There has to be a metric by which this can be justifiably be called the worst movie-product ever made. Like given the production quality and the amount of joy one can get out of this has to be the biggest discrepancy in history.Its just an unholy union of an idiot-plot and nostalgia-baiting combined with completely unimaginative visuals (aside from the old Giger-influence) and moronic attempts at pretentiousness. Absolutely NOTHING in this flick works, i mean there is a plot sure but everything is so ineptly written and filmed that i felt so disconnected that i wondered what the fuck i even watched afterwards. What on earth happened to Ridley Scott? Even after Prometheus this was unexpected.
Still way better than Romulus
>>220094837You got filtered hard.
>>220094837Still better than OBAA
>>220094863bet you are one of those guys who likes Tenet
>>220094837Prometheus was equally as shit and a dead giveaway that this old fart should retire.
This movie is terrible with no redeeming qualities but it's still better than the vast majority of oscar winners.
>>220094901what's a tenet?
was it planned that franco isnt in the movie at all or did they just write him out because he got metoo´d.
This is the one with Juicy Smollet right?
>>220094843This. Nothing in Covenant is as bad as the awkward stuttering "Get away from her, you b-bitch," or the guy getting slowly acid dripped to death when he could just move out of the way, or the xeno nonsensically doing picrel at Cailee and not killing her, just to recreate the Alien 3 shot
pacific rim 2 is the worst movie ever made
>>220095006yes
>>220095049i don't agree but i understand
>>220094970it's tenet backwards
>>220094837Nothing that isn't Alien (1979) or Alien: Isolation (2014) matters
>>220095107you think this is funny? I't's all a joke to you?Here I sit, puzzled, mindboggled about what a tenet is and you come in here and clown around like some maniac on whatever hippy crap drug you kids like to consume these days.I hope your mother is proud of you.
>>220095049That's not a movie. It's a generic cash grab sequel. That's what all sequels used to be like and they were expected to be trash. Movies were made as one offs and anything that got popular might get a quick, shitty, straight to video follow up sequel pumped out that was never intended to be taken seriously. See Starship Troopers 2.
>>220094837I really dont careI am so starved for anything like it that i just dont care
>>220094837prometheus
this is the worst movie ever made
>>220094934I hate Prometheus even more than Covenant. At least Covenant gave us 15 minutes of compelling space dilemma. Prometheus starts at full retard and somehow just keeps going at it harder and harder.
>>220096729Very weird movie. Interesting seeing Rock act autistic and Sean act schizo
>>220097664Prometheus had some ambition and some thought has been put into the lore.Covenant is just a clumsy attempt at a direct sequel with nowhere to go and nothing to say.All that comes out of it is "Now there is a robot supervillain".
>>220094843Watched romulus and predator badlands back to back and at least badlands made me crack a smile once or twice
>>220097664>>220094837It's funny watching the behind the scenes stuff about Prometheus. Ridley actually had it all worked out with answers to everything that was going on in each scene. He had it planned out who the engineers were, what they wanted, why relations between them and humans turned sour, how things went to shit on LV223 and the crash on LV426, etc. It was pretty thorough and the humans would work out the mystery slowly during the movie. But then he just... cut out most of it. He decided it needed to be almost entirely left to mystery. He wanted to audience to figure out everything themselves or argue about it online. He didn't realize he'd made something hopelessly confusing that has not nearly enough info to be understood, and just comes off as silly, empty mystery boxes with only vague connections to Alien. Then he took all the wrong lessons from that, killed off the engineers, and only focused on his beloved android. Plus tacked on some xenomorphs just because.
>>220094837
>>220095049It's not the worst movie ever made, but it is true slop in the sense that it's a movie in the tradition of every direct to DVD sequel produced in the mid 00s that didn't involve any of the people from the original, had nothing to say or showcase and only existed to con people who liked the first out of their money. It's a truly artless movie, which is arguably worse than just being bad
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>>220094837Covenant is genuine kino. Scott was doing something similar to the Tudor poet John Skelton, who put sophisticated concepts into the medium of doggerel as a sort of dialectical experiment. Scott takes what amounts to a medieval morality play, mixes in some Wagnerian and existentialist themes (like the inverted Pygmalion myth with David and Shaw), and puts it into the medium of cinematic doggerelIt's very easy to get filtered by the film so I don't blame you, but if you have a deep interest in the European historical tradition it's a joy to watch
>>220098699People who fall for "themes" are the biggest midwits of them all.
>>220095324https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Squareits the director trying to be clever
>>220094837>yess he-he I murdered and dissected this actress who wouldn't come back, and then in a cave with no tools I stitched her vagina onto some other bits and made a face hugger, so when you see face huggers in the other films its really ginger vagina touching their mouths, even if it's a girl.>i then did that 10,000 times and put them all in eggs made from armadillo shells, and sent them to crash on a planet in the middle of nowhere so 100,000 years later they'd still be there when humanity with somehow worse technology that us now go there, they can be infected by my vagina creature>just how it was planned all alongit's like if the star wars prequels had a death star that was already finished and the death star was sent off at the end of the prequels to print out a copy of itself
>>220098187I doubt he had anything worked out; none of it works out chronologically with anything else. he just wanted to make some scenes and strung nonsencial filler around it.
>>220098699he could have just made any other film and now tried to hammer in alien crap, since none of the alien stuff lines up with anything.neither film deserves to exist, both are awful, and he should have just made non-alien art films
>>220099018kekked
>>220095049It is certainly up there as one of the worst. A truly horrible movie.
>>220099054Ok? Go watch the video yourself then. The story was supposed to be Engineers live for hundreds of thousands of years and discarded biological reproduction. They use the ritual to sacrifice themselves to create life on planets, then the other engineers guide and nurture it. It does not always turn out well and they kill off those planets. Earth was one that they decided to kill off. The black goo is what they call Accelerant. It has multiple different types which is why it seems to act erratically in Prometheus. One breaks down organics to create something new, which is what was happening to Holloway. One mutates organics into xenomorphs which was happening to Feifield. It can modify organics to become monstrous like it did to worms to make the snake that attacks Millburn. And it can be used to create more Engineers and more Deacons. Deacons can be created from perfect immortal engineers. Perfect immortal engineers need them to comb through all the beings they have made to find perfect women to inject specific goo into. That's why he got mad at Weyland, because you can't be given Immortality willynilly, you must be made with it from the start through a complicated process and be created as a God to inherently rule over all your created beings. LV426 had an outbreak and was quarantined long ago. LV223 also suffered an outbreak and the engineers were infected, they ran to pods to try to save themselves before what was growing inside them erupted. There were four engineers in the pods and three pods were broken open showing three deacons had gotten loose. All this shit was cut out.
>>220094970That's a guy that rents your property.
>>220095181>anons are STILL ignoring Aliens: Dark DescentPlay it, you fuckers.
>>220095049Never gave it too much thought but it really is a nearly perfect amalgamation of everything that can go wrong in a sequel and with studio exec meddling to try to increase appeal>couldn't get main character to come back, just kill him offscreen>sequel clearly wasn't meant to exist (director didn't come back either) since the new main character is a never-before mentioned relative of two of the three mains from the first>also he's black, we can check that off the list>the main actor you COULD get to come back, kill her off in truly pathetic fashion because two asian chicks is too confusing and you introduced a new Chinese one to try to get the China market>grrrlpower and spunky kid hijinks
>>220098046>some thoughtWhich part- Ancient Aliens seeding life on our planet(with greenery in the flyover shots), then sitting at a technological standstill for billions of years, or paleo-archeologists seeing cave paintings of giants pointing to the stars and immediately leaping to “they created us”? Or was it the part where a FUCKING ARCHEOLOGIST suggests “fooling the nervous system” on a severed 2000yo alien head using a meat thermometer?
>>220098187Just pit of curiosity, why was David “impressed” with the goo he wiped off the control panel? Did they cover that?
>>220099018Lmfao
It was hilarious and bad. The whole bit when they're in the med bay or whatever and they're trying to save that guy and then you get this epic clusterfuck of total inteptitude that somehow chain reacts into the whole fucking ship exploding. It's not played for laughs but it's fucking hysterical how dumb the characters behave and how every single decision they make is the wrong one.How are you going to fill a colony/exporation ship with the biggest fucking unqualified panic prone retards you can find? And to walk out onto a totally alien world with no respirators or protection against pathogens (which is exactly what kicks off the whole shit show)... Just lazy fucking writing. Good setup would have been:>your characters are capable, experienced and up to the task>do everything by the book, every precaution followed>the situation is just so bad that even their skills can't save them (like Aliens)
>>220094837It's kino. >>220094863spbp
>>220100471Yes, but can you not see how the timeline is insane? Marvel comics already had this concept with the Celestials, only they’re literally “space gods” - hyperdimensional beings of pure energy and unfathomable power that house themselves in techno-organic avatars/projections that are quite literally beyond the understanding of the biggest-brained of aliens. And here’s the thing - their tech is indeed godly, so it makes sense that it’s not seen improving over time as it is truly the pinnacle. In contrast, in order for the Engineers to have created us and still appear to be using that same not-at-all beyond our understanding technology (basically nanotech), they’d have to have been stagnant for billions of years.
>>220100471thanks for typing all that out, it is interesting but a lot is fairly evident within the film already. the functionalities of the different types of goo not being completely clear but not really mattering either.the film itself might have been better off had no humans been involved whatsoever and he just made it an engineer documentary.none of that info however fixed the problems with the film fitting in with any other alien films, and it remains retarded.>happens 50 years before alien but all tech is hundreds of years more advanced>somehow it is trying to imply that david created face huggerss, the xenomorph as it was in alien, and sent the ship there, rendered an entire 'god' species extinct that just live in tattered rags like in an indiana jones film, and that they'd just been frozen for a billion years for no reason but yet wake up and immediately want to continue their earth-killing missionwhen was that mission set up? when did they decide to kill earth? 3 weeks earlier and then oops some proto-xenos escaped?why would they need to send ships filled with david-made face huggers to take out a planet if they could just crop dust it like he did to their entire desert shambles planet just after?it really seems that the director just had some ideas for visuals that he thought would look poetic or cool and then stitched them together with little thought or concern for coherence.
>>220096729this. no edit can save this
>>220101221maybe the cave paintings were only 5,000 years old and the aliens had just had a stale period, been in a bit of a rut for a while or didn't feel like getting out of bed and were grumpy grahams.had forgotten about the talking then exploding for no reason head.
>>220101612an anon said recently that the daughter deliberately selected all the worst possible people to sabotage her father's mission so he dies and she inherits it all.thus the film was an inheritance scam, and she couldn't just have told david to kill him on earth in his sleep, which is what he indirectly does anyway just in a looney toons wiley coyote chain of events round about way.it sounded utterly moronic but the anon persisted and may very well be in this thread.
>>220094971lmao, did franco get metoo'd? What did he do?
>>2201038635,000 years is understandable, but we’re talking billions of years. And it still doesn’t explain how archeologists make the leap from “We’ve been visited” to “They created us.”
>>220104042Only that’s not accurate. She outright says she didn’t personally hire the whole crew.
>>220101221In the Alien universe the Earth is only 6000 years old.
>>220094837still better than Prometheus
>>220094837if its so bad how come i rewatch it every few years like i only do with like 2 other movies?
>>220101612I also liked >it’s established we’ve got basically identical androids >daniels isn’t immediately concerned by default it might be david who survived >billy crudup sees david jerking off to the neomorph killing a crew mate >immediately lets his guard down and follows him casually
>>220094837It had all 5'11" of Katherine Waterston with cute short hair and nips, fuck else you need in a movie?
>>220106537I watch it every do often as well, but it’s to reconfirm that it really is as stupid as I remember it. It’s a masterpiece of unintentional comedy.
>>220107506>unintentionalthis is the same mistake people make with prometheus. it's a literal farce. look up farce
>>220106991Did she play one of those pale monsters that eat people?
>>220106991why are her nipples short
>>220109526>the matrix 4 excusehi ripley scatt
>>220105751it was fully explained in the film.>cave painting has a figure pointing at a few stars>they stick all the cave paintings they found in a photo gallery>play it as an animation>the figure squats down and poos out a man>stars spell out "fag"archeologists use science to realise it's all just a giant shitpost>aliens mean to send xeno hive as punchline but are too wasted to push the last button>play some wooden flute music, watch some holo films, fall asleep in the jerk off chamber>woken up by man let's 5k years later>pull one's head off, splat the other
>>220098187>He didn't realize he'd made something hopelessly confusing that has not nearly enough info to be understoodIt's not really confusing, normalfags are just retarded.
>>220115152it's not confusing, it's just shit and wrong
>>220095181>Alien: Isolationshitand Ripley will never have a daughter
>>220094837>worst movie ever?BvSbut Prometheus is a strong second
>>220115037no not it's meant to be bad, it's just a comedy (this prometheus btw we're talking about but sort of applies to covenant) like prometheus is overtly comedic and yet people don't want to see it because over the years they put Alien into a box in their brain that it was epic and serious even though it too was slapsticky and had deliberately absurd elements (bonus situation) Next time you watch Prometheus watch Austin powers 1-3 first and see how many allusions it makes to that
>>220116358>IT WAS BAD ON PURPOSE!!!>put Alien into a box in their brainthen fuck off from the Alien box if you your shitty product doesn't fit
>>220095022>”Hmmm… this defect robot with a hard-on for the aliens just asked me to look inside this wierd looking egg. Guess I have no choice but to do what it says.”
>>220094837Yeah, man. By the metric of lying. If you bullshit and lie, anything is possible.
>>220094837Even by capeshit standards, this movie was offensively bad
>>220116358if that's the case, which it's not, it's about as funny as one of the 'comedy' episodes of the xfiles with retarded circus music
>>220095022its weird how a3 has the most recognizable shot then all others huh. for all of its shortcomings 3 ass, is my number 3 pick
>>220115087Kek
>>220116554I will never be over this. And it’s so much worse than merely David having a hard-on for the Xenos. In the beginning of that scene, they’re standing there by that fountain with the crewman’s head floating in it. David flat doesn’t give a shit, then screams like a madman when the captain shoots the Xeno. It’s not just that he cares about the aliens, it’s that he doesn’t give a good wet shit about humans. Why the fuck would you trust a thing he says?
>>220117077How can you be okay writing and directing such dumb characters where your entire plot revolves around them being dumb? At least in Alien and Aliens the mistakes that characters made were the result of the higher ups sabotaging the missions for their own benefit.In Covenant it's just "Look we're slipping over blood, I'm shooting into some explosive barrels, we're not wearing any protective clothing, watch as I stare into some weird alien egg thing because the creepy android said it's okay!", in Prometheus it was "Look, we're world class scientists in our respected fields that are acting like twats!"
>>220117290> in Prometheus it was "Look, we're world class scientists in our respected fields that are acting like twats!"that wasn't what they were at all, we covered this last week. its explained in the movie (not deleted scenes, in the released movie) that the 'science' guys are jackoff fools that vickers hired to specifically not be able to find the eternal life for wayland, because otherwise she never gets to inherit the company. as opposed to the ship crew who are pros because she didn't want them to actually crash or get lost in space. just not find the eternal life
>>220117803That shit is not in the movie at all, retard
>>220117892watch it again - i did actually forget to say: it's true you'll completely miss it if you miss even one comment so, there is some fault on the film-makers. the movie is too fast paced to catch everything to understand this on the first watch. it's not the audience fault. but yeah its in there
>>220117892It is, try watching movies without using your phone next time.
>tfw have a monstrous alien breeding humans fetish
>>220117803Vickers didn’t hire them all. She specifically says she didn’t.
>>220117966>>220117947Try to stick with what's actually on screen, retard.Why do these shit movies always have retards like this defending the on the basis of the movie they have seen in their head?You see the same shit for snydershit
>>220118199She's talking to a group of the scientists, crew and maybe even those two christians that Wayland invited. She says 'those of you I hired'.There's no need for her to have hired 'them' all for her to have hired all the scientists. The crew and science team are distinct, as I mentioned
>>220118319It is on screen, mongoloid.
>>220118503Did Vickers hire the security team?
>>220118199>>220118503(so when I say the 'crew are pros' (the SHIP crew as opposed to the expedition members generally) it means she could have hired them selecting good ones, or just not got involved in hiring the crew (ship crew). I said that because people last week got confused and said "why would she hire idiots when she's going to be on the ship?". They didn't distinguish between the ships pilot etc and the science team)
>>220094837jews cant write, thats why everything made in america since 2005 is unwatchable.
>>220118592So if you’re actively trying to sabotage the risky, long-distance, clandestine mission to make contact with an alien civilization, and your plan of attack is to hire belligerent incompetents, how do you know with any certainty at all that those incompetents aren’t going to put you into shit your ace ship crew can’t hope to get you out of? I mean, sure, you can pull them aside and instruct them not to make contact, but remember - they’re incompetent, headstrong retards, so how is that helping you? Seems to me there are more foolproof ways to go about eliminating a centenarian.
>>220118739Yes but that doesnt headcanon the obvious flaws of the movie away so it's not true
>>220118789Kek
>>220118739>eliminating she doesn't want to kill wayland>beligerent/headstrongnobody said she specifically hired agressive guys, that is incidental. that is the type of guy she happened to get when hiring for 'guy who won't succeed in the task' Also she had to work within her constraints. She didn't have full reign, Weyland is somewhat wary of her and is the most powerful man in the world and has for example David protecting him on the ship. You all seem to forget that the ENTIRE THING of Alien 1979 is that space travel in this setting is mundane, so mundane that it's famously the equivalent of 'trucking' that's why the Nostromo crew was blue collar workers. Vickers putting her self on an expedition ship *in this setting* is the equivalent of going on a ship to some part of Antarctica we didn't notice before. They don't treat the unknown planet thing as such a big a deal/risk in the movie because they are in the Alien setting where it's just shipping
>>220118867No, she just wants him to die, subtle distinction, that. And this isn’t even to mention that David seems to function almost entirely outside her control. And he’s so hyper competent that’s capable of doing *any* of the human crew’s jobs. He deconstructed Indo-European languages and derived PIE in a matter of months. How difficult would it be to master other disciplines with his years of existence? Also, this film is set somewhere around a century before Alien, and space travel is not yet quite so trivial.
>>220118867It's not trivial yet. They talk about how expensive and risky the mission in. The dumb scientists are pissed off to travel all that way for what they see as a wild goose chase at first.Also, there was a whole thing Ridley planned for Vickers to be a failed synthetic copy of his daughter he was disappointed with. Ridley scrapped it and just left in a jumbled mess of scenes with references that don't make sense and have no payoff
>>220119157>failed synthetic copyThat would have been so much cooler.
>>220101296You seriously didnt see the electric charge fizzing in it?
>>220119263No, I honestly didn’t. I just saw it draw down into a tight “core” as he stretched it. Was there some deeper implication to it? I read the original script, so was that a reference to those lines if energy that only David could see?
>>220094837Just so /tv/ knows, the black goo is oil.In the opening shot in Prometheus he drinks the black goo that decomposes his dna and then rebinds it to create “everything”, as the biologist lady said when they analyzed the decapitated engineer head. Engineers arent simply a type of human but they are all organic matter. Earth was already anorganic which is why there was a climate, water, mountains; what was missing was all the life.And if you understand the process of oil being solely organic matter that through pressure by earth’s crust gets pressed into the hexagonal hydro-carbon state, then you understand it is simply the origin state of all life on earth. We came from oil (somehow brought here by these engineers that see some self interest in creating life on planets) and we and all organic matter return to oil. Ridley literally mentions he read Negarestani’s book that makes the even wilder thesis that oil is cognizant and guides human life for its own fulfillment somehow being the causus finalis. Ridley must have just taken the>we come from oil, we return to oilIdea and made it more “alien(tm)”
>>220119318Its the same sticky stuff on the controls in later scenes. It must just be a more flexible (lower viscosity) form than our silicon computing.
>>220094837this movie sucks ass because the executives forced scott to make half the movie a uninspired rehash of Alien. It would have been much better if they just let him go full hog on following up Prometheus.
>>220094843Not possible.Covenant is by far the worstestest because it turned one of the most iconic horror monsters ever into some ChatGPT-made test-tube miscarriage.
>>220119347>Earth was anorganicWell they fucked that up beyond measure by showing green mats of algae as the ship flew in, and then they doubled down on that by having David explicitly say that the goo only affects animals. They should have made them responsible fir all of it or none of it but specifically us like in Spaihts’s original script.
>>220119440Well maybe just dna organic matter which makes the oil theory a bit rough.Maybe theres an answer for this out there. But i vividly remember the biologist saying the engineer’s DNA is everything on earth.Maybe it is not 100% of new life, but like mars or the moon europa some irganic life can exist on planets (especially with such flowing water and a climate) but it requires the engineers to catalyze a true living planet like earth.
>>220094837Ya'll- I say, ya'll done went and got filtered.
Ok but on a more serious point, why did the majority of sex scenes have to be black guys with white women?
>>220119799The other big, big problem with this is the timespan. See >>220101221 and >>220101888The long and short of it is that Lindelof took a perfectly serviceable script and ran it through the retardatron.
>>220119885It's a horror movie after all
Im starting to think all movies are made for low IQ individuals. Plot holes and bad acting is just an inherent part of this medium.Only documentaries and porn are high iq in this format.
>>220118525It's not, inbred
>>220119377Prometheus should have never have been connected to Alien, it doesn't belong there. It doesn't have the luxury to go where it wantsMind you, it would have been terrible even on its own
>>220119347>>220119799You are making backflips when the explanation is that it's just badly written and and doesn't make sense, on top off pissing and shitting on Alien.
>>22012046780% of the audience that saw prometheus and covenant never watched your 1970s flick.As stand alones these are good films ti the new audience.
>>220120076That doesn't explain the existence of well written movies in every single previous decade
>>220120505Name 10. They all have 1) bad acting or 2) plotholes
>>22012049980% of people who watches prometheus thinks it's shit, unlike the universally acclaimed masterpiece from the 70s. You fucking shit flick has basically no audience, old or newAnd artistic integrity doesn't care about people who doesn't care.You don't want the baggage? Create your own shit
>>220120542The blobThe ThingBullitThe Thin Man12 angry menSome like it hotHow to steal a millionRobocopApollo 13First Blood
>>220120591Youre really lucky i havent seen any of these before, but i seriously doubt they pass.>RobocopLiterally already sounds like a kid came up with it.
>>220120552Esl opinions dont matterGo watch your peruvian movies instead i our make you so upset.
>>220094837Michael Fassbender was kino in it. That alone makes it not be the worst "movie-product" ever made. It's also better than Alien 3.I didn't even finish Romulus.
>>220120642>I don't know shit about it but I'm sure I'm right>no I don't watch movies, how could you tell?
>>220120669>heavily emotional reaction when proven wrong
>>220120726>It's also better than Alien 3.Kek no. As bad as A3 is, i'd watch it every day for on year rather than even acknowledging revisionist ridleyshit
>>220116707compared to everything that came afterwards its a masterpiece.
>>220120993Yikes. You can't get more revisionist than Alien 3. It retconned the ending of Aliens to make Ripley not safely return home and instead magically go to some random planet lightyears away, magically have alien eggs onboard, and magically have them open and start a fire at just the right moment to dump everyone onto a planet that shouldn't be there. Only supreme retards could like that nonsense, so it fits that it would be your favorite
>>220122834>Only supreme retards could like that nonsense, so it fits that it would be your favoriteNTA, but he literally called A3 bad.
>>220094837I liked both cov and prom.
>>220094837Well, I could tell you that something like Manos the hands of fate is by every count worse, but would you believe me? If you look things objectively, sure, Covenant isn't a great movie, but it's not even close being among truly the worst movies ever made.
>>220123148if you factor in ambition, money and production quality the outcome is on a level few "bad" movies archieve.Basically every scene after the first act warrants a "what the fuck?"
>>220123228Manos is all that. It's director truly believed he was making the greatest movie ever. He had ambitions far, far beyond his skills, aided by his delusions.
>>220123018You sonuvabich!
>>220094837>idiot-plot and nostalgia-baitingpretty much thisin decent written stories the plot derives from the characters, i.e. you have a group of coherent characters that make decision based on who they are and the situation they are in, and the story evolves naturally, while in poorly written stories the plot drives the character's decisions, i.e. the characters have no consistent personality or motivation, they'll just do anything, no matter how stupid, in order to progress the pre-determined plot from point A to point B
>>220094843The editing in Romulus was terrible.
>>220094837not even the worst Ridley Scott movie of the last 10 years.Worst fucking performance ever by Phoenix, too. Insane how this was memory holed. I can't rate him as an actor anymore after this.
>>220094837Just watched this last night with my dad, and I forgot how retarded the entire away team was. Just land on an alien planet, no hazmats, no rebreathers, just hiking clothes and cigarettes. Also, how the FUCK did not one of those assholes kill the white xenomorphs? They all had assault rifles, and each time they hit an alien, they waited a full 2 seconds before firing again. The Captain was retarded too. You find an android on a dead planet, kill an alien, and you see a team member's dead body and a floating head in the water? And you follow the Android for no good reason? God, the only good thing about Covenant was the (not) Engineer Roman-esque planet. They seemed chill and I would like to hang out with them
>>220125206Ridley wanted them to be difficult to kill, either from tanking rounds, quick dodging, or the shooters crapping their pants in fear and missing. The captain kills one easily enough when he gets over the fear and can target it properly. The crew were overcome by the coincidence of it all and decided that it was ordained by God as their new home. The sensors said everything was safe and they had already picked up a human signal there. Not saying that's the best reasoning not to wear suits but it's the same shit as star trek and star wars. He went with David since he thought the he had the upper hand on the droid and could kill it at any point. He was used to Walter models who would never hurt a human. And he had no reason to fear some random egg would have something harmful in it. Only someone with hindsight that's watched these movies can claim they know eggs are dangerous.
>>220125696Do you actually believe the bullshit you are spouting or is this some devils advocate shit you're on?
>>220094837I mean movies that heavily laden with CGI are not movies at all, I can't figure out whether it is or is not because they all coalesce into one. As soon as the 'camera' starts moving around the engine-generated room I tune out.
>>220124486This movie made me feel a kind of numb disbelief. I couldn't hate it, it's more like I was depressed lol. It's 200 year old British propaganda made without irony. Napoleon is portrayed as almost the exact opposite of what he was like, despite him being one of the most well-documented human beings in history. The changes weren't interesting or entertaining, and the battle scenes were worse than in Waterloo from 1970, and small-scale.If it had at least tried to play with the idea of unreliable narrators of history or something like The Last Duel it might've even been an understandable take, but the movie seemingly played everything straight.Aside from his portrayal not being like Napoleon at all, Joaquin Phoenix was too old as well. One of the interesting points of the era was how young commanders rose to prominence after the Revolution, including Napoleon.I think there were some reports that he was almost going to leave the movie. He probably could have played a more energetic and charismatic Napoleon, but that wasn't what they wanted.
>>220126084I mean the way Ridley portrayed Russian incursion in the Duellists was kinda like on par with what he did in Napoleon. One cackling inhuman Cossack that they shoot down in a comic scene. What saved the movie is the focus on individual characters and cinematography.
>>220101612Also, the new captain looks directly over alien eggs, egged on by David. Very silly thing to do... for a ship's second-now-first in command. But people doing stupid things to move the plot along is pretty common. There'd be no Breaking Bad if that weren't the case. Finished watching that the other day. Season 5 was a complete clusterfuck. Can't believe some people think it's the best TV ever. Well it's unsurprising that normies do in fact.
>>220101221>Or was it the part where a FUCKING ARCHEOLOGIST suggests “fooling the nervous system” on a severed 2000yo alien head using a meat thermometer?This doesn't get mentioned enough. I like Prometheus despite it's stupid parts. It looks and sounds fantastic. But the part you mention is hilariously silly.
>>220106991Can't help but see her father in court when I look at her. ugh
>>220126973I cant tell anymore if that's worse than the bit in romulus where they're sneaking past facehuggers becuase they raised the room temperature enough
>>220120076>Im starting to think all movies are made for low IQ individuals.They are written to maximize profit, most of the time, maybe more so in the past 20 years. That often does mean catering to people who aren't thinking or are stupid, yes. Most movies are not "smart" or made to make an audience think.
>>220117803retarded cope returns>arnold's team in predator was specifically chosen to be clowns that are picked off one by one - and it was alllll a dream
>>220117947>>220117966samefag is obvious
So the Alien show must be terrible right? I wouldn't watch such slop to find out myself. Is it bad in an entertaining way at least?
>>220118503she hires the ones who found the cave paintings and decifered the retarded clues and came up with the theory in the first place.if she didn't hire some, who are they and are they the ones who mess up.and as anon asked, did she hire the security team, since you are taking her aside as being absolute fact and the basis for your entire defective theory.if she ONLY hired the retards, that means the competent ones were not hired by her.that's how it works
>>220118867this is supposed to be set decades/centuries before alien 1: the alien. going to a shitty mining rock isn't the same as going to a xeno planet.reminder that even by alienS which had another half century or more tacked on top of alien 1: the alien, they hadn't encountered anything more interesting than primitive insect-like creatures, aka bug-hunt.a full century of system-wide space travel in the future at least, and they ridiculed the idea that there could be any complex lifeforms.yet you're saying at least a century prior, they didn't give a shit about going to an ancient engineer homeland with beings immeasurably superior to them.derpyour theory is weak and indefensible
>>220119157how can I obtain a failed synthetic copy of weyland's daughter?asking for a friendwouldn't it be weird to have one haha
>>220119885because it's been the mandate of the yid for a quarter of a century and they'll do it until wiypipo are extinct
>>220120591>12 angry plopsplot hole is the negro is guilty as sin and should have been fried.the whole film is propaganda
>>220125206according to some neurodykevirgin posters on here, it is both a deliberate comedy film, and also a serous extremely clever film where they were all chosen to be retarded.checkmate aphidist
>>220126055same for me, my brain disengages the more computer animation there is.when the whole shot, backgroujd characters and all are just a cartoon, it loses all meaning.
>>220128796I don't know what it is you're trying to say exactly. For like experimenting with how it socially bonds and what not, I guess.
>>220129244yes, I suppose so.perhaps we could go on missions together and she could explain how the company works and perhaps a hug now and again
>>220120726You’re right about Fassbender. He was the only good thing happening.
>>220128524It has one thing going for it - an alien species that even Xenomorphs are afraid of. That’s really about it.
>>220129244It’s to explore the implications of the Bonus Situation.
>>220094837fuck you I like it. I wanted a third.
>>220130751Fassbender is way too old looking by now
>>220130751>>220131206The Killer was spiritually David's conclusion. He found a way to come back to Earth, become a pseudphilosopher and get hired to be an assassin.
>>220129244For Idris Elba to fuck with his Big Black Cock.
>>220132650>got facehugged barely 15 minutes ago>xeno already bursting>fully grown in another 10 minutesWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>220101612Characters are all retarded because it takes place in the future. These are the brightest of humanity.
>>220132711Yeah, Ridley was sick to death of the xenomorph lifecycle and trying to make his movie fit it. He sped it up ridiculously. Like the other guy shortly after this one gets a facehugger on him, doesn't even go unconscious but has it cut off and burns his cheek, then a few minutes later while he's on the ship he bursts open and the xeno is full grown a few minutes later killing people.
>>220098208I liked this
I haven't seen it but it cannot possibly be worse than Romulus
