Is having muscles really like this ?
People who put arrows in YouTube thumbnails should have their fingers broken.
>>220055532Girls prefer jacked guys with low body fat and wide shoulders and large arms and tall height, not roid trannies.
YesI am very attractive but also an autist
>>220055532It's more the other way around. girls are more comfortable with you touching them if you are in good shape. they want to be the center of attention, they do not value being able to touch you. the fact that you do makes you a beta faggot.
>>220055584>jacked guys with low body fat and wide shoulders and large arms and tall height>not roid trannies.whats difference ?
>>220055715>he doesn't know
you can tell this person is important in the scene because the women are looking at him
>>220055532If you're a male stripper, yes. Women won't just touch random guys. I once knew a girl whose idea of flirting was to constantly brush and bump against you and it was like the weirdest thing I ever experienced and I'm glad I didn't push things too far with her because she slept around a lot.
>>220055532Good pecks specifically. Yes. You don't need abs or lats, or even biceps. Defined, iron pecks is all you really need.
>>220055799>pecks
>>220055532Not anymore. That’s the bare minimum required at this point to not be completely invisible to a woman.
>>220055584Being a roidfag is more a sense of mind than it is actually roiding out, though one will eventually lead to the other.
>>220055576It's the quickest and simplest way to make the thumbnail "original."
>>220055532thin and attractive face will always trump roidfags and it drives them mad, if you're born with it you dont have to do anything.
>>220055876They do it to entice curiosity clicks. I often check the comments and find people asking what the arrow is supposed to be pointing to.
>>220055532>be me>autistic>start working out>asexual alcoholic roommate invites a mutual acquaintance to try the rum he brewed>I'm in my room playing vidya on the big projector screen>walk out into the kitchen, talk to them>they move into my room>keep playing, sometimes joining the conversation>roommate goes to the bathroom>acquaintance points at me, asks "may I...?">autistically pass her the controller>she says "I meant may I touch your bicep"And that's how I started dating my wife of five years, anons.
>>220055532>start doing this
wtf
>>220055532Yes.>>220055593Same. You still need to know how to talk to women (I don't) or they lose interest fast.
>>220055532take a few SARMs and find out
>>220057632Just retardmax
>>220055764And you can see the two fags thinking of wanting to fuck him at the back.
>>220055532In my (meagre) experience yes.... BUT, the only niggas who have been interested in my pecks were men for some reason, idk maybe it's because i have a bit of a beer belly?
>>220055532is he natty?
>>220055532Absolutely.
Ok tv9k i'm gonna give you the jist of it>1: be handsome/tall (and handsome)>2. never don't do step 1>3. see above>4. repeat
>>220055584Imo roid trannies is the male version of bogged. A certain part of the population can overlook that stuff. If you think about it, those things go hand in hand, both are gross exaggerated features. Bogging is simply faster, cheaper, and less dangerous.
>>220055532Me in the back
>>220055836> not anymore. That’s the bare minimum required at this point to not be completely invisible to a woman.If by women you mean gay men you are right. The best you will look to everyone isnt Evans build. Its more of pratts build, even he could go up a percentage or 2
>>220055532The funniest part of Captain America is who he is originally. He's a pathetic, short, little nothing of a male. He's unironically a chud, incel, loser that has unearned arrogance, overconfidence, the opinion that he's always right and that he deserves everything without needing to put in any work. Then magically, he gets his wish. In the blink of an eye, he goes from a 5' scrawny manlet that can't do a pushup and never did a hard day's work to a 6'4 gigachad all the women faun over. Never had to hit the gym once. And he's just like "yep, this is the body God intended for me all along. Now it just matches how strong I identify as and how right I knew I was all along."
>>220055532>be me, 220lbs at like 34% body fat the last 10 years>been working the last 2 years in a medical office surrounded by all kinds of women(old and fat, young and hot, etc)>finally decided to get my shit together and work out to get a six pack since I've never seen mine before>go to the gym 5 times a week early ass in the morning before work>Intermittent fasting for 30+ hours once a week and developed the habit of "I either eat healthy or I don't eat">pounds just start melting away, clothing starts becoming to baggy, fat bitches start talking shit about how I'm turning into a twig and will blow away in the breeze>fast forward 7 months later. I'm 168lbs, 17% body fat. Abs still not showing but chest, shoulders, and arms have become more defined and I wear work clothes that are actually snug/fitted instead of loose and baggy>old fat bitches don't talk shit anymore and instead are way more openly flirty. Young hot bitches will actually do thay stupid move where they laugh at a comment I make just for an excuse to reach out and touch my arm or shoulder or chest while they chuckle.I'm not even cut or well defined yet, but the foundation is there. But yeah, I can tell you that being in shape gets you positive attention from both men and women.
I get this reaction from women but I'm into guys.No man are interested in me. I live in a special kind of hell.
>>220055532Yes I remember senior year after hitting the gym for 6 months and the fuck me eyes my pecks got underneath my shirt, not even eye contact first
>>220056598Working out really is the silver bullet for inceldom. Women are stupid. If you look like you take care of yourself, they'll think you can take care of them.
>>220059902>don't be insecure about your height.
>>220057361is that the sisters guy from shawshank?
>>220055532yea desu. its blackpilling. women are actually much worse than men when you put a hot guy in front of them. difference is like 1/10 of guys are hot whereas most chicks are fuckable regardless
>>220060508>>220060262Unless you're a total gymcel who doesn't care about anything but his deadlift record, working out on a regular schedule actually DOES imply that you can take care of things.
>>220060262>168lbsOh no
>>220060563Well, at least one thing, yeah.
>>220060524Anonymous I give true to life advice ok, the Just be tall- pardon me, JBT was implied in rule 1 as it coincides with "Just be handsome."
>>220060565That's a good weight regardless of height.I'm 5'8, 180lbs and built like an ox after consistently working out for 4 years.
>>220060508What happens when they start talking to you and realise you're shy, unconfident, boring and do not follow popular trends?
>>220060598You'll find common interests with the more autistic ones. That'll give you more confidence and make you less shy. That's hiw I met my wife, and our second baby is on the way. (She still doesn't know I'm secretly an incel)
You glass her.
>>220060262how tall are you anon? you're giving me a glimmer of hope
>>220060626What happens if they continue talking to you and realise you live with your family, can't drive, have mental illness and chronic physical ailments?
>>220060598Just be vague as shit and you come off as more mysterious than a loser. I'm mid 30's living with my parents and I play video games as a hobby and have an autism for references in movies and tv. Not exactly the kind of man women fawn over. Still, I'm attractive enough where they WANT my attention in some way, so when they ask me shit like what I'm doing over the weekend I just hit them with non-answers like "Oh you know, a little of this during the day. A little of that during the night". Just don't be specific and they fill in the blanks with their own fantasies. Had a co-worker randomly state "Anon, you look like you drive a motorcycle. Like I can picture you riding one and wearing the leather jacket. Do you have a motorcycle?" If you're hot, women are already writing you in their mental romantic novel as whatever their ideal man is.
Suckling on a guy's chest.
>>220060677I'm exactly 6ft without shoes but I just tell women I'm 6ft1 because I'm usually always wearing shoes around women so I technically am 6ft1 when they ask. Plus women aren't exactly perceptive so I could probably say I'm 6ft3 and some shorter women would probably still believe it since I'm 6ft
>>220055532Yes but it's other gymbros touching and complimenting you, women don't like big muscles, they want shredded toned guys or dad bod guys.
>>220055799Pecs are homo coded, what you want is just developed shoulders
>>220055584>short>small hands and forearms>narrow shouldersI don't even bother
>>220060804How is one meant to be vague with an intimate partner? By 'vague' do you actually mean 'hide things' and 'lie'?>If you're hotAnd if you're not?
>>220060910>dad bodWomen actually find fat men attractive?
>>220060950take care of yourself because it is YOU.Do it for YOUrself.
>>220061040There's another off-shoot of it called 'ogre' mode, too.
>>220061020The question wasn't about intimate partners. The question was about women who don't know you and how to deal with coming off as interesting when you are actually not confident or live a particularly exciting lifestyle. Also, I never said to lie, I said to be vague. What do you think would sound better to a woman, that I am going to go hang out with my nerd friends and play video games and get drunk? Or if I said I'm going to gets some drinks with a few buddies and see what kind of fun we can get up to? Both are true statements, but one answer will sound better to a woman.
>>220055715Dumb ESL
>>220061177>The question wasn't about intimate partners.We are talking about incels. Intimate partners and the lack thereof is implied.>What do you think would sound better to a woman, that I am going to go hang out with my nerd friends and play video games and get drunk? Or if I said I'm going to gets some drinks with a few buddies and see what kind of fun we can get up to? Both are true statementsNot for me. I don't have any friends, nerd or otherwise, with which to hang out and/or drink alcohol.
>>220055532It is, I got into barbell strength training and after a few years of it while not caring about the bodybuilder look I had girls ogling my stomach regularly. Some of them will unabashedly rub/touch/grope if they can. Also had girls quivering at the knees and like melting in front of you which was awkward after a life of never experiencing this. Some middle aged women will have panic attacks in front of you, like theyre gasping for air and start getting hiccups just because you are in their presence. Girls working a counter in a store will fight each other over who gets to be the one that serves when its your turn to checkout.Doesn't have to be the bodybuilder looksmax physique w/ a pretty face either. Ogre mode or kyriakos grizzly strongman look works fine. I learned that it's a lot about posture. Head straight up, wide open chest, your stomach way out there, and if your lumbar is such that your shirt will automatically tuck itself into your waistband on the back, girls will just start following you around. The bodybuilder/looksmax physique like the Steve Rogers image, with the shoulder focused physique (V shaped lats etc) have miniscule cores & hips and don't actually have the posture I'm talking about. Women notice subtle & small differences in huge amounts in this regard. If you have a pretty face you can go with the bodybuilder physique I guess, otherwise just get a big strong core & hips, do overhead press work and you'll have the posture that throws them off.
>>220061272OR It sounds like you are very specific in who you choose to include into your personal life.
>>220061040women's definition of "dad bod" is Henry Cavill without abs
>>220061324that sounds awesome. wish i could experience that
>>220061332No, I meant, I literally know no one outside my immediate family.
>>220061332kek
>>220061324What really built me up, especially my back, back of the shoulders, was when I started planting potatoes by hand. It's a lot of exhaustive digging, done by hand. If it's a big enough patch that's a lot of work and it's two birds, one stone. Grow your own food, get strong. It's twofold healthy. Kennebec is an excellent variety.
>>220061366Do this 3-5 years without skipping days or taking breaks. For the first 8-16 months focus intensely on form & technique. After that it's basically autopilot and the only challenge is NEVER skipping a day
>>220061040dad bod = jason momoa on vacation
>>220061652oh wow, that's awesome. How many inches will I grow? I want to grow over a foot taller. Maybe 6'4. And my chin will get really wide too and my dick will be like a footlong. This will be great.
>>220061635outdoor field work is great. My introduction to real strength as a youth was witnessing a farmer woman rip an old tree root out of the ground by hand. She was wrenching backwards on it like sailors working a line like on a boat from Master & Commander. It was basically deadlifting but the bar starts in the dirt instead of at shin level
>>220056598Why are there so many married-fags on /tv/? Why are men still dumb enough to legally blind themselves to a woman?
>>220061869The loneliness gets to you.
>>220061869More like you're dumb for not doing it. Just sleeping around, never building a worthwhile thing in your life. Everything meaningless. All time wasted, never investing in growth or the future. When you could have a long term wife, loyal and supportive, building a lasting family that will outlive you and take care of you when you're eventually too old to support yourself. Having someone aside from family give a shit about you, with years of history, instead of always fleeting superficial people in your life.
>>220061911Get a dog or find a FWB. Permanently living with a woman will ruin your mental health.>>220061950Normies leave
>>220061950>a long term wife, loyal and supportiveThose exist?
>>220061402You know what? Yeah, say that instead.
>>220055532yes, if a woman of a certain type finds out you have solid muscle definition she will want to fondle you and will call over her friends. unfortunately it makes you feel like a man whore when you have women around you all giggling and laughing while only a few degrees away from openly molesting you.
>>220062040>Unfortunately all these women touching me makes me feel like a man whoreYou sexhavers and normies really have the toughest battles, godspeed, bro.
>>220060244What did Joe Simon mean by this?
>I identify as an alpha male. If you don't view me as tall, with lots of muscles, and soaking your pussy, you're betaphobic.
>>220060866>>220060262>Exact same weight with defined chest, shoulder and arms with faint abs.>Exact same height.>Have never been flirted on.Damn. I guess I'm really just that ugly, huh? wew gg.
>>220062013OK. I'll take that as your acknowledgement of the shortcomings of your initial assertion.
Yes if you’re also white and attractive
>>220061869Because there are dumb users like you that believe bullshit stories like that one. The chances that he is lying are very big, why do you believe him without any proof. I had sex once with Jenna Ortega once, before she was famous, I actually did, but no one believes me. Do you believe me?
>>220061869Dude, he's most likely lying on the internet. This is 4chan.
>>220062543>I had sex once with 3/10 onceOh wow, that's unbelievable, I don't think that ever happens to anyone.
>>220055576
>>220062282You've already shown a lack of any effort in yourself and your posts suggest you are accepting of your life's situation and unwillingness to even try something as simple as different phrasing. >ha you loseI sure did
>>220055532Reminder that Hayley Atwell was pleasantly plump in her Captain America/Agent Carter era
>>220057361I'd be excited if superhero roids seemed like they'd be at the soda shop in six months
>>220063068I didn't say you lose. I presumed your sarcasm-laden non response was your making your exit from the discussion. Since you're now back, I will continue where we left off: what phrasing would you advise for a man who does not have friends to hang out and drink with?
>>220055783Anon, that wasn't just her unique way of flirting. I would say a majority of females use this as a way to flirt with men. If they like you they'll look for opportunities to bump into you or brush up against you. Women aren't just clumsy, they know what they're doing when they lean against you. My wife did this with me when we first met. I'm an important guy in my career field now and I have women at work do this to me where they didn't in the past. If you're an autist like me you have to keep these "social signal" rules in your mind to realize what's going on, because girls are never forthcoming about what they want. Looking back to when I was a young man with my knowledge now, I know I was oblivious to girls coming onto me when they rubbed up against me like a damn purring cat. Not intuitively understanding this shit is life on hard mode.
>>220062121I'm just telling you the reality isn't the same as it goes in your head. if you're still young it doesn't take as much effort to get into decent shape as most people think it will and you can then go to house parties and have drunken groups of women grope you and report back to us on it.
>>220060950Working out will still make your quality of life better so you should do it regardless even if you are an unfuckable cretin
>>220055783what >>220063391 said, women finding excuses to touch a dude they find attractive is female flirting 101. I know because it unironically happens to me constantly. It's actually somewhat annoying because I have a girlfriend which I am very vocal about. I'd argue women are actually just as bad as men when it comes to touching dudes, it's just that with men you have a small minority of men who fuly grope/assault women whilst the rest do nothing, and with women you have a large number who just "brush up" against men but don't go much further.
was chimsworth or whatever this guys name is on gear for this scene?
>>220063665No bro, just pushups before bed and glass of milk.
>>220063665all halo effect bro
>>220055532Just tell girls you have a 10" penis and see what happens
>>220063391This guy gets it.They'll do stuff like laugh but reach out and grope the fuck out of your shoulder, or fall into you and plant a hand on your pec as they right themselves.I just thought this was a normal interaction, only realized this was a thing once I got chubby dadmode, and suddenly most females are a lot less clumsy and make a lot more eye contact.Always thought it was unfair that I couldn't just feel her tits -- but now I'm realizing I probably just could have and gotten away with it. Ah well.
>>220055532No, women want to find opportunities to talk to you, and you can let them, but they'll never do anything like this.Maybe if they're drunk around you they'll be a bit flirty, but in general, a realistic depiction would be that they wanna sit near you, find reasons for you to talk to them.It's like dropping a kerchief, so that you can return it, giving them an opportunity to talk to you.
>>220063903Nope, this unironically used to happen to me, long time ago>women want to talk to youReddit bullshit.
>followed 4chan's advice and worked on his pecs>hey baby, which one of us do you prefer? *flexes* I already know it's me
>>220063518Can confirm. I am an unfuckable cretin but lift weights anyway for my physical and mental health. Feels good.
>>220060711I can't do everything for you bitch
>>220062208I disgust and creep out women. Some of us are just doomed from the start.
>>220060950exercising fixes the latter two problems and if you're a manlet with short forearms you can generally lift heavier (with respect to bw) than bigger or longer guys
>>220055532ask gym manlets
>>220064208left got pecsright got moobs..dude got CUPS
>>220063903>Women want to talk to youOk ok you got me to reply, ha ha, very funny
>>220055532No. It's gay af. Men don't have tits, women won't see your pecs like that and would probably desire you'd be leaner & meaner.These movies sell homosex to little boys
>>220055576for me it's people who film something and point their fucking finger at the thing they're pointing their phone at
>>220064886Anon, if you're serious about this and actually want to work on this, you can get help. CBT or DBT therapy would be helpful for you. I would honestly recommend finding a male therapist as they're generally more competent on average. Some female therapists are good but the number of batshit witchy looks is way too high. If you're religious at all, I would recommend finding a male therapist who incorporates that into their practice. A competent therapist will help you practice talking and get you working to improve yourself, which will make you a lot less off-putting to women. You actually have to put in some work with this though. That's what the incels and looksmaxxxers never understand. You can't speedrush this, bonessmash your way through this or plastic surgery your way out of it. You need to work towards being a happier more confident person. Psychiatric medications can help, too. That's the part I'm involved in. I have seen guys turn their lives around but it takes effort. You don't have to die miserable and alone, though. This shit does work, despite what naysaying schizos on here rant about.
>>220065548>women won't see your pecs like that and would probably desire you'd be leaner & meaner.Nuclear levels of cope.
>>220055532He is also tall, has a wide frame, a handsome face and his muscles are shaped aesthetically (that's not a given). If Danny DeVito had gotten into bodybuilding in his prime he would still not get that reaction. Everyone is born with a range of attractiveness and you can work towards becoming the most attractive version of yourself, but Quasimodo can lift as many weights as he wants, he will still have to kidnap a girl and lock her in his bell tower to hook up with her.
>>220062593Shut up, faggot. Jenna is insanely beautiful, anyone who denies that is a known homossexual. There's no problem in being gay, it's totally fine, and your life will improve a lot once you get ouf of the closet, just do it dude.
>>220065860they dont do it because they like it and think it looks cool. its just that you have to do it with the way youtube works now.
>>220065118Even H.P Lovecraft managed to get laid. Do you guys know why? Because he had something in common with the girls he fucked. Literature, writing , that was his common ground with the girls he fucked.You're not gonna approach a girl in the streets and expect her to start falling for you instantly, it doesn't work like that. You need to be in a work place, in a classroom, in college, in university. You need to have a common subject, a common place of meeting, and mutual goals and interests. Mutual goals are much more important actually. That's the reason why you see fat, ugly, bald men , dating beautiful girls. Because they share the same interests and goals.
>>220067110the easiest literal cheatcode is to find someone with decent chemistry and just simply ask her tons of questions about herself. it is so painfully easy unless you are literally chris chan tier autistic, but thats really most of what you gotta do and women love that. just ask questions and really listen and she'll love that.
>>220063903>Women would never do thisThe actress is on record that this was a completely unconscious gesture on her part. Not in the script. Not something she chose to do. It was just the first time she'd seen him shirtless and she just couldn't help herself.All. Women. Are. Whores. The rest is a pretense meant to entrap you.
>>220067110> H.P Lovecraft> the girls he fuckedhe wouldn't be named LoveCRAFT if he didn't know the ins and outs of lovemaxxing
>>220059948Roid trannies should be shunned, but at least it's functional retardation. They'll get winded in 20 seconds, but you can have them heave something heavy for you.
>>220055823>not specifying pectoralis majorngmi
women prefer dad bods these days
Hey guys how many plates should I spin while holding frame so I don't get mogged by hepta-elder god Chad?
>>220060950Getting fat or really bulked up will fix the last two issues
>>220067299He was a master of his craft, indeed!
>>220067443Gross
>>220063135There's also an anon here who's squirted into her and proved it with photos.
>>220066959>Jenna is insanely 3/10The length you female brained simps will go to defend trash just because it is semi-famous on TV screen is hillarious.
>>220067187That's absolutely correct.
>And you know what? Hey, just remember to be yourself, dude.>Worst she can say is 'no', right?
>>220068056I'm sorry for calling you a faggot. But Jenna is really good looking, I will not get convinced of the opposite.
>>220064208How the fuck do you even train to get shit like that? He has ZERO delts, like he somehow managed to isolate chest 100%.
It's kind of like this
>>220069795unfortunate fat deposits, nature is just cruel like that
>>220069994>if you can pick me up, you can plap my thick cheeks! Do you accept the challenge?
>>220070185>>220069795He likely has actual gynocomastia plus excess overall bodyfat. The left guy is really on steroids. And he eventually lost all that muscle
>>220055532yes. i got tendinitis in my shoulder so i've been focusing on lower body over the winter. this girl i matched with was giving me a bj. i was standing up and she kept grabbing, squeezing and slapping my ass while she sucked me off. it seemed to get her more into it. just having muscles is easy mode in sex,
>>220055836Ive seen plenty of ugly skinnyfat bastards with girlfriends
>>220061950>you could have a long term wife, loyal and supportiveyou must be zonked out of your fucking mind rn, anon
>>220055532Lifting for women is a meme
Is pic related a good natty goal physique? How long would it take me to look like this starting as a skinny guy?
>>220066334>you are fuck ugly? cock and ball torture is the treatment for you!
>>220071118Yes, I too hear about these statistical outliers.
>>220055576Red Circles > Yellow Arrows
>>220055532Yes but the people touching you will be men.
Why would a man want to touch another man??
>>220067443is that a roid gut? why would anyone roid for THIS?
>>220055532I've seen a girl behave like that around a muscled dude. she was finding any excuse to have body contact with him.
>>220055532I mean she knew what he looked like prior so obviously the change merited her attention. Steve was a fucking pencil.
>>220067443>Visible abs through all that fatJesus Christ that dude is a tank.
>>220072815>visible adslmao how fat are you
>>220072240Nothing wrong with men wanting to touch their bros. That's one of the most masculine things even. Guys wrestle with each other all the time, hang on their friends, give each other headlocks. Only queers think everything is sexual.
