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Jeyne Poole Edition

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>>220022318
Ramsey's side bitch
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>>220022318
You're big and stupid.
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>>220022896
UUUU
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What does Jalabhar Xho do all day at the Red Keep? Did he really fuck Margaery?
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>>220022318
>>220022318
Jeyne poole has suffered the most out of all the ASOIAF characters
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>>220023039
Marg was a virgin, Cersei is just a crazy mad jelly cunt
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The erotic education of Jeyne Poole would have been a much better spinoff than HotD
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>>220022318
Did she like the pie?
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Taking notes on how to turn women on.
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>>220023626
And how not to
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>>220023341
imagine a young starlet a brunette sydney sweeney, who has a homely face but nice knockers and a cute butt, put in the trials and tribulations, and erotic journey from kings landing to flea bottom up to winterfel
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>>220022318
egg is icsh
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>>220024715
jeor is icsh
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>>220024658
Just go watch Saló, bro.
Thasht what happensh behind the scensh at Littlefinger's establishments.
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....semoc eH
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>>220022318
So, what are Pooles really?
Jeyne's father is Eddard's steward. So they are lowborn? some type of gentry? do they own any land?
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>>220026792
Her dad is basically lowborn with a cushy job. He’s like the household manager for winterfell not personally Ned’s valet or anything like that. They probably don’t own anything. But the job comes with a lot of perks (like Jeyne getting educated alongside sansa). It’s probably not literally hereditary but there is a chance that when Poole dies his son is like an automatic shoe-in for the job (if he has a son).
The other thing is that what Cersei does to Jeyne is just off the wall crazy and cruel. Like if her Dad died at Winterfell the starks would have looked after her and saw her life didn’t change much and probably give her some small occupation in the kitchens or something until she was married. They could have just sent her back to winterfell.
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>>220026635
but jeor is not icsh tho
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>>220027056
jeor IS icsh
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>>220026792
They are what would have become of Jon Snow's descendant's in a generation or two if he stayed at Winterfell.
Scraping and bowing for scraps from their lord's table.
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>>220026792
>So, what are Pooles really?

A minor noble house in the North.

>>220026940
>Her dad is basically lowborn with a cushy job.

No.
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>>220027182
Hereditary service is a cushier gig with better upward mobility than peasantry affords
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>>220023039
Probably just walks around pestering people to give him soldiers so that he can slaughter the political enemies he has back home.
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'Promise me, Ned... Promise me that you will stain your honor to raise my bastard son that I had with the disinherited prince Rhaegar. The man who cheated on his wife to elope with me, a teenage girl, only to get his chest smashed in by Robert, whom I despise for sleeping with other women. No Ned, it's completely different when Rhaegar does it. Promise me...'
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This is literally the kinoest fucking thing ive ever seen . I get goosebumps every time i watch it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWJ30Ye_kvw&pp=ygUMZHVua3Mgc3BlZWNo
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>>220027826
I don't know why people defend R+L=J so hard. It always comes off as retarded given that if Rhaegar wanted he could have just divorced or had his wife killed or some shit and then outed Robert's whoring to Brandon and had them break off the betrothal from there. Also did Lyanna even interact with him before the tourney?
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>>220027826
You think the Kingsguard told Lyanna about Rhaegar's death? Given she was pregnant at the time, a shock like that could have triggered a premature birth.
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>>220022318
What is it with all the bad guys in this series having the most obviously evil sounding names of all time? We got

>Vargo Hoat
>Gregor Clegane
>Amory Lorch
>Chiswyck
>Qyburn
>Pyat Pree
>Cersei Lannister
>Euron Greyjoy

And don't forget

>Biter and Rorge
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>>220028310
> if Rhaegar wanted he could have just divorced or had his wife killed
Rhaegar could have pulled the Targ card and had multiple wives, doubt the faith would have cared. Given he was obsessed with the 3 heads of the dragon prophecy he needed to have another kid which Elia was too weak physically. The guy could have had literally any woman in the kingdom to bear his third head but he had to chose the one that would piss off the most people.
>Also did Lyanna even interact with him before the tourney?
Not directly I don't think, but doubtless she had heard of him since he was the heir to the throne. The way POV characters still talk about Rhaegar his reputation preceded him. Like a rock star meeting a groupie.
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>>220028310
There's nothing to defend. We have confirmation that he's Rhaegar son, to claim anything else is to fight a rearguard cope action.
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>>220028462
It's pretty common in fantasy since the reader is meeting sometimes hundreds of characters, the eviler sounding the name the more memorable it is.
Like would you trust a guy named Mordred? I doubt it.
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>>220028310
Divorce is illegal in Westeros. The faith would never allow it.
>>220028510
No, Rhaegar could not have had another wife. Remember that the faith rebelled when Maegor did it and no Targ has done it since. Rhaegar is essentially the dumbest person to have ever lived.
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>>220028553
>Divorce is illegal in Westeros.
Renly and Tyrells in the first book planned to have Robert divorce Cersei and marry Margaery.
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>>220027826
>whom I despise for sleeping with other women
It disingenuous to act like there isn't a difference between fucking everything with a hole and falling in love with one person outside of your arranged marriage
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>>220028553
>Divorce is illegal in Westeros. The faith would never allow it
>"He’s still in love with the sister, the insipid little dead sixteen-year-old. How long till he decides to
put me aside for some new Lyanna?” - Cersei Lannister, Bran II, AGOT
>"Aerys was learned, in his way, though his interests were largely to do with dusty tomes concerned with ancient prophecy and the higher
mysteries. Wed to Aelinor Penrose, he never showed an interest in getting her with child, and rumor had it that he had even failed to consummate the marriage. His small council, at their wits’ ends, hoped it was simply some dislike
of her that moved him, and thus they urged him to put her aside to take another wife. But he would not hear of it." - The World of Ice & Fire, the Targaryen kings, Aerys I
Bitch please. This is one of the few concrete things we know about westerosi law in contrast to the mountains of useless conjecture on the subject conjured up by navel-gazers.
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>>220028621
A dropped side-plot by George that doesn't make sense. It only makes sense if Renly knew about the incest and planned on getting Cersei replaced or killed, but in Clash Renly accuses Stannis of making up the incest. So Renly genuinely thought he could get Robert to divorce Cersei and go to war with the faith (which Maegor failed to win with dragons).
>>220028635
Rhaegar had two fucking kids with Elia and was a grown man. He then ran off with a teenage girl that was 16. Rhaegar is a genuine piece of shit while Lyanna is a fucking gullible idiot like Sansa. What love could there have been? HE CROWNED ME THE QUEEN OF BEAUTY INSTEAD OF HIS WIFE
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>>220028738
Name a single divorce.
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>>220028773
Your mum and your dad.
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>>220028764
>i-it's in two different books but it doesn't fit my headcanon!
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>>220028553
The issue with Maegor is that he had multiple wives at the same time. He literally got in trouble for not divorcing.
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>>220028854
NAME A SINGLE INSTANCE OF DIVORCE
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>>220028940
Yes so did Rhaegar get divorced? No. So he had multiple wives then, which is illegal making whatever kid a bastard. Doesn't matter anyway since Rhaegar was disinherited.
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>>220026752
Based king
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Very nice to see how Jon became a BETTER MAN for his twink bf
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>>220026752
!on ,on ,oN
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>>220026752
O7
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>>220028773
>o-okay maybe characters talk about how you can set a-aside your w-wife b-but....
Back to the navel crud mines with you.
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>>220029308
Wait, I went back and checked. Tyrion's marriage to Tysha was annulled. But that's technically not divorce. Man, I wish George could fucking make-up his mind instead of leaving everything half-open in-case his "gardening" style of writing hits a snag.
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>>220029219
He's forever in love with Satin
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>>220026752
best poster itt
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>>220028533
>We have confirmation that he's Rhaegar son
From where? The show?
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Good morrow sers
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>>220030634
And here comes the aforementioned cope.
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>>220029240
based
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Why is there a talking weirwood gate in the Night's Watch kitchens? Why does everything about the Night's Watch feel creepy and kinda "off"?
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>>220032421
Long lost space technology used by the NW and Others for baby transfers.

The real reason is that George is a fucking hack constantly making shit up to pad the story.
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>>220022318
Lady Gwin character getting a new actress? I had no major issues with the chosen actress.
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>>220023341
i love her so much bros she’s always so cute even if she’s a godawful actor
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Lollys Stokeworth
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>>220028553
>Divorce is illegal in Westeros. The faith would never allow it.
lmao even fucking Baelor, the most ardent defender of the Faith, got his marriage to his sister annulled
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>>220034208
Annulment is legally distinct from divorce. Baelor was an insane zealot who never consummated his marriage, while Rhaegar had two kids with Elia.
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>>220034159
I would marry her in a heartbeat, castle or no castle
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>Ser Jorah met her outside the shattered gate. He wore a dark green surcoat over his mail. His gauntlets, greaves, and greathelm were dark grey steel. The Dothraki had mocked him for a coward when he donned his armor, but the knight had spit insults right back in their teeth, tempers had flared, longsword had clashed with arakh, and the rider whose taunts had been loudest had been left behind to bleed to death.
Weakest Westerosi vs one of Essos's boogeymen
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>>220034159
>>220034737
Huh, they sure worked hard on making her less attractive. Sadly her actress has a private IG account.
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>>220035248
Is George genuinely retarded? There isn't a single culture on Earth as retarded as that Dothraki.
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>>220022896
brat needed correction.
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>>220028552
What about a cute bratty blond girl with toned abs named Mordred who pretends to hate you but is in LOVE WITH YOU????
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>>220035304
how do i dlete a post that's not the picture i meant to use??
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>>220029219
Satin isn't anywhere near as contemptible as Sam and Jon takes that fat fuck's side the moment he meets him.
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>>220024715
luke is icsh
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>>220027077
*looks at you angrily but also cutely*
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>>220035304
Live icshposter reaction.
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>>220035868
*looks at you angrily but also cutely*
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>>220035248
This is the continent where eunuchs are considered an elite fighting force, no wonder they get terrorized by retards who don't even have armour.
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Senseless misery porn.
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>>220034159
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>>220035937
The fall of the Freehold mindbroke the entire continent.
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>When we get home we'll play with the Kingslanding lego set, would you like that?
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>>220036254
elite bookreader knowledge
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>>220035970
So what did Jon actually teach Robert and Eddard? He's implied to be a political operator and the driving force behind the STAB alliance and yet Ned is a mouth-breathing retard
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>>220036325
How to rule, I assume. If anything Eddard seemed to absorb the lessons much better than Robert. Ned makes mistakes, but he's not unintelligent. He actually does pretty well at times despite being completely out of his element, and he was seen as a serious threat by his enemies. You could argue that Jon messed up worse than Ned ever did by convincing Robert to marry Cersei.
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>>220036325
He was a wily snake who taught them wrong on purpose to strengthen the Vale in relation to the other kingdoms.
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>>220035248
I think every time Gurm writes "longsword" he's actually referring to an arming sword, with any two-hander being a "greatsword."
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>>220036325
Jon was just a puppet of the citadel, fucking idiot failed to prevent Robert from feasting and whoring, while also allowing Tywin and Littlefinger to bankrupt the realm.
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>>220035867
jeor is icsh
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I dun wun eet, Aemond
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>>220028462
>Vargo Hoat
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>>220037450
*stares angrily but also cutely*
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>>220028764
>It only makes sense if Renly knew about the incest and planned on getting Cersei replaced or killed,

Renly didn't need knowledge of the incest to know that the Lannisters were taking over the Iron Throne.
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>>220029370
>Wait, I went back and checked. Tyrion's marriage to Tysha was annulled.

Sure, but Tyrion had no kids with Tysha.
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>>220034159
isnt lollys supposed to have down syndrome?
>>220029219
its amazing that hbo did not include a twink in the og got series
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>>220039932
They didn't think of the crazy cat lady and gay pedo demographics at the time.
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>>220039932
>>220039956
robb and jon and joffrey are twinks
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>>220022318
12 year old Jeyne Poole getting trained into an obedient anal whore through bloody whippings was the hottest part of the books.
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>>220030960
monkeee
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>>220038993
He needs a good reason for Robert to ditch Cersei considering he will piss off Tywin, the faith etc. Why the fuck did Renly want to do it anyway? Just to make his cumslut Loras happy?
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>>220028462
Janos Slynt sounds like such an anime bad guy that I imagined him as one and then was surprised when I realized that he was actually described as an old bald guy.
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>>220040150
i mean actual homosexual twinks
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you guys ever make your own house for ASOIAF?

i'm working on a crownlands house founded not long after aegon's conquest from a handful of dornish nobles that sided with aegon the conqueror and got exiled from dorne.
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>>220028462
I don't get how Gurm comes up with all these awesome names and then we get to Meereen and it's nothing but Kraznyz mo Graznyz and Hizdar mo Liznar bullshit
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>>220040907
Almost like that's intentional.
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>>220028462
>Biter
It's a nickname. His last name is Biterelli.
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>>220040332
>12 year old Jeyne Poole getting trained into an obedient anal whore through bloody whippings was the hottest part of the books.
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>>220036006
Why is this scene so funny?
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>>220039932
>isnt lollys supposed to have down syndrome?
Probably. She's also fat in the books.
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>>220041744
Jaime tells Bronn he'll get him a marriage with a noble of even higher standing than Lollys if he goes on desert adventures with him and he just sends her packing while she's totally oblivious.
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>>220041209
They call him Tony Twochews.
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>>220041083
It definitely acts as fuel for the reader to dislike Dany's enemies even more, as their names suck, most if not all are complete cunts, and they have batshit social customs while acting like Westeros is the uncivilized land of savagery.
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>>220036325
Seems like Ned might not have been as good a lord if not for Jon, remember that Brandon was the firstborn and expected to inherit Winterfell. Ned would have received similar education as his brother but probably not as focused on ruling. Jon probably helped fill in the gaps.
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>>220041845
God I remember reading Clash of Kings for the first time and marveling that only GRRM would write a scene where a hooker complains that a fat mentally retarded woman won't quit crying about being gang-raped.
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>>220040781
Nuncle Tommen ahh house
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>>220042864
Ned's problem is that he has literally no self-preservation instinct. Now, I don't know if this is a character flaw like Robert and his overindulgence or if Jon Arryn beat all the guile out of the boy but I do know that Ned Stark's military mind coupled with just a modicum if guile would have made an absolute beast of a man.
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>>220042906
It's Shae who says it and it's a good hint that she is in fact a cunt and Tyrion shouldn't trust her
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seven years later and 90% of the complaints I hear about the final season are "it's not my headcanon, so writing bad" or "it hurt my feelings, so writing bad". I'm convinced that the complaints about muh pacing and nitpicking over minor continuity errors, while valid criticisms to a degree, are ultimately just smokescreen to obfuscate an ideological or emotional objection to the story the writers wanted to tell
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>>220043330
my only complaint is that she isn't tanned from all the time in Mereen and her hair short
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>>220022318
why was she so scared of Jalabhar Xho?
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>>220043809
Around the blacks, never relax - Aegon I Targaryen, probably.
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>>220043809
She probably didn't know black people existed before seeing him, he must have felt uncanny.
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Legitimately what the fuck is Dany's plan for succession if she wins? She literally has a dead womb thanks to blood magic shenanigans and the other (possibly) living Targaryen has greyscale. I don't see how she thinks things wouldn't immediately collapse upon her death.
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Viserys II was a Lysene mummer.
In this house we ACKNOWLEDGE and RESPECT the claim of house Longwaters.
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Make me Master of War
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>>220022318
TAOOBA!
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Are the shitting and dick shots in Knight of the Seven Kingdoms a sort of "revenge" or "apology" for all the female nudity in Game of Thrones?
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>>220030960
monkey rape
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>>220044430
If anything to me it felt legitimately like they were trying for more "wholesome" crude humor; haha look at this old dude who doesn't care if everyone sees his dick while he pisses, oh look Duncan wants to be a hero but in this setting heroes get the shits just like everyone else. Instead of "now we will see everyone fucking to titillate the high schoolers and wine aunts"
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goddamn it, bros... I miss her
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>>220043924
>She literally has a dead womb thanks to blood magic shenanigans
this probably isn't even true desu just something that lives rent free in her head
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imagine Margaery Tyrell pleasuring your anus with her tongue
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>>220044703
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Why the FUCK did Ned trust Littlefinger so much? All because of a few small favors LF did for him at Cat's request? He decried Renly for offering him swords to take Joffery, then goes to Baelish and asks him to do the same plan but with the Gold Cloaks.
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>>220045108
Because Cat trusted him and Ned is a beta male who would walk off a ledge if his wife told him there was a bridge there.
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>>220043924
At the time her plan was probably having Jon bust inside her a dozen times a day then play it by ear.
Nothings stopping her from revealing Jon's true parentage when she's in power making him her heir.
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>>220045108
he doesn't trust him littlefinger is just his only option at that point, one which he agonizes over
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>>220045108
Ned refuses Renly at the moment Renly offers because he doesn't want to dishonor Robert as he's dying or something. Then later by the time he needs to act against Cersei, Renly has left King's Landing
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>>220044574
I don't know, they got a lot of shit for all the female nudity and rape yet almost no dicks. Seems to me it's like HBO is saying
>no, we're not mysogynistic. See? SEE??
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If Dany were truly the just queen she images herself to be she would let Jorah lick the honey from her hair at least ONCE.
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what happens if the dragons are replaced with dinosaurs?
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>>220041923
No I mean more in the sense, why do I find it funny. I mean I shouldn't its just a normal seen. But the way Jaime is just fucking around in the brush and Bronn spots him and says "Jaime fookin Lanister" always kills me.
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>>220044407
THAT'S TAOOBA!
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>>220043330

Except the writing was bad and got worse with each season.
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>>220043884
>She probably didn't know black people existed before seeing him, he must have felt uncanny.

I was 9 years old when I visited Poland in 1977 with my ex-pat parents and one day while strolling thru the streets of Gdansk, I noticed people were staring in amazement and pointing at something behind us. I turned and saw two Black guys (probably off merchant ship) walking along. Being from metro Detroit this didn't phase me but for the native Poles, it was like they saw Bigfoot.
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I just realized that each of the Dunk & Egg books opens with death.

Book 1: Dunk buries Ser Arlen
Book 2: Dunk and Egg ride past the bodies of two convicts rotting in a crows cage
Book 3: Dunk and Egg leave a town riding past the severed head of a septon who had been preaching against Bloodraven
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>>220035834
season 1 bran is icsh
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>>220040332
For me it's
>Farlen entered limping, struggling to support his daughter Palla. Her dress had been ripped in two; she held it up with a clenched fist and walked as if every step were agony. Septon Chayle rushed to lend a hand, but one of the ironmen knocked him to the floor.
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I feel bad for Visenya.
She desperately wanted Aegon's child, but Aegon only had eyes for Rhaenys.
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>>220050212
>phase
uneducated idiot
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>>220038822
jeor is icsh
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>>220027843
I recall it being pretty good in the novella when I read it all those years ago as well. I kind of wish it was my introduction to Gurm's work as it was for others, but that would've spoiled the surprise of how edgy of a writer he is if I did.
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>>220050129
And these people didn't mind that until their slay queen self insert stopped winning.
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Just one rock?
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>Ramsay is an ugly young man, even when dressed finely. He is big boned and slope shouldered, with a fleshiness indicating he will be fat later in life. Ramsay's skin is pink and blotchy, his nose broad, his hair long and dark and dry.[1][8]Although his mouth is small, Ramsay's lips are wide and meaty, wormy looking, and he smiles a wet-lipped smile.
Imagine if he played book accurate Ramsay
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>>220053792
There really is nothing redeemable about this guy.
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>>220050436
It's an effective method to immediately draw in the audience.

"The small boys came early to the hanging."
Is burnt into my mind even if the rest of the novel is meh.
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>>220054061
he helped Reek remember his name, which was nice of him
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>>phase
>uneducated idiot
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BRAVO GEORGE
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>>220055241
REEEEEEK REEK REEK REEK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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ngl the whole Reek reveal is one of the most well done and shocking moments in the books but mayhaps now that I'm older reading those chapters is sickening and makes me feel gross, what the fuck is grrm's deal?
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icsh bump
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>>220051672
*stares confusingly but also cutely*
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>>220043775
>my only complaint is that she isn't tanned
Dude, she is literally Brown.
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>>220057852
jeor is icsh
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>Patire
>Brayeen
>Damfair
>Melisaaaaaaaaaaand
>irish jaime and tyrion
>chinky voice missandei

how hard was it to ask george for a list of name pronunciations before hitting record and letting that senile old fucker ramble for 200 hours straight?
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>>220040781
I made one that's a cadet branch stemming from Aegon II.
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>>220029240

utterly based
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>>220059422
>OH PETIRE!! MAKE ME ANOTHER BABY SWEET PETIRE!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32F1TTB1W8c
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>>220026752

i kneel
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>>220059422
>>220059921
the audiobooks are so based
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>>220029240
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO END THIS WAY
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Good morrow sers
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>>220050129
>Muh books
George is a hack and feast and Dance suck. Jeyne westering is a non character and wouldn't have worked when Robb is an actual viewpoint character in the show
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>>220060040
good morrow, nuncle
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>Mia Khalifa as Arianne Martell
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>>220060061
>Dance suck
Second that.
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>>220059921
lost
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>>220060154
You ought to hear him narrate the "lord's kiss" sequence.
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fat pink mast
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>>220060266
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>>220043051
>Ned Stark's military mind
no feats
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>>220043051
>won the battle of the bells
>won the battle of the trident
>beat the tyrells at storm's end
Ned really is underrated
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GOT has been over for like 10 years. How the fuck do you weirdos still have a general going
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>>220061435
he doesn't get a lot of screen time being a warrior but he's clearly written as a very competent battle commander. The lesson he tells his boys about how a general's voice needs to be heard in battle has always stuck with me
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>>220061435
>force marching the northern army through the riverlands to catch Jon Connignton by surprise and storm a fortified town
>no feats
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>>220061493
Howland carried all those battles btw
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>>220061646
https://streamable.com/m6no4r
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>>220061762
Truly the Napoleon of the bogs.
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Crannogmen have no experience fighting on solid ground, they have no military acumen there. Howland did fuck all, it was mostly Ned and others.
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>>220055790
Your moral compass is crystallizing. It should make you feel disgusted.
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>>220060114
Not nearly beautiful enough
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>>220061826
Based Blackfish. Love that guy. Love Jaime too
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So how did Howland manage to heem the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy? Poison darts? Magic?
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>>220062213
he warged into them
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>>220062213
homosexual power
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>>220062339
Oh shit that's actually a sick theory. Damn. Howland a real mofucka
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>>220061646
It's still consistently popular on HBOMax. GoTtok has videos uploaded with hundreds of thousands if not millions of views. There are two spinoffs currently airing even if we're in offseason. It's still popular, the "everyone forgot about game of thrones and no one talks about it anymore!" has always been danyfag cope
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uh, bobbybros?
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>>220062213
If so, that would be lone example of a sorcerer using his magic to overcome the prowess of a skilled warrior. Characters pull off some impressive tricks sometimes, but it's not like anyone has ever just casted a fireball.
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>>220062942
I think the warging angle could be real. This high IQ anon mentioned it >>220062558
however don't you still have to control their actions? I doubt Howland knows how to expertly swing a sword lol
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>>220062942
>If so, that would be lone example of a sorcerer using his magic to overcome the prowess of a skilled warrior.
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>>220061735
There's something LOTR or Hobbit-coded about this image. Was it released around 2014 perchance?
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>>220062213
Why do retards get so pissy about Reed just stabbing Dayne in the back? Do you think this is an anime where Goku can't be defeated by lesser beings because his battle power is too high? Fuck off
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>>220043051
He's suffering from PTSD and everyone screw him over.
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>>220043330
>So yeah MLK just up and burned the slaves after becoming the president of the United States and then got taken out but no one cared and his loyal army fucked off
Great story bro.
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>>220063580
>Dany was a good girl she dindu NUFFIN she genuinely just wanted to help people
Daenerys' altruism was always conditional that she was the one in charge. When she was no longer the heir to the Iron Throne she believed that ruling through fear was the only way to secure her claim.
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>>220061493
Randyll Tarly bros, we got mogged by the Northman...
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>>220063630
>When she was no longer the heir to the Iron Throne
When was that? She won the throne pretty decisively as i recall.
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>>220063635
is that why Randy despises Sam? he sees Ned in him?
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>>220028553
>>220034416
Incest was illegal until it wasn't. Power resides where men believe it resides. A High Septon who was personally friends with Rhaegar and believed his bullshit about a divine heroic destiny for his children could be convinced to annul the marriage.

It's insane how in a series about how power is a meme, divine right of kings is a myth and there is no objective reality where it comes to power so many retards int his fandom go "uhhh ackshually that's against the rules, you can't do that : ^ )"
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>>220063813
Jon's claim supersedes hers. Westerosi would always choose one of their own over Daenerys and she is barren with no future to her line. All she had was the dragon, and she chose to rule thru fire and blood.

I won't pretend it wasn't rushed and needed a few more episodes to flesh it out but Danystans just refuse any ending where she isn't the unironic chosen one destined to bring feminism and 21st century neoliberalism to Westeros - see House of the Dragon retconning her into the chosen one lol
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>>220060061
>Jeyne westering is a non character and wouldn't have worked when Robb is an actual viewpoint character in the show

If Robb got a POV, then we wouldn't have gotten the later reveal that Sybell Spicer was playing the Starks against the Lannisters and visa versa and had magicked Robb and Jeyne with a love potion.
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>>220029383
*Ygritt
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>>220063819
>annul the marriage

Rhaegar already had two kids with Elia and that would have made them bastards and the High Septon wouldn't have done that nor would the nobility have put up with that.

>>220063870
>Jon's claim supersedes hers.

Nobody knows Jon Snow is Rhaegar and Lyanna's kid except Howland Reed and there's no way for him to prove it.
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>>220064078
>uhm ackshually you can't do that
Just like how Jaehaerys wasn't allowed to marry Alysanne, right?
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Imagine how uppity women would be today if Daenerys didn’t get slimed by Jon
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>>220062213
Same as the show, snuck up on Dayne and stabbed him after Dayne mistook him for dead
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>>220023341
>>220024658
>>220040332
>>220051145
You people are fucking sick in the head.
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>>220064343
I thought Dayne wasn't there. Isn't that the whole point of the "woe to the usurper" line
it was The White Boar or whatever his name is, that one Martell fella, and a third guy right
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Jaime's greatest feat is jobbing to a fifteen year old btw
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>>220064397
they're just virgins desensitized by the internet. they have no understanding of the real world so they say retarded shit online. most of them will probably never come to realize how fucking stunted they are because they are not capable of real growth. it's hard to blame them really. genetics play a role but environment is also fundamental. no one asks to be born an absolute and total chud
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>>220063819
Why annul the marriage instead of just letting Rhaegar take multiple wives? The latter has precedents, annulling a consummated marriage hasn't.
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>>220064414
Dayne wasn't at the Trident because he was at the Tower of Joy, "woe to the usurper" line was him boasting that if he were there Robert's hammer would have never reached Rhaegar.
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>>220064479
ohh right. damn what a great line
I fucking love George bros. one of the greatest storytellers of all time
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>>220044703
Who is the Best ASOIAF female character at giving rimjobs?
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>>220064511
Ros
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>>220064414
It was Ned Stark and Howland Reed + 5 other redshirt Northerners fought Ser Arthur Dayne, Lord Commander Gerold Hightower, and Ser Oswell Whent at the Tower of Joy. Whent was cut from the show

Prince Llewyn Martell was slain on the Trident alongside Ser Jonothor Darry.
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>>220064438
Because Rhaegar believed that his son with Lyanna would be the Prince That was Promised and wanted him to be heir, he wanted his kids with Elia to be disinherited or otherwise not be competition to the throne.

This isn't that complicated, you just refuse to accept it
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>>220064511
Sylva Santagar
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>>220064552
damn. RIP. thank you for the correction
what a bunch of legends. the ASOS chapter where Jaime peruses The White Book is one of the most beautiful pivots in a character arc that I've ever read. everything changes for him as he soaks in what it means to be a knight, to wear the pure white cloak
I'm due for a reread, anons. I'm definitely going to once Winds is announced
>inb4 >implying Winds will come out
have faith bros
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>>220064479
>>220064552
These three ""legendary"" kingsguards lost to ned + six unremarkable fighters kek, zero guarantee that they would make much difference on the trident.
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>>220064109
>Just like how Jaehaerys wasn't allowed to marry Alysanne, right?

Jaehaerys had his first marriage annulled making his kids bastards? Yeah, I didn't think so.

England flipped to Protestant because Henry VIII couldn't get the Pope to annul his first marriage with Catherine of Aragon despite their two month old son dying, leaving no male heir to the kingdom.

But the High Sparrow is just going to shrug and let Rhaegar dump his wife and kids for some younger pussy?
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>>220064613
The Faith is not the Church lol
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>>220048547
What kind?
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>>220064479
>if I was there Robert would totally be dead dude
>gets assraped by 5 foot tall frogman
Fart-durr Ayne(us), the fraud of the malding
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>>220064613
>It wouldn't happen because I said so
Compelling argument
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>>220063870
>Jon's claim supersedes hers. Westerosi would always choose one of their own
Literally who fucking cares? And who would challenge her claim and her hordes of unsullied and Dothraki and a literal fucking dragon? The beaten bloodied GAPED lords of Westeros who couldn't even deal with Lannister and Greyjoy scum? Da Norf?
>but Danystans just refuse any ending where she isn't the unironic chosen one destined to bring feminism and 21st century neoliberalism to Westeros
I'm no Danystan and i'd be fine with the ending if Tyrion and Jon got turbokilled by cockless niggas for what they've done and Gendry sat the Iron Throne and Sansa got double-teamed by Pod and Brienne.
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>>220064609
>>220064674
are we really disrespecting some of the greatest knights to ever live now?
for shame, anons. for shame.
these men embodied valor and loyalty. they'd lay their lives down for you if the cause was just. be better.
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>>220064078
Rhaegar/Lyanna has a lot of Lancelot/Guinevere parallels. My personal headcanon is that there's proof of Jon's identy hidden in the Winterfell crypts
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>>220064684
>And who would challenge her claim and her hordes of unsullied and Dothraki
The Unsullied and the Dothraki were depleted by the Long Night. This is all that was left of the forces personally loyal to Daenerys when all was said and done, despite all the memeing about "respawning" from wounded Danystans nitpicking to obfuscate that their feefees were hurt

>and a literal fucking dragon?
Yes, the dragon was important, that's why Daenerys laid down fire and fury to pre-empt any potential rebellion.
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>>220064740
>the memeing about "respawning" from wounded Danystans nitpicking to obfuscate that their feefees were hurt
Holy schizo babble.
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>>220064642
>The Faith is not the Church lol

Gurm is a hippy baby boomer and it's blatantly obvious that the Faith is an analog for the Catholic Church.

>>220064677
>Compelling argument

Thanks, man.

>>220064718
>My personal headcanon is that there's proof of Jon's identy hidden in the Winterfell crypts

What proof could there be? Any documentation would be dismissed as a forgeries.
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>>220064703
>for shame, anons. for shame.
>these men embodied valor and loyalty. they'd lay their lives down for you if the cause was just. be better.
fast ticket to an early grave
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>>220064511
Jeyne Poole has been trained in the art (with bloody whippings).
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>>220064900
>Gurm is a hippy baby boomer and it's blatantly obvious that the Faith is an analog for the Catholic Church.
And Westeros is supposed to be le dark ages medieval europe, but is nothing like it. What is your point?
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>>220064873
Most s8 criticism is built around buzzwords, catchphrases, and memeing about taking everything DnD has ever said in the most bad-faith manner possible.
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Jeyne Pool is built for BDC (Big Dog Cock)
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>>220064900
>What proof could there be? Any documentation would be dismissed as a forgeries.
>because I said so

There is enough evidence for the people who don't want Daenerys to rule (most everyone) to select Jon as an alternative. It's enough for Daenerys to believe it, which is all that the story requires
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Serious question, anons:
What is the first passage that comes to mind that heavily moved you? Maybe made your heart beat a little quicker, or shocked you, or made you smile and shed a joyful tear?

I could name probably a hundred but one that always gets me is
>I dreamed that I was old.
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>>220027843
I just watched this episode last night and it makes me scared because while I loved the scene, It seems like its the highest peak of the show
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>>220064900
>What proof could there be?
Dunno. We'll see when the book comes out.
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>>220027843
>ARE THERE NO TRUE KNIGHTS AMONG YOU?!
Perfectly delivered. Bravo.
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>>220064912
he cute i want to fugg him please let me fugg him please
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>>220043330
I'm fine with Dany going Targ but it needed 2 more seasons of build up
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>>220064977
did that line move you because you're an old boomer?
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>>220064979
>while I loved the scene, It seems like its the highest peak of the show
It's second place only to "Get up Ser"
https://youtu.be/pHl6iYHzP7E
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>>220065050
Great, don't say more. I'm watching this episode tonight
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>>220065064
Don't tell me what to do
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>>220065050
Anime shit
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>>220064703
>if the cause was just
Yeah you can always count on these great knights to do 15 backflips and use 25 sword styles in a minute to make sure that no one could interrupt the king while he's burning innocents and abusing his wife in bed
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>>220065040
I just thought it was such a raw expression of confusion/dementia and carried the weight of an enormous life and expressed Aemon's love for his brother.
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>>220065081
it's not abuse if you're married
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>>220065079
All of GOT is anime shit.
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>>220064569
>disinherited
By turning them into bastards after his marriage was annulled? Not only that this isn't possible, if Rhaegar cared about legitimacy that much then he'd want three trueborn children to mount the "three heads" of the dragon.
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>>220065181
She's supposed to be underage, I hate when they draw her like an adult woman
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>>220065081
well that's the whole point of Jaime's and Sandor's and even Brienne's disillusionment, among others. there are two sides to the coin. guys like Hightower were definitely conflicted
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>>220065104
You're confusing abuse with martial rape. The latter isn't a thing in westeros but the former definitely is and it bothered jaime so much that the white cuck had to pull him aside and remind him of his duty to protect and serve the king always.
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>>220065081
I hate Barristan Selmy so much and I was so satisfied to see him die in the show. That the fanbase unironically holds him up as some pinnacle of knighthood is embarrassing
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>>220065241
>and it bothered jaime so much that the white cuck had to pull him aside and remind him of his duty to protect and serve the king always
You're conflating two events. Jonothor Darry told him that they shouldn't protect the queen, Hightower pulled him aside after Rickard and Brandon were killed
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>>220063819
lol, what an absolute retard. yeah, just throw your dornish wife to the trash bin, that won't piss off the martells at all
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>>220065309
you're embarrassing. i hate you.
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>>220065407
1. Rhaegar IS kind of a retard who believes in the heroic destiny of his line
2. House Martell is the weakest Great House by a mile and Doran is a weak-willed retard who would only send a strongly worded raven to King's Landing. They still fought for Rhaegar even though he stepped out on Elia lol
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>>220065440
Yeah, the heroic old man knight who served a rapist madman king WITH HONOR, then served his usurper, and was all too willing to serve another usurper bastard madman until he got kicked out, then he ran off to serve the only claimant monarch who would take him lol
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>>220065479
barrybros, not like this...
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>>220064941
>And Westeros is supposed to be le dark ages medieval europe, but is nothing like it.
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what the fuck are you faggots doing here? it's the weekend. why aren't you out with your (boy/girl)friend(s)?
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>>220065453
he took a paramour, it's not that big a deal. actually divorcing her would be. the targs managed to unite half the realm against them and alienated the lannisters for no reason, losing one of the two great houses that actually supported them is probably a bad idea
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>>220065453
>They still fought for Rhaegar even though he stepped out on Elia
Because Elia and her children were hostages.
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>>220065617
I, having not long back to my apartment after attending a bbq, entered this thread 5 minutes or so ago to see what anons are shitposting or autistically discussing about after dunk ended. What are you up?
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>>220064976
>There is enough evidence

Except there is no evidence. Howland Reed is the only one who knows and why would anybody believe some redneck swamp dweller?
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>>220065479
>y-your grace shan't send assassins after daenerys, she's only 13!
>fuck you I'll do whatever I want to secure my throne
>o-okay
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>>220064511
Lyanna, it is how she seduced Rhaegar from Elia's own high skill level.
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>>220043924
she gets a miscarriage by the end of adwd and following her rule of three she will get pregnant again by jon and the child will likely live
btw this was the original script for s8 before the switched for the mad queen arc
it's funny how jon literally saying in s7 "you are retard for believing this prophecy shit, dany I'll nut inside and get you pregnant ma queen" just went nowhere at end
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>>220065781
i don't have friends irl. /tv/ is all i have.
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>>220064976
>>220065795
When jon claims rhaegal people will finally put two and two together why ned returned from dorne with an infant and figure out his parentage. But there's no chance that there's any proof of him being anything but a bastard so he has zero claim to the throne unless dany (lol) unwitting legitimized him prior.
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>>220065103
My fuarking heroes.
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>>220066007
>fuarking
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>>220065103
I wonder how the hightowers feel about baelor the blessed taking the center of the faith away from oldtown
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the big question is: will jon and dany find out they're related before or only after they're already fucking ? gonna be kinda messed up if dany learns about it first and hides it from jon while keeping having sex with him, it would give jon a genuine reason to be creeped out by her when he finds out
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>>220066031
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/fvaaaaaaaaaark/
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>>220065962
people just forget robb very likely legitimized him before dying huh ?
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>>220066087
In a will only a few people know. And only two regions acknowledged robb as king.
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>>220023039
>Give me a million soldiers please
>Oh haha you won't? Guess I'll just hang around drinking and stuff here then I'll ask you next year. No worries though, I'm not in a rush.
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>>220064652
idk any creature from the hellcreek would do i guess
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>>220065962
>When jon claims rhaegal

If Jon Snow claims a dragon, it doesn't matter who his parents were.
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How are the Iron Bank even going to help Stannis at this point? He's camped outside Winterfell in a massive blizzard, dozens of men freezing or starving to death every night. Do they think a loan is going to help him?
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>>220066179
He dunwunit so he wont press his claim
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>>220066194
Mercenaries spam, these paid armies will feed Stannis and his men for days to come.
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>>220066624
But Nestoris still needs to go back to Braavos, and then assuming he can do the hiring for him, gather the mercs, sail them across the narrow sea, then march across the North in time before any battle happens, they all starve/freeze to death, or some kind of mutiny.
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>>220066805
Then they support the next claimant. Did you forget the reason (((they))) are interested in "helping" Stannis in the first place?
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>>220065479
BYSTANDER SELMY
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>>220067054
Sounds like it wouldn't be worth working out the loan at that point then. Unless they just hedge their bets on everyone they can, and hoping if he dies it's before he can actually spend any money they gave him.
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>>220067321
>Unless they just hedge their bets on everyone they can,
This is LITERALLY what (((they))) do
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is dany's pussy still tight for jon ?
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>>220068145
Jon is for pegging only.
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>>220068145
>>220068281
jon is for robb and bran only
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>>220065617
But baby, you are my boyfriend!
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the only reason they haven't got a group of writers to finish it yet is because they know martin is a bitch and will start seething about corporation"stealing" his workd and saying it's not his canon so they're just waiting for him to die
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>>220068495
<3 *hug*
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At this point, I think there’s something more insidious going on, something we can’t even begin to imagine. Corpo fuckery beyond our imagination.
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>>220025878
Visenya wasn't that much into him.
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>>220068607
It will be funny asf if they just randomly announce he has finished both winds and ados
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>>220068607
>He finishes the books.
>The story wraps up perfectly, but the ASOIAF world gets irreparably wrecked in a way that makes any sequel or spin-off nearly impossible.
>All the important characters are dead.
>All the key locations are gone.
>The suits hate it.
>“No, you fat fuck! we need Jon and Tyrion alive for the 42384823 planned spinoffs!"
>"You wouldn't kill Bugs Bunny right Martin?"
>He refuses to change it.
>The books end up unfinished forever due to legal battles.
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Seconding "Egg, I dreamed that I was old." and you put it quite nicely as to why.



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