>Soviet Union hasn't existed for 37 years>they're still making anti-Soviet propagandawhat are they so scared of?
>>220032741they needed a bad guy
>>220032793why not the Mexicans?
Show is a Gen X Neoliberal fantasy written by types who jerk off to the West Wing and think Kamala would have been the best President ever.They're super lazy and inconsistent with their anti-Soviet stuff which is the worst part. For example, Glasnost as Perestroika were supposed to be successful, but the USSR even in the 1990s-2000s under Gorbachev and a flourishing economy and completed Glasnost (so literally more freedom of press/speech than the West) is portrayed like peak 1938 Stalin era show trials where people live in a cold blue filter hellhole, dress in drab early 20th century clothes, bread lines and all.It's stated Cosmonauts will get shot in the head for even making a mistake in a speech.Soviet tech is shown to be basically shit tier as well, despite they were the first to the moon and have a full moon base and everything and IRL Soviets have phenomenal space tech even more advanced than Nasa.Also just basic facts wrong, Roscosmos which Soviets never ever would call anything, often use Russian flag, sometimes they have patches with double eagle with crown.
>>220032741They're about to get steam rolled by the collective European union when the war between them and Ukraine ceases. No one is scared of a shit nation that is depopulating themselves right now.
>>220032741Safe bad guys.
>>220032741they're scared of the idea that a single guy shouldn't own something forever.you think it's normal for a company like Disney to own exclusive rights to Mickey Mouse for 100 years?
>>220032817because she is:>Mexican>woman>illegal immigrantThat's three reasons why she can't be evil.
>>220032741>anti-soviet propaganda>literally first twist is that in the encounter with commies, they dont kill themits pinko propaganda
>largest country in the world by a massive margin>insane amount of natural resources>both sides want to be friendly with you and trade>one of the few countries to come out of WW2 stronger than they entered (relative to other world powers, who were decimated)>have the two of the 3 biggest world markets on either side of you (Europe and China)-->instead burn every single bridge available and become a pariah, only existing because India and China don't give a shit about morality as long as they have oil
>>220032900And the gulag prison guards in S5 look like Russian policemen IRL today. They just can't help themselves. Well, we assume they do it willingly. I'm starting to think the showrunners do it because if they did anything less than full on anti-Soviet and anti-Russian propaganda, they might call them Russian sympathisers and then their whole life would be ruined. Like they did with that Swiss general who now can't even use a debit card in a store or own a bank account.It was different in previous seasons, they still had "good Russians". But now literally every single Russian character is evil, scheming, lying, untrustworthy, murderer...>inb4 but that's what Russians areJust goes to show how people have been absolutely MINDFUCKED by the media.
>>220033035maybe they just didn't want to submit to us power?
>>220032941The Soviet Union dissolved in 1989, you stupid fucking retard.
>>220032967>a single guy shouldn't own something forevercool it with the antisemitism
>>220033072they didn't have to, they could've been the world power
I really can't stand Kelly Baldwin's actress. She just doesn't do a good job. Has she been professionally trained?It's really funny when she pretends to be intimidating and use curse words. Lmao. So cringe. Easily the worst actress on the show.What happened to actors who knew their strengths and weaknesses? She should know better.
>>220033035shalom
>>220033079>The Soviet Union dissolved in 1989, you stupid fucking retard.shalom
>>220032941No I don't think the EU will be declaring war on anyone
>>220032741>Nazis haven't existed in over 80 years>they're still making anti-Nazi propagandaWhat are they so scared of?
>>220033179Listen, moron, you can make the argument that the RSFSR didn't dissolve and it is Russia today. Which would be fine. But it is an undeniable fact that the SOVIET UNION, as in a union of Soviet states, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Mongolia, Tajikistan, etc etc. has fucking dissolved.
>>220032967What's so wrong with that that you want to threaten me with a gun to give it up? If we didn't have property rights, this website wouldn't exist. You are a communist, kill yourself.
>>220033198>Nazis haven't existed in over 80 years[citation needed]>anti-Nazi propagandalmao. In every American movie Nazis are always presented as these highly educated, well-spoken, polite and well-mannered people. Even in Jewish fantasies like Inglorious Basterds, the Nazis are presented in a good light.>"Bravery."Or do you mean that they aren't showing the truth about the Nazis, that they were all drug-addled faggots and crossdressers and how Heinrich Himmler, the leader of the SS and one of the chief Nazis ran a gay brothel out of the SS headquarters. There's a whole book full of pictures of Nazis dressing up and pretending to be women.
>>220032741The [Trotskyists] have never forgiven the Leninists. The [Trotskyists] are currently in power in europe and much of the united states. This has been the case since the interwar period for america and right at the end of ww2 for europe.
>>220033079Yeah, it totally isn't the same thing or something.
>>220033337Are Kazakhstan and Latvia part of Russia? No. But they were part of the Soviet Union, therefore not the same thing. You're really struggling with this concept, huh?
>>220032741I was enjoying this for a few episodes then it basically became queer as folk
>>220032741If the goal is anti-Soviet propaganda, why are they making an entirely Soviet-focused spinoff about how brilliant Korolev was, and how they could have reached the moon first if he lived a bit longer?
>>220033454>why are they making an entirely Soviet-focused spinoff about how brilliant Korolev was,You answered it "how brilliant Korolev was", not how great the SU was. Since this is alternative history, they'll probably show Korolev as some pro-LGBT, pro-capitalism renegade who does what he does despite the Soviet Union and in the show the Soviets will kill him because he didn't salute for the proper number of seconds or something.
>>220033035What happened is they didn't give people the ability and incentive to earn wealth. So people don't earn wealth. They can now, but they just don't have the will. If they do, they generally go to western countries where it is easier and more culturally acceptable. The soviets forced people to make things. Now the force has gone away, nobody wants to make things. They were treated like farm animals and now that the farmer is gone, they don't know how to get food. They need a couple generations of cultural correction and capitalism. The women need to breastfeed their kids to stop their average iq from further plummeting. They need to stop getting abortions and drinking during pregnancy. They need to stop treating children as if they are a problem and start being loving parents with hope in their hearts.
The wikipedia synopsis tells me all I need to know about this>In an alternate timeline in 1969, Soviet cosmonaut Alexei Leonov becomes the first human to land on the Moon. This outcome devastates morale at NASA but also catalyzes a U.S. effort to catch up. With the Soviet Union emphasizing equality by including a woman in subsequent landings, the United States is forced to match pace, equally training women and ethnic minorities (who were largely excluded from the initial decades of U.S. space exploration).>Pushed by higher competition, the Soviet and other blocs favor more competent leaders, modernizing earlier and on more rational ground. With sustained investments in technology, a broad, sustained, and global technological race takes place, with a wide range of dramatic civilian effects, such as early civil rights, electric vehicles, civilian fusion power, controlled CO2 production, and no climate crisis.
MARS IS ARSE
>>220033498>and in the show the Soviets will kill himIn the main show Korolev is still around in 1983 and appears in season 2 in a small role. That's far beyond the stretch of time the spinoff will cover
>>220032741Jeez might it be the hordes of people still calling for communism to this day.Anti Soviet stuff makes way more sense than propaganda against Nazis or white supremists or incels
>>220033256perhaps you should ask yourself why someone would consider it such an injustice for a corporate monopoly to exist that he'd be willing to kill for it.Have some empathy. People aren't stupid, they have their own history that justifies their beliefs.Nowhere did i deny the merit of property rights. I value those, but not when they are abused as we clearly see with companies like Disney.I can't be providing all the answers. Trying to understand someone's beliefs beyond 'lol stupid commie' goes a long way.
>>220033837They'll still show him as a dissident and imply he was killed. Of course they fucking will. Have you not noticed the cartoonish nature of portrayal of Soviets?Like the scenes when Margo is going to the bakery, everyone is smiling, sun is shining. Then literally the next day, everything is grey, people are all scared and angry, the bakery is empty... it's such a fucking caricature. But I know there are people who think that's "reality".>>220033879Thank you for the official Jewish position, rabbi.
>>220033879Those "hordes of people still calling for communism" reside entirely within the imagination of the amerigolem
>>220032981Dumbass. The point of propaganda is to make people feel threatened but also motivated. If they just kill the commies from the get go, them they aren't a threat
>>220033912People kill for looking at them funny. Shut the fuck up with that bullshit. You are an appeaser, an enabler, a cuckold, a pusher. It is your fault that people get away with murder, rape and theft. Sophists like you wouldn't have the language skills to attempt such disgusting subversion and demoralization if the government didn't subsidize and monopolize it for you. Go fuck yourself.
>>220034058aren't those who allow corporate, billionaire, or jewish abuse also cuckolds? aren't they also allowing theft, murder, rape, to be done by those parties?
>>220034058>People kill for looking at them funny.Tell us more about life in South Central, Tyrone.
>>220034172I will not indulge your nonsense, demon. Go fuck yourself.
>>220034189So what happens to downtown niggers in a communism?
>>220034356There are no downtown niggers in communism. That's kinda the point of communism.
>>220034356you move them somewhere else. no one is forcing you to live with people you don't want.economic policy and social borders are 2 separate things. Of course, ideologies tend to combine both, and so we get nothing.
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>>220034744It's like that scene from They Live, when John tries to give the sunglasses to Frank. Frank resists and even fights John not to put them on. It's very hard to break people out of their ideological prison. Even if it is for their own good they'll fight against it.
>>220034822i see need to watch that movie.have a good weekend, anon.
>>220033065>Just goes to show how people have been absolutely MINDFUCKED by the media.Revisionist claptrap. The problem you've got is that in Reality Land most people *had* started to forget the lessons of WW2 and the Cold War; most of us grew up watching TV fiction that presented the Russians as basically good eggs who had been repressed or misrepresented, which had Cold War-era military types begrudgingly warming up to Russians they had to cooperate with etc, and with a news media landscape that presented Putin as just a Russian version of the Reasonable Centrist. Shit if you were a leftie for the 90's or oughts and you expressed any doubts about Russia you were denounced as an AmeriKKKan Imperialist Pigdog brainwashed by propaganda.It was only 10 years ago when half of America got Orange Man Derangement Syndrome that the liberal press started with their neoMcCarthyite bullshit where every single thing was a Russian plot, but even that was treated as overblown by most people. The reason people think the Russians are evil, scheming, lying, untrustworthy murderers is because that's how they've been behaving for the last decade.Arguing the Russians are basically decent and people have just been brainwashed by NATO Imperialist Lies or whatever is no more tenable than the people trying to pretend that there are good Israelis and bad Israelis, because they themselves have shown their true colours to the world, unashamedly, viscerally, and undeniably. Russians are either deranged Imperialists, authoritarian statist nutjobs, profiteering gangsters, or just completely disinterested selfish zombies happy for their government to do whatever it likes so long as they get their daily five litres of vodka. Israelis are all bloodthirsty psychopaths who would gladly build a pyre for the world if it meant they got their little desert shithole all to themselves. People have eyes man.
>>220033528>REAL capitalism has just never been tried!
>>220035041>Russians are either deranged Imperialists, authoritarian statist nutjobs, profiteering gangsters, or just completely disinterested selfish zombies happy for their government to do whatever it likes so long as they get their daily five litres of vodka.Replace "Russians" with "Americans" and "vodka" with "coca cola" and it is still true. So why should I listen to you Amerigolem?
>>220035041>It was only 10 years ago when half of America got Orange Man Derangement Syndrome that the liberal press started with their neoMcCarthyite bullshitIt started a couple years before Trump entered politics, and wasn't just the liberal media doing it. There was a pivot to anti-Russia rhetoric because War on Terror anti-Muslim stuff had worn out its usefulness, Americans were tired of Middle Eastern conflicts and wanted to disengage from them. So something other than jihadists/terrorists needed to take their place as America's #1 enemy
>>220032941>They're about to get steam rolled by the collective European union when the war between them and Ukraine ceasesEurope will be majority non european at that point lmao
>>220036057*the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea was convenient timing and helped get this going, but didn't start it. More than a year before that, you had stuff like Mitt Romney in a 2012 debate saying "Russia is our number one geopolitical foe" which many found weird and shocking at the time, but he probably said it because there was some defense industry or foreign policy think tank behind him, wanting to introduce that type of thing into the public consciousness
>>220032741>Soviet Union hasn't existed for 37 yearswhy are you on 4chan defending it?
>>220032741I can't cope with them killing Trace
>>220032741What's wrong with anti-soviet/ruzzian propoganda? You're some kind of queer tankie?
>>220035139Less rape.
>>220035094What's your problem anon?
>>220032741It's a show for women like all modern tv shows
