>AND THIS... IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER... BEYOND! >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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>>220071482>get home from school>turn this on>he's still AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-'ing from the last episode
Super is noncanon. The true canon is DB>Z>GT>AF.
>>220072102Goku Blanco jajajaja
>>220072080I unironically quit watching this show as a kid when he was fighting frieza because I turned it on every day for a week and fucking nothing happened.
>>220072102Gt isn't canon
>>220072597I remember watching the majin buu saga for like a year and then when it seemed like it was almost ending it just restarted from the beginning and I gave up
>>220071482I'll show you something impressive.What you're seeing right now are singles.
>>220072734Try it. You won't get dubs.
>>220072734He's bluffing. He can't possibly get anything more than singles.
>>220072734And these are doubles.
>>220072842
>>220072734>>220072842Pathetic! I'll show you how the Prince of Saiyans gets doubles!!
>>220072921
>>220072597T-20 episodes until Namek finally explodes
>>220072842>Gets angry and surpasses everyone
>>220072597I started watching the Spanish broadcast in the morning because they were already fighting Frieza lol
>>220072734>>220072965Anyone looking for these dubs?
>>220073096I'll help you master.
Its been my plan all along to get these dubs.
SHARE YOUR DBZ WISHLIST!> The upcoming 3rd (?) retelling of Battle of Gods is fucking cancelled.> We gets some spin off movies set in various pre-Super points in the franchise timeline (ideally focused on characters besides Goku), these are loose continuity like the old DBZ films.> - Vegeta (teamed with future Trunks) going SS2 for the first time (between the Cell & Buu sagas) against a original foe.> - Another Bojack Unbound era film with young SS2 Gohan as lead.> - Film focused on Mystic Gohan after the end of the original DBZ (he should have been the star of Wrath of the Dragon)> - Vegeta going SS3 after the end of the original DBZ.> - Film set in the Future Trunks timeline after he kills Cell.> Tone is notably more serious than Super. Go back to the mad science, cosmic mystery & mysticism vibes of the early DBZ movies.> Do not use the 3D animation from DBS-Super Hero.> The original 1993 Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans OVA is given a HQ release & official dub.> The Dragon Ball Heroes anime is given a official dub. I specifically care about the stuff with MetaCooler vs Cumber & Golden Cooler.> The GT score is finally fucking released.
>>220073466Beerus enters and snaps Vegeta's neck
>>220071482Go back to /a/
>>220073466I just want XV3 to be good.
Do you think they regretted having this in a movie?
>>220072080kek
>>220073466I just want Toyotaro to finish the manga
>>220073961Is Black Freeza really a threat? Wouldn't he easily get BTFO by Ultra Instinct Ego Gogeta?
>>220074056It's hard to say. Black Freeza was able to one shot both of them at the same time at the peak of their power, but now Beast Gohan and Broly should be able to level up beyond both Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta hates fusion and will not want to do it again. There's also no reason to think Freeza won't continue training.What I think is most likely to happen is that Black Freeza will have our guys on the ropes, but some new threat will emerge which will force them into a shaky alliance once again.
>>220074130>but some new threat will emerge which will force them into a shaky alliance once again.That threat? Golden Jiren.
>>220074151Could be. It might be Beerus intervening while Vegeta and Freeza have a struggle over who will become the next god of destruction. Who knows? Toyotaro.
>>220074130>>220074151>Black Freeza was able to one shot both of them at the same time at the peak of their powerIn their defense, they were both tired and injured after fighting Granola and Gas.The current power levels are very confusing. Is Beerus even more powerful than them? We know that Beerus lost in an arm wrestling contest to Belmod, so then even if Beerus is stronger than Belmod, the difference can't be that big. We know that Jiren was stronger than Belmod. We know that Jiren lost to Ultra Instinct Goku, and while he was tired towards the end we had Goku and Vegeta both comment that the difference between them and Jiren wasn't that big.So how is Beerus more powerful than Ultra Instinct Ego Gogeta, considering the absurd multiplier that the fusion gives them? At this point Beerus should be weaker than Black Freeza who should be weaker than Gogeta.
>>220074226>who will become the next god of destruction
>>220074383I don't even know man. It's like you said, the scaling is all over the place.
>>220073466All I wanted was some backstory of the creation of Buu and also planets full of frieza race, its a shame the original dbz movies werent 90 minutes
>>220072072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSKmCucCH4
>>220072965>>220072842Monkeys
>>220074692Are Saiyans really monkeys? I figure they're great apes like us puny humans.
>>220072842No, this is true doubles.
>>220072134Hahahaha kek
>>220073466Spin-off about unrelated unpowered having adventure around the world, can be in the past so you can make it about a quest for the dragon ballYou can have tournament, make it more about martial art and less AAAAAAHAAAHAHAHA THIS IS MY NEW FROM SUPER SAIYAN OMEGA GIGA MAJIN POWERED POTENTIAL GOD
>>220077453What kind of retard am IJust make it about Kame Sennin young year
>>220077453If it's not about Goku/Vegeta, it's not Dragon Ball
>>220074580There are no more threats left to write with god of destruction tier being a hard ceiling. Frieza is pointless, he will come back forever unless zeno erases him
>>220072102GT = Gay Trash
>>220072102GT = Golden Treasure
>>220077549So Gohan vs Cell wasn't dragon ball ?
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>>220071482Good damng times.
>>220071482>No stop it goyku! If you do this now it will drain away all the time you have left on earth! And I say you need every second of it as it is!
>yeehaw ride em cowboy
>>220078302Frieza was so cruel, it was awesome
>>220072597Now imagine you were watching it weekly
>>220078345
>>220073466The return of toyotaros canon manga
>>220077453Give me the story of the people of the pirate base that built the pirate robot
>>220072072>>220074676Fucking Based.Bojack Unbound is underrated AF and IMO is the 2nd best film after Wrath of the Dragon.
>>220078769Also fucking based.
>>220072134There's an episode of the Justice League cartoon where Superman is fighting an evil version of himself from another dimension.He manages to defeat the evil Superman because evil Superman always killed his enemies in the most efficient way possible. But good Superman took the hard path. His enemies survived to challenge him again and again, and the fights were harder because he always restrained himself.Goku is doing the same thing. By fighting his opponents at their best he pushes himself to become stronger. If he always took the easy way out he wouldn't be strong enough to face the next threat.
>>220071482>VEGETA STOP FIGHTING AND GET DOWN HERE AND SUCK MY TOES RIGHT NOW!
>>220072102>AF???
>>220072102Uh, Ultra Instinct is a better form than SSJ5.
>>220079728Only works when plot armor in play
>Click on /tv/ for the first time in years out of boredom>See that /dbs/ has invaded this board tooUnbelievable
>>220080420No, /tv/ actually talks about Dragon Ball instead of characterfagging and spouting the same 8 year old spic memes every thread.
>>220080420Big difference between this and>Bejita bejitabros bejitaburros burritobros vagitahoes etc
>>220081074>>220081127
>>220072134
Not a single dub in this whole thread
>>220081198wrong. see >>220073466
>>220081198subs over dubs, filthy casual
>>220073961>Trusting the ratman
>>220072080>>220072597Z was 75% filler, just watch Kai.
>>220081398Z's filler is kino though
>>220081488Actual original content is decent, most of the filler is just the show outstreching canon moments with talking, squaring up and screaming.
>>220081816Fair enough, but a lot of those extended fights also added great scenes and sequences which the manga did not have and were better for it.
>>220081816Or random cutaways to the side characters watching the fight on TV or something.
For me, it's the Namek saga (before Ginyu). It's the most fun saga that has all the cool space travel stuff and exploration and discovery themes as opposed to just fighting le bad guy.
>>220073466>Goten and Trunks not being a comedic duo for once>they train on different paths>Trunks being the more level headed one, trains to attain SSJ2, SSG and SSB >Goten being the goofball, continues refining SSJ3 and attains SSJ4>during Fusion they attain SSJ5 which can be achieved with at least one having God Ki
>>220083437doesnt having different ki fuck up fusion or is that a potara thing
>>220084020It's the fusion dance where they have to be careful to match each other's ki. There's never been a botched potara fusion afaik
>>220074056>Ultra Instinct: you can't hit me>Ultra Ego: hit me, it makes me stronger>Ultra Fusion: you can't hit me, but if you do, it makes me stronger frieza is done
>>220084622>There's never been a botched potara fusion afaikwhat happened to this fuck then?
>>220084735>majestic attire susanoo shen long with totsuka instinct and yata ego>blindfolded with both arms and legs cut off and heart virus>betrayed and trapped in hyperbolic time chamber for 1000 yearsmadara doesn't stand a chance
>>220084779that's after he got half his body blasted off.
>>220084020ah fuck, I forgot about that
>>220072597>this for months >finally cell saga>show is cancelled because some actually retarded kid kys himself jumping out of a window calling for the nimbus the 90s were wild over here
>>220071482Embarrassing slop for children that never grew up.Odd that you idolize this "masculine hero" and then took zero risks in your own life and now sit there alone and virginal wasting away the last remaining usable years of your life.
>>220081198I wish Gohan had just continued leveling up his mystic shit instead of just another transformation.
Not impressed.
We must cull the weak from our numbers. We will not rest until only dubs will remain
Broly solos.
>>220086428tell me this is real
>>220071482Toriama forgot super sayjan 2 existed and thought he was making SSJ2 right here
>>220072597i cant believe people actually miss this era of 400 episode shonens where nothing happens 95% of the time
>>220087562Isn't One Piece still going at like 1200+ episodes with no end in sight?
>>220087585that show is also from that era it just never ended
>>220087562Our generation had attention span and imagination. We didn't rely on 20 cuts in a 15 second tiktok
>>220087722no wonder uncs are developing alzheimees so early they grew up watching dragonball z
The Peak of Television its a shame that Dragon Ball Super is a terrible fanfiction Dragon Ball ended in GT Dragon Ball is the only good Anime
>>220073466>Third attempt to salvage DB Super when the plot/writing is the problem
>>220071482Why did he do it ?
>>220072134>When Vegeta does it he's a le bad guy retard>When Vegeta doesn't fuck around and brutally slaughters Frieza's Merc squad sent to butcher Goku's 6 year old son he's also le bad guy evil dumbassWOOOOW BUGGED FUCKING MECHANICS HOW IS THAT FAIRAlthough I will say, I never got over him killing Nappa, that was ice-cold even for him
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>>220072102On db and dbz matter. Everything else was garbage.
>>220088910This
>>220079728Meanwhile in reality, doing something efficiently makes you even better at it.
>>220086423>>220086540>dude weaker than raditz>not impressedLmao
>>220090977Killing ants efficiently doesn’t prepare you to fight a tiger.
>>220092059Neither does struggling with ants. If anything that just makes you pathetic.
>>220092132So it’s an iq barrier thing again. Got it. Strength training is quite literally doing things close the least efficient manner possible so meaningful tasks can be accomplished with less effort.
>>220092213>if you struggle with ants you train yourself to beat a tigerYeah, it sounds like an IQ thing to me.\>Strength training is quite literally doing things close the least efficient manner possible That's not true at all. Strength training is exceptionally efficient for building muscle, they don't do crossfit they lift weights in specific patterns.
>>220092248Killing in the most efficient manner possible would be to super power strength training what just putting the weight on a shelf once and leaving it there is to actual strength training.But you did have breakfast this morning, right?
>>220092315Except you likened them to ants. That level of "strength training" would be the equivalent of doing a single 2.5kg bicep curl once a week.If they weren't ants, and they were strong enough to cause him to improve, then being more efficient at killing them would be more useful training than struggling with them.Trying to pretend that I'm black for pointing out your retardation is funny though.
check this doubles
>>220092392To Superman, pretty much everything else is an ant yes. But people of your IQ range have intense trouble mapping concepts like this.
>>220092585So then you agree then that struggling against those ants is a waste of time and would provide no training benefit.For someone talking about IQ you sure seem to struggle with literacy.
>>220092688If the ants learned and got more creative over repeated conflicts that didn’t end with you just murdering them, yeah. Feel free to prove once again this is beyond your mental capacity.
>>220092894No they'd still end up being ants.Besides, if anything killing them would make them improve faster through survival instinct alone.
>>220092688>>220092248Struggling is what training is. You get strong by doing 15-20 reps (less efficient) as opposed to 1 extremely heavy rep (most efficient). If individually killing 1,000 ants make you struggle and exhausts you by the end of the day then it's training that will make you stronger. But that's not what Goku does. He focuses on the strongest known enemies in the universe, which is the opposite of ants. He lets them live after initial fights and reach their final form because he wants to fight their strongest version, not the equivalent of an ant.
>>220093035Training requires struggle to improve, struggle requires not reducing yourself to the level of an ant. If anything, evil Superman's fighting against himself to improve his killing efficiency. Imagine arm wrestling children and pretending to be weak while you do it, would it help you arm wrestle them? No.And yes Goku does fight the strong but we're discussing Superman and his evil twin who apparently killed people instead.
>>220092978>but I did have breakfast You are to an ant what superman is to not-Superman, in terms of strength.You are to me what a gibbon is to you.
>>220071482>SS2 built for for years as a Gohan exclusive form given it's his rage boost combined with SS>Lol Goku gets it because reasons>Lol Bejita gets it because BabidiToriyama absolutely killed Gohan bros
>>220073466>SHARE YOUR DBZ WISHLISTSuper cancelled.Daima made non canon.An actual sequel that continues beyond EoZ and doesn't have retarded shit like Beerus, Gods, Galactic Patrol, etc
>>220073466>Vegeta going SS3 after the end of the original DBZShouldn't he go SS2 first?
>>220093102>reeee stop btfoing me, you're black you're black1!!!I'm not, and you're still btfo.
>>220073904Unironically better than the SS we got
>>220093133Toriyama's last words were to confirm that Gohan is the most powerful fighter in the franchise.
>>220093196He was SSJ2 after selling his soul to Babidi. He also got SSJ3 in the Daima anime.
>>220093221Goku bros...the surrogate father Piccolo theory is no longer a theory...I kneel
>>220093247Has he been shown to actually unlock it without Babidi's magic? He spends the Kid Buu fight in SS.
>>220080420/tv/ gets on and off dragon ball threads for like 15 years
>>220093221That's only because he died. Had he lived for a few more months, he would've said Goku/Vegeta is the strongest again.
>>220093096>reducing yourself to the level of an ant.If you're killing 1,000 ants then you're not at the level of an ant. >. Imagine arm wrestling children and pretending to be weak while you do it, would it help you arm wrestle them? Yes, if you arm wrestle hundreds of them while not immediately defeating them your arm will experience lots of isometric exercise. It will get sore and be stronger in a few days.
>>220093261He was in SSJ2.https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Vegeta_Puts_His_Life_on_the_Line!
>>220093448>If you're killing 1,000 ants then you're not at the level of an ant.But you are good at killing and that's a transferable skill, it's challenging yourself to become more efficient at something.Fighting 1000 ants like an ant when you're a human isn't.>Yes, if you arm wrestle hundreds of them while not immediately defeating them your arm will experience lots of isometric exercise. It will get sore and be stronger in a few days.And to continue the analogy, immediately defeating them in the fastest way you can would be even better exercise. Instead of gently rotating your arm you're slamming it with the full force of your body and you're learning about what your body can do to improve upon it. Of course, it's a bit morbid because of the analogy but you get the point.
>>220072597you are like a babyhere they showed the previous episode before the new epand i watched both every time
>>220093096Superman doesn't JUST fight low-tier enemies though, he regularly fights people who pose planetary threats or bigger - he could immediately kill them too, but by not doing so, he has to expend more effort in the fightIt's more like if you're trying to become a better boxer and you pick out two options:>Train by having boxing matches with other boxers who are within a reasonable skill gap of yourselfor>Train by having boxing matches with other boxers, but your gloves are actually solid metal and you start by smashing the back of their head in while they're talking to the coach in the corner pre-fightYeah, in both circumstances you beat your opponent, but the second option doesn't make you a better fighterWhen we're talking about superpower shit like Superman or Goku, then yes, being non-lethal will drastically improve his control over his own power - so even if EvilSuperman and GoodSuperman are both the exact same power level, GoodSuperman knows his own powers better than EvilSuperman, since GoodSuperman has stretched them moreIt's also why we regularly see episodes of both DBZ and Superman/Justice League where the characters purposely train in weakened states; because they know sheer power alone may not be enough one day
>>220093546Superman doesn't improve his eye laser by showing up to a bank robbery and cutting the robbers in half with it, he improves by honing the power and precision of the laser to break the bags they're carrying without damaging the contents (or the persons carrying them, or any bystanders) since it's by holding back that he's expending a lot more effort
>>220072597>watch for days, nothing happens>seems like something big might actually happen next time>network starts rerunning earlier shit
>>220093658>he regularly fights people who pose planetary threats or biggerAnd we're assuming his evil twin has killed those people.>>220093717Understanding yourself is improvement.
>>220073904Why would they regret this? Looks kino.
>>220087562>>220087585>>220093627>>220072597>>220093733fucking bleach, for like the maybe 12 or so episodes I watched of it, was even fucking worse with the nothing ever happens shit. not that DBZ wasn't fucking terrible with nothing happening, but bleach manages to be even worse
>>220094138Is One Piece good? Is it even close to ending?
>>220094155I've never watched one piece. I watched DBZ and nothing ever happened and I remember watching like maybe 12 episodes of bleech where nothing ever happened
>>220071482Everytime I'm taking a hard dump, the kind that won't come out easily, I role play as a Goku and just start aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>220072072>https://strawpoll.com/3RnYXaN9pyeThe 5 retards who voted for Cell Max should be executed for their shittier tastes.
>>220071482>>220072842what if goku did this and instead just shit his pants then the villain laughed?
>>220094933I liked Gohan using the Makankōsappō for the first time, and I liked Gamma 1 and Gamma 2.
>>220095044Doesn't change that fact that Cell Max is a retarded idea.
>>220095044I hated how they had him drop the ma-sako-ha for the Kamehameha
>>220072080>>220072597My friend is trying to get me into DBZ and I'm seriously considering switching to the manga because it takes forever for anything to happen. Goku's childhood was much more enjoyable to watch. I'm still at the Namek part and it moves like molasses.
>>220072842Like this?
>>220095929That was Gohan's coolest look.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpfz1uan4Rs
>>220096545Bump
>>220095517Watch the original DBZ movies.
>>220089076it's a common complaint that Goku is a shortsighted retard. does anyone actually fault Vegeta for killing the Ginyu Force?
