https://youtu.be/uiGIbdrQjbII finally clicked it because I was truly bored and procrastinating. I clicked it just to give it a taste, because I was assured something disagreeable and triggering would come up that would justify my future measure to click off the video and finally stop procrastinating. Instead I ended up watching the whole thing. I can't lie guys, this bitch is good. Am I delusional? Is something wrong with me? I think I vaguely remember seeing even leftists decry this video, its not actually that politically one sided or motivated either. It's closer to philosophy, and youtube philosophy is typically garbage. Maybe I'm just dumb and thats why I liked it, what do you guys think?
>>219988181buy an ad tranny
>>219988215I don't advertise, I like to discuss stuff, why would I buy an ad?
>>219988230why would I watch a video made by some tranny?
>>219988215>Tranny! tranny! u a tranny! i a tranny?! TRANNY! Wheres the Tranny? Here Tranny? Tranny? TRANNY!!!!
>>219988394the video is of a tranny, anon
>>219988181yeah it's pretty good. her videos usually are. She makes leftists seethe now because she doesnt have leftie brain rot.
>gets botched facial feminization surgery>spends the rest of the year doing nothing but thinking about Saw moviesabsolute pottery
>>219988442Tranon, you're tannying to a tranny
it's very gay to like saw ironically
>>219988453She also believes that Israel has a right to bomb Palestinians eternally to "defend" themself, so shes just a "complicated" character I can't figure out.
>>219988466>>gets botched facial feminization surgerywhat? they look fine, guess they got surgery to fix the botch?
>>219988277Xe saws xer gock off.
>>219988568 look at the OP thumbnail. that jawline shaving looks really fucked up
>>219988642I mean yeah, but you cannot tell me youve never seen real life bio girls with jaws that...how do I put it? imbalanced? disproportional?
>>219988621So I'm the only who got recommended it? Nobody else not trans or left did? Damn. I guess I must want to be a woman.
>>219988691>I mean yeah, but you cannot tell me youve never seen real life bio girls with jaws that...how do I put it? imbalanced? disproportional?Real life girls don't need to pay $30,000 and get their face peeled off to look like that.
>>219988717>gets recommended tranny video essays>watches them>gets recommended video essays about how "crazy" and "layered" the saw franchise is in 2026 even though you probably ignored people telling you that for 15 years >watches them
>>219988844is being born with a proportionally fucked face really that much better a virtue?
>>219989035>is being born with a proportionally fucked face really that much better a virtue?yes it is, Paarthuurnax
Okay you know the thread is getting mentally ill when some dude posts bloody surgery heads, can we just talk about the interpretation of Saw in this video and how it finally makes it more interesting
>>219989095>okay wow like why would somebody post blood in a thread about saw movies.
>>219989095>finallyfuck off retardsaw has been interesting the whole timeyou needed a tranny to tell you about it through their warped worldview try watching movies, nigger
>>219988181Contrapoints is based
She makes me diamonds in a way that real girls never do. What is wrong with me?
>>219988542>She also believes that Israel has a right to bomb Palestinians eternallybased, I guess I like her now
>>219991537this is a pre-ffs face bruthaalso pretty sure she wouldnt appreciate being distinguished from "real girls"
>>219991586why is 4chan so cucked for Israel all of a sudden?
>>219988181Imagine being such a retard that you start a thread without specifying what it's about.
>>219988181I'm sorry but I tried watching some of his and tube's videos and they were just bad meandering nonsense. I guess the costumes are cool but I'm here for philosophy not costumes.
>>219991699I thought only people who watched the video would care about the thread anywayIts too complicated a video to reduce to a couple sentences, and I know how 4shit is. If I reduced it to a couple paragraphs you smooth brained retards wouldnt read anyway.
>>219991631to be fair this is relatively old, a change of recent opinion is possible
>>219991772Also as an example of what I'm talking about there's a philosophy tube video on political violence where he goes over various leftist philosophers ideas of what violence is and isn't justified and he doesn't really walk away with a clear conclusion while also vaguely suggesting that it's ok to vandalize cars that have a bad carbon footprint even though there are philosophers with more clear ethical philosophies he could've discussed.
>>219988181Contra is pretty smart. I don't agree with most of what he says, but he presented his case very well in the Saw video. You're not wrong for enjoying it. It's a good video.
>>219991827no, fagyou just needed to be told by some tranny e-celeb you like to care about saw and you suddenly want to talk about sawunfortunately for you, we sawheads can spot a fucking poser
>>219991889Not coming away with a conclusion is fine aslong as you validly present an argument against and for both cases. The most important part is that the two arguments actually have to engage with one another. I'm not a philosophy student, I tried taking it in University, I wont explain why it went wrong. But I genuinely love philosophy as a subject and try to read it in my freetime.Philosophy Tube is just straight up bad and fundamentally doesnt understand philosophy and doesnt represent it honestly (See her Nietzsche video) The reason I know contra is smarter, is because she did something in this video that I kept a close eye for. She actually acknowledged that many people don't consider Jigsaw necessarily a villain and tried to address and explain why. Philosophy tube will use quotes to affirm a preconceived belief. She won't engage with the ideas.I can't expmain with specifics becauee PTubes videos are so bad I often dont watch them and the Nietzsche video was genuinely horrendous.Contras use of quotes dont carry the weight of her arguments, the support it not affirm it, its a subtle difference that I dont know how to explain. I was surprised how little philosophy she actually even included, so many of her points later in the video were things I had straight up heard out of Nietzsche or Focaults mouth. But she was able to express it coherently in her own words without leaning on quoted words from either of them, which I half expected.One of the biggest ways you can tell somebody doesnt understand philosophy is how aggresively they go "X Philosopher says..." as if them saying something justifies the assertion. No, Philosophers build towards their quotes and arguments, its why they write books, not papers and essays, whole entire books just to establish a series of connected ideas.
>>219992125>Contra is pretty smartI agree, this video convinced me of it. So many subtle things they do to layer and establish their argument, and even though theres ultimately no directive, or say on how people should approach violence, there is yet still genuine information and a deeper understanding elucidates about how violence manifests, is valued, and at the very least that, we cannot keep going about it how we have. That is a conclusion. Just an uncomfortable one that forces us to actually solve a problem, now that that problem has been clearly laid out indepth in a way that can be understood.
>>219991843Recent source on her believing that Israel has a right to bomb Palestinians eternally to defend themselves?
>>219993466>>219993466this.
>she>her
>>219988215fippy
>>219994952that seems fairly contrarian and reactive and non principles based
>>219988181why tranny faggots always use the satanic aesthetic? i know they hate god so being a faggot tranny into satanism is their response but like have they ever considered they are just retarded? responding to discontent in your life with transgressivness is profoundly retarded.It's also unhinged, you are not offending anyone, nor you are going anywhere you faggot.
>>219988542Dude, fuck Palestine, who cares?
I liked some of ContraPoints older stuff but I feel like her video became increasingly just an excuse to dress up in fancy costumes and light herself in fancy lighting while rambling about something random.You're saying it's not that political but that's kind of my problem, I subscribed to her for political analysis. I'm gonna be honest, the only ones of those early "breadtubers" who's still uploading wortwhile videos, albeit very infrequently, is Shaun. I have nothing against HBomberguy or Contra, I guess, but there more recent stuff just isn't that interesting to me.
>"When i was a teenage boy i had the sense of an old woman and now that i'm an old woman..."Let me stop you right there.
>>219996649I think it's funny how all those alternative free spirited progressives always turn up looking like demonic caricatures one way or anotherYou can't fight the system by being honest, stoic, loving, healthy, free, strong, disciplined and educated apparentlyBut you CAN fight it by splitting your tongue, piercing your skin and stretching your earlobes, tattooing everything including your eyeballs, taking chinese hormones and plastic cocks up the ass, fucking niggers, worshipping megacorporations, seething about american politics and being on your phone at least 6 hours a dayIsn't that downright peculiarAny way this board is dogshit, no different from a subr*ddit, and mods are trannies who should be put to death ;)
>>219996649>>219996863not sure if you guys are aware, but youre mentally ill and retarded, contra is not satanic, shes a safe pussy lib whos edgiest and most transgressive beliefs are one that a significant amount of retarded boomers and christian evangelical republicans share: Israel has the right to bomb as many Palestinians as necessary as long as possible under the pretense of self defense so that they can feel safe
>>219996778>You're saying it's not that political but that's kind of my problem, I subscribed to her for political analysis.Brother....politics is so banal. Its a good thing shes not heavily political, it means she can access opinions and judgements that people like Shaun simply never can, no matter how technically "correct" they may be dunking on retarded republicans. I like shauns videos too, I dont like shaun himself and his beliefs and opinions.Its the distinction between intelligence that is tied to memory and the ability to research, and intelligence that is tied to the exploration and creation of concepts and ideas, not just collecting data, but sorting out its value, which precedes the search for data itself.
>>219988181As far as trannies go, I actually kind of like her as a person. And I think she's quite smart and has an interesting mind, I'd probably get along with her. But smart doesn't mean correct... I also think she has rather immoral, backwards take on life, and truth and untruth. I'm also very opposed to her politics, even if she and I would agree on certain fundamental rights (and it least on that level, be allies)She's effectively serving Satan turning a lot of people towards queerness though, and I hope she finds Jesus and turns from this path
>>219997461Nah, I'm not taking that away from you, I get why you find ContraPoints more broad thoughts and observations interesting. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, although there wasn't much in the Saw video that really gave me any new perspective I wouldn't have arrived at on my own or made me think "I never thought of it like that."I like Shaun, because I actually learn some cold, hard facts about the subjects he's talking about. His videos are informative. I actually learned new things about ideological subversion in science. I actually learned about the colonial roots of Israel. Sure, it's all stuff I could have researched myself but I still appreciate someone putting together a comprehensive video on it and presenting it in an entertaining way.
>>219997790> I don't think there's anything wrong with that, although there wasn't much in the Saw video that really gave me any new perspective I wouldn't have arrived at on my own or made me think "I never thought of it like that."Me neither. But maybe thats because ive moved past the point of valuing raw "truth" as much, and heavily valuing process and thought. I was the guy earlier saying that towards the end of that video, a lot of her conclusions on justice and violence reminded me of stuff Nietzsche and Focault have said, and I say that because I have read enough Nietzsche and lectures on him, as well as Focault that I can recognize that. But what I found valuable about her video is the way she thoroughly explored those ideas in such a new way without needing heavily quote philosophers like somebody who doesnt actually understand them, but wants to invoke them.Her exploration of violence and justice covered almost all the relevant bases to our modern world, it could have been deeper yes, particularly the part about how rehabilitative justice can actually just be turned into a different form of retributive violence (almost straight from focault, which is why i think it could have been deeper) But I value so much when somebodh lays everything out in the open, rather than trying to "correct" or speak "truth". Because sometimes speaking truth is just "preaching" its not meaningful.She also made Jigsaws inconsistencies more coherent, and nicely commented on so many disparate topics like the pedohunter obsession. It was just so thorough and welldone imo, maybe not in that "research" way, but in the "relevance" way. And I have a theory of truth about that.
>>219997656>She's effectively serving Satan turning a lot of people towards queerness thoughI don't really get that impression, shes just a lot more honest and homely about her queerness despite all the grand aesthetics. Anybody who veers towards queerness because of her was already heading that way and likely stumbled upon her because of her vague association with queer creators that came after her and followed in her style, but more aggresively "political" and "identity" based.
>>219988181nobody on the left likes her. she's basically like ben shapiro of the (amerimutt) "left"
>>219998258why
>>219988181Dude, that's a tranny.
>>219998767why?
>>219998839>why?Because it's mentally ill and had a number of surgical procedures performed to transform delusion into reality.The more pertinent question is why are you watching it?
>>219998922>The more pertinent question is why are you watching it?I explained in op. Showed up in my recommended and finally decided to stop ignoring it because I was bored and tired of watching rust youtube videos, was in the mood for meaning and analysis and thought "What could somebody possibly say about saw for 1 hour that would interest me, when I think people approach the movies with some of the most midwit moral takes ever "what if...its actually right to hurt people that do bad things...woah thats deep""And she basically handled that topic as perfectly as a philosopher would, without being as smart as a philosopher, or as abstract as one. Just smart enough to say something I already agreed with, in ways that I never really thought of, through the tacit exploration of a bunch of violent movies, contexualized to relevant aspects of the modern day, like the patrick bateman memes, pedohunters etc.I'm honestly surprised she didnt bring in school shooters into the topic. I'm sure she debated it, but thought against it because literally nobody whatsoever sympathizes with school shooters, and even though, thats exactly why it would have been perfect for this topic, the equivalent was already basically addressed in a less "real" and "immediate" way with the nazis from inglorious bastards
>>219998697from what I've seen "she" isn't leftist enough for the left in that "she" failed their constantly convoluted purity tests
>>219999607She defended Zionism. It rubbed a lot of people appalled by the crimes committed, particularly recently, in the name of Zionism the wrong way. It's really not that esoteric.
>they/them/zim/xir is reduced to shilling crim/cram/slim/slam's slop on 4chanMake a 10 hour video about why leftists deserve to be put into work camps and I'll subscribe.
>>219999584>and you can clearly see that with retards like Hasan who practically labels everyone who disagrees with him as a zionist jewOh weve got a retard here
>>219988181>bitchOliver?
>>219988181I'd rather hear Jenny's thoughts on Saw.
>>219988181>Do not recommend this channel anymorebuy an ad
>have pretty tame socialdemocratic beliefs>not really interested in politics>people suddenly start calling transgenders after their preferred gender>I think this is weird, I'm not going to artificially change my speech or have that person compel me to play along in a fantasy as it's just dishonest and manipulative>fast forward a few years>even 4chan users call men she nowso I'm an extremist now?
>>219988181Some of her videos are very annoying, but her conspiracy video is legit goodShe's very hit and miss imo
>>220001267No, just a stubborn, inconsiderate cunt.
This thread is filled with hasan piker's faggot discord
>>220001370Is it considerate to lie a friend to the face and pretend that you actually see them as a "she" when you really don't and every time you say "she" you think "he" and they go around thinking you think otherwise. That's not real human connection to a peer.
You shouldn't be allowed to post if you're on ssri's
>>220003036B A S E D
>>220003036Yeah and women aren't men. That we can agree on. But transwomen are women and transmen are men.
Who shills for a fucking tranny's video for free?Who namefags in said shill thread for free?
>>220001550or Indian
>>220001550might ip ban USA then
Only 1m views in a month damn she’s fallen off she used to get like 6m first week. This is what happens when you make millions off of patreon and decided to not to put out hardly any content anymore. The audience gets fed up for contributing millions of dollars a year to you for 1 fucking video a year
>>220003521>why is something connected with the Saw franchise being shilled on /tv/>for free haha good one
>>220003956>6m first weekthat was during covidalso I don't think there's as much crossover audience between Saw and natalie as between Twilight and natalie, just a possibility. the only people still watching Saw films are the lowest of the low, equivalent to fans of Zack Snyder.
>>220003956It's just kind of a crap video too, some pseudo-intellectual wank about the Saw films being an underappreciated trans-allegory.
>>220003442Wrong again.
just ah post the bussy already so I can jerk off and go back to work
>>219988181>Gets raped by Philosophychoob