couple of episodes of them doing nothing with the weird old alien lady and then very little but
>hey look it's ahsoka
>hey look it's boba fett
>hey look it's bo katan
>hey look it's luke skywalker
The episode where they did the Sorcerer ripoff was okay I guess.

>>219977399
They've been doing it for ages, it's why they always make a huge deal about things like
>holy shit it's the first gay kiss in a star wars this is SO IMPORTANT
and it ends up being a blink-and-you-miss-it shot between two background characters that are conveniently edited out for the Chinese release.

>>219977407
The problems with their handling and the MCU are previsely the same. They have contempt for the source material and a general disdain for the lore that gives both settings internal consistency. Their “worldbuilding” (which is, let’s not kid ourselves, just “our world” with MCU shit in it) started falling apart way back in Phase 2. In the comics, there’s a reason why all the spacefaring aliens and their empires steer clear of Earth. In the MCU, it’s a bunch of illogical nonsense that falls apart under the barest of scrutiny. In the MCU, a “Celestial” is just whatever they decide to call one.

>>219973697
They're afraid that Disney will realize they can make just as much money off it while spending like 1/3rd the money on the films.

the communist cultural destruction did it's job

>>219973735
No executive heads will roll ever for anything. Especially not in Hollywood.

>>219977610
Ill admit i cant say anything about any of that, I've only seen 4 of the movies total (Iron Man, Thor, Cpt. America, GotG)

>>219977312
I didn't mind Grogu returning, but it happened too quickly.

>>219973697
Mogged by B I G Plumber cock and B I G hee hee! cock

>>219976633
>Releasing a cheap cartoon to theaters was the first step
TPM doesn't look that bad.

>Modern video game and movie/tv studios go in a direction that consumers are not happy with.
>studios double down and release statements attacking and antagonizing said consumers
>product flops due to consumers not interested
>studios lose millions
>rince and repeat

Why does this keep happening? Why is this so prevalent in recent years?

>>219977407
>Its like going to a circus and the unicyclist starts off balancing while singing a tune, then starts juggling torches, throwing knives at his assistant and by the time he starts trying to spin a plate on his forehead he drops it all and crashes. A failure by the end but actually pretty impressive up to that point.
I like this comparison.

>>219973752
They abandoned that plan 6 years ago retard.

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>>219973697
INCOMING

>>219974732
>Real Star Wars fans moved on ages ago
In 1980, to be precise.
There was only one good Star Wars film. It was called Star Wars.

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>>219973697
I can't wait, it's gonna be awesome.
I bet Hondo makes a live action appearance and I will go ape.

>>219974967
He’s just a shit writer. What he’s TRYING to say is that even if the prequels suck and you hate them, there are individual action sequences that are very impressive. The Grungleman and Bingus is just lame dreamy slop the whole way through.

>>219973727
stopped reading at heck. only stupid cynical faggots use that shit unironically

Oh you're telling me the TV episode that they decided to air in theaters ain't anything special? Holy shit who coulda guessed?

>>219978697
Because Disney is evil and ought to be eradicated, legally and humanely of course. lol nah i dont care what happens to em

>>219973727
>same portrait-mode style framing as so many Netflix shows, with each character practically speaking to the camera against a blurry background that recreates the feeling of a Zoom meeting
Holy shit finally somebody pointed it out. I thought I was going insane

>>219973697
They're worried NOW? Not after how fucking shit episode 7 was, NOW?

>>219973735
>shareholders will want a few executive heads to roll
BULLSHIT! Solo lost money. Every film in the sequel trilogy lost money compared to the prior film, with the last losing about HALF of the audience. NOBODY watched Ashoka, or Andor, or The Acolyte, or Kenobi, or Book of Bobba Fett, and The Mandalorian crashed and burned. (((Disney))) managed to fuck up everything they touched when it comes to Star Wars, completely killing the franchise, and the board hasn't said shit about any of it.

Nothing will happen. As usual.

>>219978890
Trvth Nvke, ESB ruined the series with the "I am your father" bullshit.

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>>219973697
Because we had to wait for the beginning of the Mandalorian & Grogu movie to be worried about the future of Star Wars?

>>219973727
>my first impression of the film is that it feels more like a Star Wars video game
Depending on the game (say The Force Unleashed or The Old Republic) that would actually be a good thing.

If they named him baby Yeed it wouldn't have flopped

>>219973697
Because no matter how good it is, Disney has spent a full decade committing brand suicide and gaslighting anyone brave enough to point it out
Star Wars became a vehicle to demoralize men and humiliate white people
Anyone still sticking around is doing so in the hopes the whole industry dies, no one cares about this subversive faggot trash

>>219973752

Considering their plan wasn't serious and authentic at all.

Yidsey tastemakers leaves a lot to be desired.

>>219978890
/thread

>>219973697
Worried that this rotting corpse of a franchise will explode?

>>219978907
But what of good Glup Shitto?

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>Worried about the future of Didney Worl Star Goys
How could you possibly be "worried" about this shit? Its already been thoroughly run into the fucking ground.

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Bring back Lobot.

>the character had been lobotomized as a result of the installation of his cybernetic implant, causing him to become a mute. As a reference to this change, the character was named "Lobot," a corruption of the word "lobotomy."

>>219973697
It's ok to only watch the start of a movie.
I watch a lot of movie with my gf and we have a rule, if nothing happens or we are not hooked in the first 20 minutes we ditch it.
This past weekend we tried to watch 40 Acres (2024). Nothing was happening and felt like a Walking Dead episode, we ditch it.
We tried to watch The Darjeeling Limited (2007), BOY that's a nothinghappens movie, the fuck happened to Wes Anderson, we ditch it
We ended up watching Don't Worry Darling (2022), it was good but the ending is lame.

>>219982862
>guy called Lobot instead of Tommy
You know the movie is trash when the writers are trash with no imagination

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>>219983066
Wait until you hear about the Octopus Men, they are literally called Mon Calamari.

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>>219973727
>Mando taking down AT-AT Walkers
AT-ST! AT-ST!

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>>219982760
I'll start jerking off in the theatre.
I'll be there opening weekend for the next chapter in the ongoing Star Wars saga.

>Hopefully, I'm wrong. Star Wars really needs a win, but I'm still not convinced The Mandalorian and Grogu is it.
This people should be gassed
Why can't they fucking engage with the movie?
Just watch the movie, and if it's trash, it's trash
Whats with this gay fanboyism "this franchise NEEDS to be a win"
Are they monetarily invested in the movie? Is he the fucking producer?
Star Wars have the worst and most sheepest base in history, only lamer than perhaps the Nintendo/Pokemon one

>>219974099
I’ve said my piece Chrissy

>>219973735
Can SW finally die? Or at least hibernating for say 20 years?

>>219983191
Asians in Star Wars are actually a different species called Epicanthex.

>>219983673
asians in attack on titan are also bigger, faster and stronger too

>>219973727
>Favreau shoots it in the same portrait-mode style framing as so many Netflix shows
Streaming has been a disaster for film making.

>>219974867
Wrong. They didn't use the volume for this.

>>219976619
Stay mad chud

>>219977399
>that would have meant no woke shit
they were trying to have their cake and eat it too, so they did multiple forms of pandering at the same time, which made it all the more worse

>>219973752
are these Chinese plans in the room with us right now

>>219984194
not fooling anyone chinky, you people are so petty as to demand that movie maps contain the 9 dash line

>>219977312
yeah I didn't really get that, he went with Luke, then next episode grogu and Mando and back adventuring together like nothing happened.
I'm assuming the movie will show grogus training with Luke and how he got back

>>219983414
They care so much because they’ve attached all of their political views to a children’s fantasy franchise, and if the movie is bad it makes them feel like the chuds beat them

>>219976752
>wait, there's HOW MANY of them?
kek

>>219975517
wtf, I love uncle Pooh now?

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I just gotta say
Making a movie about a declining series is fucking wild
Imagine if they make the Walking Dead movie, after season 9-10

>>219985625
>declining series

What happened? I thought Mandalorian was super popular? My friends got back into star wars because of that show

>>219986142
From what chatgp tells me, because I'll never watch this trash, the plot of Mandalorian season 2 was resolved in a different series, Book of bobba fet, where Mandalorian and baby yoda get back togheter, and then Mandalorian season 3 stars from there
Basically they tried to make a Mandalorian season 2.5 with another series to branch out and people didn't like it
That's what chatgpt says the reddit recap says at least

>>219986142
mandoman donated baby yeed only to care for another baby

>>219976752
>they basically killed all of their brands to cater to this audience

They really didn't. Those movies had nothing chinks like.

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>>219975058
The prequels were soulless cash grabs and no amount of zoomer revisionist angst over the sequels will make them any less awful.

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>>219987378
The phantom menace has more soul in its pinky toe than the entirety of RLM nu-wars.

Filoni bros...

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It'll be fine

>>219986142
>S1: cool episodic series with western vides
>S2: use it to promote a lot of upcoming SW shows, cool final with a great good bye between the two main characters
>fear that no one will watch S3 if Grogu and Mando are not together again, use a flop show to reunite them for the start of season 3
>S3: main characters are already back together, but the show isn't really about them anymore
>no one cares about Mando and Grogu now because they already have done everything and everyone know nothing will happen to them anyway

The Prequels killed Star Wars movies
The Sequels killed the Franchise

>>219987480
why do people act like it was bad?

>>219987378
nah the prequels were good

>>219987378
>The prequels were soulless cash grabs
Cope. They were literally auteur-driven indie flicks. George Lucas funded those movies entirely himself, and thus had complete creative control with no studio interference whatsoever.

>>219973697
Disney forgot the usual bribes.

>>219973697
If they came at you riding on mechas with not one but two dicks unloading hot bolts of plasma at your face would you not be worried?

>>219989176
Studio interference is.... Le GOOD?

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I didn’t realize this Marrok is the same Marrok as the one from Ahsoka. Why do they put characters in these shows that we know won’t die because they have to be in the later show. It ruins the tension.

>>219989572
Because that's what Sperg Lucas did in the prequels. So many characters who can't die it's insane.

>>219989517
haha look at the le retard

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When is devon getting the sexy Darth Talon bod? Do Twileks mature differently? Is there a wookiepedia entry for their development?

>>219989572
Looks like a Dead Space rip-off

>future
It was killed 10 years ago.

>>219977138
>RLM influence
Pls to redeem this lore

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>>219989794
I think they were just using extra concept art from the knights of Ren.

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I forgot that the Marrok from Ahsoka was a zombie. So Maul or Talon could still kill him in this one.

The way Disney has handled Star Wars highlights the fact the industry has lost the ability to make a decent movie with a coherent plot and a cool aesthetic, essentially they've lost all the talent that made movies special and the third world slaves they outsource almost everything to now, desperately lack any of the quality that made people care
We're in some transitional period where people who remember what quality looked like still exist and the shit eaters that industry is now for, haven't fully taken over and maybe never will fully

>>219987376
Pacific Rim will always be my favourite example of this. The sequel was only greenlit because of the first's success in China. They then cast John Boyega as the lead, lmao.

>>219990072
Avatar looks good. The story was retarded, but the aesthetics were perfect.

>>219973697
Fools and cynics like this "journo" are mistakenly treating this as the next chapter of Star Wars, the epic childhood favorite saga, when it's just a tangentially related, buddy story in the style of older classics. Some fans will never be happy, meanwhile, kids will love it.

>>219973735
>only for interest in the IP to plummet after only their second film
It's literally never been higher.

>>219974565
Both are insufferable and constantly complain but Star Wars fairweather "fans" are the worst.

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>>219990361
lol

>>219973697
Jesus Christ. You all are a miserable lot.

>>219990361
yep avatar is great unlike this retard >>219990536

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>>219990361
>Avatar looks good

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>>219990586
You can take any frame of the movie and it looks like a painting.

>>219990731
oh, THAT Avatar. Yeah, you're correct, anon. Post your fav girl.

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>>219990787
I like the OC donut steels.

It'll stink like ripe toilet plop and you know it

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Its like an Atlantis era Disney movie.

>>219990876
god, I watched Atlantis and Road to El Dorado like a million times when I was a kid

>>219990787
lmao what a retard.

>>219990787

James Cameron's Avatar looks like dogshit but is it owned by Disney?

>>219977610
This is spot-on. The backbone of the MCU is what Kirby put together, and that in turn is heeeeeeavily influenced by Arthur C. Clarke and the whole ancient aliens concept. Without it, pretty much nothing else happening on Marvel Earth makes much sense.

>>219973735
>shareholders will want a few executive heads to roll
2 weeks!

>>219990420
lol

>>219991066
>66
Its over

>>219986142
Season one was great, season two had a bunch of Filoni crap and season three was shit with one of the issues being that the Mandalorian wasn't even the main character.

>>219973697
>want to reignite interest in the IP with a big cinema release
>do it with a tv movie of an already declining tv show
morons should have waited for Gosling's movie to do this,

>>219978697
Large media corporations have reached such unfathomable levels of wealth that the only way they can create new customers is to catch entirely new demographics. Common sense says that if you make about violence, you can't draw in the romcom crowd, but in their mind they will make the violence show into the romcom show and retain both audiences. They will criticise you the audience if you don't like this, because you having a preference is what stands between them and making more money. And they have to make more money because the system works by increasing profits, no matter how high those profits go, even when the market is so saturated that you could not make any more money; you still have to make more money.

Instead of selling to a market they are trying to build new markets, and that is why the past 10 (give or take) years there's such soulless cash grab garbage with massive budgets behind them. They are trying to bruteforce the system with statistics to make more money, instead of making a product you want to pay money for. This isn't new, but bankrolling these attempts with millions of dollars and IPs that have had the juice squeezed out of them for the fourth time is. There was a Lethal Weapon 2, there was not a Lethal Weapon 8. Mandalorian and Grogu will be Star Wars 13, not counting the TV series; in which case it'd be Star wars 17: The Movie. I can't be fucked to count episodes but if we did it'd be something like Star Wars 200andsomething: The Movie.

God, I beg of you, destroy this company. Smite them down for their avarice and offence to the senses. Dear lord please destroy Star Wars.

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>>219973727
>even the space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith
>even
Is this 'tard badmouthing ROTS' kino intro?

>>219991867
It felt like a real war.

The First Order-Resistance conflict never had scale or scope to it.

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>>219987378
You don't know what the words "cash grab" mean.

>>219992005
Wdym, they blew up a ton of planets about halfway through the first one. Thats scale innit?

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>>219989572
>that we know won’t die
kek anon, it's the exact fucking opposite. We know Ahsoka's Marrok was a green smoke Nightsister zombie, so we know Maul's gonna 100% kill him.

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Why wasn't Leia's daughter a more prominent character?

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>>219988569
Because it’s hard to understand now how high expectations were at the time it was released. Also jar jar

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>>219973697
Not enough interracial love scenes.

yeah guys im kinda worried about star wars too... LOOKS AT THE 5 DOGSHIT MOVIES AND 10 DOGSHIT TV SERIES just a little though

>>219988569
It was fuckin' BORING

>>219992957
This. I felt ripped off when I saw Force Awakens because if I wanted to see New Hope again I would have stayed home and popped in the DVD. And then fell asleep in the second one, whatever that was called and my wife did too that's how fucking boring it was. Which tipped me off to not even bother seeing the last one of the new ones. But I did watch some youtube reviews to confirm that it sucks.

Disney is DEI infested. They can’t make compelling media because anything with toxic masculinity (anything masculine, assertive, or dominant that isn’t a female) is not allowed. This means everything receives a feminized coat of paint and makes for weird and jarring stories. Everything in them just seems so fucking gay. There’s nothing “bad ass” because some feminist supervisor will hyperventilate if any of that is on set. None of this should be a mystery.

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>>219993274
That has nothing to do with the post you linked, you actual bugman.

>>219982862
I thought he was just listening to his tunes

>>219973697
MINI AT-ST MINI AT-ST MINI AT-ST!

>>219975517
This always amuses me.
>hollywood doesn't have an agenda stop being a chud

>>219973735
they've made their money back and then some, 4 billion was a great deal in hindsight. Imagine being some and paying 3 billion for Bungie

>>219973727
Andor was a win though. Huge critical darling.
Disney just fucked up by giving the franchise to Favreau instead of Gilroy.

The media are invested in Star Wars' success because they've spent the past decade attempting to refute the people who pointed and laughed at how badly Disney has handled the franchise. It's reached the point now where if this movie flops, the now decade-long disaster will be irrefutable even for them.

>>219994710
>Andor was a win though. Huge critical darling.
And unfortunately a financial black hole, the show looks as expensive as it is, the profitability of streaming shows is a hard thing to grasp but Andor was absolutely a huge loss.

>>219974834
Make it to 4 eps. I was let down by season 2 but overall still decent. Season 1 was a banger

Star Wars both as a brand, an IP, an universe, and a story ran out of juice decades ago

>>219973697
All of this shit should be public domain.

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>>219993725
yes it does, which part is making you seethe uncontrollably, there really is something in there for all of the shill camps

>>219994622
not even close, they only bought it because they thought it would be an infinite money printer, there's no way they are happy with the way it's turned out, get back to your subreddit astroturfing

>original trilogy
Tons of great games
,>prequel trilogy
Many great games, an entire spinoff timeline with two timeless classic rpgs (kotor)
>Sequel trilogy
A couple slops

>>219996014
That's also a reflection of the games industry, though. It costs substantially more and takes substantially more time to develop high-end games than it did in the past. When every game requires teams in the hundreds for several years, there's going to be a lot fewer games or they're going to be smaller scale projects.

>>219975892
Bruh. That space battle is Shit. It was messy, busy and gratuitous. It was a taste of Marvelslop to come. If you liked the RotS space battle, you like capeshit.

>>219973735
>only for interest in the IP to plummet after only their second film
Third film, actually. The second film was Rogue One, which was well-received and is still regarded fondly by most.

>>219974891
>like with former Soviet/Eastern bloc countries, they have no cultural memory of Star Wars
i'm from bulgaria, we do have memories from star wars, it's just that they don't stretch as far back across generations as in the west. only people in their 30s and early 40s grew up on star wars. the difference is we got all the american shit from the 70s and 80s all at once in the 90s. i was the right age to get hooked on star wars, but most people who would have been kids and teens in the 70s and 80s weren't.

>>219973752
>bunch of we wuz jedi and shiets
>bunch of gay faggotry
they stopped doing that for like a decade now

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>>219975580
>Fuck Star Wars. It's been garbage since 1983.

I wholeheartedly agree with you

>>219994525
>>219995723
Imbeciles. It's an AT-RT.

>>219973697
I only play Tortanic and that's it, that's my Star Wars fill.
Somebody should make actual good sci fi space wizards kino. And without George's shit takes.

>>219973735
How come they gave KK 10+ years and the keys to the franchise despite her failing so hard and also killing off Indiana Jones with girlboss Fleabag instead of letting Indy have one last adventure with adult Shortround?

>>219983917
Makes no practical difference because it still looks like they did. There's no difference in camera language (and visual language) between the Mando TV show and Mando movie. The Mando movie still looks like the Mando TV show, but with maybe a bigger budget. It's not a huge jump in quality

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>>219975580
THIS

>>219976133
>the original 3 movies
fixed
SW is the OT
>>219976636
>Andor is the best thing Disney has done
and it's dogshit and not SW, like the rest

>>219973697
Because Star Wars is suppose to be the king of blockbusters. The franchise is why so many other big action blockbusters exist. It has a big legacy. If Star Wars dies, then Hollywood is fucked. All they have left is Spider-Man, Avatar, and Disney live-action remakes.

>>219988266
>The Prequels killed Star Wars movies
>The Sequels killed the Franchise
Yep

>>219973735
4 billion was how much Yahoo cost when it was finally bought out with literally zero actual worth in 2017.

>>219989866
not sure what that sentence means but Simon Pegg was Disney's 'nerd audience' consultant, and he along with their primary write in 2014, lindelof (?), were both very vocal in public that "everyone needs to watch the RLM reviews" and that their content set out what fans actually wanted from more star wars after the 80s. So like as fat and gay as Mike is the 2010s Lucasfilm losers 100% treated his complaints and recommendations as a guide making their ones. Rian johnson also publicly stated that he 'feared them'

Star Wars is ass and has ways been ass. A sincere fuck you to anyone who is still paying to watch this dogshit.

>>219999824
Obviously she had dirt on someone, they've always seen Kennedy as a retard even back when she was an assistant fetching coffee, spielberg tells a story where she interrupted a meeting discussing or planning out the plot of a movie and her idea was the guy and girl don't get together in the end but goes away with the dog, I can't remember exactly what she said but you can Google it and find the unsatisfying version she was trying to sell
Obviously she had blackmail material on someone

>>219974891
Lol Chinese claws clacked this post

>>219987376
They might not have appealed to the chink audience, but that's only because they didn't know what said audience wanted to see.
They were absolutely trying to court them because they knew nobody in the west gave a shit about their dumb CGI slopfests anymore.

>>220000000

>>219993274
Iger didn't trust kennedy LMAO He betrayed lucas so that he could get abrams. kennedy went along, but Iger was the guy in charge

>>219976133
>Woah dude were the original, were not like the prequel fans, are you kidding me, jar jar binks? midichlorians?
>woah dude were prequel fans, we like the originals but hate the new films. for they are truly the worse
>woah dude, were the sequel fans. we like goyslop and globo homo and hate the original franchise. but dont count us out. we HATE GROUGU
we are here in the space time continuum.

>>220000767
Ecept the OG fans are right since the OG is the real deal

>>219973735
You can fund a polygon article with a sandwich

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>>219986142
They couldn't help themselves and made Season 2 nothing but commercials for other Disney+ shows.

>>220000324
Reality is funnier than fiction

>>219973735
>only for interest in the IP to plummet after only their second film.
You've phrased that too generously towards disney
Interest in the IP didn't just randomly drop because of unrelated factors, they killed interest in the IP by putting out garbage that undermines the individual's ability to enjoy it, shit that was so trash it actively sabotaged the original media in the IP that made it a juggernaut

>>219992957
This is truly the biggest sin. I can handle some dumb shit and retarded plots or even jeet CGI. But just don't bore me to sleep after two beers.

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>>219988569
It was a mediocre film with many out right plot holes and poor pacinglike most Star Wars films, however as noted >>219992231 it had the one two punch of also being seen as a the start of a new era of Star Wars so expectations were high.

>>219973752
>With the tranny, commie, marxist freak subhuman one
Ftfy

>>219993198
Chuds are just as incompetent in creating fiction of any kind. What Americans are unable to admit is that the death of their culture and media isn't related to politics at all but is the result of a total system collapse.

>>220001460
Kill yourself retard troon

>>220000324
> 100% treated his complaints and recommendations as a guide making their ones.

The outcome was a 180 then. The biggest complaints was empty characters that had no personality other than moving the plot and that the PT relied on the past movies to hold any relevance. If anything they just doubled down on what RLM hated.

>>219988569
In the context of worshiping the original trilogy all on its own for near 20 years, it is easy to see how diehard fans were let down. Star Wars was the bible of all nerd culture for a very long time.

>>220001460
Ahh the russian tranny larper reveals itself

>>220001405
correct, The Last Jedi was on the surface no worse than say Phantom Menace in terms of how it told the story and plot progression, however it was going to far out of it's way to just shit on the fandom for the sake of being subversive so everyone just let go of the brand and went on to new things.

>>219993198
>>220001460
>>220001473
>>220001544
all me

seriously anon this is just fucking sad. You can do better for this thread than role play 2016 talking points

>>220001544
xhe is confirmed to be russian ? wouldn't surprise me honestly they are both turbo gay and turbo patriotic

>>220001525
Star Wars wasn't just a nerd thing, the original trilogy was popular because it appealed to broad swaths of society, it literally had something for everybody at the time, to shoehorn it as nerd shit really dilutes the cultural impact it had

>>220001610
It's prime vatnik hours, plus they're the only ones that bait with the chud tranny samefagging or pine for better days like 2016 when they hadn't lost a million men kia in Ukraine yet

>>220001664
yes just look at /int/ or Twitter they have tons of themselves and hired browns to roleplay either as nazi based chuds or gay woke trannies

>>219976752
It doesn't even make sense, China keeps 80% or more of the ticket take anyway, they'd only make an extra couple hundred million at most.

>>220001573
The phantom menace didn't set out to character assassinate Luke or his father, the last jedi did a whole hell of a lot more than just be subversive it retconned the entire personality and rewrote an established character's entire journey and development

I've only read 20% of the thread and I'm already overdosed on shit takes

>>219975734
That's the Empire emblem (since 1977). Are you fucking brand new?

>>219991867
>Is this 'tard badmouthing ROTS' kino intro?
It was bad even for it's time..

>>219973697
Who thought that title was accessible? Attack of the Clones tier naming.

>>219973752
The Chinese never gave a fuck about Star Wars and have no idea why it was even popular because they can't into space fantasy as a concept.

>>220001823
>humans not wanting to explore, to venture in great adventures across unknown oceans and seas of stars
Soulless.

The sequel trilogy was purposely made to be awful and the fact everyone involved wasn't immediately blacklisted is a tragedy
jj abrams is still worming around and got his proteges as the show runners for rings of power and rian johnson is on his 4th or fifth knives out sequel

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>>219973735
>People suddenly see a glimmer of hope for the property after the first episode of Mandelorian is a hit
>Disney then proceeds to freak out because it's a return to the masculine theming of the old films
>Immediately starts meddling with Mandelorian until they shit it up just like the sequels as its audience starts noticing
>Disney fucks Mandelorian to such a degree that Katee Sackhoff almost has a psychotic episode over changes in the direction of her character.
What exactly is their fucking problem?

>>219978890
This, 77 is the only one with any actual merit as a film

>>219977635
Pretty much

>>219978697
Maybe because making money is not the primary goal

>>219973727
>with each character practically speaking to the camera
that would be because the actors schedules didn't allow them to all be together at the same time

Filoni reminds me of that one fag kid at the playground that was too slow for attention

>>220002022
Not true, because you guys always tell me they're still getting blackrock bucks in the end

>>219973727
HECK
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>>220001573
>correct, The Last Jedi was on the surface no worse than say Phantom Menace in terms of how it told the story and plot progression
Wrong, TLJ was nothing but subversive trash and it ruined Luke.

>>220001750
>it retconned the entire personality and rewrote an established character's entire journey and development

Obi-wan, Yoda, and really the very Force itself suffered that thanks to Phantom Menace and it would take the next two films to try and fill the plot holes and rewrites that were made. What made TLJ bad was there was no point for it. You can understand why such gross and stupid changes were taken for the cast in the PT, and even in Force Awakens, but TLJ it's just there to be a "bet you didn't see that coming" level of stupidity and again why it killed the brand.

>>220002596
The point of the last jedi was to let a smug prick ruin star wars out of spite, that's basically the entire industry now fart huffing leftist reddit snarkers

>Star Wars really needs a win
it's so funny that it came to this

>>219973697
>Disney
>Pedro Pascal, who'll never be an A-lister who can carry a movie no matter how much Hollywood shoves him down our throats. The average person sees him as a racist Mexican POS.
>the novelty of "baby yoda" has already worn off. People are bored with it now
>stores can't give away Star Wars merch
>it's still a space ripoff of Japan's "Lone Wolf and Cub."

>>220002681
They didn't intentionally ruin it. They're just covetous and selfish. Instead of feeling inspired to create something new that's their own, when they see what makes others happy, all they feel is a need to steal it away from those people then transform it into what makes themselves happy so it's about them instead.

Imagine you having favorite action figures. Let's say it's a few He-Man figures. The neighboring kids hate you for having it, and hate the fact that it's not like them so they feel like what you have represents them so "they feel included." So they steal your figures from you. The brown kid paints one brown. The black kid paints one black. The gay trannie kids paints the last one pink with rainbows. So what was once yours is now theirs and is about them. When you don't want it back and don't want to play with them at all, they all gang up on you and call you a bigot. When the line becomes worthless because all the other kids just give up wanting that toy line, those other kids blame all the other kids for not giving what they like a chance.

And that's it in a nutshell. They could have just gotten toy lines that are 100% about them, but nah. They wanted what YOU have simply because you had it and enjoyed it.

>>219975517
based chinks

>>220003020
No one had a breast milk fetish, that faggot inserted his faggot pedo coded fetish into the movie to intentionally make it shitty and force us to participate in his humiliation ritual

>>219985625
The Simpsons movie was almost a decade after the show stopped being good.

>>219987542
How much space are these taking up in the theaters? It's not like you can just stack them like regular buckets.

>>219999880
I thought Lucasfilm wasn't in Hollywood

>>220001835
The Dutch and Portuguese colonized Taiwan before the Chinese did.

>>220001620
That's right, it was just mainstream entertainment. Star Trek on the other hand was considered nerdy.

>>220002229
Who are "you guys" and why do you assume it include me?

>>220003550
Because at the end of the day whether you like it or not you're probably all working for the same deranged faggot making us all as miserable as he or she is

>>220002681
>>220003020
This feels like you are ignore replies to just force a narrative.

Is this thread being made to share at some meeting as to why this movie is going to fail? Why is Kathy being mentioned so very little when she is the very heart of why everything went so wrong.

>>219987376
Yeah no shit, that's why they failed so hard. They don't even know how to appeal to people in the West, why would you assume their attempts to appeal to any other demographic would be successful, or well thought out?

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>>219987542
Fucking americans buy toys to put pop corn in them

>>220003660
Anonymous forums don't seem to be good for your paranoia

>>220003217
What they did to Luke was 100% about destroying the blue-eye White hero. It's total character assassination to present a new narrative that the galaxy can only be saved by team-diversity as led by strong empowered women.


>>220003866
Whatever you say, saar.

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>>220004037
It's theatrers still trying to make up for the PLANdemic losses as well as the losses of collapsing Hollywood's woke bullshit. People willingly pay extra for that shit, and the majority of the time it's trashed as people know it'll always be worthless.

>>219987542
Well fuck, that clone wars AT-AT(this is the dumb explanation they used to excuse using the old concept art designs in the Rebels cartoon) looks to be about 1:48 scale and reasonably detailed, I might have to pay to see this trash in the cinema afterall so I can get one for Legion without paying scalperscum prices on ebay.

>>220004226
Oh boy I have an excuse to see it four times to collect them all!!!

>>220001750
prequels character assassinate Vader by making him a lame retard, and did the same with Luke turning everything he did in shitty prophecy starring his now retarded father

>>220003550
pleas understand, in the place where anon above comes from, everyone is one person

>>219987542
You eat popcorn out of Yeed's butt?????

>>220003020
>They could have just gotten toy lines that are 100% about them, but nah
nobody would make those toys because they would sell just 3 of them

>>219989176
And he used that exclusive control to repeatedly make "creative" choices designed to maximise merch sales. Just because it was made by one greedy, creatively bankrupt, turkey-necked old coot instead of a room full of greedy, creatively bankrupt, grey-suited old coots doesn't somehow transform it into Le Arte, you boy-buggering ponce.

>>220001969
The fact that they openly stated they were acquiring Star Wars to fill the gaping male-oriented gap in their franchises makes it doubly insane. Literally the whole point of the purchase was to get their hands on a male-friendly franchise and stop being "the princesses and themeparks company", and then they immediately feminized it.

>>219988251
It's greek-tier tale of hubris that they had a perfect send off to baby yeed and suffered the consequences for their greed

>>219973697
if the media hates this I might check it out

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>>219975517
They pandered as much as they could since hollywood was just getting into that era of courting for the china bux and to the other asian market and would have done more if they weren't so fucking stupid.
It really is amazing how so much of hollywood mismanaged that, but I guess they went in with too much confidence without knowing the audience so at best they have cameos that can be taken out or some famous actor appear and speak bad english.

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>>220004552
>if the media hates this I might check it out
Great plan

>>220004693
Even the Chinese were tired of the pandering. There's this actress, Jiang Tian, who appeared in Kong: Skull Island and Pacific Rim: Uprising, and Chinese people dubbed these the "Jing Tian Cinematic Universe", mocking how she used her connections (her sugar daddy owned a sizeable stake in Legendary) to get in the roles

>>219973697
I only watch Youtube these days but it is entertaining to read how the media corporations are slowly destroying their IPs. I'll just show my kids the old stuff.

>>220004869
This.
Modern media are all dogshit, and it's more entertaining to cheer at their implosion

>>219994710
>Andor was a win though.
you andorfags really need to shut the FUCK up about if andor is good or not. have you retards never heard of the concept of 'moot point'? even if andor was decent (it wasnt), it doesnt make of for literally 5 (FIVE) feature films that were complete shit and countless series (including your precious andor) that were also complete shit. ffs.

>>220005057
very well said

>>219975213
>one good chinese sci-fi in history
Wasn't 3 body problem (original Chinese version) well received? I haven't seen it.

>control + f
>baby yeed
>5 results

FAITH IN 4CHAN RESTORED

>>219973735
>shareholders will want a few executive heads to roll
Thats antisemitic

>>219973697
>>219973727
>Favreau makes another soulless and boring piece of shit
and water is wet

>>219975517
They made an entire movie with Finn and the poster thing was some low effort shit they did for pandering. If they really believed chinks hated blacks that much, they would have simply not written him into the script in the first place.
As for the whole sidelining thing, the triology passed hands between directors and nobody had a clue what the direction was. It's sheer buffoonery, they had 0 plan other than "there would be 3 movies" and it ended with retarded nonsense like Sheeve returning because they ran out of ideas. Too much money and 0 effort to back it.

>>219973697
>Polygon worried
Probably means it didn't have a bunch of DEI slop like Acolyte which means it could be tolerable.

>>219975517
I remember them cutting Finn out of the poster, but I didn't notice they also took out Chewbacca too. Do the chinese not like furry/hairy characters or something?

>>220002022
Oh no, making money is ALWAYS the goal. Always. You just don't always see whose making the money.

>>220007838
Right. I guess the studios could still be making a profit even though the actual shows do not, due to Blackrock funding or whatever.

>>220004037
It's a loophole so the toys can be bought with ebt

>>220007806
Finn is still on the poster though?

>>220007714
>If they really believed chinks hated blacks that much, they would have simply not written him into the script in the first place.
check out the chinese version, you're gonna see something interesting

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>>219996014
The video game industry isn't what it was 25 years ago. People try to illustrate things with toys as well but that industry is even more hollowed out.

>>219994710
I like Gilroy and love Andor but I don't think Gilroy would be a good fit beyond demonstrating general taste and competence. Andor's success isn't easy to translate to the IP as a whole. Lessons could be learned from its production design and location use, but it was also very expensive.

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>>220004037
Do euros even get the blue Grogu Shake or does it violate one of your nanny state healthcodes?

>>220009417
idgi

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>>219973697
You have to think of it like them, from a purely propaganda standpoint. If a SW product, once a franchise enjoyed by heterosexual white men, fails, it means the system has lost a tool for indoctrinating heterosexual white men, especially when they are still young. The franchise itself is irrelevant, the important thing is that you've lost a vehicle for spreading your propaganda.

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>>219973697
Access media is just now starting to understand that legacy media is fucking dead and it's never coming back. That scares the fuck out of them, because without having the big corpo dick in their mouth to lead them around, they have no fucking idea what to say or what opinions they are allowed to have. They are coming face to face with the fact that they're going to have to start having independent thoughts again, and it's creating a full blown existential crisis for them

>>219973697
This is all the fault of Mike Stoklasa

He brainwashed people into hating the prequels.
Then he sent death threats to George Lucas and forced him to sell Star Wars to Disney.
Then Mike Stoklasa made Disney hire JJ Abrams (whom Mike specifically demanded he write).
Then Mike shilled the shitty Disney Star Wars movies and shows like Kenobi and Acolyte.


Everything wrong with Star Wars is because of Mike Stoklasa and Red Letter Media.

>star wars has been a shit franchise since 1999 and they're only now worried about it

>>220010180
That blurb sounds like it was written by AI.

>>220011952
People who didn't grow up watching the prequels always hated them, retard.