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star trek sex with shran
>Your hero's a Negro captain. The head of a space station, for Christ's sake.
>>219974094Yeah well that's just like your opinion man
Why did they cancel Lower Decks?It's all fucking geezers fault. If you dumb fucks would watch the most based Star Trek in existence we would have season 7 by now, as planned.Mike McMahan is a genius and he will be remembered as one of the greatest creators of his times.Also Tawny a cute.
A brand new Star Trek show that ignores all of Kurtzman Trek is made, however the main character is Captain Harry Kim. Are you still excited?
New trek show about the IKF with a Gorn captain.
>>219974575*Admiral Harry Kim
https://searchtrek.org/search/all/Fuck/0
IKF ship & crew with Gorn captain that's yoked as fuck.
>>219974602Lt JG Harry KimLt Cmdr ExocompCommander Naomi WildmanCaptain NogAdmiral Tom Paris
>>219974556what is this hideous creature?
>>219974556Lower Decks takes a shit on verisimilitude. Every episode has at least one, if not several, moments where the "is this really happening in the same universe" feeling is shattered. Characters do not act like they would have if they were in any of the other series. Events do not occur like they might have in the other series. The rules, even the ones that can be broken, just don't work the same way as they worked in the other series. Lower Decks fundamentally lacks verisimilitude, where TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT did not. It's far more than just plot holes or fixing them, continuity or the lack of it, references, callbacks, cameos, and memberberries. It is the fundamental feeling of "are all of these different stories happening in the same universe? And does that universe feel like it could be real with real people in it?" The answer to those questions with Classic Trek is yes. The answer to those questions with nuTrek, including LD, is no. Classic Trek characters don't engage in orgies, or laugh at the gruesome deaths of friends as a punchline, they shouldn't be aware of events that were secret or classified just because the audience knows about them. They shouldn't be fanboying over Star Trek lore like they've seen the shows, or acting in unprofessional ways that would get them reprimanded or thrown out if they were on any other show. LD does all of these things and moreit is one thing to write a deliberate spoof and parody of Trek in which the audience is in on the joke and can laugh at Trek from the outside. But for those stories to actually believably exist in the same universe as the rest of Trek, the characters inside that same universe cannot be laughing at Trek in the same way the audience is from the outside. And Lower Decks breaks this immersion.It should have been marketed from the start as a totally separate and self-contained good natured lampooning of Trek for the fans, not treated like it actually exists alongside the rest of Trek
>>219974664This dialogue is atrocious
>>219974664https://searchtrek.org/search/all/double%20dumb%20ass/0
>>219974664>>219975106I very much hate and despise nuTrek dialogue; it's so smarmy, crass, and reddit-like.
>>219974556I don’t respect post-2016 black female tokenism.
1. Your favorite character 2. Your least favorite character Nutrek not included
https://searchtrek.org/search/all/Shit/0>old trek: 1 >nutrek: 114
>>219975200https://searchtrek.org/search/all/niggers/0
>>219974556
https://searchtrek.org/search/all/asshole/0
>>219975161it's remarkable how much internet style dialogue is seeping into regular TV. like why do these writers assume their boomer average-Joe viewers are gonna be into this terminally online babble?
>>219974556Lower Decks was made to capitalize on Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty isn't popular anymore, and Lower Decks was never that popular to begin with.>>219974080https://youtu.be/BZlRt05RY9Y?si=54WcXBuYhm8HC7np
>>219974575Yes, even after his actor went after our best friend Nick Mullen for pointing out that "Kim" is a Korean name and not Chinese
Previous: >>219950736OP is a retard
>>219975284Sulu is not a Japanese name either. IIRC, they changed his name to Kato in the Japanese dub of TOS.
>Get to know each other? Okay, here's the brief history of Kenneth Dalby. We lived on the Bajoran frontier. It was a hard life. I coped by getting into a lot of trouble. I was angry at everybody and everything, till a woman came along and taught me about love. For a while, I wasn't angry any more. Three Cardassians raped her and smashed her skull. I joined the Maquis and tried to slaughter as many of them as I could find. How about you? Any family?What do you think actually happened? I think he walked in on his crush in a Cardassian gangbang and violently murdered her.
>>219975161Not only does it date the show badly, but also breaks the verisimilitude that >>219975103 is talking about, because instead of feeling like it exists in the future world of Star Trek, it feels like it exists in our world with a Star Trek aesthetic thrown over top of it. It further reinforces my belief that modern writers can't write genre stories beyond urban fantasy, hence why even sci-fi is written as urban fantasy despite that being wholly inappropriate for a show with the setting of Star Trek.
>>219975419The Starfleet Academy show where the characters spout off 2026 twitter-speak in the 32nd century is a perfect example.People will look back at these shows and cringe in embarrassment. That is if they still remember them (they won't).
>>219975184Kek they are all manlets
Imagine how draining it would be to be the captain of the TOS Enterprise. Every single time you tell your engineering department to make the ship go a little faster you get "CAPTAIN I CANNAE DAE IT! THE DILITHIUM CRYSTAL MATRIX, SHE CANNAE HANDLE THE STRESS, CAPTAIN!", then it miraculously gets done at the last possible second.
>>219975184why does Brent Spiner look like a big time coke dealer in every off-set picture of him from the 90s
Started season 3 of VoyagerWhy do the episodes feel longer than 44 minutes?
>>219975864Voyager always feels very bottle-y even for a Trek series. Seeing the same set of 4-5 Intrepid corridor sets over and over again kind of fucks with your perception of time if you watch more than a couple of episodes in a row.
>>219974080https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U5t3iNue2M
>>219975864Harry keeps turning up late for his shift
>>219974556I still remember Benny the Fucktard forcing the faggot cartoon and claiming this negress is 10/10 because she voices his favourite lezzie dyke.
>>219975720Everyone in engineering prob knew Scotty was running a grift
>>219975720lol I complained about that too when I was watching TOS. it's such an annoying contrivance. but at least Kirk is funny >Mr. Scott if you don't stop the shop from blowing up you're fired
>>219974556>It isn't for you, chuds!>WHY DIDNT YOU CHUDS WATCH IT!??
chuds are getting nervous
>>219975316Actually, I've done a great deal of research into this and it seems there is NO proof of any rapes occurring throughout the "occupation."
>>219976358Absolutely. Cardassians don’t rape. It’s just not in their nature. So obviously this guy freaked out over consensual sex (notice he doesn’t call her anything besides “a woman who taught me love”, meaning she probably didn’t even know he existed)
Finished DS9 and what the fuck was that? Why did Dukat turn into a cackling with lord with an evil magic book?
>>219976330i actually hope they succeed in bringing it back so all 5000 of them can force themselves to sit through another season of dogshit
the big thing i dont understand about nutrek and modern mini series vs classic episodic in general is what their plan is for 10 years from now. there arent enough episodes of anything to demand a good price for streaming rights and ads. the people who watch friends and sienfeld and law and order are quickly aging out of the market
>>219976394Behr and the others were butthurt that fans liked him so he ruined him out of spite yes I'm serious
>>219976394It was the will of the prophets my childYeah the writers did Dukat pretty dirty at the end, Least he banged Kai Winn which is hilarious
>>219976394They ran out of ideas, forgot about pacing, and had to end the show.
>>219974080> I don't want your game, just give me my caffeine fixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oRipJAlW5M
>>219976394pah-wraiths son
>>219976394if you write yourself into a corner you can always get out of it with a cosmic battle between unambiguous good and evil
>>219976465imagine if she drank coffee aaaaaaaaa
>>219976394the last season sadly sucks ass for the most part.
>>219976500She's already on a dangerous situation. Don't push coffee on her too. If you do, she may go nuts and start working the pole in Vegas
>episode opens with dinosaur archaeologists excavating human remainsHow can people not love this?
>>219974595Honestly, I always thought it would be cool to see a Gorn in Starfleet.
>>219975103Modern writers are not nearly as clever as they think they are. Even classic Star Trek was able to poke fun at its ridiculous stories. But it was done in a tongue in cheek way that didn’t break immersion. LD could have worked if the writers were as clever as early Futurama. And it doesn’t help that Hollywood blacklisted people who looked like Futurama writers from every writers room.
>>219975272You should try watching anime, I don't consider myself over-the-hill but sometimes I need a translator for all the Internet lingo in my Japanese translations
>>219974556They lost half their viewers by shipping Mariner with Jennifer for some fucking reason.
>>219977383they lost all their viewers because they ran out of ideas and the show went from somewhat tolerable to total trash. the dyke shit was a symptom of running out of ideas
>>219975200https://searchtrek.org/search/all/sneed/0
>>219976695Because it turns into a Chakotay episode which means he gets kidnapped, again, but makes friends with his kidnappers, again.
I was watching a YouTube essay that likened the game here to social media, and the whole time I'm like, Dude, there is nothing social about the game. Are you blind or stupid?
>>219976394Wdym? The pah wraiths are the true gods of Bajor. This has never been disputed
even though I just finished Enterprise I can't even rememberdoes T'Pol say "sen-sores" the weird way that Spock and Tuvok do? Or does she say it the normal way? I know with Voyager, it was Tim Russ being an aspie nerd and insisting. It didn't even come from the showrunners.Curious if they bothered with the consistency in Enterprise.
>>219977662I was just fucking confused about why he said this.
>>219975272Modern screenwriters grew up on 00s and 10s internet instead of reading books and living lives worth writing about. If you started dropping l33tspeak in mainstream TV shows 20 years ago, the editor would strangle you. Now you need to speak Brainrot just to follow the dialogue of a streaming show.
Unshown Star Trek history you'd like to see.O'Brien being a badass on Setlik III wall-to-wall killing Cardies.
>>219977932we had enough o'brien episodesits okay, his story is told
>>219976394For all the talk of DS9's serialized plot, they drop the ball on it pretty hard.
>>219977924>If you started dropping l33tspeak in mainstream TV shows 20 years ago,that would have been k-r4d and 31337 d00d watching h4x0rs do lpr spl0itz
>>219977932It would be funny if he made it all up and was a coward like Jake. Captain Maxwell covered for him in exchange for not revealing his war crimes.
>drunk Klingon takes a swipe at Quark but accidentally falls on his own knife>Quark claims he killed him in the fight>he was the head of a Klingon house and family come asking questions>through Klingon contrivance Quark marries into the house and becomes head>the house is weakened while a rival house grows stronger>Quark realises the rival house has been ruining them financially>it's brought to Gowron in court, rival house brings in Rom as a witness who saw the original knife fight>rival demands to solve the quarrel via a swordfight>Quark kneels on the ground and says it's tantamount to execution so let's just treat it that way>Klingon says OK, lol and raises bat'leth>Gowron stops him for doing something so outrageously dishonorable and dissolves his house>Quark gets a Klingon divorce which is a sudden slap around the face and getting spat onFuck I love everything about this, why are DS9 Klingon stories so much infinitely better than TNG Klingon stories?>B plot is another Keiko's ruining Miles' day storylol
>>219978058Yes. They would have an internet addict character talk like that to show he was a socially inept loser. Now you have middle-aged characters in business attire like "He's giving incel energy, bet" and we're supposed to take them seriously.
>>219978104>It's an O'Brien loads up a cardassian baby stroller with explosives and self sealing stem bolts episode
>>219977924Modern screenwriters all have the same brain programmed by Pavlovian updoots. You can watch season 5 of Fargo with the front page of reddit in 2020-2021 on a timelapse and watch the dialogue/plot beats line up.
>>219977767She did sometimes at least, I don't know about every time.
>>219978144>Klingon says OK, lol and raises bat'leth>Gowron stops him for doing something so outrageously dishonorable and dissolves his houseGiven the state of the empire we’ve seen, this begged credulity.
>>219977802Starfleet OFFICERS are trained to always tell aliens they're scientists or explorers.
>>219977802>>219978331Just Chakotay's expertise/interest of the week.It gets so ridiculous in the show that sfdebris fag did a joke where he rolls a dice first to find out what Chakotay is 'into' this episode. Literally that bad, because what do you even do with this boring fuck after you've done your Space Indian episode? The writers didn't know either.
>>219977802>When I was a boy I made a volcano in science class, using only household ingredients. I'm something of a scientist myself, you see
>>219977802anthropology is a science
>>219978562Vision quests aren't.
they are the best
>>219978590Racist.
>>219978148No cap?
>>219978590they are when you use an electronic disassociation machine to trigger the visions
>>219978466HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA AKEECHEE MY MOYA
>>219979521Why doesn't he just grow peyote in the hydroponics bay?
> He knows nothing of deception. He is innocent. Centuries ago, when the women of our tribe were raped by white conquerors, many gave birth to their children, and we did not reject them. They were accepted by the tribe. One was a direct ancestor of ours, Chakotay. His name was Ce Acatl. He became a great leader of our people. Here is a man who was given life without his mother's consent. Are you so different from her? And is your child so different from Ce Acatl?
>>219979552He is far from the peyote of his ancestors and there aren't enough replicator rations to make more.
We don't see much about how non-starfleet people live, are they all getting high on replicated drugs?
>>219979739They run vineyards, restaurants, freighters, and rape gangs.
>>219979739they're all replicating huge quantities of sugar and yeast to make hooch because the goddamned commies who run the federation only give them credits for a few standard drinks a week
>>219979739we saw Jake Sisko's future where he was in the BaYoU as a writer.
>>219979706His electronic disassociation machine should have some seeds of various sacred plants stashed inside of it.
>>219979739
>>219979739The work for free in post-money post-scarcity Louisiana restaurants.
TOS peaks in early S2TNG peaks in S4DS9 peaks in S5VOY peaks in S4ENT never peaks
>>219980019>computer replicate Sisko’s dad’s cooking and beam it to holodeck 1, initiate Sisko’s dad’s restaurant program 002 and engage. >add sexually aggressive women, disable small talk
>>219980113I had high hopes for ENT season 5.
>>219976330
>>219980113I'd say VOY peaks in S5 (Timeless, Bride of Chaotica) and DS9 first of S6 then starts running downhill when Waltz ruins Dukat (still a kinosode on its own, though).
>>219980394>DS9 first of S6first half*Specifically Rocks and Shoals.
>>219980013>Neelix, care to explain yourself?
>>219974080This episode presented a more compelling case for the virtues of abstinence and resisting peer pressure in teenagers than anything any christcuck has ever produced.
>>219979739What tickles my autism is that you never see any "normal" political dissent within the Federation, either among civilians or Starfleet. Every Federation citizen who has an opinion contrary to the ethical line being towed in a given episode or story arc is always depicted as either a duplicitous traitor or self-interested asshole.
>>219974556>Why did they cancel Lower Decks?Because Kurtzman hated it. He didn't want to do an animated Trek and he especially didn't want to do a Trek show that revered the Berman era.
>women aren't peopleHoly based
>>219975818Let's just say that wasn't makeup that made Data look so pale
>>219980672>revered*parodied
>>219980547It was a much better PSA episode than *ahem*
>>219980113the Xindi plotline is peak Trek
>>219980613the federation is perfect so only an antisocial FREAK would be against it
>>219980796I just think the threat of actual planetary destruction was a stake too high for a prequel series
>>219974094star trek sex with wesley
>>219980896Detonating a tricobalt device in Wesley's quarters as a joke
>>219980712Pretty sure it was everyone but Stewart and Wheton who were playing that in LA snow. Look how skinny they were.
>>219980747that PSA didn't even make sense bc weren't those aliens completely unaware they were addicted? Then wesley berates them for "willingly" doing it
>>219980933I'm thinking a Metreon Cascade. Do the job right.Even though Rinax never happened, (but it should have), and Jetrel did nothing wrong.
>>219980478
>>219981078Noooo you can't just exercise a tiny amount of willpower! I need my druggerinos!
>>219981078The episode tries so hard to make a point but literally the biggest victims are the drug dealer planet, who through no fault of their own, we born into a system that has absolutely no domestic industry or food production. The addict planet detoxing means billions will die of starvation war and famine on the deal planet
The hell was this supposed to be
>>219981286prewarp civs. who cares
He's my number one dad
>>219981456cute boy
>>219981180>They came on to me!
>>219981456KKMF
>>219981954cute boy
>>219974080that redhead was peak white hottie
>often regarded as the worst of the original movie series >actually watch it>it’s just okay with a mediocre plot about finding “god”
>>219975184Brent, lavar and patstew all look gakked outta their minds
>>219982286they didn't let wheaton have any cause he's a narc who can't hang
>>219981056Stewart was absolutely doing coke. You think cause he's old he wasn't getting down? I've chopped lines with 60 year olds. Everyone loves a quick toot of blow
>>219982353biggest cokehead i ever met was a morbidly obese 60 year old, i still haven't figured out how he's alive
>>219975184Brent kinda got that shit on tho
>>219982383>>219982383>Have you ever seen a landwhale with a cocaine habit?
>>219982467Actually yeah. Once you start doing coke regularly, the appetite suppression aspect goes out the window. Coke munchies are on a completely different level. You'll be ordering 5 shrimp cocktails, a 16 Oz steak, 4 sides of pasta, and 8 mixed drinks
>>219982286The android did the sniffy sniffy
>>219982353>You think cause he's oldHe wasn't even that old, he just looked it because he went bald early, that photo (presumably during the filming of the pilot) would've been taken around his 47th birthday.
>>219981056>this is skinny to amerifats
>>219974556They have no interest in making a tv show I’d watch much less a fucking Star Trek so I didn’t watch because they told me not to. Why am I the bad guy here?
>>219975864I found that both voyager and deep space nine get better when you binge them together like when they were airing. It gives you breathers between each show to consider what the fuck either group of writers were thinking
>>2199822571>6>2=3=5>4
>>219982257It’s got some grease performances by Shatner and Deforest Kelly but it just needed one or two more rewrites to iron out the problems with the plot.
>>219980113TOS peaks from S1 Corbomite Maneuver into like mid S2.
>>219983373Season 1 of TOS is my favorite Trek season period.
>>219982927>not that old>46 years young going on 47! ;)go to bed unc, dont forget your metamucil and heart pills
>>219983373and then it peaks again with spocks brain and yet again with turnabout intruder and then hits a final peak with jihad
>>219983282I’ve never seen anyone list 4 so low, it’s such a fun movie
>>219983462I'm going through season three now. And it feels like nibbling around the moldy parts of a piece of bread. There are some good episodes, and some really rotten ones. Sad to watch a show fall so far from the writing of season one. It feels like a lot of scripts were approved that shouldn't have been because everyone knew they were getting canceled.
>>219983312I thought the part with Bones and his dying dad was alright. A bit cliché, the doctor unable to save a relative. But Deforest Kelly made it work.
>>219978021I think most shows struggle to make a good ending
>>219982257Nah nu-media is just so bad that all the pre-2010s garbage is being "le reevaluated" and seems ok or even good in comparison. STV, ENT, SW prequels, Sonic 06, etc.
>>219984329it is fun but it is worse than all the other tos movies. its better than all the tng movies
>>219978202Most klingons don't actually give a fuck about honor, but they do care about the outward appearance of honor. They'll do the right thing so long as it's beneficial to them and they're given some honorable-sounding excuse for it.
>>219984476I thought it was a great little revelation that explains why McCoy is such a cynical prick all the time and particularly gets his panties in a twist when people take stupid risks and don't respect life and death shit. Good character shit.I liked Sybok, the actor, and his schtick, but the 'oh here's that brother I never mentioned before because reasons' rubbed me the wrong way obviously. And by the way Anakin also built 3PO. Totally unnecessary. Sybok could have just been some random Vulcan dude, or maybe someone Spock had truck with before in his extensive past and it would have been fine. In a vast galaxy, you don't need every single person related to everyone else. It just shrinks the world you're building and unnecessary complicates the character history, generates logical holes, etc.Imagine if Khan were Kirk's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. It doesn't add anything. Shit like that can work, but you don't need it for everything.
>>219985614Trekkies in 1989 were allowed to be outraged by Sybok, but in 2017 they weren't allowed to be outraged by Michael Burnham
>>219985097Watching Berman Trek back to back with your average Netflix or Amazon Prime show will make you appreciate the acting and storytelling so much more. One episode of TNG or DS9 has more plot momentum and better character interactions than an 8 hour streaming season.
>>219985666I don't get the outrage over either. The one consistent thing about Spock is he never, never talks about his family unless he has no other choice. Everyone assumed his family was dead on TOS until they came to visit. This was how it was in TOS, the movies, and Disco. Why the outrage? People act like Spock having a sister gave him cooties or some shit.
>>219975290Shouldn't expect any less from the heterophobic.
>>219978466I unironically enjoy SFDebris' videos
>>219986038It's not THAT any given family member exists, it's HOW their addition adds to the character and HOW it's done.He can have a half-brother sure, but 'oh by the way Sybok' was a pretty hamfisted intro and obviously a one-shot for that movie that he'll never talk about again.Burnham was total bullshit because it was a bald-faced and failed attempt to give NuTrek unearned cred on par with Rey and Han Solo's relationship after two seconds, whatever that shit was supposed to be. No sale. When you think about it, the idea that there are deviant Vulcan's trying the do the emotion shit is actually interesting and could have been expanded on with Sybok, but the half-brother stuff actually makes it all too neat and undermines exploration of it.Instead of, 'There are these deviant emotionfags on Vulcan we don't like to talk about', it's basically just 'my retarded Ruprecht half-brother that my family keeps in the attic and is ashamed of':https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vor59AHPFu4
>>219981321Kinoesque 1987 idea of a futuristic scanner
pretty much all of ds9 klingon shit is lame. explored everything well enough in tng.
219986038>discofag or troon detected
>>219986877>it's another klingon episodeTrue, and then they explored it some more on Voyager. It was really getting old.
>>219976329every time
>>219985097I liked Star Trek Voyager well enough when it originally aired. Enterprise was second screen background while I was playing Civilization 2 or 3, I forget which one.>>219984476
Why would the Kazon desperately need water when they have warp capable starships that could simply fly to the next ice comet and harvest the water?
>>219986420He has his moments I guess.6:00 minute mark:https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v928.phpRemembered that because it really hits the nail on the head.
>>219986038It’s Mary Sue shit
>>219986928Literally the only piece of Star Trek merch that is not cringe as hell. I'll give them this much.
>>219987004why locate and harvest something when you can steal it?
Is it true that most of the ACK sets and gizmos are getting auctioned off for around $5 a piece?
>>219986975By STV I meant Star Trek V the movie.
>>219982091He played Picard s nephew too
>>219975103nice shit-on anon
>>219987004That thinking is too abstract for Kazons.
>>219986420Yeah, what's the issue with SFDebris? I don't always agree with him, but he was ok content, admittedly haven't watched him in a long while though.
>>219987120I would buy some to set on fire (and then secretly keep some to artificially inflate the price because 20 years from now it will be treasured like a prop from Plan 9 from Outer Space)
>>219987120Everytime the ship is shaking due to some subspace anomaly, the chairs must be flying around the room, and not just the chairs. Flower vases, all the cute bathroom utensils, parfume vials. It must be a mess.
>>219986038We wuz Spock's family n shiet
>>219987254kek, are you sure this trash will ever reach cult status?
>>219987120it is true but you need to be able to get to ontario to take advantage because they dont ship. https://www.403auction.com/auctions/5246
>>219987024Disco shat on Burnham like it was going out of style. This girl was not allowed to be happy until sometime in late season 3. People say she's super special and perfect in one breath and also say she spends too much time crying over her fucked-up life in the next, like pick a lane. I don't think Disco is perfect, but a lot of the BS people say about it just does not make sense if you actually watched it.
>>219987128Oh OK, it wasn't my favorite, old ass Uhura doing her seductive fan dance was a real stretch, what does God need with a starship was a fun line, I dunno, it was dumb and not one I really ever want to watch again, but I can accept it.
>>219987342Wasn't she in her 50s when they filmed that?
>>219987235I assume he makes the VOYboys seethe for spreading the Insaneway meme.
>>219987337Neat, thanks anon. Looks like nobody wants this garbage. I would kill for an LCARS prop but the NuEnterprise control panels do nothing for me.
>>219987362At least her 50s, her grey was peeking through, I mean it was kinda fun, but like I said a bit of a stretch.
>>219987362Never noticed the cheap looking moon props
>>219987396can find some LCARS stuff on etsy. just need to put the time in to make sure its decent quality and not dropship chink shit
>>219987390But his whole I love Janeway, she's the best villain in the series is hilarious. I mean Janeway was very obviously written inconsistently by different writers. I mean, I like Janeway or maybe it's more I like Kate Mulgrew's performance. I never found her to be like tedious girl boss shit most of the time, she was a better example of lady in charge character even if she was very inconsistent in her characterization.
>>219987575janeway is a perfect example of women in charge because she behaves inconsistently
>>219979995Yeah, when I was in high school I hid my weed inside a speaker.
>>219987338Shitting on a Mary Sue is one facet of Mary Sueness, do you seriously not get that after like 10 years of the term entering mainstream discourse? Or are you doing the pretending not to understand thing?Melodramtically circlejerking over this super special tragic figure is literally part of the original trope when it first originated (from Star Trek fanfiction no less)
>>219974080You know, maybe I could understand the enterprise having families on it throughout season 1, they thought it would just be a diplomatic cruiser, but by season 2 or 3 they are regularly getting into life or death situations like 8 times a year (each season is supposed to be like 1 year right? and each season is like 24 episodes and I would say at least 8 of them have the enterprise going into a deadly situation). Seems really irresponsible innit? patrolling the romulan boarder with something that has a floating kindergarten on board.
>>219987004I'm still very early on in Voyager but the Kazons seem too stupid and primitive to have spaceships. Did they steal them?
>>219987856>Did they steal them?Yes, there's a whole thing with the other race that used to enslave them. It plays out over the course of the series but you get to see them at least a few times.
>>219987762No, Mary has to be perfect, loved, and shat on unjustly. Go watch the show and get back to me on that shit. They, full stop at points to just tell Burnham off, saying she's miserable because she thinks she can fix everything and never can and never does but keeps charging ahead to the next problem. I think this commentary on how her problems were never solved neatly in one episode literally just went over people's heads, and they were like, just use the deflector dish!?!?
>>219987878Based, that puts my mind to rest. ty anon
>>219987936Sounds unjust to me
>>219987878i dont think it ever comes up after the first ep but not having water always throws me off. what were they thinking? all you need is a compressor to pull water from any atmosphere in the sector, let alone all the ice everywhere. these retards were sitting in warp ships trying to steal water from even more retarded sand elves.
>>219987828I answered you in the other thread. Humans do not fear danger or death. They evolved beyond it. It’s why Picard tries to kill the entire crew with a self destruct without consulting anyone. It’s why Janeway actually did it once.
>>219988186It's dey kulcha. They've always stolen water so of course they're going to steal water. The spaceships are for stealing water not making water.
>>219988045I guess that depends on your views on being self-destructive. Some people just think hesitation scars are hot.
>>219987646You can have good even strong women in charge characters, but they have to have something of a maternal element to their nature and personality. My mom would make a good starship captain, and she'd scrub the toilets just as easily she solved the problem of the week.
>>219987254A video of a YouTube critic destroying NuTrek props would make more than the entirety of NuTrek did for Paramount. RLM and Critical Drinker made more money bashing SFA than SFA did for P+.
>>219987004Because the writers didn't know anything about space. Early on maybe they didn't have all the science advisors onboard. Shatner's universe destroying lore addition of the center of the galaxy caused similar damage to the franchise.
>>219987828You can't shelter and overprotect your children, what would you have them raised on creche worlds? They need to learn how to escape a stuck turbolift so they're better able to handle the situation when it comes up as an adult.
>>219987646And she gets lost.
>>219988186They were subterranean elves because the Caretakers accidentally'd their whole hydrosphere.
>>219977618>>219977383I'm near the end of season 1. First two episodes were fucking grating with maybe one decent joke each. It's picked up a bit since, but these posts make me feel like it's going to fall from not-good-but-funny to not-good-and-annoying.
>>219988274> It’s why Picard tries to kill the entire crew with a self destruct without consulting anyone.Riker looked so fucking pissed that scene. “I’m going to die before making Captain because this frog can’t control his temper!”
Wasn't France nuked to oblivion? I wouldn't drink that wine from the cancer soil
>>219988549sure but why not move them to a healthly planet or teach them how to make water? beaming supplies to them is not a solution. the only justification would be that they are too retarded to take care of themselves under any conditions.
>>219988587wesley was right. it was a bluff. picard doesnt have the balls to kill everyone. couldnt even blow up the ship when it was full of borg. janeway, on the other hand, would have started the self destruct before Nagilum made his first kill.
>>219974080The ultimate game
>>219988640It's why Picard lost his hair at a young age.
>>219975184Favorite: DataLeast Favorite: Jake
>>219988872I’d love a Stargazer movie trilogy where he gradually loses more hair as the films go on.And the last scene is him gathering his crew to announce the Ent-D’s five year mission.
Jeff post
>>219987646Janeway is perfectly consistent. She was specifically chosen for the Voyager mission because she's so bloodthirsty.
>>219988921Jake should’ve been executed. The worst kind of journo scum
>>219988962what movie is that? i'm trying to be the most complete coomber i can
>>219988640>nuked>yorkshiremen move inA fate worse than death.
>>219988563I tuned out in season 3 when it started to take itself seriously and shifts to romance and girlboss casually saves the galaxy. honestly love the idea of a star trek parody series, just needs to be focused on star trek parody. theres more than 700 complete stories to work with and thousands more threads to pull on. no need to get cute.
>>219989062 what sexual organs does them have anyway? God what a terribly written “social issue “ ep
>>219989174From Beyond, I think.
>>219989172did they ever put numbers on total federation causualties in the dominion war? the way they were acting theres no way starfleet could continue operations without a draft.
>>219989174damn are you me? my folder is like 85% complete and i just need the shit that is like actual lost media but I haven't watched through everything yet.>>219989255Cyclone
>>219989246all we know is two people squirt their sex juice on some kind of husk and then a new person grows out of it. speculating a little, it doesnt seem like they touch each other at all, each person expresses the sex juice on their own.
>>219989330It seemed like a lot given people they knew were dying every day
sped up you can see a bump. The camera got too close to the model and they continued with a zooming photograph with a slight offset.
>>219989246>God what a terribly written “social issue “ epnah i disagree, the limitations of the day had them create an oddly prescient episode. The ending is where it fumbles imo.
>>219989478oh neat
>>219989478oh yeah, nice catch.
>>219989246>themshe
>>219989484It was a gay episode not a tranny episode. Riker is analogous to and old gay helping some 13 yr old twink “find himself”
>>219989484In 2026 the episode is about a woman wanting to embrace her femininity after falling in love with a man, but her social circle insists she stay nonbinary.
>>219989340>Cyclonenice, thanks. this premise sounds dumb as shit, looking forward to it
>>219989851don't look forward too hard he's in it for like 20 minutes but I love him and his gf and the beginning their relationship is so cute and wholesome
>>219989837Their people are physically nonbinary. They took their meds and cured the cisthoughts
>>219983467Point is most people aren't so hopelessly bald at that age let alone decades earlier
i dont know if its brooks poor acting or bad writing but every time i get to the end of the saga i agree more with eddington
>>219990561Sounds like the words of someone who doesn't regularly dry-clean his uniform.
I forgot how bad she is in this. She's worse than Westley even performance wise. Has to be the worst recurring character performance.
>>219990561why is it called dry cleaning when it's actually not dry?
>>219990561I've never been able to get through DS9, that's how bad he is.
>>219991223Because it doesn't use water.
I was initially okay with Neelix being with kes because ocampa mature faster.>then I saw the episode where kes undergoes puberty>she’s very upset because she’s several years earlyNeelix… I
>>219991340klingons dont reach full sexual maturity until their 30s.
>>219991433teenboy klingons
>>219991433Alexander was 8 in DS9
>>219991433But klingons live to be well over 100. A species, like the ocampa, that only lives for 10 years should sexually mature much earlier.
>manages to overpower an android lol
>>219991676Data snapped Worf’s wrist with little effort. He could puncture Klingon rib cages if the censors would allow it. This was just the late season writers not caring anymore.
>>219991676klingons are very very strong
>>219991743klingons are very very very strong
>>219991796
>>219991574yes but worf suffered from klingon puberty induced acne in insurrection. since the women had only noticed their boobies were slightly firmer it suggests worf went through puberty relatively recently, like right before the start of tng. it fits pretty well with the culture. need to grow to adult size quickly so they can fight but dont get to breed unless they survive to middle age.
>>219991676data is a walking OSHA violation. i would refuse to serve with him.
>>219992027refuse dis dick
>£25-30 for an autographwould you spend £80 for an autograph from Admiral Forrest (£25), Travis Mayweather (£25) and Damar (£30) bros? I don't even know who the others are.
>>219991819>>219991796Klingons get beaten up by old men and women routinely
All it would take to save NuTrek is simply mandate that any writer or showrunner actually read books. Watching the dialogue of these new shows, I'm not convinced a single one of these writers has read a book since high school.I mean, ideally the writers and showrunners would also be interesting people who have led interesting lives, but the book reading is at least a very good start.
>>219992155How would that fix the issue of getting jackhammered in ur stupid fucking face by constant preaching and pozzing?
watching the game and was struck by how hot ashley judd is so i looked her up and this is what she looks like now. what the actual fuck
>>219992215Preachy dialogue is a result of bad writing and can be cured by reading classic literature, where preachiness is less common and, when it does appear, is at least handled with some style and finesse.
>>219992027Do you refuse to work with all computers and machinery?
>>219992286Preachy dialogue is not a result purely of a lack of competence but by the insane levels of zealotry these people have. And its not just the dialogue either. Look at nutrek academy, do you really think that show could have ever not been dogshit even if the writers had read dostoevsky and joyce lol
How likely would it be the villain in a Star Trek episode?>100%: Chaos Daemons, Death Guard, World Eaters, Dark Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, Adeptus Mechanicus, Ecclestiarchy>90%: Necrons>75%: Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Black Templars, Thousand Sons>40%: Eldar, Harlequins, Tau, Space Wolves, Blood Angels>30%: Votann>10%: Exodites
>>219992342If Weinstein were in charge of casting
>>219989550I think it would be "it".
>>219992215snowflake
>>219992302when i need to work with heavy machinary i treat it like the very real threat to life and limb that it is, not like a coworker.
>>219992268It's inevitable
>>219992155Trek Showrunners should have a Masters in Literature and eat Ulysses for breakfast. The decline in reading for pleasure has been a disaster for Hollywood.
>>219992342Political and ideological radicals have written great literature in the past, so yes, I'm absolutely convinced that the main problem is a sheer lack of competence and respect for storytelling as an art form. It's not the fact that the NuTrek writers are left wing that makes their shows bad; several great science fiction writers have been left wing. It's the fact that the NuTrek writers are stupid that makes their shows bad.
>>219989233>girlboss casually saves the galaxyThe worst trope of our time. Some of the eps in s1 actually show Mariner having some faults. Shame to know they settle on Mariner Sue
>>219992434ram your shitty bait up ur mothers ass
>>219992434Word means nothing anymore.
>>219992450Based and Joycepilled
I wonder what a Tony Gilroy Star Trek would've been like
>>219992451> several great science fiction writers have been left wingSocially/culturally right wing by today’s standards
>>219992550They weren't obsessed with identity politics and culture war nonsense, sure, I agree. Also likely a pathology that can be cured by reading books. I get the impression you might benefit from this treatment yourself.
>>219992602My first post in the conversation.
>>219992628Sorry, thought you were the other anon.
What was he?Another imprisoned Q?
>>219992673Sure, let's go with that
>>219992673What does Q need with a starship?
>>219992741Every omnipotent being is just Q trolling. Even other Qs
>>219991828I was thinking about this a while back when Crusher tells Geordi to stay away from high places for a while because he's dizzy. Because they have inertial dampeners that can affect a whole ship but they don't use it to stop shit inside it from breaking your spine.
>>219992779What about the prophets from the wormhole?
>>219994066
>>219993933Thats actually badass, id aux in some sony headphones to that
>>219992268transporter accident
>>219991676Data is exactly as powerful as the plot needs him to be, no more, no less.
>>219987089You wouldn't download H2O
>>219980671kek
>>219992673I think he's actually a rogue Cytherian. That was the race that Barclay sent the Enterprise to when he had gigabrainpower. Same method of contact too. Both looked for ways to bring people to them rather than go out and explore themselves.
>>219990995The actress wasn't the problem. They had no clue what they were doing with the character.
Trill seem pretty backwards for exiling people just because they wanna indulge in some reassociation.
couple 'o Trill in a Cabin somewhere reassociating all the heckin' time.
Reassociation prohibition is such a primitive stance. Let people love who they want to love as long as they are consenting adults.
>>219992268That's hot wtf are you on
>>219992088I would pay extra for Damar to write "Dukat did nothing wrong"
>>219995596I strongly recommend punctuation for this post>That's hot? wtf are you on?>That's hot, wtf are you on?either way, you seem pretty confused
>>219990561Eddington was right. About everything. He was also incredibly noble sacrificing himself for his ideals. Sisko at one point basically even admitted Eddington was right and never betrayed his ideals but you have to read behind the lines about why Sisko was so hell bent about catching Eddington: it was because Eddington set up Cassidy Yates to go to prison specifically because she was Sisko's lover. That pissed Sisko off and from then on he had zero mercy for the Maquis and especially none for Eddington. But like Sisko later admits, Eddington was the most loyal man he ever knew. Eddington didn't betray his uniform, Sisko did and he knew it. You can see Sisko's moral spiral towards despot towards the end of the series.
>>219995695Weak cope and very feminine
>>219995753Also, mocking someone who was widowed at Wolf 359 by saying he's worse than the Borg was a dumb move that guaranteed he made an enemy for life.Sisko was irrational for making the hunt for Eddington so personal, but Eddington basically brought upon himself IMO.
