At what point does it stop being kino >inb4 the first Iron Man No I think at one point this shit was good. Everyone liked Winter Soldier and Civil War. But what point does it clearly become lower than a blockbuster?
>>220088066>inb4 iron man No, but that is quite literally the answer. Captain America the First Avenger and Iron Man are the only good ones. Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are also really good however the latter suffers from being attached to the rest of the MCU.
>>220088066There exists a grand total of 3 passable superhero films, and none of them take place in the Marvel cinematic universe.Sorry, OP. It's all slop and always has been.
When it's starts being <character> 2 / <character>: <x>
>>220088066>>220088184>Civil Wari thought you fags hated civil war
Infinity war was the last time they actually tried. Endgame was marred by the retarded, lazy time travel fix and everything after that has been offensively bad slop
>>220088845Clearly you are in hater mode, which makes objective criticism impossible. There was good stuff before Endgame.
>>220088066After Infinity War.
>>220088926There were many retarded moments in the movie. But when only Bucky, Rogers and/or Tony were on screen it was kino
>>220088066At what point does it stop being kino After End Game, obviously.
Childhood is idolizing Iron ManAdulthood is realizing Iron Man 2 makes more sense
How to fix the MCU>Big Tits>More Daredevil>Recast She-Hulk and make her hotter>Captain Marvel death scene>White redhead Mary Jane>Nick Cage Ghost Rider>Wesley Snipes Blade>Ryan Gosling Black Panther>Gordon Bombay>Diego from Ice Age
It had a couple decent movies but it was never consistently good. Thor was already a pretty bad movie. The first Captain America was already a pretty bad movie. The closest to a decent run it had was between Civil War and Endgame.
The MidCU had a 4 year run where almost everything outpaced an overall downward trend. Even Endgame came after the streak was already over, and a lot of what came before that streak was mediocre. That green box was the glory days that made it the ubiquitous cultural phenomenon it was.
>>220089259End Game sucks because captain marvel is in it
>>220088184>Civil War>really good
>>220088066Before Civil War.
Probably around Captain Marvel/Dr Strange. It became apparent then they were gonna give all the C-List heroes boring origin stories with throwaway antagonists.
>>220088066I dont like any of the avengers movies. I only cared for Iron man 1 and the gotg trilogy.
>>220088184Captain America was when I stopped watching them, noticing it was the same exact movie each time
>>220088845Tell me what you think those three are and I'll tell you what race you are.
>Doctor Strange>ThunderboltsReally the only two I could ever see myself rewatching. Shame the latter is marred by needing like a thousand fucking hours of shit to know who the hell everybody is. It really should've been a miniseries in its own right, with one episode dedicated to re-establishing each character and then the final two being the movie proper.
>>220089866>Thunderbolts>rewatchDid we watch the same movie? Cucumber cucumber cucumber; why the fuck would you ever want to rewatch that???
>>220089259Despite the flaws, it was kino. Yeah, Infinity War was better, I do agree for sure. But it obviously loses out because of the big battle in Endgame that surpasses all expectations.
Its consistency hit the bricks after Infinity War. That said, Florence Pugh's dodgy Russian impersonation makes my willy happy.
Everything after Endgame.
>>220088066Disney ruined Marvel
>>220088066Iron Man 1 was the best one.Avengers 1 was the last decent one.Anything after that is shit
>>220089085id on the ring?ive been thinking about Stane maxxing lately but i need the full fit to do it
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being movie
This has generally been my experience with these films over time. I can't even be bothered to list those fucking D+ shows. They're mostly crap. Netflix Daredevil completely mogs them all. I also think the success of Black Panther and Captain Marvel did a lot more damage than most are prepared to admit.
>>220089598iron man 2 is an odd one because i remember loving it when it came out, about on par with 1 but re-watching it today and its not even close.the second half of the film and the entirety of 3 feel like "fake movies"like those fake games in film and tv that are made just for the project and that you recognise as games but when you really focus on them dont make any sense at all.
>>220088066The first bad movie was Avengers 2 Age of Ultron. The last good movie was Civil War. Really after Guardians of the Galaxy was when they started to take the premise less seriously, and the movies severely deteriorated with Whedon-tier writing and characterization.
>>220088184>Captain America the First AvengerNone of his movies are good.
>>220088926Civil War suffered from getting turned into an Avengers film.
>>220088066I liked Thunderbolts for what it was, it ended up pretty fun. But the core of Iron Man, Captain America, and Winter Soldier are the best trio.Civil War was bad. Not godawful like some of the subsequent movies, but I cannot take the fucking airport fight seriously no matter what. Standalone things like Moon Knight and Werewolf by Night were okay.
>>220091909>Netflix DaredevilYah, I really need to do a rewatch of this, and get caught up.
Less stinkers before Endgame, more stinkers after Endgame, but even if some of the were decent they still feel useless. Also the timeline bs is just the worst. What they should've done is to make movies of their best backlog stories, or start another series with stories that have potential to be good but were so-so in their comics run, like The X-cutioners Song.
Iron Man 1, AntMan, and Infinity War are the only Marvel films I genuinely liked.
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being kinoit was never nonstop kino, some movies were shit even from the startafter Infinity War is when the kino completely dried upexcept for nostalgia wank spiderman which was ok
>>220088066Kino? Hard to say. But after Endgame was when the quality started to vary wildly enough that even fanboys went from gotta watch it all, to skipping most of it. Didn't help that the D+ side of things was churning out crap that almost nobody liked.
After infinity war. Not saying endgame is bad (though i prefer infinity war over it) BUT ant man and the wasp alongside captain marvel were back to back flops (not financially because people were still invested in the mcu) and that was an important time since all of the attention was there. Then after endgame and far from home (both movies could be considered exceptions because spidey is huge and endgame is a massive team up film) the mcu followed up with black widow (known for meme cgi), shang chi (ending had a slop cgi final battle), and then eternals (hated film, overhated imo but still a hated film regardless). Outside of Endgame(2019) and Far from Home(2019), everything after infinity war(2018) was ass up until Guardians 3 (2023). That's 5 years of ass which is way too much time and was enough for the average fan to leave. They brought back the broader audience with No Way Home and Deadpool/Wolverine but their smaller budget and B tier character movies won't bring people to the theaters anymore.
>>220088066I would argue the first Thor film showed signs of what was to come, but certainly Thor: The Dark World (or whatever the fuck) was the first one that felt like a dud. I legitimately couldn't tell you a single thing about that movie, except that Thor's in it.
>>220092367I think another big thing is they rushed the plot of the timeline. Should have took their time and showed people what the heroes were doing in those 5 canonical years between IW and Endgame so people could feel the weight of the heroes being gone. Nobody cared after leaving the infinity war theater because they knew endgame was coming out in 11 months so they knew they'd fix everything.
>>220088066Marvel had a huge cultural impact back in the dayTurned woke,destroyed itself,no one cares about it anymore
>>220092475i will always remember it because Christopher Eccleston is in it playing a spaceelf speaking nonstop madeup words, but still somehow just sounds like a northerner
>>220092528I rewatched some older Marvel films recently, and they actually had a sincerity and appreciation of heroism that slowly died as the franchise advanced.
>>220088066>>220088184I just like Iron man 1 and 3. 2 feels like an filler film and the rest of the filmography is completely forgettable. The Captain America films are slop and your can't convince me otherwise.
>>220092367>eternal >hatedQrd I thought china loved it? The ending teasing both blade & king arthur in was bizarre though
>>220088066There's multiple answers.Probably Iron Man 3. The aesthetics change and everything looks horrible. Then Winter Soldier does well and is a harbinger of death (TWS is good, but not for the entire aesthetics of the MCU).Spider-Man: Homecoming is the death knell, the first destruction of what should be for the sake of diversity which they can not go back on. Infinity War/Endgame is the funeral.
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there was something about age of ultron that teenage me catched on almost from the opening action scene, it was comic-booky but i wasnt just feeling it.years later I feel i was starting to notice all the lame bullshit from cape comics was starting to ooze into the crossover movies/universe merging slop. I also think the moment they tried to cope the term "anchor beings" with a straight face i was just out entirely.
>>220093283maybe they did, don't remember
>>220094484they've definitely gotten better at this over time. the og netflix red daredevil suit was the worst offender of the line theory but they have really toned it down since then
>>220088066First non good one was dr strange.
>>220096010But it was great?
>>220094831does he remember spiderman at all?
>>220088066it was always hit and miss. from the very beginning it was a mix of good and bad. and continues to be. after Endgame they were doing a lot more misses and almost no hits for a while, but it's trending a little more positive in the past couple years
>>220089792Superman the movie, Superman II, Spider-man 2
>>220088184I won't even tag everyone replying to me. I'm right. If they didn't turn it into Avengers 2.5 movie would've been great. They wanted to do this thing of "why don't they just call in the other Superheroes" but its too small scale of an issue to bring in fucking Thor or the Hulk. So they bring in Spider-Man? Spider-Man fucking sucks in this universe and he dragged the movie down.
Whenever they started the television shows. I cannot possibly describe how bad Agents of Shield is and the damage its done to this series. But at that point I decided I don't want to watch all this shit even if they make me. On that NoteS- Iron ManA- The Incredible Hulk, Captain AmericaB- AvengersC-Iron Man 2D-Thor
>>220088066Iron Man 1 and Winter Soldier were the only objective kinos, the rest of them range from ok to bad. I'd also give an honorable mention to Iron Man 2 because despite it being a bad movie, it's still before the movies start becoming entirely generic and Disneyish
>>220088066OBJECTIVELY CORRECT ANSWER:AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON was when the mcu turned into pure reddit
Just watch it all the way to Endgame. It's not all kino, there are some duds, but overall it's a worthy journey.Only thing really worth watching after Endgame is maybe GotG3, if you want to see a conclusion for those characters.
>>220099439Captain Marvel makes that journey quite miserable
>>220088066It was never good, Iron man was shit, only the first five or ten minutes were decent.
>>220099439Last one I saw was Civil War and I've been thinking about doing that and just skipping Black Panther and Captain Marvel, I know they're all slop but I haven't seen anything with high budget spectacle in a while.
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being kinoWhen they introduced alien shit, so Thor I guess.
>>220088066Did anyone who really liked these start watching them as adults?
>>220098777You are a boomer.
>>220089598wow i havent seen the last 14 films more surprising is i've seen 21 of the first 22, thought for sure i missed more than antman and wasp, whatever the fuck that is.i really never made an effort to see all of them which is why that's surprising.
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being kinoThe first 2 offensive moments were the end of WandaVision & The woke shit in Falcon & Winter Soldier.
>>2200880662 is kinda shit. 3 is the best of the bunch.
Civil War is a steaming pile of shit and I never understand the recognition it gets. Such a sloppy movie. The quick and shake cam are headache inducing and the plot is nonsensical. Spiderman is completely shoe horned in and the airport scene is highly laughable.
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>>220099974You really like to think about Indians, huh.
>>220088066iron man 2 was awful and ridiculous
>>220088066The cracks started to show with Iron Man 3 and Captain America 2: Civil War. While both were passable, you see them slipping in quality.Iron Man 3 really needed a better director and storyline that took Iron Man villains seriously. Changing the Mandarin from being a dangerous Chinese martial arts villain that uses magic rings to...a weird white guy mascot was awful. They also treated Iron Man armors like a joke and they broke apart like tinfoil. Captain America 2 had way too many characters and storylines for a single movie. It really should have been multiple movies. The directors and writers also bent over backwards to somehow create a situation where Captain America could beat Iron Man in hand to hand combat. Even though we saw in Iron Man 1 where Tony punched a terrorists and sent him flying dozens of feet into the air into a building killing him.Infinity War was the last time they took the storyline seriously. Endgame was the directors and writers believing their own hype. They became obsessed with time travel and bringing every hero back. Basically undoing everything shown in Infinity War. Why? It's dumb. Killing Tony Stark was also dumb. After Endgame....Black Panther 2 was just awful. They should have just recast T'Challa. Not kill the character in the universe because the actor died. What a stupid decision that left no room for the story to go. I didn't watch any of the other movies so I can't say. I heard Thor 3 was awful and a waste of a good comic villain.
>>220089598Why does everyone have such a hard on for Black Panther
>>220088967I fell asleep for 1.5hrs of the middle of endgame and when I woke it was the same scene happening with hulk on the rooftop with that bald freak; I felt like I'd missed nothing. the film just seemed to be a "clip show" rehashing scenes from infinity war.never went back to watch it, was pretty awful.the final fight looked less interesting than ants crawling in mud.
>>220089314>Ryan Gosling Black Pantheri'd watch it if it was set in Idaho and had no nogs in it.
>>220100033It's so easy to oust a jeet, literally just call a jeet a jeet and they immediately deflect with some bullshit, because the fecal-worms in their brains don't allow them to concede that their entire race and culture is universally abhorred. Like, all they gotta say is "Fuck you nigger, I'm not a shit-eating, disgusting cockroach" but they always lean into the rent free, b-b-but pakis though, all that type of shit. What a pathetic race and culture.
>>220100119They're afraid of being racist by not liking it.
>>220089314How I would fix Thor - Love & Thunder!> Directed by 1 of the following...> - Denis Villeneuve (Dune)> - Brad Bird (Iron Giant, Ghost Protocol)> - Gareth Edwards (Rogue One)> - Russos> Adapts God Butcher> Takes place in 2 time periods: Present Day + Batman Begins style heavy flashbacks of Young Thor and the Warriors 3 barely surviving Gorr before he is driven off by Odin & Zeus working together.> Film is at least as serious as Infintiy War.> Zeus is a epic beast and Gorr takes him out.> I am open to Jane-Thor but fine with it being tossed also (I did love her design in the film we got)
>>220100182Get help dude, you're completely obsessed.
>>220099898Infinity Saga MCU was 23 movies over 11 years while everything after that was 14 movies (not to mention all the Disney+ shows) over 5 years, so it became way too easy for people to feel overwhelmed by the tidal wave of mediocre "content" like you did. They had to course correct after Kevin Feige admitted the MCU became homework and the hype was no longer there to pressure people into it.
>>220088066EndGame should have been literal. Instead they're betting on multiverses with diminishing returns.
>>220091909I'd mostly agree with this, but I would put the An-man movies and first Dr. Strange into Very Good and the second Dr. Strange into Decent.For me the real issue is when the stories basically become filler and nothing really happens or matters. The best ones are either origin stories or the conclusion of stories. Like Winter Soldier is the conclusion of him being a villain, and even Thunderbolts is the conslusion of all their stories, but I wouldn't consider Captain Marvel to be a proper origin story because not only had she appeared before, but her story really doesn't matter at all.
>>220097539according to dr strange 2nd movie, people remember spiderman but don't remember who is under the mask. in murdock's case he most likely remembers being spidermans lawyer but doesn't remember when or anything involving the case.
>>220091909Thor Love and Thunder is overhated. I unironically liked it more than Thor 2, which was possibly the most boring superhero movie ever made. I honestly don't see too much of a difference between it and Ragnarok in terms of the tone.
I miss the MK II suit so much. Nothing beats the MK II.
>>220099851Wasnt aware boomer wsa a race
>>220102403well you are now
>>220088066Winter Soldier sucked. Most overrated bland boring action movie ever
>>220092475overhated movie. It's finePeople only pretend to not remember it because it felt inconsequential at the time.
>>220088066Did a rewatch of everything up until Endgame a few months ago. Everything phase 1 and 2 held up either very well or reasonably well, for instance Thor 2 was much better than I remembered (still not a good one, but very decent compared to what comes later). The first Ant-man was better than remembered too. But goddamn does everything crash and burn with Ragnarok, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Ant-man and the Wasp. The MCU stops being kino after Age of Ultron, because after that it becomes incredibly hit and miss. Before that, the 'bad' ones weren't actually that bad, and each of the heroes stand alone films were allowed their own tone and sense of humor. After, the individuality gets diluted out of them.
>>220089200true i do recall the final fight being pretty kino and when tony realizes who killed his parents. but that was when i was 16 and if i watched it again now i'd probably cringe so i'm not gonna ever rewatch it so i can keep a fond memory.
>>220088066After endgame. The movie itself signaled the intended shift to female centered woke movies with the all female line up scene. Despite the negative reaction to that scene the next 7 years were spent trying fruitlessly to make a successful woke film, leading the "the marvels" becoming one of the largest box office flops of all time.
>>220099974Yes, India's a country very famous for NOT enjoying Marvel films. All those videos of screaming crowds of Indians watching Avengers must just be AI generated. You definitely aren't retarded at all, anon.
>>220104007that endgame girlboss scene was so fucking forced there was zero reason for that, i'm usually not a chud but that scene was retarded. not even she-hulk was that bad compared to that
>>220104316>not even she-hulk was that bad compared to thatYou are absolutely psychotic if you believe that.The Endgame scene was cringe, She-Hulk was fucking evil.
>>220101341Pronouns?
>>220092482imagine if Thunderbolts had been set in the 5 year gap between Infinity war and endgame and had followed the premise of the original Thunderbolts comic where Zemo recruits villains to pose as heroes. You could have had Zemo fake being blipped and escaping in the chaos then recruiting lame powered bad guys to pose as super heroes. The world is going crazy, their obviously aren't enough heroes to go around, the US government is desperate for a team they can control (unlike the Avengers). It's the perfect setup for Zemo to swoop in in disguise with a bunch of others and pose as heroes to get in good with the government in a plot to get access to something the government has. it goes south when most of the team realizes they actually like being heroes and they rebel against Zemo to stop him. It's basically the same plot as the original Thunderbolts comics just with the blip instead of Heroes Reborn
>>220099122AoS was better than any of the D+ shows though, even if Disney basically ignored it existed
>>220103986That fight didn't have any quips so it's automatically kino.
>>220088066Age of Ultron (2015) That was the first mcu film to not feel Paramount and felt clear as day a Disney Product.
>>220088066I'd argue the series' peak was actually somewhere around Phase 2 despite how garbage Thor 2 was. So much of Phase 1 is really clunky and amateurish they barely feel like real movies. Here's my list of good MCU movies•Iron Man•The Avengers•Guardians of the Galaxy•Caltain America: The Winter Soldier•Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (and only barely)•Black Panther•Infinity WarThat's it. Honorable mention Guardians 3 and Captain America: Civil War but both films have a lot of issues holding them back. It's weird to think what a huge part of my teenage years these movies made up, seeing them all with friends then arguing about how shit they were with friends and going over rumors about what was in development. Makes me a sad in a way but nostalgic too, all for this dogshit franchise
>>220099122Black Panther 1 is actually good
>>220106499>evil I never got the chance to see it before my sub expired & my new TV doesn't work with internet how bad was it?
>>220111572>Honorable mention Guardians 3The Guardians movies have been the only MCU thing I've seen in theaters since the first Avengers. I like those characters and every movie has worked on its own which is nice because the only other MCU movie I've seen after the first Avengers was Winter Soldier which was pretty good. I've started a few of the other movies and they all suck.
>>220088066I started getting bored after Ultron and only watched the "mainline" entries with maybe one or two exceptions.Haven't touched any new capeshit since Endgame
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being kinoAt some point during Age of Ultron's flying city or airship or whatever battle sequence I realized I hadn't been paying attention and didn't really know what had happened for the last 15 minutes or so. After than I can only recall being engaged in the first Dr Strange movie and Infinity War/Endgame. Parts of Ragnarok were okay but I didn't really like it that much. Age of Ultron was the point that marvel capeshit fatigue really set in for me.
>>220088066>At what point does it stop being kinoNone of the movies are really straight up "bad". But they get very formulaic and quippy. There's no point where they get awful and stay awful, you just have to look up reviews.
>>220112783Killing off QuickSilver put a sour taste in my mouth
>>220112733The issue was when they made the "mainline" entrees accessable only through Disney Plus. You think people want to sit through fucking Cloak and Dagger to understand the next Dr. Strange movie? Or the Runaways to understand why the X-men aren't around? I'm being hyperbolic on purpose but they truly have a too many cooks in the kitchen situation
>>220111697I agree. Civil War was really good
>>220089598I didn't know Deadpool and Wolverine happened after the buyout. Ashame I'll never see it. But at least I can rest easy knowing Logan was the final X-Men film
>>220088066MCU was always awful. Individual-hero films early on were good but once they started with all the crossovers, total crap
>>220088066Man you were too young or just weren't paying attention to when Thor 2 came out? Shit is horrid but compared to some bullshit like Eternals, then it's a masterpiece.
>>220089314>How to fix the MCUAbandon it and start again >Inb4 that's the point of Secret Wars It should be the point but it won't be. It's going to get worse.
>>220091909>Not putting all 3 Guardians in the Best tier Faggot
>>220088066It peaked at Endgame.
>>220115700nah it peaked at infinity warendgame was worse
>>220115742Nah it peaked at Endgame.
the only good ones were the gotg ones
Peaked in phase 1, the rest was shit
>>220115317They'd been doing crossovers since The Incredible Hulk
>>220089598Crazy how almost half of the MCU is post-Endgame, but it still hasn't gone anywhere.
>>220115410GoTG is the soiest of the soi. Fucking embarassment
>>220116207Its going to be so satisfying if Doomsday is shit. Like if it's good that's all good. But its infinitely funnier if its bad after all this build up. Pure schadenfruede. There's people who feel similar about GTA 6. I want all this normalfag shit to cause misery
>>220116215What's embarrassing is how different you're trying to be. You just come off as some miserable faggot that cares about what people think about him so you can never truly enjoy anything in fear of being "soi". Kill yourself, man. You failed as a human.
>>220088066Black Panther, of course
>>220116473I know how to have fun. Those movies? Are not fun. They are dysgenic trash for the most droolian faggots. Found family movies are always trash
>>220088066Shang Chi was the last really good one, but honestly if it wasn't For Awkwafina and Razor Fist carrying the film, it would have been just average at best. It was made just before covid, which is where the real rot baked itself into the MCU movies. The series are sometimes good like Moon Knight, but those ones ultimately go nowhere because KF didn't plan for people to like it more than whatever bland shite he had been plotting to carry the films for years (eg Blandtastic Bore). More often series are forgettable like Secret Wars, Echo, Hawkeye and the like, at least She Hulk was distinctive even if it failed to live up to its potential, I guess.Eternals was the first really bad MCU film, before then you could at least guarantee they'd be good enough to just about justify a ticket, even if not the best film you've seen. After covid it became more important to justify a Disney + subscription than sell loads of tickets at a cinema. Having to change the big bad halfway though this phase, which has been over long, didn't help, but probably just as, well because he was a boring antagonist. Who they replaced him with was just as dull though, so swings and roundabouts.
>>220117143Honestly there isn't much they can do after Thanos. Will people care if Spider-Man has to fight, like, Stilt Man after he just fought a guy who destroyed half the world? I would have ended it after Endgame and I'm sure a lot of people wish they did. But we have to squeeze this stone for every drop of blood. So with that said I suppose it makes sense for the next big bad to be some multiverse hopping monster. Kang the Conqueror failed and in reality they shot their load too early with Civil War. CW would have been a great in between storyline between Endgame and whatever new overarching bad guy. It sounds like Secret Invasion won't be what the comic was. Marvel Zombies was relagated to a shitty animatic. Even Galactus has been defeated already. I dunno. At this point they've stopped adapting comics and their just making movies relying on the audience's knowledge of other movies
>>220118155Once again, it's up to the X-Men to save Marvel. If Doomsday fails, it's unironically ogre.
>>220088066Civil War was garbage on rewatch. Watch it again and see. Winter Soldier suffered from shaky cam bullshit Bourne Identity too many cuts action. It really did stop being good with Iron Man.
>>220088066Only ones worth anyone’s time:>Hulk>First Avenger>Winter Soldier>The scenes of Christian Bale putting in more effort than anyone else ever has in a Marvel movieHonourable Mentions:>parts of Infinity War>Thunderbolts>Deadpool 2Wasted Potential Award:>Iron Man 3>Thor 2 Borderline Experimental Cinema tier:>Madame WebIrredeemable Trash:>Everything else
>>220118155They should have possibly considered using evil/Hydra versions of Avengers from the multiverse, especially of the ones that have left or died.Dial it back a bit but the potential to add more personal drama into the bargain.Fucks sake, they have the multiverse now, they can do anything, yet they settle for Doctor Dull.
>>220118455Madame Web amazing because it had completely comic accurate costumes but they were in the movie for like 5 seconds each.
>>220088967Although there was a lot of slop on the road to Infinity War, that movie felt really epic in scope. I genuinely left the cinema thinking it could easily have been our generation's Star Wars. But Endgame so so bad I gave up all hope on superhero movies and began to hate them simply because of the retards who thought was peak.>>220090004>But it obviously loses out because of the big battle in Endgame that surpasses all expectations.The end battle of Endgame had no imagination. The fight with Thanos in IW was fun because the heroes used their powers and skillsets against Thanos and it was imaginative. In Endgame they all act as generic as anything.
>>220118591I can't belive we already wasted the Skrulls
>>220118591>Doctor Dull.Oh yeah why would they focus on the greatest character they have, what a blunder.
>>220120112What they need to do is get Norman Osborn to start killing the New York heroes off and not pussy foot about it. Fuck. Even kill off Peter so they can finally start pushing Miles. Its not like this adaptation of Peter is any good to begin with
>>220120363I think he's smarter than that when he's not wearing the mask. Your idea sounds really dumb, good thing you're only in charge of your dick.
>>220088066For me it was after Endgame. They should have kept all those characters dead and make a last movie more dramatic as a revenge of the remaining Avengers to defeat Thanos. For me when you start using time travel and multiverse I lose all interest. Nobody dies, everyone can returned from the past or another universe, there is no drama. Also, they made a lot of movies and tv series about characters that the mainstream audience don't know or care about.
>>220120382I never said i wanted to FIX the MCU
