What was the message of this film?
social media is a blight on mankind
TURN THE MUSIC OFF
That all the nazi shit spammed here actually comes from the left wing.
Violence meant to hurt the audience
>>219992122Police your brass.
Ari Aster is a hack
>>219992122Antifa super soldiers are REAL
>>219992219>>219992166There's one now.
What was with those antifa guys at the end? Antifa are psycho retards, not a well trained paramilitary organisation. It felt like a dream or something and almost came out of nowhere
>>219992219They worked for the data center billionaires, man. They were mercs.
>that fucked up week where that anon made everyone watch it
>>219992266>>219992166Second splc nazi false flag shill
>>219992219>>219992266congratulations, you fell for it
>>219992122The message was that politics is a form of distraction used to keep you fighting your neighbor instead of solving the real problems
>>219992122>What was the moral>What was the point of this character >Why won't the other kids play with me>When is Daddy coming home
I’d be very cautious of anyone who reviews Eddington as “centrist.” They might be projecting.There's this awesome comic anthology published by World War 3 Illustrated called Now is the Time of Monsters. The title is plucked from the Italian legend Antonio Gramsci, who wrote:“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”Gramsci penned those words while imprisoned by Mussolini’s fascist regime in 1930. The quote later reached English readers through a translation by Marxist scholar Joseph Buttigieg. Yes, that Buttigieg, Pete's father.Gramsci’s words capture a turning point between the tension of Communism and the spring of unfettered Capitalism, where the future hung in dangerous uncertainty. Hence the "monster time". The quote is apropos for World War 3 Illustrated, the underground comix anthology that paints a weird and ugly portrait of America, post-9/11, post-2008 but pre-pandemic. What came after the pandemic, however, is a whole new and weirder chapter of America that no film has really captured effectively.Eddington, to the best of my judgement, is probably the closest we'll see a contemporary director embody the underground comix ethos on this scale at that particular breaking point in the Pandemic. It was like flipping through my back issues of Daniel Clowes' Eightball or Pete Bagge's brilliant Hate.Aster leans into aesthetic flatness as a deliberate strategy, less a stylistic choice than a necessity. The sheer sprawl of what Eddington tackles demands it. Try listing its subjects, and you'd quickly lose the thread:-QAnon-Bill Gates-Black Lives Matter-Cancel culture-Conspiracy influencers-YouTube radicalization-Pandemic profiteering-Silicon Valley techno-libertarianism-Pseudo-religious grifters-Surveillance capitalism-New Age nationalism-Deep state paranoia-Instagram spirituality-The cult of individual sovereignty-the Jesuits-Gun rights-Antifa-Tom hanks-Bitcoin
>>219992266They were not antifa, retard. Did you not see the logo on the plane?
>>219992122The Tower of Babel.We talk more but understand less. A punishment from God (the oligarchy).
>>219992781>It was like flipping through my back issues of Daniel Clowes' EightballYes. He is also in the movie. It is a centrist epic.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MEEEEEEE
>>219992977Checked and I can't believe this movie didn't get a single fucking nomination.
>>219993011critics and the festivals didn't seem to care for it. the covid/BLM talk made people uncomfortable
>>219992830Nah its been a while since I saw it so my memory is hazy. What were they?
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>>219992977>I WILL MAKE YOU CASH
>>219993055>Checked>Nigga posted the shitty HDR webm with no colorLmao>>219993258They are agents of the data center people. Just like in real life. All that antifa shit? Fake. It was perfect kindling to get retard rightoids to repeat "liberal cities are burning!!". >>219992424 is right. It really is about how divide and conquer works. How truly evil money is used to pit neighbor against neighbor.
>>219992122>le covid made things difficult>maaahhhhnnnn
>>219992781Thanks gpt
>>219993397On dog I thought that was a chatgpt reply.
the tech center mercs kinda sucked to be honest. they had the element of surprise and still struggled to kill one guy dying of COVID
>>219992122both sides are being duped into a culture war so large corporations can take over>>219993055the left and hollywood in general couldn't handle being called out in any way, and hated the notion that the left is funded by extremely rich, even though thats whats actually happening.
>>219993443i think they underestimated Joaquin a bit because he came off like such a moron. he was already tipped off from surviving the explosion so the surprise was gone
why did he do it
>>219993055Yeah, of course this film isn't going to be a clean and tidy portrait of America. Maybe because I was raised on a steady diet of sprawling, (often) cynical and serialized comics and zines since I was a kid, I really take to Aster's style. Eddington feels like it was made from the same cloth of those weirdos, dressed in the skin of a Western. It's less a "thesis" than a shotgun splatter of media overload. Aster knows this. Just look at Joe's campaign truck. It's a hodgepodge of ALL CAPS slogans, fragmented phrases, and ideological non-sequiturs. It looks like the early days of internet banner ads that would adorn any free Wordpress site you'd visit in the early 2000s. Aster overwhelms the audience with a relentless barrage of language, as if to suggest we’re trapped in this logocentric world where words have lost their meaning.Every philosopher worth their salt spoke of language decay. Wittgenstein wrote about how when reality shifts (like during the pandemic), our language games broke down. That nutty Pomo Baudrillard talked about language and slogans sounding meaningful but signifying nothing. But most recently, philosopher Byung-Chul Han has argued that in the digital attention economy, language is flattened. Communication becomes a compulsive neurosis rather than having anything meaningful to say. Language breaks down and, inevitably, society.
>>219992122That Beau is afraid.
>>219992781>>219993678thanks chatgpt
>>219992424Spot on.
the native sheriff was based. was he on his way to arrest joaquin when shit went down?
>>219993667Son of a dipshit.
>>219993761Yeup.
>>219992122For me, the message was this: If you'd don't start no shit, there won't be no shit. It's a sad world we live in today... People seldom forgive wrongs.
for me, it's the song playing when the homeless guy wrestles joaquinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG79QGmKt7U
>>219992122best film of 2025
wtf
>>219992122People have already correctly touched on the larger message here, but I do think there are some interesting things about Joe Cross that are underdiscussed.Cross is intended to be sympathetic up until a certain point, and I disagree with those who think he is supposed to be a bad guy from the beginning.Cross is someone who was called upon to save Eddington, and failed. He was in the best position to stop the data center from being built, the same tech that is rotting all of our minds. He understood that we need to open our hearts to each other instead of engaging in hateful, selfish, and self-righteous behavior that much of the left engages in in the film. In the end, he fails because he chooses to believe what he wants to believe out of petty hatred instead of what is true. He fails to truly emotionally reach Louise, and understand her suffering, which is how she falls into Vernon's hands. He chooses to believe Ted is guilty instead of Louise's father, which not only sabotages his political campaign, but completely humiliates him on the public stage.After all this, much like the people whose minds have been corrupted by the overwhelming flow of information in social media, he snaps and becomes irredeemable.
>>219994267Something else people should notice on a rewatch: many people walk around in this film like they are in a Western. Except instead of reaching for their guns, they reach for their phones. Every time you see a phone in this movie, you should look at it as if the person pulled out a gun, because the phone is indeed being used as a weapon. The videos being shot, to cast one individual as the victim/hero, and the other as the villain, is the bullet that is being shot.
>>219993984That's a cool song. For some reason it reminded me of this.https://youtu.be/hpvqU2cmK8I
>>219994267I think he was so against the data center just because his enemy was trying to get it done. Cross was a fucking nimrod proven through out the entire movie and didn't start buying into the deep state shit until going up against Pascal
>>219994457i used to love that band so much. that album in particular is great
>>219994490I enjoyed that album a ton. The CD lived in my car stereo for weeks. Good times.
>>219994267Language, in Eddington, is already broken. From the opening scene, we meet Clifton Collins Jr. as an unrecognizable "unhoused" man: homeless, vagrant, tramp, derelict (see how language changes, but the meaning remains?). He mutters an incoherent stream of gibberish, signaling within its first minutes the seeming incoherence of Eddington, a town where words have died, along with their meaning. Aster then cuts to Joe Cross, our supposed protagonist, watching a YouTube video titled How to Tell Your Wife You Want a Baby. This is the man through whom we’re meant to experience the world, someone barely able to articulate, let alone emotionally connect. And yet he’s the one preparing to lead an entire town? To lead the audience into interpretation of reality?When Joe Cross decides to turn his role as sheriff into a mayoral campaign, he has his deputies generate a list of slogans like someone feeding a prompt into ChatGPT asking for “good campaign lines.” None of them are particularly good. But then again, neither are Ted Garcia’s. His campaign video is just a lifeless checklist of buzzwords he believes in, rattling off everything from “racial inequities” to “green technology” with all the passion of a terms-of-service agreementWe've all read this kind of dead language in the technocratic age. Hell, I've read my share of film reviews that feel like the result of some regurgitated Large Language Model prompt. So when Austin Butler shows up as the snake-oil - er, sorry, Snake Slayer - salesman Vernon Jefferson, it’s no surprise that he starts spouting lines to Louise about ”God talking through her" and throws out #ImDeep token platitudes like “Love is slavery.” Everyone in the town just nods along, as if it means somethingAt its core, Eddington is about how when language is stripped of meaning and the less things make sense, the more malleable and controllable populations are. The most powerful of institutions have always known this
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>>219994720Around the 1940s, as Westerns dominated the silver screen and shaped the American mythos, the CIA quietly launched Operation Mockingbird where they infiltrated major media outlets to manipulate public perception. Their strategy was both simple and devastating: flood the information space with confusion, contradiction, and narrative overload (all ironically critiques aimed at Eddington). They recruited journalists, planted stories, and blurred the line between truth and fiction. They wanted to obscure the world, and dismantle people's trust in it. The intended effect? A population that would:1. Grow cynical and apathetic2. Withdraw from civic life and/or religious duties3. Cling to extreme or cartoonishly simple narratives just to make sense of the noiseStanley Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket embodies this linguistic breakdown. The film, centered on a war journalist during the height of the CIA’s psychological operations, is packed with Orwellian doublespeak. Authority figure don't just embody contradiction, they have to spell it out to us. When a General sees Private Joker's “peace” button paired with “Born to Kill” written on his helmet, he asks if it's "some sort of sick joke," a meta-gag from Kubrick on the postmodern audience’s need for having things spelled out.Or take Joker's deadpan declaration:"The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.”How do the dead know anything? Exactly! Print it! Kubrick understood that language, especially in the hands of authority, can be both absurd and deadly. And Ari Aster understands it too.
>>219994892what in god's name are you blathering on about
>>219995008In Eddington, Aster weaponizes the same propaganda toolkit: confusion, contradiction, and narrative overload. The film forces us to contend with this stratagem dead-on. While the gulf of media grows between Slow Cinema, 4-second TikToks, and 12-part Netflix series, the cohesion is lost. Language becomes hyper-personalized and fragmented through technology, on purpose. Eddington is a story about how politics, spirituality, and power use technology not just to speak to us, but manipulate the very language we use to understand the world ("Your Being Manipulated").As communication becomes more complex and we break out of the linguistic trenches of the written word, so, too does our grasp on that reality. Everyone in Eddington is essentially saying "goodbye to language" in the most Godardian way and "goodbye to reality" in their own sad or immaterial ways. There's this great review of a similarly divisive film Do The Right Thing by Jonathan Rosenbaum that I revisit time and time again. In it he writes:We all tend to assume that no matter how imprecise or impure our language may be, it still enables us to tell the truth if we use it carefully. Yet the discourse surrounding Do the Right Thing suggests that at times this assumption may be overly optimistic — that in fact our everyday language has become encrusted with so many unexamined and untruthful assumptions that it may now be inadequate for describing or explaining what is right in front of us.I feel similarly about Eddington. It's a picture that almost gets over-simplified when talked about. It actually is the opposite of a "word-of-mouth" hit in that you can't summon the language to begin to explain it. I constantly read takedowns, cartoonish comparisons, or ironic quips about Eddington, but few that capture the inexplicable. I suppose that's what makes cinema kind of special in that way.
>>219995008A schizo is talking. Sit down and listen. Also I think it's time to rewatch Full Metal Jacket.
>CUZ BABY YOU'RE A FIREWORRRRRRRKi guess originally the song during this scene was going to be that Jay Z/Alicia Keys song about New York. I don't think that would have been as kino
>>219993011It bites the hand that feeds it in too obvious of a way and was shunned as a result, I suspect history will be kinder to itIt's funny to compare to One Battle After Another, which very similarly critiqued elements Hollywood would be sympathetic too, but its satire of the self important inane weather underground knock offs may have gone over the heads of academy voters who took them as unironic heroes. Perhaps Eddingtons more piercing commentary on who is behind it all (the rich) was too real for the elite class to condone
>>219995403PTA was based for coming out and saying Eddington was one of the best films of the year. You didn't see a lot of directors doing that. Scorsese might have too but he basically says that about every Aster movie
>>219995230In that same review, Rosenbaum notes that the most valuable insights into Spike Lee’s film at the time came not from written critiques, but from conversations he had about it. One such conversation was with film critic Bill Krohn, who:Views the film itself as a conflict between discourses, an approach that he traces back to Jean-Luc Godard in films of the 60s like La chinoise and 1 + 1(the latter known in the U.S. as Sympathy for the Devil), films that were similarly misunderstood 20 years ago because people assumed that the violent discourses they contained — from French Maoists in La chinoise and from black radicals in 1 + 1 — were necessarily and unambiguously the views of Godard, rather than simply discourses that he was provocatively juxtaposing with other discourses.Aster, in that sense, is following in a rich tradition of the great post-modern filmmakers like Lee, who found broad entertaining contradictions in the hyper local corners of America (in Lee's case, it was a city block in Bed-Stuy).Eddington offers a more frustrating contradiction, I'd argue. Aster takes the Western - a genre traditionally known for its simplicity and clear binaries - and riddles it with complex and unsettling ambiguities. It's reminiscent of Jane Campion's anti-Western, The Power of the Dog, through the comedic lens of Clowes/Coens.
the only moments that dragged a bit for me were scenes with Joaquin and Emma Stone. I get why they were necessary but the movie came to an entire halt and they went on too long
i was confused why this guy even bothered showing Cross the video of the kid's tiktok at the end. he hated Cross and knew he was basically a vegetable, so why even bother? he was just using the tragedy to get the data center built
>>219992166>people wanting their own country == coordinated psyop conspiracy>people wanting to relinquish their country to invaders because they're paralyzed by guilt and irrationally hate their race == totally organic, logical mental state
>>219995008Something, something, language. A pseudo intellectual that thinks that if articulates and obfuscates in a certain way that it makes it sound like he was smart enough to find the slit in the curtains. In actuality, past the burnt out synapses from heavy psilocybin, his observation boils down to "people have differing opinions, so we can't work together". The retard doesn't realize that it has always been this way, we just see it more frequently because of social media.
>>219994892my problem with these discussions around postmodernism and linguistic breakdown/control is that they never offer much of a solution, and if they do it's just some vague "be genuine" shit that people have been preaching forever. The FMJ stuff is interesting though
>>219996282It’s ironic to see people frustrated by the film’s distinctly bloated postmodernist and anti-Western approach, yet unknowingly defending the very archaic Western tradition it challenges. Many mistake the film’s complexity for “centrism,” when in fact it delivers a complete repudiation of the Western genre’s conventions. It takes the postmodern pluralism that's been embraced (especially) in arthouse cinema of competing narratives and perspectives to dismantle the simplistic binaries at the genre’s core. In a bleakly anarchic reversal, it’s almost anti-Dostoevskian: here, the “guilty” get rewarded and the "innocent" are punished. How centrist. I'm actually confused by the deduction from some critics of its "centrism." That read feels like an oversimplification, an easy reaction to a barbed, unwieldy work that feels too true to dismiss but too chaotic to decode. Others write off his dialogue as “bad,” when really it’s characters fumbling through confusion, desperately trying to say the right thing and failing. That failure is the point.In that failure, the film feels like it’s built to resist any single meaning, while somehow inviting all meanings at once. Take one of Aster’s more striking visual flourishes: he dollies down the aisle of a private jet into the mask of a George Soros–funded ANTIFA member, then dollies out through a black BLM square on an Instagram feed. It’s funny, almost cartoonish but it also tips reality into the realm of fever dream. Because while, yes, as the New York Times reported, Soros did pledge $220 million to racial justice organizations, the idea of ANTIFA operatives flying private jets, smoking cigarettes (like they're anonymous anarchists out of Godard's La Chinoise) is pure conspiratorial farce. Aster amplifies the logic of internet paranoia until it breaks.
>>219992122Joaquin Phoenix is Nic Cage level of do anything on camera for a buck.
>>219996354he'd have been in a marvel movie by now if that were true.
>>219996188He was torturing him.
>>219992122Who car3s
>>219992424My """neighbors""" are the ones creating the real problems. And the solution you demand as necessary is me just letting them make whatever crazy & destructive change they want to the Society I & my children have to live & work in.
>>219993379>Leftists are violent retards, to the point of forming a provably real terrorist-group>Leftshit damage-control: "...Th-...Th-They're not r-real..."
>>219995802can you fuck off GPT
>>219993379>seething about a webmfaggot
>>219992122It was very gay.
>>219992122The left is manipulated and leftists are pointless puppets
>>219999463retard if you honestly got that from this movie
>>219992122>What was the message of this film?That the entire two-party system is a control system/hybrid regime kept in place by the elites to distract from the emergence of an oligarchy by weaponizing fringe cultural issues and blasting them everywhere at all times, be it Tranny shit, BLM, etc. and opportunistically switching "sides" for optics whenever it's convenient to do so.I liked this movie at first but it has really grown on me since I've watched it to where I'd argue it's arguably the best American film of the decade alongsied Marty Supreme and Warfare. It gets extra credit though because it is quite ltierally the only movie that has dealt head-on with the politics and culture of this period in a sophisticated manner.
>>219999654De te fabula narraturYou're evidence of leftist clueless stupidity. Cope
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>>219992830>>219993270ehh, it's still essentially trying to say that Antifa isn't a real threat and it's all been blown out of proportion. You faggots aren't helping yourselves by acting like this purposefully convoluted plot line was some kinda genius slam dunk from Ari Aster, misleading the audience. He only misled the audience into a film that turns to complete shit halfway through because he doesn't know how to tell a cohesive story.
>>219999659It's such a good movie and I think people dislike it because of whatever various "side" they are on. The idea it needs a single "message" is stupid. It says quite a bit. I love the ending, where the mom character, who has been reclusive and hiding and depressed during covid is now basically the mayor, having done nothing to earn it. It's such a wonderful reveal and turn in the story. She's this nothing forgettable character. It's almost like a murder mystery where you forget about them and they played a major role in the murder but flew under the radar. She's not rambling anymore when in public, she's leaning into the fun of giving speeches. Everything that happens leads to her getting this position, and no one saw it coming.
>>219992122shoot shit or die trying. white men's morgan freeman
>>219992122it's the defining movie of 2025 alongside Bugonia
>>219992216true and factual
>>219992122Watch from 05:18:40https://rumble.com/v6wn7xc-warstrike-episode-104-joseph-aka-pink-shirt-guy-interview-eddington-discuss.html
>>219992122This guy was so obsessed about beating that spic mayor and owning the libs that he didn't even mind his own wife being seduced and taken away by a cult leader.
>>220002795all i did was post the webm, you retard. and it's obviously saying these guys were hired by the data center people. it's smacking you in the face with it.
>>220000343typical response
>>219992122That if you dislike the vaccine, you're dumb, can't read or write, a cuck, and you will eventually be murdered or paralyzed for life by lefties - again because you dislike the vaccine.That's the message
>>220005782>someone who hasn't seen the movie
>>219993667This part legit made not care at all he died
>>219992122Don't stand up for yourself or you'll end up in bed next to your mother in law while some nurse fucks her brains out
>>219992781>-Silicon Valley techno-libertarianismThey're actually military industrial complex surveillance state fascists. I guess the fact they're super greedy could code as libertarian though.
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?
>>220005847That's exactly what happens in the movie, dipshit. Sorry, I missed the part where he kills Pedro Pascal or whatever his name is. You're right, I forgot to add that if you don't like the vaccine, you're likely a murderous chud with violent tendencies not suitable for public life.The movie was so on the nose about despising the "antivax" crowd, shame it was actually pretty decent.
>>220006107There wasn’t even a vaccine in the context of the movie. Covid hadn’t even hit the town until the one homeless guy, you fucking retard.
>>219992424This. The conflict in the movie was a literal distraction from the real threat, the data center.
>>220006152Mate... You're joking right? Ok so not the vaccine, the COVID scare. Whatever same difference brother the character was painted as one in the same and if you can't extrapolate that information on your own.....
>>219992166Not when I say nigger, but I have noticed that a lot of the kike accusers balk when I imply that Muslims suck dick and are evil.
No one talks about the black guy being really into bitcoin.
>>220003006>Everything that happens leads to her getting this position, and no one saw it coming.and she lays in bed with joaquin's caretaker with him in it too for double insult to injury
>>219992122A24 badly needs to impose editors on its directors
same centrist bullshit>both far sides of the spectrum are all le dumb>the people in the middle who stand for nothing are easily manipulated >fear big corporations while at the same time advertising for them
>>220008475See >>219992781
Based movie
