>Gobekli Tepe>Gunung Padang>Bimini Road>Olmec Heads>Younger Dry Ass>Spring Equinox>True North>Ayahuasca>Big Archeology>Flint DibbleWow. Thank you Graham Hancock for your incredible """"""insights""""""
>finally look up the "great" Gobekli Tepe >it's just a pile of rocks and some pillarsFucking lol what kind of twerp makes this his whole personality??
>>220028747Threat to democracy!
DIBBLE raped him in 2024 on JRE btw
>>220028785That Tepe doesn't look very Gobekli
>>220028747Big academia is here in this thread right now trying to suppress the truth.We haven't even begun to excavate the entire sahara yet
>>220028785>he can't see the Atlantean influence or the stones clearly levitated via acoustic vibrationshylic
>>220029941An impressive feat for someone lacking both a spine and testicles.
>>220029941Dibble lives in his fathers shadow. He only is a plant archeologist. what a retard. at least dig up something cool.
>>220028785What great monuments have (you) built?
>>220028747>>Gunung PadangAnyone else watch that sode and get the vibe the SEAmonkies were hiding their smirks? Like they cynically were talking it up for them future tourist shekels Bimini Road and the Japan one looked naturally occurring to me too
>>220031006>Wall street apesIsn’t that a pump and dump r/wallstreetbets-type account?
>the same pseudo intellectual retard is still spamming thisKys
>>220028747Can't quibble with the dibble
>>220028747His main problem seems to be that people don't instantly jump into his conclusions with little or no evidence. I do find his ideas interesting, but the man himself is a bit tedious.
>>220031006Is this Dibble faggot under the impression that Twitter wasn't just "engagement bait" before Elon? If he wants more parity, he should convince all the blue sky whiners who left to come back. As it is though, Twitter is infinitely better than it was before Elon.Also, I don't have any faith in that graphic.
>>220031369He's just doing the typical leftoid>heh, why are YOU so political?after spending literally two decades gleefully cheering the cancellation of anyone a hairs breadth to the right of his own position.
>>220031006Now do Reddit, or literally any social media site, Mr Dibble. It's all the same political rage bait. It's not even remotely limited to Twitter. I thought this guy was supposed to be intelligent.
>>220031317wtf
>>220028747You really like making this thread huh?
>>220030913Kek
>>220031402>I thought this guy was supposed to be intelligentJust because he's unkempt and dresses like the headmod for r/atheism doesnt mean he's intelligent.
>>220033604I think he gives the subject matter a bad name. I think the atlantis myth was inspired by some now underwater ice age civilization wiped out by sea level rising but Hancock makes too many illogical leaps and puts to much stock in ayahuasca hallucinations
>>220028785Each of those pillars is 3+ m high and weighs several tons. That picture shows about 10% of Gobleki tepe. In the area they found dozens mounds more. So the whole hill is covered by those structures. The structures are evidence that they knew astronomy, math, engineering, calendar.Archeologists have told us that hunter-gatherers could not build such structures, or know math, cause they spent all of their time hunting and gathering. And it was only once we had agriculture that people had the free time to learn math and engineering.Gobleki Tepe completely destroys that idea and instead of coming up with new theories, the archeologists are like "Hunter gatherers could do math, build structures and do all the things we said they couldn't, but our theory is still right!!"There is an inconvenient conclusion to Hancock's research. There is a city, Jericho, in a country in the Middle East and the scholars from this country claim civilization started/was born in Jericho, the first city. Jericho has been dated to around 5000-6000BC. But Gobleki Tepe has been dated to 11000BC.So you see, we have to pretend like Gobleki Tepe is insignificant AND TOTALLY NOT A CITY OR EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND OF CIVILIZATION, because the first city was Jericho and that fact must not be challenged.Now you know why they call Hancock a Nazi and an anti-semite.
>>220033639I dont care about atlantis or hyperborea or gobbledy teke, I just see one man who presents himself adequately and one "man" who in all his life hasnt learned how to shave or dress properly or execute a single pushup.Yes I know Im superficial.
>>220033677he's better looking than your kind
>>220033737>if you care about how you look you're an evil pro israel chud epic selfown, post your wrists
>>220033664>Gobleki Tepe completely destroys that idea and instead of coming up with new theories, the archeologists are like "Hunter gatherers could do math, build structures and do all the things we said they couldn't, but our theory is still right!!"It most likely worked as a sort of medieval monastery or ancient temples. 99% of people lived a hunter-gatherer lifestyle with select few being the priestly/shaman class, living of donations/tithes. Obviously they'd have time to come up with astronomy, math, rudimentary construction methods, etc.
>>220033809>It most likely worked as a sort of medieval monastery or ancient temples.But hunter gatherers didn't have those things, because they spent all their time on search for sustenance. We get priests and organized religion and temples AFTER agriculture and AFTER hunter-gatherers.>Obviously they'd have time to come up with astronomy, math, rudimentary construction methods, etc.But not according to current, accepted theory on pre-ancient history. Congrats, you're a crazy schizo like Hancock.
>>220033664When the people whose life's work will be proven wrong have died of old age eventually goblet tepe will be recognized for what it is. This tends to be how the archaeology sphere works.
>>220033893Fucking autocorrect strikes again.
>>220033893>When the people whose life's work will be proven wrong have died of old age eventually goblet tepe will be recognized for what it is.Except the mainstream archeologists have declared that there is nothing to learn from the Tepes and they're not going to excavate any more. Not even joking.
>Narrator: But it did exist. It existed notoriously and anti-semitically.
>>220031317Showing up to a Joe Rogan interview while weevmaxxing his attire was certainly a bold move by Mr Dribble.
>>220028747>ends your entire career with one youtube videonothing personal old man
>>220034134Only person who needs a map to find his eyes.
>>220034048So they're basically admitting that it proves all their shit wrong. What do they have to gain by covering it up?
>>220028785You’re a girl if you think this doesn’t look cool.
Confirmation bias:The search for and use of information to support an individual’s hypotheses, while excluding or disregarding any information that contradicts said hypotheses.
>>220034187>What do they have to gain by covering it up?They can avoid admitting they were wrong. In science and academia being right is everything, and being wrong is death. Imagine if you're some 60yo historian who has built a career and life on the idea that the first civilization was from 6000BC, you have book deals, tenure, praise... then all of a sudden, someone proves your life's work wrong. Your whole academic life, a lie. All of those conferences, studies, debates, classes... all were incorrect and therefore bullshit. Would you so willingly jump on the new idea? I don't think so.
>>220034187Soft sciences are especially susceptible to group think, face saving, and elder worship. Basically take all the worst cultural parts of organized religion and Chinese social dynamics, combine all the worst parts of both, and boom, you have modern western academia culture.
>>220034266That makes sense which is why I said eventually when those people are dead the sphere will reevaluate the site. I also think they would want to cover up something like a technology transfer from an ice age civilization because that raise so many more questions.
>>220034329When I was in high school I wanted to become a history major in university. I was talked out of it by my ancient history teacher. Beyond few job opportunities this is probably why he said that.
>>220028747>if "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" was a personHis fans are insane, lol.
>>220034330>That makes sense which is why I said eventually when those people are dead the sphere will reevaluate the site.You'd think so. But these archeologists and historians are clever and have thought about it. The only people who get access to these sites are only "real archeologists", those part of the club. The social sciences in academia are about professors weeding out the undesireables and identifying people who are going to continue their legacy. The hypothetical 60yo professor has had many PhD students (who he picked), who got a PhD by helping him or doing something adjacent to his work. This way the professor ensures that the next generation's academic life is on the line.This is possible in history, archeology and other social sciences. In STEM it is harder because if someone does an experiment and shows results, it is very difficult to ignore them, but it still happens!If you want to know how proud these scientists are, just look up the details about the guy who came up with Germ Theory. He said surgeons are actually infecting their patients with the germs on their hands and that hands should be washed before performing surgery. The surgeons said that that is preposterous! The guy was crazy! He got ridiculed, demoted, made fun of and laughed at. The surgeons not only avoided washing their hands, they MADE THEM MORE DIRTY BEFORE SURGERY AND MADE SURE THEY WERE UNCLEAN out of spite. Of course many patients died before medical science came around to the idea that germs exist.
>>220034513I had heard that about the germ theory guy. Can't believe they're still behaving the same way after so long.
>>220034549Humans are still humans, even after so long.
>>220034513Your one example of this happening in real life is from the 1800s.>"They don't let people they don't approve of have access."Yeah, I bet not, for the same reason that you don't have access to a surgery room in a hospital if you're not a surgeon, they're afraid you'll fuck it up by being a bumbling idiot. That's why you have to go to school and prove you're not one if you want to interact with old fragile shit.
>>220035077>That's why you have to go to schoolAnd they control who gets to pass, who fails and who gets an offer to be a TA, masters, PhD programs. Or do you actually believe academics would choose people who disagree with them to push along?
>>220035197This story is as old as Gobekli Tepe itself. Plato wrote about panels of "experts" all citing eachother as their proof in a big circle jerk to feign legitimacy.
>>220035197You just invented a conspiracy in your mind whose only evidence is that it sort of happened one time in the 1880s that allows you to disregard anything said by an educated person and listen instead to youtube charlatans who have obvious monetary motives to lie.Like, just talking about Graham Hancock in particular for a moment, this a man who found a sort of straight line of rocks underwater in the Caribbean, then said "this must be a surviving road used for trade from Atlantis," and when he was told that rocks can sometimes form straight lines in nature, he just ignored it. This is a man who claims that there was a global super civiliation 13000 years ago that taught everything to everyone else, yet they left no genetic markers in the natives (meaning they never had children with the people they visited). He clearly is full of shit. He makes interesting ideas that any educated person can shut down in five seconds, but if you devote yourself to "Well maybe the educated people are lying to me," then yeah, I guess everything he says might be true.
>>220028747Bimmy Road?
>>220031152I once took a shit that stretched beyond the toilet seat
>>220028747I know they must have been running out of material for Nazi Hitler documentaries after Pets of the SS aired but the literal schizo pseud stuff is total mierda.
>>220033664You have to do some crazy mental gymnastics to think this way. I pity you.
>>220035353hancock is a high tier con-man who figured out long ago how which buttons to push to convince retards like in this threat. the term 'big archeology' alone should open the eyes of anyone who knows someone working in this field. pic related.
>>220035353>you devote yourself to "Well maybe the educated people are lying to me,"Your outlook of "Educated people would never lie to me for personal gain!" is just as retarded.
>>220035643the smithsonian is "big archaeology", they answer to the federal government
>>220035543>I pity you.I don't think about you at all.
>never will live up to his fathers legacy>cries about how private investors and donors fund Graham Handcock>people don't want to donate to Flint Dibble's research>constantly cries daddy government for gibs to further his research as well>meanwhile Graham gets tens of millions because people want to know what's under those pyramids.I think we will see a day where people who are not college educated archeologists help make greater discoveries than crybaby faggots that seethe he gets funding. that's all its really about at the end of the day. faggot flint thinks people should fund his research and Graham is a quack. he infinitely seethes because people like netflix will give him publicity and not his fucking seed research.
>>220035780as long as the egyptian government stops excavation and we have no answers as to why pyramids are at all four corners of the earth (or how some of them were even built), people will question the mainstream narrative
its honestly more interesting than what flint dibble wants. no really who gives a shit about seed archeology when Egyptian Archeology might get real interesting soon. Flint is just a Nepo baby that has been grandfathered into the field of work, and he thinks of Graham as a rule breaker for not practicing etiquette of going to college to get a degree to become an archeologist like he did. so many random ass people, and people who are smart but not college educated have made tons of discoveries. its just a bullshit crybaby game he wants to play>wah i am a real archeologist and you have to listen to memeanwhile the world keeps spinning and private funders are going to literally toss money at graham over flint for this reason. literally seed research has to be like 27th priority coolest thing to be an archeologist for. thats what actually gets billionairs to cough up a couple hundred thousand. even for just a promise that there might be a 2nd sphinx or something.
>>220035843You've been told why there are pyramids everywhere. You just don't want to accept "pyramids are the easiest big thing to build" as an explanation because it's less interesting than "an ancient super civilization of Atlantean aliens taught civilization to everyone on Earth, and built Stonehenge, and then disappeared."
>>220035843Don't even get me started on the pyramids.>Pyramids are tombs>So where are the corpses?>They were looted by graverobbers and sold on the dead body market!>But they only first reached the main chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza in 820AD and it was empty...>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID NAZI!!!!
>>220036033>You've been told why there are pyramids everywhereand all of those mundane explanations make no sense. how can civilizations that didn't even discover the wheel know that the pyramid is easiest to build?
>>220036090Dare I ask what you think the pyramids were for, if not tombs?
>>220036033>pyramids are the easiest big thing to buildThis fucking canard again. We couldn't build the Great Pyramid of Giza today. We could build something similar, but to hit all the hallmarks and accomplish everything the builders of GPG accomplished -- no chance.It's ignorant fools like you who perpetuate the lie>pyramids were just a pile of rocks hurr durrGo read about the Great Pyramid of Giza and the feats involving it.
>>220036120I have no idea.
>>220030913lmao
>>220036090im sure you have already seen the YouTube channel "History For Granite". but he is an egyptian archeologist that has gone into great detail about how he believes that the Pyramids were not for one time burials, but where places that were for celebrations, and ceremonies. which makes tons more sense because why would you put so much work into something and for it to just be a one and done thing. its like building a skyskraper just so you could turn on the electricity on and run all the machines. then immediately turn it off.
>>220036167the great pyramid likely took a century or more at the level of technology the egyptians had, that is far too difficult for a big rock for celebrating birthday parties
>>220036138Why do you think we can't rebuild the Great Pyramid of Giza, other than political/cost concerns? I see no reason why it couldn't be done, other than that no one wants to because it would be a big waste of time and money. Although, even if you were correct about that for some reason, that still doesn't change how pyramids are the easiest big thing to build.
>white people or east asians build something cool>silence>nonwhites build something cool>"Which aliens helped them with that!?"
>>220036120Storing excess sand.
>>22003619830 years actually. and like which there is like 2 million stone pieces. which would be 200 per day.
>>220036167>which makes tons more sense because why would you put so much work into something and for it to just be a one and done thing.It also doesn't make sense that they were tombs for pharaohs, who they wanted to protect against looters. If you don't want something burgled, you don't put it in an above-ground structure that can be seen for miles around. You hide it in some cave, far away from everyone... in like a hidden valley or something.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Kings>>220036198>the great pyramid likely took a century or more at the level of technology the egyptians had,LMAO @ this ancient aliens guy! The great pyramid of Giza was built in 26 years. That is how long Khufu reigned, so it must have been built in 26 years because it was his tomb (this is what mainstream archeologists actually believe).
>>220036260not interested. if you are interested in what im talking about you can look at my link thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAQSrlG9WQ
>>220036206Its not silence. Its "how can africans take credit for what white and east asian people built". One of the reasons you can't trust the main stream government funded researchers.
>>220036260It is extremely easy to explain why you would build an above-ground tomb for a pharaoh."I'm a god-king, I'm super important. Everyone needs to see and remember me and worship me as a god. No one will dare to raid my tomb because they know I'm a god who will punish them, and also my son will be the new pharaoh and also punish them."Doesn't mean they're correct, but it's very easy to explain.
>>220036033We can’t even move a fucking brick nowadays.
>>220033664Wow, 3+m high. It would take almost a half a dozen of people to dislodge and roll each of them. A task beyond any belief.
>>220036033>"pyramids are the easiest big thing to build"LMAO
>>220036260i mean if you watch the video he goes over that the block that was meant to seal the chamber was actually designed to be open and closed over and over again. he is well researched. probably because its his job to be. he also goes over much about how the egyptian government pushes the narrative that they were just a burial site and nothing else. which is like i said. would be like building a skyscraper. powering it on, then shutting it off and never using it again. a total waste of time. In fact i would recommend watching all of his work because his channel is probably the best Egyptologist channel on Youtube. even if he is a lispy faggot. best is best.
>>220036205>Why do you think we can't rebuild the Great Pyramid of Giza, other than political/cost concerns?Techical concerns. They asked civil engineers responsible for massive projects. They even asked the dude who is the architect of the largest human construction project in modern history and he said he couldn't do it.While the size of the GPG is impressive, that is not the most impressive thing about it.>It is aligned to geographic (true) north to 5°. When they built the French academy of sciences in the 18th century, they only managed to align it to true north to about 15°>The "king's chamber" is built from massive granite blocks, each one weighing several tons. The room is a perfect golden ratio recatangle. The stones are chiseled and fit together with such precision that you cannot insert a piece of paper between the stones.>The shafts (which were closed at the surface of the pyramid), are a perfect straight line and they hold the angle all the way through the pyramid. The angles aren't random, they are chosen so that the shaft takes the shortest possible distance from the chamber to the side of the pyramid. On one side the shaft is offset, and the angle is adjusted accordingly so that it still takes the shortest path.>The GPG doesn't have four sides, it has eight. It has eight perfect sides.>The lengths of the sidea of the base of the pyramid are equal to each other to a precision less than half an inch. Less than half an inch error on some 250m of length, that would be an accomplishment today, let alone 5000 years ago.>The chambers of the GPG are all π/2, π/4, 2π/3, etc. ratios of the pyramids height.>There is an underground chamber below the pyramid, it is also some π fraction of the height.>The pyramid sits on a perfectly flat granite base, so that had to be built before the pyramid.>athe GPG pyramidion, the little capstone on the top of the GPG is EXACTLY 1m tall.All of this in under 27 years, using only ropes and copper chisels.
>>220036459Modern archeologists deny that Egyptians knew Pi. Historians tell us that it was discovered by the Greeks thousands of years later.
>>220033893This is what happened/happens in Roman history. t. studied Roman history in undergrad
>>220036414It's just stacking rocks on top of each other, you tard. And it you ever get bored of how it looks and want to make it bigger and cooler you can just dump more rocks on top of it.>>220036109Because they have working brains and eyes to see what mountains look like.
>>220036249200 multi ton stones. egyptians didn't make it. they have yet to find the mass graves of workers doing that sort of work in desert conditions either iirc
>>220036631For your sake I hope you're trolling and not genuinely this completely retarded
>>220036459>The GPG doesn't have four sides, it has eight.
>>220036721Because of my insane belief that ancient people had the capacity to observe the world around them and think without depending on chimerical super civilizations?
>>220036721probably a bot
>>220036459>The stones are chiseled and fit together with such precision that you cannot insert a piece of paper between the stones.Can you normally fit a piece of paper between stones? If you could, the building would be very vulnerable to the elements and constantly light during the day. This is a nonsensical statement.
>>220036777they didn't have wheels dumb nigga, how they gonna build big pyramids without knowing about wheels dumb nigga
>>220036459reminder that when they built the pyramid at Giza, they already had 500+ years worth of experience with building those things. it wasnt the first, they had generations of architects, masons, builders and artists spending their lives thinking and working on these things.when the pharaoh is a literal god in your culture you will try to move heaven and earth to make his tomb absolutely perfect.and if you got half a million people working for 30 years, anything becomes possible.by pretending the pyramids are some sci-fi magic or built by ancient aliens you diminish people's ability to build wonders when they put their brains and muscles to a task.it is an impressive feat and testament to the ingenuity of early people and their ability to plan and cooperate, dont take this way from them because you think it was "too hard" for them, they fucking did it.
>>220036777because clearly pyramids arent just stacking rocks on top of each other you mongGo on, build a 30 cm high pyramid and see how it looks jesus christ
>>220036801Do you think the pyramid is one layer of stones? I'm also talking about the "king's chamber" that is in the middle if the pyramid. Pray tell, what fucking elements are there inside the pyramid, numbnuts?
>>220036890Dude, when you build a wall or floor out of stones, of course you can't fit a paper between them. No one has ever built a wall or floor or ceiling out of stones such that you can pass things through it, otherwise it's a shit wall.
>>220036741
egyptians discovered the wheel: 1500 BCdate of khufu reign: 2500 BCeven disregarding taking khufu's claim at face value, that is a ONE THOUSAND YEAR DISCREPANCY between the egyptians having wheel technology and the great pyramids (which we cannot replicate today).egyptians didn't build it, simple as. and if they did where are the fucking mass graves of workers dying of heat exhaustion hauling 200 multi ton stones around in desert heat?
>>220036915>>220036890Look at this advanced, amazing ancient super technology, you can't even fit a piece of paper between the bust and pedestal.
>>220036459None of those things you listed prevent us from rebuilding the pyramid if we wanted to. All of those would be very easy to replicate. You say that a guy said we can't, but you left out what reason he gave. Was it just "it would be too expensive or there would be too much bureaucracy?"
>>220036915>No one has ever built a wall or floor or ceiling out of stones such that you can pass things through it, otherwise it's a shit wall.Not "things" you disingenuous piece of shit. A piece of paper! And not "all the way through" you fucking worm, but at any part of it. The granite blocks in the "king's chamber" fit to one another perfectly, each face, each side, each corner fits to the other ones so there is absolutely no gaps of any kind anywhere.
>>220036870how come they only built 3 big ones and theyre all different and theres no evidence of them being used for burials?
>>220036976>you left out what reason he gave.He gave the reason of not having the necessary tools or skills. Like we can design it, draw it to minute detail, but when it comes to faithfully reproducing that drawing in real life, we couldn't get it as perfect as the ancient egyptians.
>>220036986I just looked up this king's chamber you keep bringing up as an example of how the Egyptians must have had super advanced amazing technology we can't replicate today. What a dumb piece of shit you are, I hope you're just trolling.Behold the Egyptians' power, beyond even our ability to replicate today: they could cut and move stones on top of each other, such that you can't pass a piece of paper between each stone.
>>220037052now post a pic of masonry buildings from the 1500s
On the day of the spring equinox (and only then), the great pyramid of giza has a cool effect.>pic relHowever, when the pyramids were built they covered the sides so that it seemed like it was one side. Now why would they spend time and effort planning something like this when it couldn't be seen in their finished product?The pyramids are full of mysteries, and then faggots go "hurr durr just a pile of rocks!" Literal two-digit IQ monkeys.
>>220037052BEHOLD THE MAGICAL POWERS OF THE EGYPTIANSNot even the greatest minds today could build something like this
You can “shape” sandstone with your bare hands and spit.
>>220036813Pyramids aren't giant trucks, you don't need wheels to build them when you have logs and ropes. Also, you can't do shit with wheels if you don't have oxes or horses to carry heavy loads.>>220036879If not leaving my room because a fag dared me to but it would probably look like this.
>>220037078>>220037052ok, now build it perfectly replicating it in a great pyramid using the power of modern technology.oh wait, we can't
>>220037052You see those granite blocks in the background. Look up how big they are, look up how much they weigh, and then use your puny brain to imagine what it would take to achieve that. The chamber is also some 80m high.
>>220037084It is almost impossible to have bricks where you can't pass paper through them, this is a truly powerfdul technology the Egyptians possessed.
>>220037104>you don't need wheels with log and ropewhere are the mass graves of dead slaves hauling multi ton stones in desert heat? as a matter of fact, the egyptians have no account of building the pyramid (aside of khufu ordering limestone for pyramid facade restoration), and so they couldn't even tell you.
>>220037108>the power of modern technologyThis qualifier excludes your hands.
egyptians didn't build the pyramid, it's the occams razor explanation. they are also far older than what glowy archaeologists claim, these are the simplest explanations. they were likely built when the sahara was green, which was roughly 15,000 years ago
>>220037131There was no mortar between the stones in the "king's chamber", you fucking troglodyte.
>>220037084It’s pretty slick you gotta admit
>>220037133Dead slaves we’re most likely either eaten or used as fertilizer for food.
>>220037131A brick wall uses mortar, dumbass. A better example are greek columns where the weight of the stone is the thing keeping them in place.
>>220037178You can see the shit between the stones you penis.
>>220037205nothe green sahara explanations also excludes aliens, it's just that glowies are scared of admitting they either don't know the past or have actively censored it
>>220037108We could do it, it's just not worth anyone's effort to do so. Why would you want to rebuild the pyramid? Where would you even do it? Who is going to pay for it? Just because we have the power to do something and choose not to because it's a waste of time doesn't mean it's impossible.>>220037117According to google, those blocks weigh about 20 tons each, that's about 40000 pounds each. You're talking about a civiliization with access to god knows how many slaves and servants and, more importantly, had already invented ramps and rope. Would it be difficult to move those blocks? Yes. Would it be impossible? No.Your god-king told you to build him a giant tomb, so you do. There's no secret suppressed technology involved.
>>220037225That's dust and sand accumulating at the top. There is nothing between the stones, because they fit perfectly together.
>>220037241>it's just not worth anyone's effort to do sowe lack the technology, even in the age of AI
>>220037178Dude, just look at this image of the king's chamber.>>220037084You can clearly see the fucking mortar.
>>220037258If they “fit perfectly together” there’d be no visual indications they were multiple stones.
>>220037104pyramids have bases with equal sides, iqlethow the fuck do you manage to operate a pc without having gone through elementary school?
>>220031006He's right
>>220037241>You're talking about a civiliization with access to god knows how many slaves and servantsExcept the pyramid was built by paid, skilled laborers and by Egyptians working during the growing off-season. "Hebrew slaves built the pyramids" is literally a Jewish myth and has no basis in reality. lmao
>>220037288Ok Hasan.
>>220037302Shalom.
>>220037294>and by Egyptians working during the growing off-seasonnot enough man-power for 200 ton stones a day. egyptians didn't build it. some far older civilization did when the sahara wasn't a desert.
>>220037278You're unbelievably stupid, you know that?>inb4 I was only pretending
why did no one tear down or build up around the pyramids over 1000s of years? theres a huge city right there, it doesnt make any sense for it to stop expanding where it did.
I suspected but had no actual framework for my belief that Big Academia is wrong and that blond haired supermen had an advanced globe-spanning civilization on Earth in the distant past. They also, very clearly, mastered ESP and telekinesis and probably had video games and entertainment featuring futanari elves with balls. There are no male elves, they are all futanari and they are ashamed of their sex drives and procreation habits and they blush a lot and try to conceal their large penises with foreskin and balls as well. This was all kept from us but the collective genetic memory of humans can't keep it repressed forever and I'm glad it's all coming out now and that someone understands.
>>220031006All the music, film, sports, and celebrities just parroted lefty bullshit and open borders so he's just mad they don't have a monopoly on Twitter anymore
>>220037319Skilled labor requires less manpower to accomplish the same thing.Have you ever actually had a job or even worked, ever?
>>220037336Lol
>>220037319>not enough man-power for 200 ton stones a day.Which is another problem with the timeline. The GPG is built with over 2 million blocks of varying sizes. To build it in 26 years, like historians say, the Egyptians would have had to quarry, cut, transport for over 50km, cut to size and shape, and lift and place the stone in under 2 minutes.
>>220037356have you ever hauled multi ton stones a day using only ropes in desert heat?retard
>>220037320That feeling you have right now? It’s being out of arguments.
>>220028747I know the dude is proof is flimsy as fuck, and some of it is downright wrong. But i still enjoy watching this kind of slop.
>>220037398They didn't literally haul all of them over the desert. They used barges on the nile, and when they had to transport over the sand, they dragged them on wooden sledges on the sand, which itself was moistened in advance to make easier to move.
>>220037321Sandstone isn’t incredibly useful and there’s tons of it.
>>220037336This. To even SUGGEST that Jericho, Israel is not the first city on the planet and cradle of civilization is frankly disgusting and offensive. Gah! I can't even with these fucking antisemites!
>>220037052Build me something like this right now nigger. That’s right you don’t know how.
>>220037434No one denies that Sumer is older bro.
>>220037426yeah, 200 of them every single day, not just 1 or 2. this is also a structure with no discernible reason for existing outside of star gazing or religious worship.
>>220037448>right nowBut they spent decades building the pyramids.
>>220033861To build a site like gobleki tepe and the other sites around it you would have needed stonemasons and other trades, something that doesnt fit in the hunter gatherer society.
>>220037448I'm not a professional architect or laborer.
>>220037404You're moving the goalposts. If they were perfect as you say, then you'd just say>well if they were so good why didn't they build it out of one big stone, huh?!Someone has already made up your mind for you and you're just playing defense so that you can keep your preconceived notions. You think you're the first limp-wristed liberal faggot I have talked to about this? lol
>>220037458So do you think one crew went and got one stone at a time and then ran back for another, or are you remotely intelligent, and understand the stones were moved by hundreds, if not thousands of individuals stone crews at a time in a sort of “train?”
>>220037311Salam Aleykum
>>220037280>pyramids have bases with equal sidesWrong, that's called a square pyramid. You're not only autistic about petty shit but can't even get your facts right.
>>220037485Gobleki tepe wasn’t built all at once. It was slowly built up over 1600 years.
>>220037518thousands? hundreds of thousands would have to be set aside for that sort of work. so where are the graves? where are the accounts of this massive multi-decade endeavor? and this is an agriculture society, so these are workers set aside for physical labor and away from farm labor year round for decadesyou're defeated by your own shitty argument
>>220037500>the stones fit together perfectly!>id that were true it would look like one solid stone >y-youre m-moving g-goalposts!A direct refutation of a claim is not “moving goalposts.”
>>220037554>1600 years.And where did you get that number from?
>>220037579>so where are the graves?reserved for people of exceptionally high status.
>>220037434Jericho isn't even considered a city in the strictest sense of the term, it's more like a walled settlement. Just like globoid tepepe.
>>220037587https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
one of the cooler things i learned about the pyramids is that they used a special kind of sand to help move the blocks.they found a more fine sand in the structure of the blocks. but the sand that is found is not sand that is found locally in the deserts near the pyramids. the local sand which is finer and smother which would make it easier to move the blocks is down the Nile river like 100 miles or so.so these Egyptians were not only masters of building pyramids. the ways they built them was ingenious. because they realize that smoother sand is easier to push blocks on than rougher sand and they would ship tons of from 100 miles away just to use it to speed up the process. Fascinating isn't it.
>>220037636There’s also the bit about how they could’ve simply used all the fine sand within 100 miles
>>220037554Seems kind of implausible that people lived to be that old back then.
>>220037605where are the mass graves of laborers dying of heat exhausting in desert conditions? again, you are defeated by your own shitty argument.
>>220037675Sand is pretty poor material for burial as a method of disposing of bodies. Hence why they built tombs.
>>220037666what do you mean? the finer sand that was used in the constuction was not right next to the place they built the pyramids.it was in a quarry 100 miles away. did you not understand what i wrote?
>>220037636I just read up on this now, and google says that to move the blocks, they poured water in front of the wooden sledges to make it easier. I don't know where you're getting this 'fine imported sand' thing from.
>>220037722Are you having trouble mapping the concept they initially used closer deposits and deposits can be depleted?
>>220037706tombs for thousands of slaves constructing the pyramids? the egyptians discovered the pyramids and built their civilization there, or perhaps were the remnants of a greater one ala the sumerians
>>220037744because like i said, they found finer sand in between the blocks that is not the same sand that is in the deserts directly next to the pyramids. >>220037754nope.
>>220037763You’re the one who keeps insisting they simply must have “buried” or “entombed” the slaves as some sort of gotcha. That no other method of disposal or repurposing of a body is possible. We know they performed autopsies and were aware of the properties of different organs.
>>220037780you clearly are having trouble comprehending the idea that sand can be in more than one place, and if used, over time, will stop being where it was.
>>220037803you're the one living and dying by the rope and pulley argument without providing an explanation for the workforce, the lack of the record for the workforce, as well as the lack of evidence for the remnants of this workforce. this would entail the works of many thousands, not a few thousand. especially if this was a 26 year endeavor, requiring 200 stones a day.
>>220037830you are clearly not understanding that not all the sand in the world is the same, there is rougher more coarse sand and more finer and smoother sand. im saying they found the smoother sand in the pyramids which is not normally anywhere near the pyramids, but in a quarry down the nile and they shipped tons of the finer sand up the nile river on boats to use just make it easier to push stone over stonedo i have to draw a picture or something?
>>220037579You can't farm while the Nile is flooding the valleys. You should at least learn the most basic things about the Egyptian civilization before pretending there should be mass graves from people working on the pyramids.
It's just stacking big blocks.People seem to think this was all done ad hoc with a bit of prep time and not much else.Egyptian history shows us that these construction projects gradually became more and more elaborate which means there were architects and a whole production pipeline for that slowly developed over hundreds (thousands) of years of refinement.By the time they got to building the largest and most famous pyramids the craft has not only been perfected but they had generations upon generations of practice and skill to call upon.That means that every step of the process has been well thought out and tested in practice in other projects.
>>220037871Re-read >>220037666
>>220037900no u.
>>220037541So the great pyramid of giza isnt a pyramid?Ok I'll tell flint dibble.You're literally braindamaged tiers of stupid lol
>>220037870Anon the lack of records is exactly why it’s a “mystery.” Things we know: human remains can be used as fertilizer, they were an agrarian society, they only built tombs for high status individuals.This isn’t difficult. Unless you have some strong motivated reasoning to ignore how things could be possible.
EGYPTIANS NOT ONLY MASTER OF PYRAMID BUILDERS. BUT MASTER SHIPPERS. THEY USE BOATS ON NILE TO MOVE SAND FROM QUARRYS NEARLY 100 MILES AWAYGET IT FAGGOT? big world we live in. lots of shit.
>>220037946Why does it fluster your butt so hard to think that fine sand existed in closer locations until it was all used?
>>220037992lmaoim not listening
>>220037942your complete lack of evidence destroys your position, not bolster it. we know the sahara was green around 15,000 years ago. Gobekli T. is dated around 12-15,000 years ago, making them near contemporaneous. I would recommend decoupling your world view from a bunch of people committed to deceiving you
>>220037887No, but you see, they didn't use the wheel at that point. That means that things like planning or complex projects that involve thousands of people where beyond them because the wheel is the one and only benchmark of civilization. Building carts and chariots is a ritual that magically unlocks your full brain capacity.
>>220037992I literally looked it up. the farthest place they mined from was 900KM orFIVE HUNDRED MILES AWAY YOU INSUFFERABLE FAGGOT.THEY WENT FAR AWAY TO A SPECIAL QUARRY THAT HAD THE FINEST SAND IN THE AREA.WHATS NOT TO GET?
>>220037946Why would they have to bring sand from 100 miles away?It makes zero sense to even get to a point where you need to bring over sand when you have local sand, fine or not.They would likely think of a different solution to a problem than to create a supply chain just to get something as trivial as sand.
>>220038034>how the pyramids were built is a mystery because the records didn't survive>YOU MUST PROVIDE ALL THE RECORDS OF HOW THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT ELSE YOU CAN'T POSTULATE ANYTHING pick one retard. its either a mystery or there are exhaustive records. it can't be both.
>>220038072The idea that it wasn't the only quarry, just the last one used, and yet to be depleted, before the civilization collapsed.
>>220038077you're either a retard or just a retarded glowy, live and die in the ignorance you fight so hard for
>>220038113>being able to speculate is ignorance
>why dont they just use all the supplies closest ot the build siteWELL I GUESS THAT JUST SHOWS HOW BRILLIANT THEY REALLY WERE YOU FUCKING NUCKLE DRAGGER.
The great pyramid is no tomb. It is meant to create fertilizer through nitrogen production.First clue was an engineer discovering the underground chamber was used for a gravity ram base pump system that can pump water throughout the pyramid.It can also resonate parts of the pyramid. Then there are 3 chambers with chemical stains for the nitrogen production. The process is some type of sonic resonance vibrational chemistry which exists today and has working examples.Creating fertilizer is one of the most important parts of sustaining a large population.
>>220037887If it's just stacking blocks, how did they achieve all this: >>220037078 >>220036931 >>220036459Just a coincidence?
>>220038131the assertion, proposed in addition to >>220037636, is that closer sources existed and were depleted over time.The idea that someone just decided to walk 500km one day in search of better sand to drag rocks with is pretty silly.
>>220037937>square pyramids are not pyramids>not all pyramids are square pyramidsWhich one of these statements was I trying to say with my post? I know you have a celsius room temperature iq and have to be constantly projecting your idiocy, but try to think about if for a while and maybe in a few years you'll guess the right answer.
>>220036260The History For Granite guy’s theory is basically, that the pyramids were built as worship sites, that remained open, and which might have worked similar to pilgrimage sights built during the Middle Ages in Europe, and that the pyramids were only closed up later, maybe during the first intermediate period, when the Egyptian central government broke down. As a pilgrimage sight, tourists would have made donations, or paid fees, which then supported the priesthood that ran the temples, and this priesthood would then protect the burials and artifacts inside the temples and pyramids, essentially providing a self supporting human/priesthood security system, similar to modern churches or non-profits. This is a system later found in Europe during the Middle ages, as well as what was in place after the construction of the Taj Mahal in India. During the first intermediate period when the central government collapsed, the pyramids might have bern closed up for security reasons by the priesthood, since there was no central government yo protect the sites, and little money from tourism, and the priesthood may have had to sell valuables to survive. There are plenty of modern parallels to this. The later pharoahs who built the valley of the kings may have known about the issues with the system during the Old Kingdom, and simply chose to try to hide their tombs, like less wealthy individuals had previously done, maybe with a temple in the region to fund a central temple for security, rather than individual sites.
>>220028785ppppppffffffffttttttttttdoesn’t even beat the Irish mound.
>>220038174nah i dont want to hear backtracking. thanks for nothing.>but but but but butbut nothing. i said what i said. not backing downthey shipped finer sands up the nile because the builders of the pyramids understood the difference in fineness of sand. you act like im stupid or something, but i just looked it up, they shipped red granite from 500 miles away specifically for the interior chambers.because the put a lot of thought into it i guess. you know like when you build a minecraft house and you use WOOD, and STONE, and OTHER EXOTIC MATERIALS NOT FOUND LOCALLY OR SOMETHINGWHATS NOT TO GET?
>>220038246>backtracking>>220037666>there's alsoit seems you've just hardwired yourself to think everything is combative or a debate to be won, and can't comprehend a conversation.
comes in. states some cool fact.get "deboonked" by a moron>BACKTRACK??????yes you are changing your story. why you feel like you needed to interject IDK.must be on stupid pills or something. stop (You)ing me with your stupid thoughts. RETARD.
>>220038308no one tried to "debunk" you dude.
>>220038429>you know those stupid egyptians, would transport sand 100 miles away to help build the pyramids.>RETARDS ARE LITERALLY SURROUNDED BY SANDstop sassing me faggot. you literally have no right to be mad, except because you are STUPID.
>>220038457Anon. No one said that. Seek mental help.
>>220036813>they didn't have wheels dumb nigga, how they gonna build big pyramids without knowing about wheels dumb niggaOne of the great pyramid passages had dome holes drilled into thr side and what was found behind the stone was sand. The sand however, was not local sand, but sand that had to be transported from miles away, from a location on the Red Sea. The sand had rounded grains, and was very hard, and this sand could therefore have acted like mini ball bearings, to lower friction, for moving heavy objects, or as a “flowing sand”, for hydraulic purposes. In case you are unaware, sand used for general masonry purposes like mortar, is required to have sharp grains, which will structurally interlock under pressure.
>>220038469if i wanted to make a house of moonrocks. WHY DONT I JUST USE THE ROCKS RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE I WANT TO BUILD.you will do anything but just shut up.
>>220031006Oh.So Hancock is a chud and Dibble is a söycück.That clears it up.
>>220038498I will continue poking someone who's clearly mentally ill and can't comprehend a conversation, much less the idea that a deposit of resources can be depleted over time. that life isn't like age of empires and the quarry will always be there forever.
>>220038534your ignorance is your own downfall. not mine.
>>220033737I think this photo proves jews belong in the middle east since all the goatfuckers that live there look like this. They certainly wouldn't fit in anywhere else.
>>220038558>you're ignorant if you don't think there was only ever one deposit of fine sand in egypt, ever
>>220038591>you are mentally illi have a better solution 4 UYOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!you are stupid. you dont know what you are saying. just shut up and go find someone else to botherWOMAN.
>>220038608Its just lightly amazing how angry you are over the assertion a civilization could deplete resources.
"Hey guys we need finer sand for this, what about your cousin that has a fine sand mine 1000000 elbows away, do you think he can deliver some? We only need about five hundred thousand camel's worth of it?"
>>220028785there is no way hunter gatherers could have stacked rocks that highthat is clearly the work of a civilization much more advanced than our own
>>220036870While as much as I've LOVE for the >Room under the Sphinx to be the Ancient Aliens / Assassin's Creed super treasure trovethis is also true. This is also the case with likely the First Emperor of Qin / QinShiHan's tomb. Ground penetrating radar shows that the entire mountain is basically a vault that is supposed to be his palace and symbolically all under heaven, in miniature. Even the stuff uncovered like the Terracotta Warriors all had individual faces, and there were actual scribes and officials killed to be buried there to serve the Emperor in the next life. The big reason it hasn't been uncovered so far is doing so without both A) ruining it and B) not contaminating the whole area. Supposedly they used mercury fucking EVERYWHERE down there including the oceans, rivers and other stuff, as well as etching it into the sky vault to be stars etc... so even the dirt close to the place is heavily contaminated. I can kind of respect not opening it until they can figure out a way to not have it instantly fucked up once its open but I also get why this leads to all kinds of alternative theories.
i just like how disingenuous faggots like to undermine pretending to know what they are talking about.
whats not to get. im proclaiming they are master builders. they imported lots of materials from far distant lands to make the pyramids........BECAUSE THEY DIDall you can do is mock and cope that you are WRONG.like leave this thread. i dont know why you are being territorial over HOW WRONG YOU AREtrying to DEFEND your HONOR. when you are WRONG.
>>220038701LEAVE the THREAD you CRAZY bastard!!!
>>220038715not when its so easy to punch down on naysayers. because i am punching down at this point. you may not think so......but i am.
>>220038737no one started "naysaying" until you proved you were mentally ill by becoming enraged by the assertion there could've once been closer, more accessible sources of various materials, that were depleted, making it necessary to secure more distant sources.
just more ignorance, being disingenuous.just say>oh wow, i didnt realize that the egyptians were smarter than i knew. because they are, and you didnt know, and you tried to sit here and tell me im wrong or crazy or whatever, when in reality ITS (You)You are annoying leave the thread. you are hear just to sandbag, and its not even the fine kind.
i really get when they say about arguing with stupid people. we must really be in the kali yuga. because 1/4 of the world is intellectually true, while 3/4ths of your dumb ass is intellectually FALSE.
>>220038861anon, your "there was only ever one place this sand existed and the egyptians knew where it was because they were psychic" thing is just stupid. you'd have to know about the sand and its properties before you'd scout out a source 500km away.
>>220028747Flint ended Hancock when he outed him being a white supremacist he never recovered. this is the reason that chuddies hate him here
>>220038938I have a Egyptian joke for youYou live in a state of De Nileget it De Nile, Denial? because you just sit here and be an antagonictic bitch that just denys everything. and were talking about Egypt and the Nile. oh well i thin that one is not going over, but just actually straight through your headGET IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO BRAIN OBSTRUCTING THE ENTRANCE
>>220038938>anon, your "there was only ever one place this sand existed and the egyptians knew where it was because they were psychic" thing is just stupid. you'd have to know about the sand and its properties before you'd scout out a source 500km away.You just send out scouts, maybe individuals who travel for other reasons, and have these individuals collect bags of sand on their travels, and mark the bags do you know where the sand is from, and have those individuals bring the bags of sand back with whatever else they are transporting. Some technician then looks over the sand, and notes any promising sand, and then finds the guy who brought the sand back to have the guy lead the technician to the source of the sand, where quantities, and logistics of transport can be determined. Then the technician arranges a transport system for the sand, like any industry. Garnet abrasive dust may have been used in Ancient Egypt for stone cutting, and that would also have bern found and transported.
>>220039162>hey dude, go look for stuff>uh... like what?>iunno, stuff, come back if you find anything usefulsounds like your sole understanding of how civilization functions came from the civilization franchise.
>>220035353Point of clarification, gh didn't discover the bimini "road" and the main connection with atlantis is that edgar cayce said atlantis would be found in the caribbean, which sounds like a predictive programming setup to me.>>220035780>>220035936The problem is non-professionals making claims without showing anything to back them up while actively denigrating scientific methodology, esp. when it disagrees with them.>>220036090Yeah, 820AD, when the pyramids were already roughly 2000 years old. >>220036260>in like a hidden valley or something.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_KingsIt's not that hidden and there's a big honking mortuary temple right next to it.>>220036459>they always forget about the pounders>>220037213That's the point. After a certain period, everything is mortared so when the mortar erodes out, you get a gap. It's a false equivalency stemming from mortared joints being the primary basis for comparison. >>220037241The only 20 ton+ stones are in the chambers and passages. The bulk of the blocks average 2.5 tons.
>>220039155anon, what part of >>220037666 is a denial of >>220037636?
What did the later pharaohs think about the pyramids? Do they ever mention them in their texts? Most of their tombs would have been lame in comparison, so how could they still defend their godly status before the people.
Did that german autist show up yet who has irrefutable proof the pyramids were made to synthesize chemicals?
>>220040671>yo pharaoh bitch yo how come this other pyramid is way bigger bitch>oh yeah? you wanna start working on a larger one eh cunt? got something else going on? wanna find me some super-fine sand that's 700km away? didn't think so
>>220040671>how could they still defend their godly status before the peopleWith sick ass statues and obelisks I reckon.
>>220028785AHHHHHHHH HOW DID THEY MOVE ROCKS WITHOUT THE AID OF MY DEER TRACTOR WHICH IS CURRENTLY ON LOAN AHHHHHH IM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND
>>220028747Dibble rekt this retard and ever since he's refused to be in debates with actual archaeologists
>>220040728Yep, he posted the "pharos pump' animated diagram. Honestly that's kind of unique though, typically when I hear they had other function its usually >crystal vibrational transdimensional akashic record access console >Nuclear reactor that's either a version of cargo cult shit from seeing ancient aliens but they can't make it properly, or its functional and more capable Atlantean tech than anything else >Some sort of quantum eternal life energy machine transformation rig so the Pharaoh can live eternally as a god in another realm or revivify or whatever the fuck
>>220041377It’s still kinda silly. >how’d they get all the fertilizer>whered all the slave labor go>surely the answer is there was no slave labor and they made giant stone fertilizer factories to feed [???] with ancient advanced tech that was lost and left no trace
>>220041210>>220040793I have more qs.Was it really worth it to melt down all the shit robbed from the tombs? Considering how much and what level of stuff was in irrelevant Tut's hastily-put-together tomb already... there's not a better quality mask than his and there must have been some in existence. Wouldn't the statues and such be worthier with their artistic value intact, too? Or was it really so taboo they melted down every golden statue and death mask to the last one simply for superstitious reasons?How were Akhenaten's hips so wide. Dude has the face and figure of a bogged black woman.They were all inbred so why is he so distinct and recognizable.
>>220028747Does he actually believe the shit he says, or does he just grift for his job?
>>220041740He is method acting the role of someone who believes it.
>>220039048Hancock is married to a black chick you insane faggot homo gaylord.
>>220042019She's Indian actually.
>>220037458Countless structures spanning from the pyramids to Stonehenge to catholic cathedrals exist with no discernable reason other than religious worship lolPeople build weird shit for weird shit
>>220042494No way that this, the tallest building of the world at the time, was built for no reason other than religious worship. It's clearly the top of an underground super reactor used to contact aliens.
