Dash settling for second place in the race at the end is the triumph of mediocrity the movie rallies against for its entire runtime. I don't know if it's a genius ending or not.
>>220004777it's ambiguous. i respect this movie as a kids movie for not giving obvious answers or hand-holding about character motovations and developments.
I think it would have been a better moral victory if his ending had him coaching or being a pacer
>>220004819why? he's still hamstringing himself for the detriment to himself and the betterment of his lessers
Dash settled for second to avoid upsetting the normies. What's important is that HE knows he's better than them, even if they don't. The reason superheroes were outlawed was because they made normies feel inadequate.
>>220004777The moral was "we know we're special, we don't need external validation to prove that"
>>220004885then win by a hair's breadth
>>220004911What's the difference between second and first in an untermensch competition?
>>220004861he's a fucking super hero, I doubt he gives a shit about winning a silly school race against powerless kids. It's like saying that if you're play-fighting with a puppy and you don't smash its skull on the ground you're hamstringing yourself for your detriment
>>220004960letting the untermensch know they are untermensch.>>220004993>It's like saying that if you're play-fighting with a puppy and you don't smash its skull on the ground you're hamstringing yourself for your detrimentno, you still win, even against a puppy, every dog trainer will tell you that you need to enforce that you are the pack leader.
>>220005056>letting the untermensch know they are untermensch.but they are trying to stay hidden
>>220005127again by a hair's breadth. not triple lapping the other kids
>>220005157That's not letting them know they're untermensch. That's pretending to be the greatest of the untermensch.
>>220004777>Triumph of mediocrity Literally only Bob made that point, not the movie.
>>220005225everyone who isnt 1st is an untermensch.
do you think on date nights Mrs Incredible stretches her clit in to a cock and fucks her husband?asking for a friend
>>220005359No, I do not think that. You need to find better friends.
>>220005359Yes, I do think that. Your friend has a healthy curiosity.
>>220004777I mean does he need to prove what he already knows? That he's faster than a bunch of normal prepubescent kids? I think he just wanted to participate in a way that let him do what he liked to do. Theyll figure out what it looks like as they go.>>220004885They were outlawed due to liability issues for the often often overlooked side effects of superpowered beings throwing their weight around in cities/other people's lives
>>220005275The entire movie is about the family accepting who they are and what they do, and that super heroes are needed for the betterment of society.
>>220004777Dash able to get first place and making it look real would have been a much more impressive ending.
>>220004901This. OP is retatded
>>220005567>>220004993>>220004911>>220004901>>220004885>>220004819>>220004817>>220004777Why participate in a race at all if you’re going to be doing this bullshit should i should I not use my powers bs?
>>220005894Because he's a young boy and doesn't know better. People who are born better than others shouldn't never be allowed to use their abilities, but also shouldn't dominate those who aren't as fortunate. It's a compromise.
>>220004901Purposefully limiting yourself so others will win and view you more positively is definitionally seeking external validation.
>>220005321are you first anon
>>220005894It's fun. The whole family obviously enjoyed the experience. Are you autistic?
>>220006066You kinda don't have a choice when not limiting yourself means you'll get fucking arrested. The point was that Dash is okay with "seeming normal" whereas in the beginning of the movie he wanted to be a showoff. It's called character development.
>>220005894Well the first status quo was "powered people act with absolutely no accountability to anyone affected by their actions", the second status quo was the other end of the false dichotomy "powered people cannot do anything at all", so they're entering an unprecedented third phase where they dont know exactly how to operate, but going back to the first status quo and ignoring what was learned there isnt the way. Like I said, they'll figure it out as they go.
>tv zoomie so emotionally devoid of awareness with how the world around him works/functions that he can't decipher the obvious morality play of a children's movie for literal babies Many such cases
>>220006101And you think the lesson of seem normal at all costs and strive for mediocrity because others around you will fear your full potential isnt a bad message? He probably still couldve won without going full speed if theyre just worried about people finding out theyre superheroes.
>>220006171There needs to be forced media literacy camps for this exact reason.
>>220006204It's actually alarming how media literacy or lack thereof, is not a meme
>>220006199That's not the message retard
>>220006199>seem normal at all costs and strive for mediocrity That wasn't the moral and you know it wasn't. I stated what the moral actually was earlier. If you aren't going to argue in good faith I'm not gonna bother responding.
>>220004777I thought the point was that he was trying to conceal his secret identity. It's like the most basic superhero trope.
>>220006324Well you thought wrong, numbnuts!
>>220006287Then you should be frustrated with the ending too because its got a pretty bad message for dash. The other family members are fine though.
>>220006421You have to be ragebaiting and bored because multiple people are explaining to you that the message isn't "muh mediocrity" it's that you can be comfortable with the person you are. Dash thinks he's being held back throughout the entire fucking film but then when they save the city and they get recognition for it, Dash realize that he IS special and unique and that this dumb shit like a middle school race isn't as important as how he and his family sees him. This is a movie for babys
>>22000625295% of the time it's just seething at daring to disagree with the author's politics
>>220004901But that makes no sense, if you're special and you know you are, and you have some incredible abilities, why not use them?It's like saying: "I'm 6'9" and incredibly fast, but I know I'm special, so whenever I play basketball I'm gonna bend my knees and move slower than anyone else because I don't need outside validation"It's not about that, it's about being good at what you do with your special abilities, goddammit!
>>220004885>supers are better than everyone else >also supers got themselves killed easily by their own capes like retards >and killed by a non-super's giant robots
>>220008276its actually more like participating in a footrace against normal people when you can run faster than the speed of sound. what exactly is the point? its not a challenge for the super. its not a challenge for the normal. its fucking pointless so the answer is you dont do things like that. you dont get to have a normal life when youre super fucking special.
>>220006498Then the ending should've been that he didnt even bother trying out for track and field if he just wanted to show off. Or if it really did mean something to him to compete he could've won the race narrowly without full lapping everyone in a split second. Just a weird way to end your movie in a way that kinda goes against the overall message. It'd be like Violet learning to be herself and be more outgoing only to turn down her crush so another girl had a chance to date him.
>>220008276If you were born as one of those people who can do insane mental math and you went around participating in blackjack tournaments and robbing everyone blind, you'd still be a dickhead
Dash should be in a race with other superheros The fact he's racing kids without special abilities is cheating
>>220008956>the smart guy being in a trivia competition is cheating>the fast guy in a race is cheating>the strong guy in a weight lofting competition is cheatingGuess the moral of the story went over your head.
>>220009005There's levels to competitionThat's why you don't see high school football teams going against NFL teamsRetarded fucking nerd
>>220009005>winning on a technicalityits not real winning if your competitors never have a chance.
>>220009043Dash was a 10 year old racing other 10 year olds you fucking low iq brainlet. >>220009061Superpowers are an absurdist metaphor for reality in this case. In reality, a kid who is just faster than everyone else shouldn't be shunned into never racing just because no one else ever stood a chance. Same way a smart kid shouldn't be coerced into flunking his test.
>>220008902Have you even watched a blackjack tournament in the last 10 years?
>>220009245>Same way a smart kid shouldn't be coerced into flunking his test.smart kids are in different classes from the rest of the dumb kids, again theres levels
>>220008902>if you're good at something you're a dickActual fucking loser mentality.
>>220008276>But that makes no sense, if you're special and you know you are, and you have some incredible abilities, why not use them?you don't have to rub it in and seek validation from normies
>>220008956>competing with someone better than me is unfair!!!!sorry to tell you but some people are just naturally gifted and will always be your superior in skill. thats just how it goes.
>>220004777It means that extraordinary people can't be extraordinary because that'll upset normal people.
>>220009289You don't get put into gifted classes when you force yourself to get straight Bs so the other kids dont feel bad. And when youre in a gifted class youre still competing with people who may still be dumber than you, should you still take it easy on them to not hurt their feelings?Gifted classes are an example of societies acknowledging some people are better than others and should be unrestrained.
>>220008525This.
Dash going against humans without superpowersIs like asking a normal human to go 1v1 on with prime Jordan in basketball game The person who made this thread donest understand the concept of sports or competition
>>220009300Crabs always have to make sure no one leaves the bucket.
>>220009319>you don't have to rub it in and seek validation from normiesMaybe don't run in a race with them then?
>>220008736>if it really did mean something to him to compete he could've won the race narrowly without full lapping everyone in a split second. That's literally the plot of the ending you fucking retard. That's what he did
>>220011518Watch the movie retard, he comes in second.
>>220004777He shouldn’t even be allowed to compete in nonsuper athletics
>>220005894Feels good to win and if Dash plays his cards right(lie) he could easily be a pro athlete. Run marathons or sprint in the Olympics. First white man to win gold in like a century. Etc.
>>220004777I mean, he gets to compete and participate with normal society, but what happens right afterward is him getting to be a hero as well. if you want to decide if its genius, maybe start with looking at the entire ending
Ever notice how Objectivists always think they are one the "exceptional" ones and never one of the mediocre masses. And they are usually fat, ugly, 120 IQ dorks. Curious.
>>220013376Do you think 120 iq is low or do you think intelligence is icky and incel-coded?
>>220013470It's the sweet spot where it's high enough to give you a huge ego because you're supposedly """"better"""" than the midwits but not high enough to make you actually special. A midwit on steroids, if you will.
>>220009300This. Don’t enter card tournaments if you can’t understand them, holy fucking shit.>everyone else has to enable my mathematically illiterate assAbsolutely and unequivocally fucking pathetic.
>>220009759>Dash going against humans without superpowers Is like asking a normal human to go 1v1 on with prime Jordan in basketball gameNah, I’d win. Against either.
>>220013376>and never one of the mediocre masses.there's a wide spectrum of mediocre. its very frustrating being a retard, knowing you're a retard, yet still somehow the smartest person in your work group. everyone wants to be in a meritocracy and its causes mental stress knowing you not only have to do your job but also babysit everyone you work with for the same pay >120 IQ dorks.guess what the average iq is
>>220004777It makes sense because he's got bigger things to worry about than simple track meets. He did almost die, after all.
>>220013376Well I've a 138 iq and I'm not really even an objectivist. I don't think an objectivist has ever gotten pussy. That's logic.
>>220004901but then why he compete in the race
>>220004777Dash just wants to use his powers. He needs an environment where he can do that and actually push himself. Not just running slightly faster than children. He's gonna get bored of track within a week.
The entirety of Toy Story 3 rallies against the entire message of Toy Story 2
>>220013906lots of objectivists got ayn rand's pussy
>>220013980its often that youre forced to do compete when youre a kid. I had to do a dozen races i wasnt interested in
>>220004777I’ll write a better ending than Brad Bird. Family watches Dash win the race an as they walk towards the parking lot they all look at dash and ask if he cheated. He says he swears he didn’t
>Shrek 2/Shark Tale>The IncrediblesDreamWorks and Pixar gave us masterpieces in 2004
Dash running fast but not too fast is a funny idea for a scene. It also shows some character growth as he's trying to learn restrain, compared to the start of the film where he's a little fucking supervillain tormenting his teacher.
>>220017151Can't say the same about Walt Disney Animation Studios tho
>>220005848there's nothing impressive about a super hero winning a competition with non supes. You're just gonna alienate the audience and at worst make them loathe Dash.
Brad Bird did such a good job on The Iron Giant. Easily the best movie by that WB division
>>220018911You can tell Osmosis Jones was done by the Giant crew
>WE’RE SUPPOSED TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE
>>220009245You know Dash literal super powers. Retard. He shouldn’t even be in the race.
>>220009330Never thought I’d see /tv/ in support of Transathletes
>>220014039no it doesn't
>>220005359You know what? Yes. Yes she does.
>>220018479The yodeling scene is kino though.
>>220005848There's no glory in winning a fight in a way lower weight class. Or else trannies winning women's sports would be legit champions, and not what they are sneaky, weird, mediocre creeps.
>>220012893>t. Tranny competing in women's sport.Your boner is showing, "ma'am"
